Guest guest Posted April 15, 2007 Report Share Posted April 15, 2007 How great Cheryl! That is such a good sign... Dr. G always tells me and I see it all the time in his patients that once a child's brain starts to work , why would they want to walk around uncomfortable? ( wet, dirty etc.) It is really nice to hear of your child's improvement and reminds me of why we are committed to doing this. Thanks, Elyse Goldberg -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.2.0/757 - Release Date: 4/11/2007 5:14 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 He had been ready for a while. It was pretty interesting going through it. I have to say, it went pretty well. We had been letting him use his little potty for a few months and he did very well with it as long as he was naked. Otherwise, he wanted a diaper on and he never really wanted to use the big potty. He didn't like the fact that he had to stop what he was doing to use the big potty. So we started by not trying to force that issue and he used a potty that we kept in his room and one we kept in the living room. It worked out well so when we finally did actually work on potty training for good, we only had to work on him being clothed and using the big potty. Within a week he was fully potty trained. Of course, we are now in Virginia and he's having some issues being in a strange house so we've seen a few accidents but I think it's just the stress of being somewhere new so soon after training. Gryffin really is improving so much. I can't believe how well he has responded to the protocol. cheryl > > How great Cheryl! > > That is such a good sign... Dr. G always tells me and I see it all the time > in his patients that once a child's brain starts to work , why would they > want to walk around uncomfortable? ( wet, dirty etc.) It is really nice to > hear of your child's improvement and reminds me of why we are committed to > doing this. > > Thanks, > Elyse Goldberg > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.2.0/757 - Release Date: 4/11/2007 > 5:14 PM > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 how old are the kids you are potty=training? I have an almost 4 year old, non-verbal, who is not trained & I can't decide whether to start trying to teach this or not... :S Thanks- --- midian42 <c.lowrance@...> wrote: > He had been ready for a while. It was pretty > interesting going through it. I have to say, it > went pretty well. We had been letting him use his > little potty for a few months and he did > very well with it as long as he was naked. > Otherwise, he wanted a diaper on and he never > really wanted to use the big potty. He didn't like > the fact that he had to stop what he was > doing to use the big potty. So we started by not > trying to force that issue and he used a > potty that we kept in his room and one we kept in > the living room. It worked out well so > when we finally did actually work on potty training > for good, we only had to work on him > being clothed and using the big potty. Within a > week he was fully potty trained. Of > course, we are now in Virginia and he's having some > issues being in a strange house so > we've seen a few accidents but I think it's just the > stress of being somewhere new so soon > after training. > > Gryffin really is improving so much. I can't > believe how well he has responded to the > protocol. > > cheryl > > > > > > How great Cheryl! > > > > That is such a good sign... Dr. G always tells me > and I see it all the time > > in his patients that once a child's brain starts > to work , why would they > > want to walk around uncomfortable? ( wet, dirty > etc.) It is really nice to > > hear of your child's improvement and reminds me of > why we are committed to > > doing this. > > > > Thanks, > > Elyse Goldberg > > > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.2.0/757 - > Release Date: 4/11/2007 > > 5:14 PM > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2007 Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 Gryffin is 3.5 yo. All the prep work was a few months but it worked out well. If you want me to write out the full process we used, let me know. Cheryl > > > > > > How great Cheryl! > > > > > > That is such a good sign... Dr. G always tells me > > and I see it all the time > > > in his patients that once a child's brain starts > > to work , why would they > > > want to walk around uncomfortable? ( wet, dirty > > etc.) It is really nice to > > > hear of your child's improvement and reminds me of > > why we are committed to > > > doing this. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Elyse Goldberg > > > > > > -- > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.2.0/757 - > > Release Date: 4/11/2007 > > > 5:14 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2007 Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 Cheryl- I'd love to hear whatever you would want to share with me about your experience! Also, is your son verbal? I just wonder how important that piece is for potty training? Thanks for any insight! --- midian42 <c.lowrance@...> wrote: > Gryffin is 3.5 yo. All the prep work was a few > months but it worked out well. If you want > me to write out the full process we used, let me > know. > > Cheryl > > > > > > > > > > > How great Cheryl! > > > > > > > > That is such a good sign... Dr. G always tells > me > > > and I see it all the time > > > > in his patients that once a child's brain > starts > > > to work , why would they > > > > want to walk around uncomfortable? ( wet, > dirty > > > etc.) It is really nice to > > > > hear of your child's improvement and reminds > me of > > > why we are committed to > > > > doing this. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Elyse Goldberg > > > > > > > > -- > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.2.0/757 > - > > > Release Date: 4/11/2007 > > > > 5:14 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2007 Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 I too would love to hear what method of potty training you tried. Our son is 6.5 and still refuses to go number 2. We have tried taking away pull ups completely, but still two weeks into this and he continues to go in his pants without a care in the world. Your imput would be appreciated. Thanks >From: Curtis and Hackler <thehacks@...> >Date: 2007/04/20 Fri AM 11:52:03 CDT > >Subject: Re: Re: ssri's to Cheryl > >Cheryl- > >I'd love to hear whatever you would want to share with >me about your experience! Also, is your son verbal? >I just wonder how important that piece is for potty >training? Thanks for any insight! > > >--- midian42 <c.lowrance@...> wrote: > >> Gryffin is 3.5 yo. All the prep work was a few >> months but it worked out well. If you want >> me to write out the full process we used, let me >> know. >> >> Cheryl >> >> >> >> > > > >> > > > How great Cheryl! >> > > > >> > > > That is such a good sign... Dr. G always tells >> me >> > > and I see it all the time >> > > > in his patients that once a child's brain >> starts >> > > to work , why would they >> > > > want to walk around uncomfortable? ( wet, >> dirty >> > > etc.) It is really nice to >> > > > hear of your child's improvement and reminds >> me of >> > > why we are committed to >> > > > doing this. >> > > > >> > > > Thanks, >> > > > Elyse Goldberg >> > > > >> > > > -- >> > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. >> > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> > > > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.2.0/757 >> - >> > > Release Date: 4/11/2007 >> > > > 5:14 PM >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been >> > > removed] >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > __________________________________________________ >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 Well, I'll tell you what we did but I don't know how helpful it will be if you've already started potty training and are having issues with #2. Gryffin was fairly simple to potty train as long as we did it on *his* terms. If there's one thing I've learned about my son, it's that he doesn't respond well to force! It started when he started sdc preschool. They take the kids to the potty 2x a day. After a week he started to potty at school. My guess is he saw the other kids doing it and getting praise and he wanted some of that praise - he's very driven by praise, rewards do not work. When that happened we bought a potty seat and he would use the potty seat whenever we put him on if he had to go. We didn't push it too fast, I kept the diaper on him and didn't make a big deal out of learning to use the potty - just gave him praise when he went. After that I tried removing the diapers but that went over like a box of rocks. At first he simply didn't care if he was soaking went. So I went back to the diaper and then tried again. At that point, he kind of figured out that underwear is a broken diaper and he didn't like it and refused to put them on again. He didn't care if his diaper was full, either. So then we went with naked while at home. That worked out very well and then we found out that he didn't want to use the big potty because it was too far away and took him away from what he was doing. In other words, it was too much work to remember to go to the big potty when he was playing or into something. So we bought 2 potties. He had one in his room and one in the living room. That worked out *great*. He would use the potty #1 & #2. From there I tried several times to ease back into underwear and that didn't work out. I had to use ABA hours to get the final push through on potty training. So basically all we worked on in ABA was using the big potty (I made the little ones stools) and wearing clothes. It took a couple of days of DTT (no, he didn't like it but I really think it helped him to understand what was expected). ABA came to the house for 2 days, 8 hours/day and the *only* thing we worked on was potty training. After the 2 days were over, I kept it up for about 3 more days and I really think I didn't need to go that long. Gryffin does not really respond well to DTT so it was a battle and I just stopped and let him go. I just asked him over and over again and if he said no, I didn't try to force him but if he wet his pants, I let him know that that's not the proper way to go potty. If he went longer than about 1 hour, I would take him to the potty and then I just started stretching it to 2 hours and eventually he just started going without me. It did take a while for him actually tell me he needed to potty and he still has trouble with it but since he goes on his own, it really doesn't matter too much, I guess. He's good about it when we are out and that's when it matters. He's not incredibly verbal, he does have words and sentences but I didn't really focus too much on him needing to tell me but rather on what I knew he could understand. I knew he understood yes and no and I just worked on getting him to understand the word potty. He also understands the tone of your voice very well. So even when he didn't understand the words, he knew the emotion behind it, he knew if it was right or not right. Now if I ask him if he needs to potty he says " no potty " and if he does he'll say " potty " over and over again. At this point, he is much more verbal than he was when he first started sdc and his receptive skills are a lot better but I think that he would've gotten it without it, too. He is very much into what other kids are doing and wants to do whatever they do so I do think it would have happened eventually no matter what. It was a long slow process. He only started school in October and he was fully potty trained in April (but only took about 1.5 weeks on full force potty training). And we really didn't rely so much on language to do it. Just praise. Lots and lots of praise. As far as not pooping on the potty, do you know *why* she won't do it? Sometimes knowing why helps a great deal. The other thing, he may not know he's supposed to go poop in the potty. This may sound gross but have you tried *showing* him that you sit on the potty to poop and when you sit up, show him what's in the bowl? I had to be a physical example a lot for Gryffin to remind him of what's going on. If I've left anything out or if I didn't get into enough detail, let me know. Hope it helps. Cheryl On Apr 20, 2007, at 11:53 AM, and Sal Juarez wrote: > I too would love to hear what method of potty training you tried. > Our son is 6.5 and still refuses to go number 2. We have tried > taking away pull ups completely, but still two weeks into this and > he continues to go in his pants without a care in the world. Your > imput would be appreciated. Thanks > > >From: Curtis and Hackler <thehacks@...> > >Date: 2007/04/20 Fri AM 11:52:03 CDT > > > >Subject: Re: Re: ssri's to Cheryl > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 Does your child have a regular 'poop time'? Can you kind of tell when they have to go? When I was PT'ing my son, I would wait for his 'cues' (very subtle, but there) and then put him on his little potty in front of his favorite video. He didn't always have to go the same time of day, or even every day, but he did have very subtle cues that he needed to go (including tooting and some funny posturing, and sometimes poking at his bottom). The first time he went on the little potty in front of the TV, he literally didn't even realize he was doing it, but I flipped off the TV as soon as he was done and showed him what he did, very excitedly. We poured it into the big potty together and then he got a brand new -the-Train (this was back when he was SOOOO into - it would have to be from the Cars movie now). I made a really big deal about the praise, and we called Daddy and Grandma and told them, and I kept telling him over and over how proud we were and when he played with the train I kept saying that was the train he got for pooping in the potty, etc. etc. In the days following, he got a tattoo (much cheaper than a brand new train) if he went on the potty. We faded this to a tattoo he would get whenever he went on the potty with no prompting/assistance from us. I kept the little potty in front of the TV for several weeks, but when we were out and about he went in a little potty I kept (keep) in the car or sometimes in a public potty). After a few weeks, I started putting him on the big potties in our home, and he transitioned pretty well, but still needed to sit for a while on the little potty in front of the TV for pooping (mostly, I think, because of chronic constipation). Fine with me, at least he was doing it. Within 2 months though we had phased it out completely. He had a stomach bug and regressed, so we brought out the TV potty again for a week or so to get him back on track and all was/is well. Good luck!!! Kristy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 Thank you for the info. >From: Kristy Nardini <krnardini@...> >Date: 2007/04/23 Mon PM 07:49:53 CDT > >Subject: RE: Re: ssri's to Cheryl > >Does your child have a regular 'poop time'? Can you kind of tell when they >have to go? > >When I was PT'ing my son, I would wait for his 'cues' (very subtle, but >there) and then put him on his little potty in front of his favorite video. >He didn't always have to go the same time of day, or even every day, but he >did have very subtle cues that he needed to go (including tooting and some >funny posturing, and sometimes poking at his bottom). The first time he went >on the little potty in front of the TV, he literally didn't even realize he >was doing it, but I flipped off the TV as soon as he was done and showed him >what he did, very excitedly. We poured it into the big potty together and >then he got a brand new -the-Train (this was back when he was SOOOO >into - it would have to be from the Cars movie now). I made a really >big deal about the praise, and we called Daddy and Grandma and told them, >and I kept telling him over and over how proud we were and when he played >with the train I kept saying that was the train he got for pooping in the >potty, etc. etc. In the days following, he got a tattoo (much cheaper >than a brand new train) if he went on the potty. We faded this to a tattoo >he would get whenever he went on the potty with no prompting/assistance from >us. > >I kept the little potty in front of the TV for several weeks, but when we >were out and about he went in a little potty I kept (keep) in the car or >sometimes in a public potty). After a few weeks, I started putting him on >the big potties in our home, and he transitioned pretty well, but still >needed to sit for a while on the little potty in front of the TV for pooping >(mostly, I think, because of chronic constipation). Fine with me, at least >he was doing it. Within 2 months though we had phased it out completely. He >had a stomach bug and regressed, so we brought out the TV potty again for a >week or so to get him back on track and all was/is well. > >Good luck!!! > >Kristy > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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