Re: thanks and a question. stopping substance abuse

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Thanks to all for your suggestions. So just let me recap.

1. Diet change is of utmost importance, even if its just begins with cutting out extra sugars.

2. Castor oil pack for the liver.

3. Lobelia tincture to help the craving for tobacco.

4. And here is my question. I was very interested in Waymon's post about the herbs: mustard, aspen, gorse, red chestnut, & agrimony. But I am still not sure ... can I use these in equal parts in a formula?

Thanks so much,

Terri Lynne

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Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 4:58 PM

Subject: Re: stopping substance abuse

Okay, here I go. Probably not too much help, but maybe a little insight.

As for giving up/getting off of drugs, the best bet is diet and cleansing. Even a three day juice cleanse would be great! But a total cleanse would be better. Target the liver and gall bladder! We have some cleanses like that in the files, and I can find out what is in the tincture I make (can't remember it off the top of my head) for my liver. Heavy drugs can really play havok on the liver!

Lobelia is great for the cravings!!

As far as pot is concerned, I understand that too much can have a detrimental effect on the mind, on relationships, etc. Even though I am a Christian, I see nothing inherently wrong with marijuana, if done with responsibility. The law says otherwise, yet allows alcohol and cigarettes. Go figure! It is better than Prozac and Zoloft for depression and anxiety with none of the life threatening side effects. I am not advocating it's use, nor suggesting it. Merely sharing my opinion. There are other herbal ways of dealing with stress and depression, as I am sure you have already heard.

One thing I will say that I am sure I will catch flak for, I am against 12-step programs in general. I have seen them fail more than succeed. And the devastation for those that fail is sometimes fatal. I am not saying that they have not helped some, as I am sure that they have. I am just stating that from experience, and from study, I do not see them as all that effective for the majority.

Alcohol has got to go! That is a tough one, I know! Be a friend to this person. Be there as often, as intrusively or inclusevily as you can. Friendship is one of the best anti-drug/alcohol deterents there is!

As for changing "one thing at a time", start with something like sugars. Encourage her to cut out the extra sugars in her diet. Sugar seems to "prolong" the detox from drugs and alcohol for many I've known, inculding myself. And LOTS of water, all of the time!

Probably didn't help much, sorry. But anything I can do to help, any questions about how I dealt with "this" or "that" during my cleanup, I'd be more than happy to share with you!

Terri Lynne Pomeroy <terri_lynne@...> wrote:

Hi all,I hope someone can give me some help with this problem.I have a friend who has been using drugs for a couple of years and now wants to quit. She has done some hard drugs and tons of marijuana. She has also used a little alcohol, but marijuana is the big thing with her.She also struggles with depression and major anxiety.She wants to stop using the marijuana, but when she stops, she feels unable to deal with her life. She becomes so depressed that she goes back out for more pot.Her dit is terrible. I went grocery shopping with her a couple of weeks ago and she bought more sweets than food. And what food she buys tends to be "fast" prepackaged.I am encouraging her to change her diet, but I think that, possibly, at this point she may only be able to change one thing at a time. So my question is, are there herbs or herbal formulas which will help her to get through the difficulties of giving up the drugs? Both the craving and the extreme anxiety?Any ideas will be much appreciated.Terri Lynne

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Terri Lynne Pomeroy wrote:

> Thanks to all for your suggestions. So just let me recap.

>

> 1. Diet change is of utmost importance, even if its just begins with

> cutting out extra sugars.

>

> 2. Castor oil pack for the liver.

>

> 3. Lobelia tincture to help the craving for tobacco.

>

> 4. And here is my question. I was very interested in Waymon's post

> about the herbs: mustard, aspen, gorse, red chestnut, & agrimony. But

> I am still not sure ... can I use these in equal parts in a formula?

>

> Thanks so much,

>

> Terri Lynne

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Hi Terri Lynne,

Mustard, aspen, gorse, red chestnut and agrimony are Bach Flower

essences that I believe Waymon was referring to and not as herbs. I hope

this helps you. Flower essences are so wonderful and healing.

Peace be with you Terri Lynne.

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Peace, love and light,

Don Quai

" Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal

and wakes in man. "

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Terri Lynne Pomeroy wrote:

> Hi Don,

> I'm so glad you told me this. I had no idea (grin, shrug). So then maybe

> this explains what he meant when he said up to seven cures. So she

> would use

> 7 or fewer of these at a time, right?

>

> Thanks so much,

>

> Terri Lynne

>

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Hi Terri Lynne,

That is correct. Using more defeats the purpose. Best is to use less

like maybe just one or up to three or four. But you can go up to seven

at a time. Do check out the site he sent on Bach Essences. Very informative.

Peace be with you Terri Lynne.

--

Peace, love and light,

Don Quai

" Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal

and wakes in man. "