Guest guest Posted June 22, 2002 Report Share Posted June 22, 2002 > Does anyone have any information about the use of diatomaceous earth? > > DE for immune system maintenance is described here: > http://www.vitaletherapeutics.org/immunecf.htm > > I'd be interested to know if anyone has used DE specifically for > mercury chelation. I did a search of the group archives but could > find no mention of it. Hi a, In answer to your question, NO, I have not used diatomaceous earth for chelation. In fact, this is " a new one " to me. Gee! I will go ahead and throw in a couple cents worth of speculation. FWIW, I have read numerous times about the use of OTHER kinds of clay for chelation--- primarily bentonite, I think, but maybe other stuff too. (There are a couple of " magnetic clay " products that say they detox mercury, and I'm not sure what type of clay they use.) Now, without writing a book (hopefully), let me say that I DO think bentonite is very useful stuff, and I have personally used quite a few pounds of it. So, what follows is not just " general " skepticism. (It is SPECIFIC skepticism instead LOL.) I have taken many bentonite baths, and I have drunk (drank?) bentonite quite a number of times. Okay. So, let's assume that DE (or bentonite or any other clay) does attract mercury (and other metals). My thinking here (and, yes, this is just my speculation) is that it would ONLY be able to attract metals in areas it is physically in contact with-- that is, IN THE COLON. I do NOT believe that clay is absorbed by the body in any way, so I think the area that it can affect is LIMITED to the colon. I would assume the same is true of DE. If you bath in the stuff, same idea applies, but the effect would be on the skin. (BTW, bentonite baths *are* very nice.) Now, just how much of a person's stored mercury will be accessible through the skin or the colon? VERY LITTLE. It is the mercury in the organs and the brain that are the big deal problem. There may be a bit in the colon and the skin, but I would think it is pretty trivial in the overall picture. I think (JMO) it is likely that bentonite and activated charcoal DO attract mercury locally, in the colon. (Andy, if you are reading this, is that plausible?) I have no experience with DE, but it may be in the same category. best wishes, Moria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2002 Report Share Posted June 22, 2002 I really doubt it would work. DE is not a clay, it is fossilized diatoms (little water critters). It does work to kill insects and intestinal worms. We buy it by the 50lb bag at a feed store to sprinkle on the manure pile, use in the garden against slugs, treat the animals for any external pests, and as a additive in their food for the intestinal worms. I do know of people that worm themselves with it, but I have not done that. This might be the reason that people who have used the method describe on this page saw improvements, they killed off parasites. It works because the fossils are sharp (tiny, but sharp) and it pierces their skin. It is too small to do any harm to larger animals (or earth worms for some reason), but it can hurt your lungs, badly, if you breath in too much of the dust. I am not sure if it clogs the lungs or if the lung tissue is pierced. But other than that, the stuff is safe, and better than using chemicals for pests. Tana > -----Original Message----- > From: paula_here_and_now [mailto:andersen.paula@...] > > Does anyone have any information about the use of diatomaceous earth? > > DE for immune system maintenance is described here: > http://www.vitaletherapeutics.org/immunecf.htm > > I'd be interested to know if anyone has used DE specifically for > mercury chelation. I did a search of the group archives but could > find no mention of it. > > Regards, > > a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2002 Report Share Posted June 22, 2002 > Does anyone have any information about the use of diatomaceous earth? I'm certainly familiar with it's chemical and industrial applications. I would not feed it to people. It is broken up shells of little ocean critters and will be rough on the intestines. Like eating broken glass. Autistic kids already have delicate, sensitive intestines. Use activated charcoal and bentoite clay for adsorbents, perhaps saccaride products for immune support. Andy . . . .. . . . . . . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2004 Report Share Posted September 21, 2004 Diatomaceous Earth By Bonnie and Bruce DeBaun Diatomaceous earth are the remains of trillions of single celled algae called diatoms which synthesized shells for themselves out of silica. When the diatoms die, the shells settle on the bottom of sea or lake beds and fossilize into a soft chalky rock like substance, hence the name " fossilshell flour " . The D.E. particles are characterized by their irregular spiny like shape and average from 5-20 microns in diameter. DE has been approved by the FDA for internal and external use and has a rating of Food Chemical Codex Grade. Its use internally or externally as a parasitical is strictly mechanical. The microscopic sharp edges contact offending organisms, pierce their protective coatings and cause them to dry out and die. It has been used for many years by the agricultural industry in direct application to the skin, in crates, enclosures, pastures, on stored grain and fruit trees to impede tree flies, worms and Japanese beetles. Internally the recommended rates are: beef and dairy cattle-1% by weight of total dry ration or free choice; chickens -5% in feed; large dogs over 55lbs. 1 tbsp. per day, small dogs and cats 1 tsp. per day. Recommendations include similar percentages for goats, hogs, horses and sheep. Basically what we have here is a natural non chemical substance with the ability to control internal intestinal lava. The University of Illinois School of Veterinary medicine has stated that nothing enters the meat or milk. LD/50 test shows there is no damage to organs even when fed in much larger percentages then needed. The Federal Registry of the U.S. Congress lists DE as having " no tolerance " in the storage of grain. Many vitamin companies include DE for its trace minerals The Bio-integral Resource Center, Berkley, CA (formed in 1979 to provide practical, nontoxic and effective alternatives to a wide variety of pest problems in the US & Canada) concluded that DE is not a hazard as the body can dissolve it. However, they did state Crystalline Silica is a hazard in elevated percentages of (3%). PHD uses the lowest (1%) silica found in any commercial deposit known, - a fresh water variety purchased from Universal Diatoms, Albuquerque, NM.. There are by the way significant differences between mineral deposits of DE throughout the world and manufacturers of various products that use DE should be aware of the hazards. Different geologic periods seem to be responsible for this phenomenon. There are some features about DE that correspond with its ability as both a digestive aid and a colon cleanser. The structural features of the skeletal forms as seen under a scanning electronic microscope reveal not only sharp protrusions but pores which have the tendency to become filled and clogged with hard debris such as intestinal scale. It has not been found to cause any insult to the mucosa or barrier wall. The following field reports establish the virtues of DE as a parasitical, a digestive aid and a container of trace mineral. Holistically speaking, I believe that DE is a compatible natural compound of organic origin that works harmoniously with the body in ways that cannot (as in homeopathy) always be explained. We at PHD are willing to take some first steps on behalf of the industry when we feel we are reasonably sure that we can improve the wellness of the whole animal. CLINICAL OBSERVATIONS OF FEEDING CODEX FOOD-GRADE DIATOMACEOUS EARTH TO DOGS, O.C. , DVM, Midland Animal Clinic and Hospital, Midland, Texas In clinical observations of feeding dogs over 35 lbs. 1 tablespoon/day and under 35 lbs. 1 teaspoon/day of diatomaceous earth, within seven days allova disappeared from stools. Diatomaceous Earth controlled Ascarids (Toxacara canis), Hookworms (Anclyostoma caninum), and Whipworms (Trichuris vulipis). FIELD REPORT ON EXPERIMENTAL FEEDING OF CODEX FOOD-GRADE DIATOMACEOUS EARTH TO ZOO ANIMALS, , Hallwood Inc., Animal Food Specialties, Grand Rapids, Michigan A mixture of feed incorporating 2% diatomaceous earth was sent to three zoos for evaluation. Ball Park of Grand Rapids, Michigan; Brookfield Zoos of Chicago, Illinois; and Buffalo Zoo of Buffalo, New York. Ball and Buffalo Zoos reported that their black bears on the special feed showed a better coat and clearer eyes. The primates fed at the Brookfield Zoo displayed a pronounced improvement in both appearance and behavior. Stool samples taken at all three zoos showed an absence of any internal parasites - adult or egg. Parasites in these animals were present prior to using the diatomaceous earth food mixture. TEST RESULTS FROM FEEDING A 5% RATION OF CODEX FOOD-GRADE DIATOMACEOUS EARTH TO RODENTS, Eldridge M. Burke, Ph.D. Arizona State University, Division of Life Sciences, Tempe, Arizona. Comparison of test and control groups of rats where test and control groups were fed identical rations, i. E. 5 % codex food-grade diatomaceous earth (DE). Significant differences were manifested in weight gains. The DE tested group of males had an average weekly gain of 6.4% over the control group of male animals. There was no evidence observed relative to residual silica content of the test versus control animals. NOTE: The DE apparently had some growth stimulating effect during the early growth period. From a chemical analysis viewpoint it becomes apparent that many of the trace elements present are the same elements necessary for cell growth and metabolism. A second factor that may have influenced the growth rate is the property for the absorbability of the special grade of D.E. Although hypothetical at this time, it may be that food was absorbed into the surface of the diatom particles. This would assist in the enzyme action with the result of greater products of digestion being available to the animals. RESULTS OF CODEX FOOD-GRADE DIATOMACEOUS EARTH FED TO HORSES, For Winds Stables, D. Horkman, Orlando, Florida Results of feeding 5 oz. of diatomaceous earth to show horses for a period of one year. Healthier-looking animals with a definite sheen to their coats, absence of internal parasites, better feed conversion, reduction in manure odor, fly control, cured scours in cases where other medications had failed and improved appetites in " picky eaters. " REPORT ON FEEDING CODEX FOOD-GRADE DIATOMACEOUS EARTH TO WALKING HORSE, L., Trainer, L. Roper Stables, Winter Garden, Florida With horses fed approximately 5 oz. of diatomaceous earth mixed in the feed twice daily, the following results were observed: 1. Stopped scours even on horses that had not responded to any other medications. 2. Noticeable fly reduction. 3. Horses showed an increase in appetites. 4. Weight gain due to better feed conversion. 5. Reduction in manure odor. 6. Elimination of any internal parasites. 7. Healthier appearance. STUDY OF CODEX FOOD-GRADE DIATOMACEOUS EARTH IN FEED PIGS, M. F. Petty, DVM, Alabama Results were as follows: 1. No internal parasites were discovered in the test group at any time after seven days of the DE. 2. All hogs on DE stopped rooting and destroying the wooden feeder after 10 days. 3. By the end of the third week the odor of the test group was noticeably less offensive than the control group. 4. At the end of six weeks the fly population decreased markedly. RESULTS OF THE USE OF CODEX FOOD-GRADE DIATOMACEOUS EARTH WITH POULTRY, C.S. Mangen, DVM, San Diego, California Using two groups of birds with each group consisting of 8,000 white leghorn caged layers in their pullet year which had been producing for five months. After feeding the test group 60 lbs. of diatomaceous earth per 1-1/2 tons of standard mixed feed (17% protein) for 2-1/2 months the following results were observed: 1. There appeared to be less flies around the test group. 2. Droppings are of a drier consistency, making for easier cleaning of the house. 3. Seventy-five percent less deaths in the test group. 4. A 2-4 case per day increase in egg production by the test group compared to the control group. ORGAN ANALYSIS OF DAIRY COWS, Michigan Department of Agriculture, Laboratory Division, Lansing, Michigan Upon pathological examination of the organs of dairy cows having been given free-choice feeding of codex food-grade diatomaceous earth for a period of approximately five years, no visible organ abnormalities were observed. FIELD REPORT - FREE CHOICE FEEDING TO DAIRY CATTLE, Dairy Herd Association Improvement Program, Hussey Farms, Litchfield Park, Arizona Tests run on purebred Jersey dairy cows given free choice access to codex food-grade diatomaceous earth (DE). Average intake was three ounces per cow per day. After six months the following results were observed: Milk production in the test group increased over 20% with butterfat content remaining the same. Warbles problems came to an abrupt halt. Feed assimilation improved and fly problems were brought under control. FIELD REPORT - FEEDING CODEX FOOD-GRADE DIATOMACEOUS EARTH (DE) TO DAIRY COWS, J. S. Bunker, Bunker Farms, Mesa, Arizona After feeding 100 dairy cows on DE for approximately one year, the following results were noted: warbles became nonexistent; fly nuisance almost completely disappeared; odors were almost completely gone; cows have better hair and coat condition and have no desire to lick soil as in the past; vet bills have been significantly reduced; butterfat content has risen from 503 lbs. per cow to 513 lbs. per cow. FIELD REPORT - FEEDING OF CODEX FOOD-GRADE DIATOMACEOUS EARTH TO DAIRY COWS, M. Brandt, McFarland, Wisconsin Results from feeding 5 to 6 ounces of food-grade diatomaceous earth to dairy herd for a period of five weeks: Butterfat tests have shown an increase of 3.7 to 3.9; mastitis, which had been quite a severe problem, came under control (no new cases); cows are brighter and healthier in appearance and milk production has increased without an appreciable increase in feed. ------------------------------------------------ The Best All-Around Non-Toxic Flea Control More Remedies & Treatments Solutions FPRIVATE " TYPE=PICT;ALT= " The Care2 Staff Let's face it. Fleas are the WORST, but applying pesticides to our pampered pooches doesn't make us howl with excitement either. In an attempt to find non-toxic flea control remedies, Care2 staff stumbled upon this amazing technique that kills fleas fast without toxic chemicals. While citrus peel extract (d-limonene) works well for dogs, cats can't tolerate it, so this is an especially great choice. Simple Solution: Diatomaceous earth (DE) is a powder comprised of microskeletons of deceased diatoms, which are a type of algae (both fresh water and sea water varieties occur). You sprinkle the powder on your pets and your carpets, and the fleas die from dehydration. As a foster care provider for hundreds of dogs, this stuff has been a miracle. You can use it on dogs, puppies, kittens, and cats. How it works: When applied to the animal's fur, DE scrubs on the hard exoskeletons of fleas. The tiny granules of silicon (think finely ground sand) work in the tiny holes of the flea's respiratory system and in the joints of the fleas. Every time the flea moves or breathes, the silicon grinds away at the exoskeleton, eventually killing the flea through blocking/maiming the respiratory holes or by water loss, as the exoskeleton helps keep in the flea's body water. It works the same way when applied to carpets instead of fur. How to use it: 1) Wear a mask and put one on your pet. Even though it's nontoxic, you don't want to get it in your lungs. 2) Sprinkle the DE along your dry pet's spine. Massage it along the body, working your way carefully to the extremities, avoiding the eyes. 3) Spread some diatomaceous earth on the carpets, brush it in and leave for about four days. Then vacuum it up to remove most of the fleas in the carpet. 4) Repeat the application frequently during an infestation. You should notice a decrease in fleas within a couple days. NOTE: Make sure not to use the kind of DE used in swimming pools. Use natural diatomaceous earth; it is available in gardens supply centers, some health food stores, and from natural-pet catalogs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 I got mine 2 yrs ago from 7m herbal farms... if you don't see it write and ask.. SuziCaroline <ladyguinevere@...> wrote: Hi guys,I know there was discussion about this stuff in the past. I have looked up a ton of information and have all of my background so I know how to use it...the question I have...where do I purchase this? I know there was talk about places not to buy it...but what kind of store will I be able to buy this? Does it come in larger sized bag? Is it very expensive?Just wondering what I am getting myself into...lol.Caroline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 Caroline wrote: > Hi guys, > > I know there was discussion about this stuff in the past. I have > looked up a ton of information and have all of my background so I > know how to use it...the question I have...where do I purchase > this? I know there was talk about places not to buy it...but what > kind of store will I be able to buy this? Does it come in larger > sized bag? Is it very expensive? > > Just wondering what I am getting myself into...lol. > > Caroline ======================== DE is well, dirt cheap, hehehe. Don't use pool grade for anything. Make certain that what your are getting is food grade. There are lots of places state side that sell this stuff and next to nobody in Europe. I am finding it very difficult to even obtain some. Look at animal feed stores, etc. Some herb stores will carry it as well. You should be able to obtain it by the pound or in larger sizes. -- Peace be with you, Caroline. Don " Quai " Eitner " Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal and wakes in man. " Nearly all men die of their remedies, and not of their illnesses. ~Jean Baptiste Molière, Le Malade Imaginaire The obstacle is the path. ~Zen Proverb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 I have used this in the house just to make sure to 'get' any fleas that might escape killing by Frontline! It sounds as if it will kill insects that get into it--it cuts them up so that they lose body fluids or whatever and die! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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