Re: teeth and mercury fillings

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I have read that if you have them removed you can cause more problems by disturbing them and exposing yourself to more mercury. The recommendations I have heard was to have them removed by someone who understands the toxic issues and to do a detoxing after wards.

I have done none of this :-) Just repeating what I have read.

Mercury comes up a lot with both autism and Down Syndrome as both groups have a real hard time ridding their bodies of heavy metals. People with DS have a risk of of autism and they all develop Alzheimer's plaques starting at an early age. So those are some very good reasons to keep that stuff out of their systems and to help them get rid of any they have may accumulated.

I chose the route of the SCD and sure enough about 6 months into it her teeth began developing a grey scum that the dentist had no clue about. Thought it was from the acid reflux, but her ENT and GI dr both said it didn't look like that was the cause.. it stopped after about 4 more months on the diet and now is not an issue. Natural detox??? No way to prove it, but I think that's what happened.

Carol in IL doihavtasay@...Mom to 7 blessings including , 3 with DS and Grandma to Micah and Jonah.

" My problem isn't how I look, is how you see me." "Unless the Lord builds the house, they labor in vain." Psalm 127

Forget fluoride or mercury fillings...he would never even consider those.

He has quite the interesting web page :

I had my mercury fillings removed in probably the mid 1980's. I did not do a mercury toxin removal cleanse however. I keep reading about mercury and how toxic it is to one's body and how you can't get it removed simply by removing the mercury fillings. Wonder if mercury has any say in FMS, CFS, Arthritis and so forth. Wonder if I should do a mercury cleanse? I never gor a cavity until after I was in my early twenties. Haven't had a cavity since they refilled the mercury ones. One root canal and that is it. Haven't covered over the root canaled tooth, yet....

Deborah

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Absolutely, Deborah! And I was just reading in Body & Soul Magazine today about two products that deal with mercury/heavy metal and toxin removal. They are called PCA-Rx and NG-Rx. The company name is Maxam Nutraceutics, http://www.maxamlabs.com. Toll-free number is 800-800-9119. Please realize that I know nothing about either this company or the products, am just passing on information I read in the magazine.

Sharyn

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Wonder if mercury has any say in FMS, CFS, Arthritis and so forth.

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Probably wouldn't hurt... eat lots of cilantro...

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In a message dated 9/12/2004 9:04:51 AM Mountain Daylight Time, doihavtasay@... writes:

Forget fluoride or mercury fillings...he would never even consider those.

He has quite the interesting web page :

I had my mercury fillings removed in probably the mid 1980's. I did not do a mercury toxin removal cleanse however. I keep reading about mercury and how toxic it is to one's body and how you can't get it removed simply by removing the mercury fillings. Wonder if mercury has any say in FMS, CFS, Arthritis and so forth. Wonder if I should do a mercury cleanse? I never gor a cavity until after I was in my early twenties. Haven't had a cavity since they refilled the mercury ones. One root canal and that is it. Haven't covered over the root canaled tooth, yet....

Deborah

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Hi Sharyn,

Not much of a surprise that this is quite the hot debate :-) The leading Dr dealing with DS in the US says there is no problem with the vaccines as long as they are done more slowly and started later and the child has been on vitamin therapy for months before hand. :-)

She has been vaccinated for everything except the MMR, which I am waiting on her gut to heal first. All her vaccinations, except the flu shot, have been thimerasol free. She also received Synergis when she was under two which is given each month from fall til the spring as protection against RSV. It costs a whopping $2000 dollars a dose!!! :-0 My insurance company was VERY happy to pay it as they had just paid a $5000 helicopter bill, on top of the hospital bill, when she caught a simple cold!! ;-) It worked too.. she is now four and has never had RSV. Which is nearly impossible to pull off.

With you have to balance your odds. I would rather have a vaccine damaged kid ( and they haven't seem to hurt at all btw) then no kid at all. :-) When you have a child with such severe problems you are sometimes forced into using some pretty heavy duty measures to keep her going. It's been hard because I am the kind of person who doesn't really like using drugs on my kids and this kid is a walking pharmacy sometimes. I have lost count of the magic potions used to keep her alive at different points. The problem isn't immunity, it's a very small airway and asthma. There isn't much to do for her when she gets a cold other than support to get her through. I can lay her down to sleep feeling pretty decent only to go and find her blue and struggling to breathe due to simple congestion.

I was very happy she had her DPT this spring as we had an out break of whooping cough at the Jr High School and my son brought it home! You lose immunity after 10 years so considering most kids get their last dose around 4-5 years of age, this age group is ripe. was well protected and thankfully did not come down with it. It would truly have been a nightmare and I have no doubt we would have spent time in the hospital again. It was hard enough on my 15 year old. He coughed for 3 full months.

So ,can you tell I have thought about this a lot??? LOL I have the CDC 's pink book and actually have READ it. Not to mention I have read lots on the anti-side as well. Getting her shots is one of the more nerve wracking things I need to do for her because I feel the weight of the world on my shoulders on this one. But all in all... having her vaccinated has been a good thing and so far has saved her from one nasty disease. wheew.....

Carol in IL doihavtasay@...Mom to 7 blessings including , 3 with DS and Grandma to Micah and Jonah.

" My problem isn't how I look, is how you see me." "Unless the Lord builds the house, they labor in vain." Psalm 127

-----Original Message-----From: Sharyn Cerniglia [mailto:sharyn.cerniglia@...] Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 5:16 PMhealth Subject: RE: teeth and mercury fillings

Carol, were your DS children vaccinated? I'm sure you know by now that they never should be again, if they were. Well, NONE of them should be, but those most of all.

Sharyn

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In a message dated 9/12/2004 9:03:23 PM Mountain Daylight Time, suziesgoats@... writes:

How bad do you want to do a metal detox???? And this is a pestos..

Yes, this may all be true. HOWEVER! I do think that there are more ways to detox. I don't think Cilantro is the ONLY way to mercury detox. I will keep reading and figuring out the best way. As I said, I want to do a colon cleanse with a parasite cleanse after this coming weekend. 20 years ago I had the mercury fillings removed. A month ago I did a juice cleanse (a month or so ago) and could tell a big difference in that. I am doing things one at a time. Mercury detox will be more research for me. Colon cleanse is more important at the time. Along with the parasite cleanse. I guess my "gut" feeling is that the colon is causing problems where maybe the ex-mercury is not. They were not in my mouth very long before I started learning about alternative and natural ways of living. That is the reason I had them taken out. So, hopefully I got them out before too much damage was done. Every time I ate anything, I had nose drainage, and after the mercury was all taken out that stopped. So, it did do some good!

Baby steps. Baby steps. Baby steps. I have to do Baby Steps or I try to do everything at once, get discouraged and QUIT! Yes, I know me!

Deborah

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Well, I'm not very open-minded on vaccines at all, so take this with whatever grain of salt works for you....BUT, I'd be willing to bet that there is still mercury in those vaccinations. I'd also be willing to take the chance that she'd get MMR (relatively benign childhood diseases, all of which I've had naturally) than choose to inject the poisons supposedly against them into her body. I have no idea what Synergis is, but I don't even vaccinate my dog, so you can imagine that I wouldn't vaccinate my children.

I think you'll find with a healthy diet and no attacks on her immune system that in time she will be able to deal with naturally occurring bugs on her own. Of course, at this point her immune system is so compromised I have no idea how long it would take to get it back to optimum shape....this list will help you immensely with that.

Sharyn

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Not much of a surprise that this is quite the hot debate :-) The leading Dr dealing with DS in the US says there is no problem with the vaccines as long as they are done more slowly and started later and the child has been on vitamin therapy for months before hand. :-)

She has been vaccinated for everything except the MMR, which I am waiting on her gut to heal first. All her vaccinations, except the flu shot, have been thimerasol free. She also received Synergis when she was under two which is given each month from fall til the spring as protection against RSV. It costs a whopping $2000 dollars a dose!!!

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Sharyn,

Not to debate the issue, but I would you like to understand that it's not her immune system that causes the problems. She actually doesn't get that 'sick' when she is sick. ;-)

The problem is that even the minor congestion of regular cold closes up her SMALL AIRWAYS. The problem is plumbing, not immunity. She can not cough or move mucus around with out also cutting off her airway at the same time and basically suffocating herself. She also has trachomalcia ( floppy airways) due to the low tone of DS. This causes her airway to sag and of course her tone gets worse when she is sick and fighting a bug too. When it rains it pours. ;-) So you see, she could have the best immunity in the world, but she is a kid and kids do get colds and stuff and those simple colds are hard enough, she would not have survived RSV, or in the least would have spent time on the vent which caused some of her airway problems to begin with. ( she has been vented 4 times )

So yes. I do all I can do to really boost her immunity in hopes she just will get fewer colds to begin with.

This has all improved with each year as she gets physically larger, but it was so bad for the first couple of years that we kept EVERYONE home the first year of her life- and the second year she didn't go anywhere and we kept sick people far away from us. So for her first year she was sick exactly once and in the hospital for a full week because of it too. And the second year a few times and in the hospital basically every time. She can make even a seasoned ER Dr go totally pale and pace! LOL

And no.. not willing at all to risk her getting any of those diseases with all the things that could go wrong due to her heart defects. And as far as poisons... well the vaccines are the LEAST of her worries after all the stuff she has had and had done to her. Though I don't' see vaccines as poison at all, they have been life savers for her. :-)

And so is the fact that most of these things aren't out there any longer so I could safely delay her vaccinations with out too much worry of her getting something. Herd immunity is a real blessing to people like her.

I don't mean to sound nasty or anything even close to that. But I would just like you to really understand what exactly is at risk with her and that the answer is not that simple sometimes.

Carol in IL doihavtasay@...Mom to 7 blessings including , 3 with DS and Grandma to Micah and Jonah.

" My problem isn't how I look, is how you see me." "Unless the Lord builds the house, they labor in vain." Psalm 127

-----Original Message-----From: Sharyn Cerniglia [mailto:sharyn.cerniglia@...] Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 6:54 PMhealth Subject: RE: teeth and mercury fillings

Well, I'm not very open-minded on vaccines at all, so take this with whatever grain of salt works for you....BUT, I'd be willing to bet that there is still mercury in those vaccinations. I'd also be willing to take the chance that she'd get MMR (relatively benign childhood diseases, all of which I've had naturally) than choose to inject the poisons supposedly against them into her body. I have no idea what Synergis is, but I don't even vaccinate my dog, so you can imagine that I wouldn't vaccinate my children.

I think you'll find with a healthy diet and no attacks on her immune system that in time she will be able to deal with naturally occurring bugs on her own. Of course, at this point her immune system is so compromised I have no idea how long it would take to get it back to optimum shape....this list will help you immensely with that.

Sharyn

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If you are worried about heavy metal toxicity make some pesto out of fresh cilantro. Use all organic ingredients. This is very good at sloughing off metals.

Janet

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Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 3:14 PM

Subject: RE: teeth and mercury fillings

Absolutely, Deborah! And I was just reading in Body & Soul Magazine today about two products that deal with mercury/heavy metal and toxin removal. They are called PCA-Rx and NG-Rx. The company name is Maxam Nutraceutics, http://www.maxamlabs.com. Toll-free number is 800-800-9119. Please realize that I know nothing about either this company or the products, am just passing on information I read in the magazine.

Sharyn

From: KLSIRDDOGS@... [mailto:KLSIRDDOGS@...]

Wonder if mercury has any say in FMS, CFS, Arthritis and so forth.