Re: Kidney pain? --> arthritis

[Guest guest]

Suzi

– I did the same thing with food, I cured my arthritis. Actually, the doctor called it osteopenia

(which is almost to the point of being osteoporosis). When that was diagnosed, I had been

taking a bunch of calcium pills and eating a ton of dairy (3 big glasses of

milk a day, ice cream, cheese, yogurt) – and the doctor says that I should

be taking more calcium pills and eating more dairy. I said no way, and did “my own

thing” – so I eliminated the calcium pills, eliminated dairy,

eliminated red meat and mostly all other meat (I eat chicken or fish now only a

couple times a month). I learned

that meat is acidic, and your body uses calcium from your bones to neutralize

the acidity. Then I added lots of

veggies that are high in calcium, I added whole food supplelments (instead of a

calcium pill, which is an isolated mineral that doesn’t work all by

itself). So now the latest bone

scan showed that my bones are like a 25 year old, and I’m more than twice

that!

Carol

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From:

Suzanne <suziesgoats@...>

Subject:

Re: Re: kidney pain?

Christa,

you

would be amazed at what food does for the body.... I was. Between diet and fasts, and a few

herbs.. I cured my arthritis...

Suzi

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/13/2004 11:58:35 AM Mountain Daylight Time, carolminnick@... writes:

A whole food supplement is actually a food, put into capsule form. It looks like you’re taking a pill, but you’re actually eating food. I personally use aphanizomenon flos-aquae, a type of blue green algae, the most nutrient dense food on the planet. Other whole food supplements are bee pollen, wheat grass, wheat sprouts – that type of thing.

Thanks, I understand.

Deborah

[Guest guest]

KLSIRDDOGS@... wrote:

In a message dated 9/13/2004 6:27:29 AM Mountain Daylight Time,

carolminnick@... writes:

I learned that

meat is acidic, and your body uses calcium from your bones to

neutralize the acidity.  Then I added lots of

veggies that are high in calcium, I added whole food supplelments

(instead of a calcium pill, which is an isolated mineral that doesn’t

work all by itself).  So now the latest bone

scan showed that my bones are like a 25 year old, and I’m more than

twice that!

 

Thanks

all for the inspriration.  That is one of my goals to rid my body of

both types of Arthritis.  I no longer say "my arthritis is bothering

me" type of statements.  Now it is "that ****** arthritis is bothering

me but NOT for long!

I have

cut back on the intake of meat.  More salads and veggies.  When you say

whole foods supplements, would you give me an example? I need to learn

which veggies are highest in calcium. 

Again, I

love it when everyone shares what they have helped or cured and how.

 

Deborah

==========================

Better yet would be to state "My body is telling me it needs some

attention!" Why name it? Once you name it then your subconscious

fixates on that. Your mind creates!!

:-) Gotta be positive and optimistic.

I love it too when we all share because we all learn from one another.

Here is some info on sources of natural calcium.

Source

Calcium mg

Fat g

Cholesterol mg

Protein g

Magnesium mg

Iron mg

Fiber g

Energy kcal

Total

Saturated

Sesame

seeds

975.000

49.670

6.957

0.000

17.730

351.000

14.550

11.800

573.000

Tofu,

raw, firm, prepared with calcium sulfate

683.000

8.720

1.261

0.000

15.780

58.000

10.470

2.300

145.000

Winged

beans, mature seeds, raw

440.000

16.320

2.303

0.000

29.650

179.000

13.440

?

409.000

Sesame

butter, tahini

426.000

53.760

7.529

0.000

17.000

95.000

8.950

9.300

595.000

Soybeans,

mature seeds, raw

277.000

19.940

2.884

0.000

36.490

280.000

15.700

9.300

416.000

Nuts,

almond butter, plain, without salt added

270.000

59.100

5.602

0.000

15.080

303.000

3.700

3.700

633.000

Nuts,

almonds

248.000

50.640

3.881

0.000

21.260

275.000

4.290

11.800

578.000

Beans,

white, mature seeds, raw

240.000

0.850

0.219

0.000

23.360

190.000

10.440

15.200

333.000

Flax seed

199.000

34.000

3.196

0.000

19.500

362.000

6.220

27.900

492.000

Soybeans,

green, raw

197.000

6.800

0.786

0.000

12.950

65.000

3.550

4.200

147.000

Beans,

kidney, california red, mature seeds, raw

195.000

0.250

0.036

0.000

24.370

160.000

9.350

24.900

330.000

Milk,

sheep

193.400

7.000

4.603

27.000

5.980

18.360

0.100

0.000

107.808

Turnip

greens, raw

190.000

0.300

0.070

0.000

1.500

31.000

1.100

3.200

27.000

Dandelion

greens, raw

187.000

0.700

0.170

0.000

2.700

36.000

3.100

3.500

45.000

Beans,

french, mature seeds, raw

186.000

2.020

0.221

0.000

18.810

188.000

3.400

25.200

343.000

Nuts,

brazilnuts, dried, unblanched

176.000

66.220

16.154

0.000

14.340

225.000

3.400

5.400

656.000

Beans,

great northern, mature seeds, raw

175.000

1.140

0.356

0.000

21.860

189.000

5.470

20.200

339.000

Beans,

small white, mature seeds, raw

173.000

1.180

0.304

0.000

21.110

183.000

7.730

24.900

336.000

Seaweed,

kelp, raw

168.000

0.560

0.247

0.000

1.680

121.000

2.850

1.300

43.000

Beans,

yellow, mature seeds, raw

166.000

2.600

0.671

0.000

22.000

222.000

7.010

25.100

345.000

lotus

seeds

163.000

1.970

0.330

0.000

15.410

210.000

3.530

?

332.000

Tofu,

firm, prepared with calcium sulfate and magnesium chloride

162.000

4.460

0.646

0.000

8.040

46.000

1.450

0.400

77.000

Arugula,

raw

160.000

0.660

0.086

0.000

2.580

47.000

1.460

1.600

25.000

Beans,

navy, mature seeds, raw

155.000

1.280

0.331

0.000

22.330

173.000

6.440

24.400

335.000

Mothbeans,

mature seeds, raw

150.000

1.610

0.364

0.000

22.940

381.000

10.850

?

343.000

Seaweed,

wakame, raw

150.000

0.640

0.130

0.000

3.030

107.000

2.180

0.500

45.000

Collards,

raw

145.000

0.420

0.055

0.000

2.450

9.000

0.190

3.600

30.000

Figs,

dried, uncooked

144.000

1.170

0.234

0.000

3.050

59.000

2.230

12.200

255.000

Beans,

kidney, all types, mature seeds, raw

143.000

0.830

0.120

0.000

23.580

140.000

8.200

24.900

333.000

Mungo

beans, mature seeds, raw

138.000

1.640

0.114

0.000

25.210

267.000

7.570

18.300

341.000

Back to the top!

Calcium mg

Fat g

Cholesterol mg

Protein g

Magnesium mg

Iron mg

Fiber g

Energy kcal

Total

Saturated

Parsley,

raw

138.000

0.790

0.132

0.000

2.970

50.000

6.200

3.300

36.000

Yardlong

beans, mature seeds, raw

138.000

1.310

0.339

0.000

24.330

338.000

8.610

11.000

347.000

Kale, raw

135.000

0.700

0.091

0.000

3.300

34.000

1.700

2.000

50.000

Milk,

goat

133.500

4.140

2.667

11.400

3.560

13.970

0.050

0.000

68.813

Mung

beans, mature seeds, raw

132.000

1.150

0.348

0.000

23.860

189.000

6.740

16.300

347.000

Beans,

kidney, royal red, mature seeds, raw

131.000

0.450

0.065

0.000

25.330

138.000

8.700

24.900

329.000

Beans,

pink, mature seeds, raw

130.000

1.130

0.292

0.000

20.960

182.000

6.770

12.700

343.000

Wasabi,

root, raw

128.000

0.630

?

0.000

4.800

69.000

1.030

7.700

109.000

Beans,

cranberry (roman), mature seeds, raw

127.000

1.230

0.316

0.000

23.030

156.000

5.000

24.700

335.000

Beans,

black, mature seeds, raw

123.000

1.420

0.366

0.000

21.600

171.000

5.020

15.200

341.000

Milk,

nonfat

123.000

0.180

0.117

2.000

3.410

11.000

0.040

0.000

35.000

Beans,

pinto, mature seeds, raw

121.000

1.130

0.235

0.000

20.880

159.000

5.880

24.400

340.000

Watercress,

raw

120.000

0.100

0.027

0.000

2.300

21.000

0.200

1.500

11.000

Milk,

producer, fluid, 3.7% milkfat

119.000

3.660

2.278

14.300

3.280

13.400

0.050

0.000

64.172

Sunflower

seed

116.000

49.570

5.195

0.000

22.780

354.000

6.770

10.500

570.000

Nuts,

hazelnuts or filberts

114.000

60.750

4.464

0.000

14.950

163.000

4.700

9.700

628.000

Tempeh

111.000

10.800

2.220

0.000

18.540

81.000

2.703

?

193.000

Tofu,

soft, prepared with calcium sulfate and magnesium chloride

111.000

3.690

0.533

0.000

6.550

27.000

1.110

0.200

61.000

Tomatoes,

sun-dried

110.000

2.970

0.426

0.000

14.110

194.000

9.090

12.300

258.000

Peanuts,

spanish, raw

106.000

49.600

7.642

0.000

26.150

188.000

3.910

9.500

570.000

Chickpeas

(garbanzo beans, bengal gram), mature seeds, raw

105.000

6.040

0.626

0.000

19.300

115.000

6.240

17.400

364.000

Nuts,

walnuts, English

104.000

65.210

6.126

0.000

15.230

158.000

2.910

6.700

654.000

Broadbeans

(fava beans), mature seeds, raw

103.000

1.530

0.254

0.000

26.120

192.000

6.700

25.000

341.000

Mustard

greens, raw

103.000

0.200

0.010

0.000

2.700

32.000

1.460

3.300

26.000

Spinach,

raw

99.000

0.350

0.056

0.000

2.860

79.000

2.710

2.700

22.000

Tempeh,

cooked

95.600

11.380

3.290

 

18.190

77.200

2.126

?

197.000

Currants,

zante, dried

86.000

0.270

0.028

0.000

4.080

41.000

3.260

6.800

283.000

Rhubarb,

raw

86.000

0.200

0.053

0.000

0.900

12.000

0.220

1.800

21.000

Nuts,

macadamia nuts, raw

85.000

75.770

12.061

0.000

7.910

130.000

3.690

8.600

718.000

Winged

beans, immature seeds, raw

84.000

0.870

0.238

0.000

6.950

34.000

1.500

?

49.000

Back to the top!

Calcium mg

Fat g

Cholesterol mg

Protein g

Magnesium mg

Iron mg

Fiber g

Energy kcal

Total

Saturated

Beans,

kidney, red, mature seeds, raw

83.000

1.060

0.154

0.000

22.530

138.000

6.690

15.200

337.000

Lima

beans, large, mature seeds, raw

81.000

0.690

0.161

0.000

21.460

224.000

7.510

19.000

338.000

Okra, raw

81.000

0.100

0.026

0.000

2.000

57.000

0.800

3.200

33.000

Seaweed,

irishmoss, raw

72.000

0.160

0.033

0.000

1.510

144.000

8.900

1.300

49.000

Nuts,

pecans

70.000

71.970

6.175

0.000

9.170

121.000

2.530

9.600

691.000

Seaweed,

laver, raw

70.000

0.280

0.061

0.000

5.810

2.000

1.800

0.300

35.000

Lettuce,

looseleaf, raw

68.000

0.300

0.039

0.000

1.300

11.000

1.400

1.900

18.000

Soybeans,

mature seeds, sprouted, raw

67.000

6.700

0.929

0.000

13.090

72.000

2.100

1.100

122.000

Beans,

adzuki, mature seeds, raw

66.000

0.530

0.191

0.000

19.870

127.000

4.980

12.700

329.000

Finfish,

halibut, Atlantic and Pacific, cooked, dry heat

60.000

2.940

0.417

41.000

26.690

107.000

1.070

0.000

140.000

Quinoa

60.000

5.800

0.590

0.000

13.100

210.000

9.250

5.900

374.000

Beans,

pinto, immature seeds, frozen, unprepared

58.000

0.500

0.061

0.000

9.800

60.000

3.000

5.700

170.000

Nuts,

walnuts, black

58.000

56.580

3.628

0.000

24.350

202.000

3.070

5.000

607.000

Prickly

pears, raw

56.000

0.510

0.067

0.000

0.730

85.000

0.300

3.600

41.000

Egg,

whole, cooked, fried

55.000

15.000

4.167

459.000

13.540

11.000

1.560

0.000

199.000

Oats

54.000

6.900

1.217

0.000

16.890

177.000

4.720

10.600

389.000

Seaweed,

agar, raw

54.000

0.030

0.006

0.000

0.540

67.000

1.860

0.500

26.000

Beans,

pinto, immature seeds, frozen, cooked, boiled, drained, without salt

52.000

0.480

0.058

0.000

9.310

54.000

2.710

8.600

162.000

Chard,

swiss, raw

51.000

0.200

0.030

0.000

1.800

81.000

1.800

1.600

19.000

Lentils,

mature seeds, raw

51.000

0.960

0.135

0.000

28.060

107.000

9.020

30.500

338.000

Prunes,

dried, uncooked

51.000

0.520

0.041

0.000

2.610

45.000

2.480

7.100

239.000

Egg,

whole, cooked, hard-boiled

50.000

10.610

3.267

424.000

12.580

10.000

1.190

0.000

155.000

Hyacinth-beans,

immature seeds, raw

50.000

0.200

0.088

0.000

2.100

40.000

0.740

?

46.000

Chickpeas

(garbanzo beans, bengal gram), mature seeds, cooked, boiled, without

salt

49.000

2.590

0.269

0.000

8.860

48.000

2.890

7.600

164.000

Egg,

whole, raw, fresh

49.000

10.020

3.100

425.000

12.490

10.000

1.440

0.000

149.000

Raisins,

seedless

49.000

0.460

0.150

0.000

3.220

33.000

2.080

4.000

300.000

Beans,

snap, green, cooked, boiled, drained, without salt

46.000

0.280

0.064

0.000

1.890

25.000

1.280

3.200

35.000

Lotus

root, raw

45.000

0.100

0.030

0.000

2.600

23.000

1.160

4.900

74.000

Nuts,

cashew nuts, dry roasted, without salt added

45.000

46.350

9.157

0.000

15.310

260.000

6.000

3.000

574.000

Beans,

pinto, mature seeds, sprouted, raw

43.000

0.900

0.109

0.000

5.250

53.000

1.970

?

62.000

Back to the top!

Calcium mg

Fat g

Cholesterol mg

Protein g

Magnesium mg

Iron mg

Fiber g

Energy kcal

Total

Saturated

Peas,

edible-podded, raw

43.000

0.200

0.039

0.000

2.800

24.000

2.080

2.600

42.000

Pumpkin

and squash seed kernels

43.000

45.850

8.674

0.000

24.540

535.000

14.970

3.900

541.000

Burdock

root, raw

41.000

0.150

0.025

0.000

1.530

38.000

0.800

3.300

72.000

Chicory

roots, raw

41.000

0.200

0.048

0.000

1.400

22.000

0.800

?

73.000

Peanut

butter, chunk style,

41.000

49.940

9.580

0.000

24.050

159.000

1.900

6.600

589.000

Mulberries,

raw

39.000

0.390

0.027

0.000

1.440

18.000

1.850

1.700

43.000

Beans,

fava, in pod, raw

37.000

0.730

0.118

0.000

7.920

33.000

1.550

?

88.000

Beans,

snap, green, raw

37.000

0.120

0.026

0.000

1.820

25.000

1.040

3.400

31.000

Lettuce,

cos or romaine, raw

36.000

0.200

0.026

0.000

1.620

6.000

1.100

1.700

14.000

Figs, raw

35.000

0.300

0.060

0.000

0.750

17.000

0.370

3.300

74.000

Lima

beans, immature seeds, raw

34.000

0.860

0.198

0.000

6.840

58.000

3.140

4.900

113.000

Milk,

human

32.200

4.380

2.009

13.900

1.030

3.400

0.030

0.000

69.563

-- Peace, love and light,

Don Quai

"Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal and wakes in man."

[Guest guest]

KLSIRDDOGS@... wrote:

> In a message dated 9/13/2004 9:23:22 AM Mountain Daylight Time,

> mysticalherbalist@... writes:

>

> Here is some info on sources of natural calcium.

>

> **

> *I tried the vinegar and egg mix for calcium. It was HORRIBLE!

> Couldn't choke it down. What did I do wrong?????*

>

>

> */Deborah/*

============================

Well, first off you used vinegar. You should use Lemon juice. Much

better and the calcium is much more bioavailable. Vinegar and egg makes

a nasty tasting yucky drink for sure. The calcium from this is not as

bioavailable as from the lemon and egg formula.

--

Peace, love and light,

Don Quai

" Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal

and wakes in man. "

[Guest guest]

Deborah,

A

whole food supplement is actually a food, put into capsule form. It looks like you’re taking a pill,

but you’re actually eating food. I personally use aphanizomenon

flos-aquae, a type of blue green algae, the most nutrient dense food on the planet. Other whole food supplements are bee

pollen, wheat grass, wheat sprouts – that type of thing. Whole food supplements are nothing like a

vitamin pill that is made from all kinds of isolated and synthetic ingredients,

and probably artificial colors, coal tar, etc. Yuk!

You can actually

take enough supplements, in an individual isolated form, to cause symptoms of a

deficiency of other nutrients. For example, if you take a vitamin E supplement,

you need to also take the mineral zinc to maintain normal blood concentrations

of vitamin E. However, if you take too much zinc, you can block absorption of

copper and selenium. This is the same with taking too much vitamin C, you can also block selenium absorption in your body.

Vitamins are

dependent on minerals to function in the body. If you start the game of picking

and choosing single vitamins and single minerals to take, you are playing a

dangerous game that can cause a terrible chemical imbalance in your body.

Isolated vitamins and minerals sold in supplement form do not have the same

suitability for human metabolism as those found in whole foods. Our bodies were

not designed to break down these inorganic supplements.

Nutrients cannot

work well in the body when taken in an isolated form. All nutrients work as a

team to build and support health. Nature has always been the best manufacturer

(provider) of our foods and the best teacher if we care to learn her lessons.

The body understands “natural law.” Just give it the full range of

good foods and whole food supplements and it knows what to do to create optimum

health and vitality.

Carol

From:

KLSIRDDOGS@...

Subject:

Re: Re: kidney pain? --> arthritis

When

you say whole foods supplements, would you give me an example?

Deborah

[Guest guest]

Sharyn,

We got a tour of the local plants, etc...at the hotel... and the gardener and I got to talking herbs... what fun... anyway he showed us a lemon tree which I thought was grapefruit... it was still green and was sweet.. they he got a coconut (a young green one) and took the "water" as he called it.. and mixed the lemon juice and coconut juice... OMG was that scrumptous... but you have to get a young coconut...to get the juice... there was alot of juice...

SuziSharyn Cerniglia <sharyn.cerniglia@...> wrote:

We routinely go through 3-4 lemons a day in this house, so I'm used to juicing them. Just get yourself a little $3.99 citrus juicer from the local Bed Bath & Beyond (or you can probably even find one for a dollar at the local dollar store) and it'll be very easy.

Sharyn, who can never find lemons in Jamaica!

From: Suzanne [mailto:suziesgoats@...]

ME TOO.. unless they are like the lemons in Jamaica which are the size of grapefruit...

KLSIRDDOGS@... wrote:

hhmmm.... I could swear that I read here to use ACV. Maybe not. oh well. leason learned. I am having a hard time thinking it can only take 4 lemons to cover 2 eggs.

[Guest guest]

Hi

Suzi,

The

veggies I include are kale, bok choy,

broccoli, parsley – most any veggie that is dark green will have calcium.

Also figs,

almonds and soy.

Carol

From:

Suzanne <suziesgoats@...>

Subject:

Re: Re: kidney pain? --> arthritis

So

cool....Which veggies did you fill up on ???

Suzi

Carol

Minnick <carolminnick@...> wrote:

Suzi

– I did the same thing with food, I cured my arthritis.

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