Guest guest Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 No experience with the shots, but try oral methyl B12 first, many kids absorb it just fine. I have some concerns, psych wise, in injecting a child, if not necessary. Lots of documentation for adequate absorption for oral methyl B12. I would not want to take a shot if I could take a pill, imagine most people, kids are people, might feel the same way. MB12 Shots We are planning on starting our son (4 yrs old, diagnosed with PDD) on MB12 shots with a doctor in NJ. Does anyone have any experience with this (positive or negative)? Are there any side effects? Thanks Vas and Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with the original author(s), and is not necessarily endorsed by or the opinion of the Research Institute and/or the Parent Coalition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 We have just begun the Mb12 shots. The shots take the guess work out of the absorption issue and is immediately available to the system. The needles are very very small so there is very little awareness of being given a shot. An ice cube held to the area for 15 seconds is sufficient so no stick is felt. It takes seconds to administer Just so happens my guy is very cooperative so its easy to give. Wiggly kids would of course be a little harder. r Re: MB12 Shots No experience with the shots, but try oral methyl B12 first, many kids absorb it just fine. I have some concerns, psych wise, in injecting a child, if not necessary. Lots of documentation for adequate absorption for oral methyl B12. I would not want to take a shot if I could take a pill, imagine most people, kids are people, might feel the same way. MB12 Shots We are planning on starting our son (4 yrs old, diagnosed with PDD) on MB12 shots with a doctor in NJ. Does anyone have any experience with this (positive or negative)? Are there any side effects? Thanks Vas and Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with the original author(s), and is not necessarily endorsed by or the opinion of the Research Institute and/or the Parent Coalition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 there is also mb12 spray. (used by parents on the mb12/valtrex list group) vicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 In a message dated 2/1/2006 10:42:33 AM Pacific Standard Time, juliefp3@... writes: We are planning on starting our son (4 yrs old, diagnosed with PDD) on MB12 shots with a doctor in NJ. Does anyone have any experience with this (positive or negative)? Are there any side effects? Thanks Vas and you might want to get on the mb12/valtrex list group. good info and folks on that one. vicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 You can also apply Emla cream (numbing cream) to the area for about 30-40 mins before giving the shot. The cream is by prescription-any doc. can write you one. It is great for blood draws. Some people prefers giving the shot when the child is asleep as well. Whatever suits your child best. Re: MB12 Shots No experience with the shots, but try oral methyl B12 first, many kids absorb it just fine. I have some concerns, psych wise, in injecting a child, if not necessary. Lots of documentation for adequate absorption for oral methyl B12. I would not want to take a shot if I could take a pill, imagine most people, kids are people, might feel the same way. MB12 Shots We are planning on starting our son (4 yrs old, diagnosed with PDD) on MB12 shots with a doctor in NJ. Does anyone have any experience with this (positive or negative)? Are there any side effects? Thanks Vas and Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with the original author(s), and is not necessarily endorsed by or the opinion of the Research Institute and/or the Parent Coalition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 Be really careful with these shots. I know three kids who regressed terribly with these shots. One was a child I was working with at the time. She had made really great progress and her language had started to take off prior to the shots. Within a few days of starting the shots, she lost her language, became much more hyperactive again and went back to the pinching and biting we'd eased her out of a year before. It took six months to get back to where she was behaviorally and focus-wise prior to the shots and her language still hasn't returned several years later. This child actually showed defficient in B12 with blood testing and responded well to the cream form but somehow couldn't handle the high-dose injections. Gaylen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2006 Report Share Posted February 4, 2006 Vicki I looked for a mb12/valtrex list group on groups, and couldnt find one; how do we sign up for this group? Thanks. Vas and vickila1@... wrote: In a message dated 2/1/2006 10:42:33 AM Pacific Standard Time, juliefp3@... writes: We are planning on starting our son (4 yrs old, diagnosed with PDD) on MB12 shots with a doctor in NJ. Does anyone have any experience with this (positive or negative)? Are there any side effects? Thanks Vas and you might want to get on the mb12/valtrex list group. good info and folks on that one. vicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2006 Report Share Posted February 4, 2006 _www.mb12 valtrex _ (http://www.mb12 valtrex ) vicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2006 Report Share Posted February 4, 2006 as with EVERYTHING, including lots of rx meds, you have to be careful. everyone should only do a particular protocol under direction of a doctor. it is best to get tested first to see if your child is even a good candidate. not all children will respond positively to mb12. many do. as always, every child is different and will respond differently. body chemistry being that it is... vicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2006 Report Share Posted February 4, 2006 When I tried to access this site, I was told it could not be found. (?) Barb --- vickila1@... wrote: > _www.mb12 valtrex _ > (http://www.mb12 valtrex ) > > > vicki > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Barb Katsaros barbkatsaros@... __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2006 Report Share Posted February 4, 2006 Barb, try this: mb12 valtrex/ Vas and Barb Katsaros <barbkatsaros@...> wrote: When I tried to access this site, I was told it could not be found. (?) Barb --- vickila1@... wrote: > _www.mb12 valtrex _ > (http://www.mb12 valtrex ) > > > vicki > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Barb Katsaros barbkatsaros@... __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2006 Report Share Posted February 4, 2006 Thanks. It worked. Barb --- " S.Putcha " <sputcha@...> wrote: > Barb, try this: > mb12 valtrex/ > Vas and > > Barb Katsaros <barbkatsaros@...> wrote: > When I tried to access this site, I was told it > could > not be found. (?) Barb > > --- vickila1@... wrote: > > > _www.mb12 valtrex _ > > (http://www.mb12 valtrex ) > > > > > > vicki > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > Barb Katsaros > barbkatsaros@... > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2006 Report Share Posted February 5, 2006 In a message dated 2/5/2006 1:27:17 PM Pacific Standard Time, barbkatsaros@... writes: Are there potential side effects? Do you know if Dr. G goes along with this treatment? Barb some children will no doubt experience some negative side effects. that is true with most everything. you have to be a " good " candidate for use with mb12. not everyone will do well with it. i believe you may find addtl info on dr neubrander's site. vicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2006 Report Share Posted February 5, 2006 Are there potential side effects? Do you know if Dr. G goes along with this treatment? Barb --- vickila1@... wrote: > as with EVERYTHING, including lots of rx meds, you > have to be careful. > everyone should only do a particular protocol under > direction of a doctor. it is > best to get tested first to see if your child is > even a good candidate. not > all children will respond positively to mb12. many > do. as always, every > child is different and will respond differently. > body chemistry being that it > is... > > vicki > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Barb Katsaros barbkatsaros@... __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2006 Report Share Posted February 5, 2006 Anything can have side effects-- I think most common with B12 is increased hyperness. We haven't seen anything either way with the shots and will probably discontine once we run out of this batch. Becky Re: MB12 Shots > Are there potential side effects? Do you know if Dr. > G goes along with this treatment? Barb > > --- vickila1@... wrote: > >> as with EVERYTHING, including lots of rx meds, you >> have to be careful. >> everyone should only do a particular protocol under >> direction of a doctor. it is >> best to get tested first to see if your child is >> even a good candidate. not >> all children will respond positively to mb12. many >> do. as always, every >> child is different and will respond differently. >> body chemistry being that it >> is... >> >> vicki >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been >> removed] >> >> > > > Barb Katsaros > barbkatsaros@... > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2006 Report Share Posted February 5, 2006 what made you decide to do the shots vs. the nasal spray? Are you a pt. of Dr. Goldberg? If so, was he infavor of you doing these shots? --- Norvell <beckeric@...> wrote: > Anything can have side effects-- I think most > common with B12 is > increased hyperness. > > We haven't seen anything either way with the > shots and will probably > discontine once we run out of this batch. > > Becky > > > Re: MB12 Shots > > > > Are there potential side effects? Do you know if > Dr. > > G goes along with this treatment? Barb > > > > --- vickila1@... wrote: > > > >> as with EVERYTHING, including lots of rx meds, > you > >> have to be careful. > >> everyone should only do a particular protocol > under > >> direction of a doctor. it is > >> best to get tested first to see if your child is > >> even a good candidate. not > >> all children will respond positively to mb12. > many > >> do. as always, every > >> child is different and will respond differently. > >> body chemistry being that it > >> is... > >> > >> vicki > >> > >> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been > >> removed] > >> > >> > > > > > > Barb Katsaros > > barbkatsaros@... > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2006 Report Share Posted February 5, 2006 Barb, My son was a pt of Dr. Gs for almost 3 yrs, no longer. I'm quite sure he's against them, since it is a megadose of B-12. We decided to do the shots instead of spray since the spray is relatively new and our Dr. hadn't heard enough feedback on it. After 2 years of doing the horrible IMGG shots, the B12 is a walk in the park. My son doesn't feel them at all, even with no numbing cream or ice cube. I've heard lots of kids have really done well on them, I even exchanged emails with an adult Aspie who told me they were the only thing that made her have a clear head. I just really haven't seen anything from them, good or bad. I even let give me one (before I tried it on him) and I didn't feel any different, either, for what that's worth!! Re: MB12 Shots >> >> >> > Are there potential side effects? Do you know if >> Dr. >> > G goes along with this treatment? Barb >> > >> > --- vickila1@... wrote: >> > >> >> as with EVERYTHING, including lots of rx meds, >> you >> >> have to be careful. >> >> everyone should only do a particular protocol >> under >> >> direction of a doctor. it is >> >> best to get tested first to see if your child is >> >> even a good candidate. not >> >> all children will respond positively to mb12. >> many >> >> do. as always, every >> >> child is different and will respond differently. >> >> body chemistry being that it >> >> is... >> >> >> >> vicki >> >> >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been >> >> removed] >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > Barb Katsaros >> > barbkatsaros@... >> > >> > __________________________________________________ >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2006 Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 Hi I have a 6yr old boy with Autism that tends to be hyperactive for the most part and have been wondering what to give him to calm down. I saw a doctor Dec 20th and I was interested in MB12 shots...so I started them Dec 26th. every 3 days. I wanted to see some reaction the same day of course that didn't happen. What did happen is since he has been back to school 20 days after starting the shots the reports have been glowing about Arun being relaxed and focused since his holiday. I haven't told anyone about what I was doing different. I hope it continues the next step is to add Folinic Acid and review it in 2 weeks. I am pleased overall I am looking forward to more improvements in the future. Rose Norvell <beckeric@...> wrote: Barb, My son was a pt of Dr. Gs for almost 3 yrs, no longer. I'm quite sure he's against them, since it is a megadose of B-12. We decided to do the shots instead of spray since the spray is relatively new and our Dr. hadn't heard enough feedback on it. After 2 years of doing the horrible IMGG shots, the B12 is a walk in the park. My son doesn't feel them at all, even with no numbing cream or ice cube. I've heard lots of kids have really done well on them, I even exchanged emails with an adult Aspie who told me they were the only thing that made her have a clear head. I just really haven't seen anything from them, good or bad. I even let give me one (before I tried it on him) and I didn't feel any different, either, for what that's worth!! Re: MB12 Shots >> >> >> > Are there potential side effects? Do you know if >> Dr. >> > G goes along with this treatment? Barb >> > >> > --- vickila1@... wrote: >> > >> >> as with EVERYTHING, including lots of rx meds, >> you >> >> have to be careful. >> >> everyone should only do a particular protocol >> under >> >> direction of a doctor. it is >> >> best to get tested first to see if your child is >> >> even a good candidate. not >> >> all children will respond positively to mb12. >> many >> >> do. as always, every >> >> child is different and will respond differently. >> >> body chemistry being that it >> >> is... >> >> >> >> vicki >> >> >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been >> >> removed] >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > Barb Katsaros >> > barbkatsaros@... >> > >> > __________________________________________________ >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2006 Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 Is there some kind of testing done to determine if the shots or spray are indicated? Blood levels of B12? Thanks for your input, all! Barb --- Rose Chand <rosechand@...> wrote: > Hi > I have a 6yr old boy with Autism that tends to be > hyperactive for the most part and have been > wondering what to give him to calm down. I saw a > doctor Dec 20th and I was interested in MB12 > shots...so I started them Dec 26th. every 3 days. > I wanted to see some reaction the same day of > course that didn't happen. What did happen is since > he has been back to school 20 days after starting > the shots the reports have been glowing about Arun > being relaxed and focused since his holiday. I > haven't told anyone about what I was doing > different. I hope it continues the next step is to > add Folinic Acid and review it in 2 weeks. > I am pleased overall I am looking forward to more > improvements in the future. > > Rose > > Norvell <beckeric@...> wrote: > Barb, > > My son was a pt of Dr. Gs for almost 3 > yrs, no longer. I'm quite > sure he's against them, since it is a megadose of > B-12. > > We decided to do the shots instead of spray since > the spray is relatively > new and our Dr. hadn't heard enough feedback on > it. After 2 years of doing > the horrible > IMGG shots, the B12 is a walk in the park. My son > doesn't feel them at all, > even with no numbing cream or ice cube. > > I've heard lots of kids have really done well > on them, I even exchanged > emails with an adult Aspie who told me they were > the only thing that made > her have a clear head. > I just really haven't seen anything from them, > good or bad. > I even let give me one (before I tried it on > him) and I didn't feel > any different, either, for what that's worth!! > > > > > > Re: MB12 Shots > >> > >> > >> > Are there potential side effects? Do you > know if > >> Dr. > >> > G goes along with this treatment? Barb > >> > > >> > --- vickila1@... wrote: > >> > > >> >> as with EVERYTHING, including lots of rx > meds, > >> you > >> >> have to be careful. > >> >> everyone should only do a particular > protocol > >> under > >> >> direction of a doctor. it is > >> >> best to get tested first to see if your > child is > >> >> even a good candidate. not > >> >> all children will respond positively to > mb12. > >> many > >> >> do. as always, every > >> >> child is different and will respond > differently. > >> >> body chemistry being that it > >> >> is... > >> >> > >> >> vicki > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been > >> >> removed] > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > Barb Katsaros > >> > barbkatsaros@... > >> > > >> > > __________________________________________________ > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 In a message dated 2/6/2006 8:11:32 PM Pacific Standard Time, barbkatsaros@... writes: Is there some kind of testing done to determine if the shots or spray are indicated? Blood levels of B12? Thanks for your input, all! Barb not that i know of. the child is the best test. for unk reasons, some respond better to the nasal spray. good question for the mb12 valtrex list group. vicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 I'm sorry to bud in, but you mention megadose of B-12? That sounds alot. Is the B-12 methylated? What is the dosage recommended for your child? We are currently doing 25mg/ml mB12 (methylcobaltamine). Each shot is only 0.05 ml every other day. The shot is given in the fatty area on the buttock. Re: MB12 Shots Barb, My son was a pt of Dr. Gs for almost 3 yrs, no longer. I'm quite sure he's against them, since it is a megadose of B-12. We decided to do the shots instead of spray since the spray is relatively new and our Dr. hadn't heard enough feedback on it. After 2 years of doing the horrible IMGG shots, the B12 is a walk in the park. My son doesn't feel them at all, even with no numbing cream or ice cube. I've heard lots of kids have really done well on them, I even exchanged emails with an adult Aspie who told me they were the only thing that made her have a clear head. I just really haven't seen anything from them, good or bad. I even let give me one (before I tried it on him) and I didn't feel any different, either, for what that's worth!! Re: MB12 Shots >> >> >> > Are there potential side effects? Do you know if >> Dr. >> > G goes along with this treatment? Barb >> > >> > --- vickila1@... wrote: >> > >> >> as with EVERYTHING, including lots of rx meds, >> you >> >> have to be careful. >> >> everyone should only do a particular protocol >> under >> >> direction of a doctor. it is >> >> best to get tested first to see if your child is >> >> even a good candidate. not >> >> all children will respond positively to mb12. >> many >> >> do. as always, every >> >> child is different and will respond differently. >> >> body chemistry being that it >> >> is... >> >> >> >> vicki >> >> >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been >> >> removed] >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > Barb Katsaros >> > barbkatsaros@... >> > >> > __________________________________________________ >> > Do You ? >> > Tired of spam? has the best spam >> protection around >> > http://mail. >> > >> > >> > Responsibility for the content of this message >> lies strictly with >> > the original author(s), and is not necessarily >> endorsed by or the >> > opinion of the Research Institute and/or the >> Parent Coalition. >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 Yes, we're doing the methyl B-12 also, similar dosage as yours. Dr. G would consider it a megadose, since it is in excess of the daily RDA, was my point. Becky Re: MB12 Shots >>> >>> >>> > Are there potential side effects? Do you know if >>> Dr. >>> > G goes along with this treatment? Barb >>> > >>> > --- vickila1@... wrote: >>> > >>> >> as with EVERYTHING, including lots of rx meds, >>> you >>> >> have to be careful. >>> >> everyone should only do a particular protocol >>> under >>> >> direction of a doctor. it is >>> >> best to get tested first to see if your child is >>> >> even a good candidate. not >>> >> all children will respond positively to mb12. >>> many >>> >> do. as always, every >>> >> child is different and will respond differently. >>> >> body chemistry being that it >>> >> is... >>> >> >>> >> vicki >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been >>> >> removed] >>> >> >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> > Barb Katsaros >>> > barbkatsaros@... >>> > >>> > __________________________________________________ >>> > Do You ? >>> > Tired of spam? has the best spam >>> protection around >>> > http://mail. >>> > >>> > >>> > Responsibility for the content of this message >>> lies strictly with >>> > the original author(s), and is not necessarily >>> endorsed by or the >>> > opinion of the Research Institute and/or the >>> Parent Coalition. >>> > >>> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2006 Report Share Posted February 18, 2006 go to drneubrander.com to find out all you need to know. he is the pioneer of the shots and developed the protocol and exact method to get the best results. We have been using them for one year with him and have had phenominal results. > > We are planning on starting our son (4 yrs old, diagnosed with PDD) on > MB12 shots with a doctor in NJ. Does anyone have any experience with > this (positive or negative)? Are there any side effects? > > Thanks > Vas and > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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