Re: Having really bad heart fluttering

[Guest guest]

Mitral valve prolapse is not unusual in hypothyroid people and may be the cause of your heart flutters. Do talk to your doctor about this.

You say you were taking two Armour pills a day. What is the dose of each pill? I seem to remember that you had started on 120 mg pills. Armour comes in 15, 30, 60, 90, 120, 180, 240, and 300 mg pills. One grain = 60 mg. Any increases should generally be made in 15-30 mg increments.

You may be overmedicated or you may have increased your dose too fast.

>> Hi, > > Does anyone have heart fluttering with your thyroid problem? How often? > I have had heart fluttering on and off throughout the day for about 2 > wks now. I went to my chiro because I was having some back pain as > well. I was thinking the heart fluttering was coming from that. I had 2 > ribs out and my chiro said it could be causing the heart fluttering. I > had my adjustment on Sat and I am still having the heart fluttering. I > am now wondering if it is from my thyroid problem or maybe my meds are > not right or something. The Dr said for me to take 2 pills a day of the > Armour. I am just taking one because the last time I tried to take 2 I > felt weird and had a lot of anxiety. I am wondering if I need to take > the 2 pills which would be 2grains a day or if I need to lower the > dose. Its hard to tell. I am due to go back and get my levels checked > after Christmas. > > Thanks,> >

[Guest guest]

I have not increased my thyroid meds yet. She wanted me to take 2

pills a day which are 30mg each but I am only taking 1 pill a day. So

30 mg a day.

I will check that other out. Thanks.

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > Does anyone have heart fluttering with your thyroid problem? How

> often?

> > I have had heart fluttering on and off throughout the day for

about 2

> > wks now. I went to my chiro because I was having some back pain as

> > well. I was thinking the heart fluttering was coming from that. I

had

> 2

> > ribs out and my chiro said it could be causing the heart

fluttering. I

> > had my adjustment on Sat and I am still having the heart

fluttering. I

> > am now wondering if it is from my thyroid problem or maybe my

meds are

> > not right or something. The Dr said for me to take 2 pills a day

of

> the

> > Armour. I am just taking one because the last time I tried to

take 2 I

> > felt weird and had a lot of anxiety. I am wondering if I need to

take

> > the 2 pills which would be 2grains a day or if I need to lower the

> > dose. Its hard to tell. I am due to go back and get my levels

checked

> > after Christmas.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I take armour, and have back and neck issues too and

see chiro. I also have mitral valve prolapse. A few

months ago, I developed a racy heart with flutters it

was so bothersome. I thought my doc would take down

my armour but she didnt. She changed the way and

times I took it. I now take 2 pills upon waking and

one around 1pm. I also take with food so that it

doesnt give me a shock but gets released more slowly.

I was suprised that a change that minor would do the

trick but it sure has.... I think my heart and

nervous system are just more sensitive. I do know

when my back is out, that can aggravate my heartbeat,

so it may be a combination of factors for you.

--- bjvitale1 wrote:

> Hi,

>

> Does anyone have heart fluttering with your thyroid

> problem? How often?

> I have had heart fluttering on and off throughout

> the day for about 2

> wks now. I went to my chiro because I was having

> some back pain as

> well. I was thinking the heart fluttering was coming

> from that. I had 2

> ribs out and my chiro said it could be causing the

> heart fluttering. I

> had my adjustment on Sat and I am still having the

> heart fluttering. I

> am now wondering if it is from my thyroid problem or

> maybe my meds are

> not right or something. The Dr said for me to take 2

> pills a day of the

> Armour. I am just taking one because the last time I

> tried to take 2 I

> felt weird and had a lot of anxiety. I am wondering

> if I need to take

> the 2 pills which would be 2grains a day or if I

> need to lower the

> dose. Its hard to tell. I am due to go back and get

> my levels checked

> after Christmas.

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

I had that when I was undermedicated. 30mg is a tiny dose. When you took

60 mg did they have you try splitting the dose? I can't remember if the

ferritin and adrenals were checked.

Have you talked to your doctor about 30mg am and 30mg around 2pm. Or even

30mg am and 15mg around 2pm. I would talk to your doctor.

Kate

At 11:19 AM 12/17/2007, you wrote:

>I have not increased my thyroid meds yet. She wanted me to take 2

>pills a day which are 30mg each but I am only taking 1 pill a day. So

>30 mg a day.

>I will check that other out. Thanks.

>

>

>

>

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > Does anyone have heart fluttering with your thyroid problem? How

> > often?

> > > I have had heart fluttering on and off throughout the day for

>about 2

> > > wks now. I went to my chiro because I was having some back pain as

> > > well. I was thinking the heart fluttering was coming from that. I

>had

> > 2

> > > ribs out and my chiro said it could be causing the heart

>fluttering. I

> > > had my adjustment on Sat and I am still having the heart

>fluttering. I

> > > am now wondering if it is from my thyroid problem or maybe my

>meds are

> > > not right or something. The Dr said for me to take 2 pills a day

>of

> > the

> > > Armour. I am just taking one because the last time I tried to

>take 2 I

> > > felt weird and had a lot of anxiety. I am wondering if I need to

>take

> > > the 2 pills which would be 2grains a day or if I need to lower the

> > > dose. Its hard to tell. I am due to go back and get my levels

>checked

> > > after Christmas.

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Thanks for all the replies. I now have a pill that is 30mg but in the

beginning it was 60 and I split that. At first though she had me

taking one 60mg every other day and then I went to taking half every

day. It may be that my dose does need to be upped. I see her again

after Christmas.

My ferritin was off. I stopped the iron thinking it was better but it

could still not be right. I have gone back to taking iron.

Is the valve prolapse easily digonosed by listening to the heart with

a stethoscope or does a heart sonogram need to be done. I have always

had anxiety and heart fluttering/racing on and off but I have never

had the heart fluttering this many times in a day. So its concerning.

I recently went to the hospital ER when all of this happened and they

did the heart monitoring and the EKG. Everything was fine so I doubt

it is the valve prolapse. You think they would of found it then.

Well, I am back to taking my iron and may see if upping my dose of

Armour would help but I am kinda afraid to do that in case it makes

it worse. I do see my Dr again after Christmas so I will talk things

over with her and see what she has to say.

Thanks for all the help.

BRandi

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > >

> > > > Does anyone have heart fluttering with your thyroid problem?

How

> > > often?

> > > > I have had heart fluttering on and off throughout the day for

> >about 2

> > > > wks now. I went to my chiro because I was having some back

pain as

> > > > well. I was thinking the heart fluttering was coming from

that. I

> >had

> > > 2

> > > > ribs out and my chiro said it could be causing the heart

> >fluttering. I

> > > > had my adjustment on Sat and I am still having the heart

> >fluttering. I

> > > > am now wondering if it is from my thyroid problem or maybe my

> >meds are

> > > > not right or something. The Dr said for me to take 2 pills a

day

> >of

> > > the

> > > > Armour. I am just taking one because the last time I tried to

> >take 2 I

> > > > felt weird and had a lot of anxiety. I am wondering if I need

to

> >take

> > > > the 2 pills which would be 2grains a day or if I need to

lower the

> > > > dose. Its hard to tell. I am due to go back and get my levels

> >checked

> > > > after Christmas.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Yes I usually do not ever post. But I am hypothyroid and do not know if this has anything to do with it or not. I have the heart flutters and have been going to the cardiologist for several months now and all the test have not showed up much and he thinks it might be thyroid related. I wake up most mornings with extreme flutters and rush of adrenaline that makes me sick for several hours. He said he had never heard of that before and told me to quit using the alarm which sets it off. But, as soon as I open my eyes, it happens, and it is very scary. Does anyone else have this? Loribjvitale1 wrote: Hi, Does anyone have heart fluttering with your thyroid problem? How often? I have had heart fluttering on and off throughout the day for about 2 wks now.

I went to my chiro because I was having some back pain as well. I was thinking the heart fluttering was coming from that. I had 2 ribs out and my chiro said it could be causing the heart fluttering. I had my adjustment on Sat and I am still having the heart fluttering. I am now wondering if it is from my thyroid problem or maybe my meds are not right or something. The Dr said for me to take 2 pills a day of the Armour. I am just taking one because the last time I tried to take 2 I felt weird and had a lot of anxiety. I am wondering if I need to take the 2 pills which would be 2grains a day or if I need to lower the dose. Its hard to tell. I am due to go back and get my levels checked after Christmas. Thanks,

[Guest guest]

It takes a long time to build a good ferritin

level. I don’t know how low yours was but I don’t plan on stopping

my iron supplement until the doctor tells me to stop. I started out at about

13.

Kim

From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups [mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On Behalf Of bjvitale1

Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007

4:53 PM

To: Texas_Thyroid_Groups

Subject:

Re: Having really bad heart fluttering

Hi,

Thanks for all the replies. I now have a pill that is 30mg but in the

beginning it was 60 and I split that. At first though she had me

taking one 60mg every other day and then I went to taking half every

day. It may be that my dose does need to be upped. I see her again

after Christmas.

My ferritin was off. I stopped the iron thinking it was better but it

could still not be right. I have gone back to taking iron.

Is the valve prolapse easily digonosed by listening to the heart with

a stethoscope or does a heart sonogram need to be done. I have always

had anxiety and heart fluttering/racing on and off but I have never

had the heart fluttering this many times in a day. So its concerning.

I recently went to the hospital ER when all of this happened and they

did the heart monitoring and the EKG. Everything was fine so I doubt

it is the valve prolapse. You think they would of found it then.

Well, I am back to taking my iron and may see if upping my dose of

Armour would help but I am kinda afraid to do that in case it makes

it worse. I do see my Dr again after Christmas so I will talk things

over with her and see what she has to say.

Thanks for all the help.

BRandi

[Guest guest]

Have you had your cortisol tested? And your ferritin?

Kate G

At 05:26 PM 12/17/2007, you wrote:

>Yes

>I usually do not ever post. But I am hypothyroid and do not know if this

>has anything to do with it or not. I have the heart flutters and have been

>going to the cardiologist for several months now and all the test have not

>showed up much and he thinks it might be thyroid related.

>I wake up most mornings with extreme flutters and rush of adrenaline that

>makes me sick for several hours. He said he had never heard of that before

>and told me to quit using the alarm which sets it off. But, as soon as I

>open my eyes, it happens, and it is very scary.

>Does anyone else have this?

>Lori

>

>bjvitale1 wrote:

>Hi,

>

>Does anyone have heart fluttering with your thyroid problem? How often?

>I have had heart fluttering on and off throughout the day for about 2

>wks now. I went to my chiro because I was having some back pain as

>well. I was thinking the heart fluttering was coming from that. I had 2

>ribs out and my chiro said it could be causing the heart fluttering. I

>had my adjustment on Sat and I am still having the heart fluttering. I

>am now wondering if it is from my thyroid problem or maybe my meds are

>not right or something. The Dr said for me to take 2 pills a day of the

>Armour. I am just taking one because the last time I tried to take 2 I

>felt weird and had a lot of anxiety. I am wondering if I need to take

>the 2 pills which would be 2grains a day or if I need to lower the

>dose. Its hard to tell. I am due to go back and get my levels checked

>after Christmas.

>

>Thanks,

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I had this yrs ago, around 20 yrs ago, as one of my first symptoms of Hashimoto's, but it was the "first phase", HYPERthyroid, when I still had all of my thyroid function going on, and I want to say that I was probably running a very high cortisol, more than likely, from stress, ongoing stressful situations, and possibly "fluctuating" thyroid function, unknown to me. I had also just had a hyst to top it all off, which doesn't make anything very pretty either. Right upon consciousness (waking), my heart rate and depth of beat would kick way up, beat hard and fast, and I would be having one long "panic attack" right up until about 4 in the afternoon, at which time it would all stop as suddenly as it started. From that point on, until I was diagnosed with thyroid disease, I was fed one tranquilizer after the other and antidepressants, to boot. It was actually the only thing that "saved me", as the dumbos I went to never would test me for thyroid disorder, even though I pointed at my medical book and said "that sounds like me, just like me". They wouldn't listen or heed. It took more than 7 yrs yrs from the first event of it to get a diagnosis. I was checked out to see if I had mitral valve prolapse, but did not, don't know if I do now, but didn't just two yrs ago either. I have palps once in awhile now, but not to the depth that I did then. It scared me so badly because I didn't know what was going on, stayed in a state of what I would now call "shock" MOST of the time for those 7 yrs, with constant freefloating anxiety, then later on something that one doc called bipolar, yet it all disappeared at one time, lol. I would also be nauseated a lot of the time, and I even thought I had a gastric problem, but no. They never ran the right tests on me, everywhere I went. I wasn't diagnosed until I was severely HYPOthyroid with tremors and the feeling of "impending doom", and that was all in one day, for the most part, I believe. You are not going crazy, though you think you are. You will even have doctors hint that that's what it's all about, just "mental" stuff. Well, that's the sort of "mental" stuff that thyroid disease can cause, and it did me. I would, however, get checked out for the MVP, because HYPOthyroidism can cause that, over a prolonged period of time. That little stretch of tissue that "flings" downward, then up again, is just like so much other muscle tissue in the body, and is grossly affected by hypo just like other muscle tissue is. I know that HYPER can cause heart problems, but I have read tons of info on hypo and MVP. Did you say that your adrenal function has been tested, either one of you who are experiencing this?

Re: Having really bad heart fluttering

Yes

I usually do not ever post. But I am hypothyroid and do not know if this has anything to do with it or not. I have the heart flutters and have been going to the cardiologist for several months now and all the test have not showed up much and he thinks it might be thyroid related.

I wake up most mornings with extreme flutters and rush of adrenaline that makes me sick for several hours. He said he had never heard of that before and told me to quit using the alarm which sets it off. But, as soon as I open my eyes, it happens, and it is very scary.

Does anyone else have this?

Loribjvitale1 wrote:

Hi, Does anyone have heart fluttering with your thyroid problem? How often? I have had heart fluttering on and off throughout the day for about 2 wks now. I went to my chiro because I was having some back pain as well. I was thinking the heart fluttering was coming from that. I had 2 ribs out and my chiro said it could be causing the heart fluttering. I had my adjustment on Sat and I am still having the heart fluttering. I am now wondering if it is from my thyroid problem or maybe my meds are not right or something. The Dr said for me to take 2 pills a day of the Armour. I am just taking one because the last time I tried to take 2 I felt weird and had a lot of anxiety. I am wondering if I need to take the 2 pills which would be 2grains a day or if I need to lower the dose. Its hard to tell. I am due to go back and get my levels checked after Christmas. Thanks,

[Guest guest]

MVP must be diagnosed by taking a " moving picture " of your heart actually in

action. Mine was done on the treadmill under stress walking-running,

recorded, then played back. You can see the chambers of the heart while it

is beating. This cannot be done in a certain way any other way at all. If

you didn't have this done, then they don't know, period. What is your age?

Are you very young, or are you around perimenopause. This can even be (for

some women) at a younger age. Mine started at around 30 to 32 yrs old. You

don't say exactly what your ferritin levels have been running at this time.

Re: Having really bad heart fluttering

> Hi,

>

> Thanks for all the replies. I now have a pill that is 30mg but in the

> beginning it was 60 and I split that. At first though she had me

> taking one 60mg every other day and then I went to taking half every

> day. It may be that my dose does need to be upped. I see her again

> after Christmas.

> My ferritin was off. I stopped the iron thinking it was better but it

> could still not be right. I have gone back to taking iron.

>

> Is the valve prolapse easily digonosed by listening to the heart with

> a stethoscope or does a heart sonogram need to be done. I have always

> had anxiety and heart fluttering/racing on and off but I have never

> had the heart fluttering this many times in a day. So its concerning.

> I recently went to the hospital ER when all of this happened and they

> did the heart monitoring and the EKG. Everything was fine so I doubt

> it is the valve prolapse. You think they would of found it then.

>

> Well, I am back to taking my iron and may see if upping my dose of

> Armour would help but I am kinda afraid to do that in case it makes

> it worse. I do see my Dr again after Christmas so I will talk things

> over with her and see what she has to say.

>

> Thanks for all the help.

>

> BRandi

[Guest guest]

Does it have to be on a treadmill? Mine was tested just lying on a

table for half an hour while she pressed all around with the wand

thingy (some of it hurt dammit). I don't know if it was an

ultrasound? Medical terms still confuse me.

I was told I did NOT have it though most every doctor who's listened

to my heart has commented it sounds like I do (I have that clicking

sound or whatever it is). I questioned this result of course and my

doctor got a bit of an attitude with me by saying " You don't WANT

this...why are you arguing? I'm telling you you're fine! " Well, I

don't know, since I have all the damn symptoms and at least 4 other

doctors have commented that I probably do...I'm just freaking curious

how accurate it is, moron! lol

Jul

> MVP must be diagnosed by taking a " moving picture " of your heart actually in

> action. Mine was done on the treadmill under stress walking-running,

> recorded, then played back. You can see the chambers of the heart while it

> is beating. This cannot be done in a certain way any other way at all. If

> you didn't have this done, then they don't know, period.

[Guest guest]

Yes, and the crucial part is how well is a doctor versed at what he/she is

looking at, when it comes to a heart. A good cardiologist may see something

that another doctor without those " eyes " may not see. I did watch the

" picture " , as I call it, and you can clearly identify the little mitral

valved because it flops open and whips back up, closing that " hole " or valve

to keep the blood from flowing back the other way, as it continues on down

the blood vessel.

Re: Re: Having really bad heart fluttering

> Does it have to be on a treadmill? Mine was tested just lying on a

> table for half an hour while she pressed all around with the wand

> thingy (some of it hurt dammit). I don't know if it was an

> ultrasound? Medical terms still confuse me.

>

> I was told I did NOT have it though most every doctor who's listened

> to my heart has commented it sounds like I do (I have that clicking

> sound or whatever it is). I questioned this result of course and my

> doctor got a bit of an attitude with me by saying " You don't WANT

> this...why are you arguing? I'm telling you you're fine! " Well, I

> don't know, since I have all the damn symptoms and at least 4 other

> doctors have commented that I probably do...I'm just freaking curious

> how accurate it is, moron! lol

>

> Jul

[Guest guest]

Where did you learn that? I have had two cardiologist do ultrasound of the heart

and I definitely have MVP. They can also hear the click through the thesescope

(you know, the thingy they wear around their necks and plug into their ears to

listen to the heart).

Re: Having really bad heart fluttering

> Hi,

>

> Thanks for all the replies. I now have a pill that is 30mg but in the

> beginning it was 60 and I split that. At first though she had me

> taking one 60mg every other day and then I went to taking half every

> day. It may be that my dose does need to be upped. I see her again

> after Christmas.

> My ferritin was off. I stopped the iron thinking it was better but it

> could still not be right. I have gone back to taking iron.

>

> Is the valve prolapse easily digonosed by listening to the heart with

> a stethoscope or does a heart sonogram need to be done. I have always

> had anxiety and heart fluttering/racing on and off but I have never

> had the heart fluttering this many times in a day. So its concerning.

> I recently went to the hospital ER when all of this happened and they

> did the heart monitoring and the EKG. Everything was fine so I doubt

> it is the valve prolapse. You think they would of found it then.

>

> Well, I am back to taking my iron and may see if upping my dose of

> Armour would help but I am kinda afraid to do that in case it makes

> it worse. I do see my Dr again after Christmas so I will talk things

> over with her and see what she has to say.

>

> Thanks for all the help.

>

> BRandi

[Guest guest]

You can definitely see this with just an ultra sound, laying on a table in

different positions. I saw these pictures too, and I was not on a treadmill.

Re: Re: Having really bad heart fluttering

> Does it have to be on a treadmill? Mine was tested just lying on a

> table for half an hour while she pressed all around with the wand

> thingy (some of it hurt dammit). I don't know if it was an

> ultrasound? Medical terms still confuse me.

>

> I was told I did NOT have it though most every doctor who's listened

> to my heart has commented it sounds like I do (I have that clicking

> sound or whatever it is). I questioned this result of course and my

> doctor got a bit of an attitude with me by saying " You don't WANT

> this...why are you arguing? I'm telling you you're fine! " Well, I

> don't know, since I have all the damn symptoms and at least 4 other

> doctors have commented that I probably do...I'm just freaking curious

> how accurate it is, moron! lol

>

> Jul

[Guest guest]

Yeah, I think I laid in various positions. It took forever and I was

about to fall asleep on the table. Only thing that kept me awake

was how uncomfortable it felt at times with that wand pressed into me.

I saw the picture on the screen but didn't really know what I was

looking at. Well, I knew WHAT I was looking at but it was all

meaningless to me.

Other than being on antibiotics before dental visits and surgeries and

such, what do they do for MVP? Anything at all?

> You can definitely see this with just an ultra sound, laying on a table in

different positions. I saw these pictures too, and I was not on a treadmill.

>

> Re: Re: Having really bad heart fluttering

>

>

> > Does it have to be on a treadmill? Mine was tested just lying on a

> > table for half an hour while she pressed all around with the wand

> > thingy (some of it hurt dammit). I don't know if it was an

> > ultrasound? Medical terms still confuse me.

> >

> > I was told I did NOT have it though most every doctor who's listened

> > to my heart has commented it sounds like I do (I have that clicking

> > sound or whatever it is). I questioned this result of course and my

> > doctor got a bit of an attitude with me by saying " You don't WANT

> > this...why are you arguing? I'm telling you you're fine! " Well, I

> > don't know, since I have all the damn symptoms and at least 4 other

> > doctors have commented that I probably do...I'm just freaking curious

> > how accurate it is, moron! lol

> >

> > Jul

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'm pretty sure the guy who did mine (or the one who read the " test "

that is) was a cardiologist.

Jul

> Yes, and the crucial part is how well is a doctor versed at what he/she is

> looking at, when it comes to a heart. A good cardiologist may see something

> that another doctor without those " eyes " may not see. I did watch the

> " picture " , as I call it, and you can clearly identify the little mitral

> valved because it flops open and whips back up, closing that " hole " or valve

> to keep the blood from flowing back the other way, as it continues on down

> the blood vessel.

>

>

[Guest guest]

The Heart Association has determined that most patients do not need antibiotics

before dental work

http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=3047083. I don't take

them any more, and my cardiologist faxed this info to my dentist about 6 months

ago. This is new (April 2007).

Otherwise, most MVP is just MVP and it can act up when under stress. A few have

worse case that the valve needs to be replaced. More people have it than are

ever diagnosed.

Re: Re: Having really bad heart fluttering

>

>

> > Does it have to be on a treadmill? Mine was tested just lying on a

> > table for half an hour while she pressed all around with the wand

> > thingy (some of it hurt dammit). I don't know if it was an

> > ultrasound? Medical terms still confuse me.

> >

> > I was told I did NOT have it though most every doctor who's listened

> > to my heart has commented it sounds like I do (I have that clicking

> > sound or whatever it is). I questioned this result of course and my

> > doctor got a bit of an attitude with me by saying " You don't WANT

> > this...why are you arguing? I'm telling you you're fine! " Well, I

> > don't know, since I have all the damn symptoms and at least 4 other

> > doctors have commented that I probably do...I'm just freaking curious

> > how accurate it is, moron! lol

> >

> > Jul

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

They can listen and suspect, but they cannot know until they visualize the

way the mitral valve is actually working. That's why they do visualize it.

That click has to do with the way it flops back up, not completely covering

the " opening " .

Re: Re: Having really bad heart fluttering

> Where did you learn that? I have had two cardiologist do ultrasound of the

> heart and I definitely have MVP. They can also hear the click through the

> thesescope (you know, the thingy they wear around their necks and plug

> into their ears to listen to the heart).

[Guest guest]

Mine were done the way they were done because the doctor stated that they

wanted to see how it was reacting under a faster heavier heart rate, i.e.,

under stress.

Re: Re: Having really bad heart fluttering

> You can definitely see this with just an ultra sound, laying on a table in

> different positions. I saw these pictures too, and I was not on a

> treadmill.

[Guest guest]

I am 33. I dont have the ferritin levels in front of me but it was

very low. Could this be causing the heart flutters as well? I know my

back is really hurting so it may just be due to the ribs that were

out. Its really bothersome though. The other night it was really bad.

It could even be stress. I have not had the adrenals checked. I do

not have insurance right now so am limited to what I can have tested.

Today I feel alittle short of breath as well.

>

> MVP must be diagnosed by taking a " moving picture " of your heart

actually in

> action. Mine was done on the treadmill under stress walking-

running,

> recorded, then played back. You can see the chambers of the heart

while it

> is beating. This cannot be done in a certain way any other way at

all. If

> you didn't have this done, then they don't know, period. What is

your age?

> Are you very young, or are you around perimenopause. This can even

be (for

> some women) at a younger age. Mine started at around 30 to 32 yrs

old. You

> don't say exactly what your ferritin levels have been running at

this time.

>

>

>

> Re: Having really bad heart

fluttering

>

>

> > Hi,

> >

> > Thanks for all the replies. I now have a pill that is 30mg but in

the

> > beginning it was 60 and I split that. At first though she had me

> > taking one 60mg every other day and then I went to taking half

every

> > day. It may be that my dose does need to be upped. I see her again

> > after Christmas.

> > My ferritin was off. I stopped the iron thinking it was better

but it

> > could still not be right. I have gone back to taking iron.

> >

> > Is the valve prolapse easily digonosed by listening to the heart

with

> > a stethoscope or does a heart sonogram need to be done. I have

always

> > had anxiety and heart fluttering/racing on and off but I have

never

> > had the heart fluttering this many times in a day. So its

concerning.

> > I recently went to the hospital ER when all of this happened and

they

> > did the heart monitoring and the EKG. Everything was fine so I

doubt

> > it is the valve prolapse. You think they would of found it then.

> >

> > Well, I am back to taking my iron and may see if upping my dose of

> > Armour would help but I am kinda afraid to do that in case it

makes

> > it worse. I do see my Dr again after Christmas so I will talk

things

> > over with her and see what she has to say.

> >

> > Thanks for all the help.

> >

> > BRandi

>

[Guest guest]

Yes! I've had the heart fluttering thing off and on since I went hypo.

I was told by Dr. R. that sometimes patients get the heart

flutters/palpitations from being too HYPO, not hyper, which seems to

be the case for me. The lower my T3 goes, the more fluttering I have.

Dr. R. put me on a very very low dose of Toprol which has almost cut

the heart fluttering out completely.

Good luck! I know how scary those flutters are... I was certain I was

having a heart attack so many nights.

--Kim

[Guest guest]

Lori,

YES! I had this problem for quite a while. I hated waking up in that

crazy state of panic. It's no way to start the day! I can say that as

I'm evening out a bit (and the lowest dose of Xanax and a beta blocker

first thing in the morning), I'm not having it as bad. For a month or

so, I dreaded waking up because of the pounding/flutters/anxiety first

thing in the morning.

I, too, have had lots and lots of heart tests done and no one can find

anything wrong with it. Always a fast heartbeat, but a normal rhythm.

I hope things get better!

--Kim

[Guest guest]

Actually yea.....I had similar symptoms for years until just recently. After my last Armour increase all that is gone. Anytime anything would wake me my heart would race and the rush of adrenaline would be just scary.

To: Texas_Thyroid_Groups From: chstnlr@...Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:26:21 -0800Subject: Re: Having really bad heart fluttering

Yes

I usually do not ever post. But I am hypothyroid and do not know if this has anything to do with it or not. I have the heart flutters and have been going to the cardiologist for several months now and all the test have not showed up much and he thinks it might be thyroid related.

I wake up most mornings with extreme flutters and rush of adrenaline that makes me sick for several hours. He said he had never heard of that before and told me to quit using the alarm which sets it off. But, as soon as I open my eyes, it happens, and it is very scary.

Does anyone else have this?

Loribjvitale1 wrote:

Hi, Does anyone have heart fluttering with your thyroid problem? How often? I have had heart fluttering on and off throughout the day for about 2 wks now. I went to my chiro because I was having some back pain as well. I was thinking the heart fluttering was coming from that. I had 2 ribs out and my chiro said it could be causing the heart fluttering. I had my adjustment on Sat and I am still having the heart fluttering. I am now wondering if it is from my thyroid problem or maybe my meds are not right or something. The Dr said for me to take 2 pills a day of the Armour. I am just taking one because the last time I tried to take 2 I felt weird and had a lot of anxiety. I am wondering if I need to take the 2 pills which would be 2grains a day or if I need to lower the dose. Its hard to tell. I am due to go back and get my levels checked after Christmas. Thanks,

[Guest guest]

-I was talking w/ coworkers and they were telling me that people

w/thyroid problems can get irregular heartbeats and that there needs

to be cardiovascular shocks to re-regulate the hearbeat. don't know,

but maybe that should be checked into? Don't take this for gospel

because my doctor never told me about it, but then he tried to tell

me that armourthyroid wasn't made anymore!(I know 2 peeps that take

it). He has me on 125 synthyroid and .10 of cytomel. Good luck!-

Jennabug

-- In Texas_Thyroid_Groups , Audra Hudnall

wrote:

>

> Actually yea.....I had similar symptoms for years until just

recently. After my last Armour increase all that is gone. Anytime

anything would wake me my heart would race and the rush of

adrenaline would be just scary.

>

>

> To: Texas_Thyroid_Groups@...: chstnlr@...: Mon, 17 Dec 2007

15:26:21 -0800Subject: Re: Having really bad

heart fluttering

>

>

>

> Yes

> I usually do not ever post. But I am hypothyroid and do not know

if this has anything to do with it or not. I have the heart flutters

and have been going to the cardiologist for several months now and

all the test have not showed up much and he thinks it might be

thyroid related.

> I wake up most mornings with extreme flutters and rush of

adrenaline that makes me sick for several hours. He said he had

never heard of that before and told me to quit using the alarm which

sets it off. But, as soon as I open my eyes, it happens, and it is

very scary.

> Does anyone else have this?

> Loribjvitale1 wrote:

>

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[Guest guest]

>

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>We were talking about this at work, and one guy had had irregular

heartbeats due to hypothyroidism and they had to shock it back to

regular beatings. My doc. never warned me about this, although we

have a history of heart disease in my family. he also tried to tell

me that armourthyroid wasn't made anymore although I know of two

people that take it.(I'm on 125 synthroid and.5 of cytomel). I've

only known I've had this for a year, but trying to get educated.

Good Luck!