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Thanks for your reply, susie

Actually I looked at herbalcom, but perhaps I'm just missing it. I just looked up the botanical name, so I'll look again with that.

Love,

Roni

uziesgoats <suziesgoats@...> wrote:

-Try herbalcom.com - i think they carry it-- In health , "roni_slye" <roni_slye@y...> wrote:> > Hi everyone,> I've been perusing the files and have decided that my next batch of > total nutrition I will make without the nutritional yeast using the > complete nutrition recipe. However, I have looked at both mountain > Rose herbs and herbalcom and cannot find siberian ginseng. Can I use > american instead, or do you know where I can get the siberian? What > is the difference between the two? Thanks in advance for any info on > this.> > Love,> Roni

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suzi

-- In health , Roni Slye

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> I did find Eleutherococcus senticosus at herbalcom. Just want to

make sure this is the right stuff. Am I correct that this is the

botanical name for siberian ginseng?

>

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Thanks, Suzi. Will do that. Maybe an hour or two *after* the grapefruit/orange/lime juice, or maybe do the TN first and then an hour or so later do my citrus juice. One of the things I'm **loving** about living in South Florida for the winter (besides cleaning the pool instead of shoveling snow<G>) is my daily morning fresh citrus juice. It's become a staple.

The reason I asked about the grapefruit juice inhibiting absorption is that once I started taking it (with my daily vitamins which are many!) I started getting little weird things happening like my vitamins weren't being absorbed properly....foot cramps at night, easy bruising, etc. Nothing major, just little things out of whack. When you said that about grapefruit juice, a little light bulb went off in my head....I'm going to switch completely to TN instead of all the pills/capsules/gelcaps I regularly take and see what happens, and drink the grapefruit juice separate from the nutritional supplements.

Sharyn

From: Suzanne [mailto:suziesgoats@...]

usually in fresh apple juice, usually once a day in the a.m...a hugh tablespoon... sometimes more when I need energy and don't feel like eating... I also have MSM in mine and most always udo oil..

I stated that Grapefruit juice inhibits a special enzyme in the intestines that is responsible for the natural breakdown and absorption of many medications ..

Not sure how it will work with alot of herbs... I most always do not mix my herbs with citrus, with the exception of cayenne and grapeseed extract.

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I know this was discussed and responded to last week, but could someone give me the details on this?

I'll mention again that I have fibromyalgia (with chronic fatigue), restless leg syndrome, chronic insomnia, IBS, Meniere's Disease (mild form at this point). I feel rotten most of the time and HAVE to work in order to have health benefits. My husband was laid off 3 years ago and has recently landed a contract. We are starting to get back on our feet, but contracts don't offer medical insurance.

I am ready to do anything to feel better. I am so exhausted that I can barely manage to get to work and home again. I experience nausea most days and have no energy (is that redundant?) I crash right after dinner and might sit in the recliner before going to bed usually around 7 pm. I get up around 4:45 to go to work.

I would appreciate any help and/or advise anyone can give me. I print off many of the posts/suggestions to read later in the day. I need the energy to read them and make use of hte information.

Thanks so much. I enjoy this group.

mary

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Complete nutrition is a formula (see the organic supplement file and I think the article file) for more information.. It gives you everything you need - you could live off complete nutrition and juices..

Suzi Reilly <setlikeflint@...> wrote:

I know this was discussed and responded to last week, but could someone give me the details on this?

I'll mention again that I have fibromyalgia (with chronic fatigue), restless leg syndrome, chronic insomnia, IBS, Meniere's Disease (mild form at this point). I feel rotten most of the time and HAVE to work in order to have health benefits. My husband was laid off 3 years ago and has recently landed a contract. We are starting to get back on our feet, but contracts don't offer medical insurance.

I am ready to do anything to feel better. I am so exhausted that I can barely manage to get to work and home again. I experience nausea most days and have no energy (is that redundant?) I crash right after dinner and might sit in the recliner before going to bed usually around 7 pm. I get up around 4:45 to go to work.

I would appreciate any help and/or advise anyone can give me. I print off many of the posts/suggestions to read later in the day. I need the energy to read them and make use of hte information.

Thanks so much. I enjoy this group.

mary

For the Lord God helps Me; therefore have I not been ashamed or confounded. Therefore have I set My face like a flint, and I know that I shall not be put to shame. Isa 50:7

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, I really feel for you as I have experienced these diseases myself. You must change your diet and exercise every day. It is extremely hard to break this cycle, believe me I know. First thing you need to completely eliminate from your diet is meat. This part is not as hard as it sounds. Remove as many chemically laden foods, personal and household products as you possible can; make it a project. Exercising in a pool is best, as it is very easy on the joints. Find a health club that has one, their fees are usually not that high for the benefits you will receive. Malic acid supplement is a huge benefit to the pain of FMS - this is a concentrated form of magnesium from apples and you'd have to eat a huge amount of apples at first to get what you need so supplementing is best right now. Some people find fatigue relief from a short course of ginseng in the first stage of this program. Getting yourself the powerful nutrition available in a super nutrition formula (Schultz or ) will do wonders (think all natural products with super green foods). Another thing that helped me is deciding that everything in my life would now have a positive spin ;-) This means a great sense of humor and attitude towards everything that happens in your life. Make sure to make time for you, talk to friends and be happy. And no, I didn't do all this overnight and I was extremely poor at the time, which means anybody can do this hehe. Let us know how you are.

Janet

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Subject: Re: COMPLETE NUTRITION

I know this was discussed and responded to last week, but could someone give me the details on this?

I'll mention again that I have fibromyalgia (with chronic fatigue), restless leg syndrome, chronic insomnia, IBS, Meniere's Disease (mild form at this point). I feel rotten most of the time and HAVE to work in order to have health benefits. My husband was laid off 3 years ago and has recently landed a contract. We are starting to get back on our feet, but contracts don't offer medical insurance.

I am ready to do anything to feel better. I am so exhausted that I can barely manage to get to work and home again. I experience nausea most days and have no energy (is that redundant?) I crash right after dinner and might sit in the recliner before going to bed usually around 7 pm. I get up around 4:45 to go to work.

I would appreciate any help and/or advise anyone can give me. I print off many of the posts/suggestions to read later in the day. I need the energy to read them and make use of hte information.

Thanks so much. I enjoy this group.

mary

For the Lord God helps Me; therefore have I not been ashamed or confounded. Therefore have I set My face like a flint, and I know that I shall not be put to shame. Isa 50:7

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Don and Suzi,

Duh-It never dawned on me to check the files for a recipe. I should

have known that.

Don, I remember you from another list we were on. I have a 14 yr old

with low functioning autism. His diet was great until about a year

ago, when he practally stopped eating just about all raw vegetables.

I can still get him to drink anything(almost anything), so fresh

juices, Perfect food, Super tonic and things like that I can still

get down him. I made some saurkraut this week but he wouldn't take

the juice, I threw some of the kraut in the juicer and got that down

him. I ordered some culture starter for vegetables(like the body

ecology diet stuff) and I'm going to try to culture super tonic,

beets and anything else I can think of to hopefully get

enzymes,probiotics and gut bug killers down him at the same time.

Any suggestions are welcome.

Ann

>

> ======================

> Hi Ann,

>

> I never did get a chance to welcome you to the group. Here is the

> Complete Nutrition Recipe:

>

> COMPLETE NUTRITION

> By Suzanne Nottmeier

>

> This is a whole-food nutritional formula without using the yeast

as in

> Super or Total Nutrition.

> This is a real " super food " supplement, with ingredients that will

truly

> provide nutritional support, energy, and immune system support.

Each

> and every ingredient was selected for their nutritional value and

support

> of vital force, so that when combined in a perfect ratio with all

of the

> ingredients, they form a complete nutritional supplement, promoting

a vital,

> active, healthy life.

>

> Take EQUAL Parts of (1 part)

> Alfalfa Grass,

> Purple Dulse Seaweed,

> Beet Root,

> Spinach Leaf,

> Orange and

> Lemon Peels,

> Siberian Gingseng

> Dandelion root

> Parsley

>

>

> plus half again as much (1½ parts)

> Spirulina,

> Chlorella

> Barley Grass,

> Wheat Grass,

> Rose Hips

>

> All ingredients need to be reduced to powder form…

>

> 2. Mix these Ingredients together .

> 3. Blend 2 tbls. with approx 8 oz. of Juice and (optional) 8 oz.

of

> distilled water. or add to your favorite smoothie, salad, etc.

> 4. Take on a daily basis.

>

>

>

> --

> Peace be with you, Ann.

>

> Don " Quai " Eitner

>

> " Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in

the animal and wakes in man. "

>

> Nearly all men die of their remedies, and not of their illnesses.

~Baptiste Molière, Le Malade Imaginaire

>

> The obstacle is the path. ~Zen Proverb

>

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Brad and Ann wrote:

> Don and Suzi,

> Duh-It never dawned on me to check the files for a recipe. I should

> have known that.

> Don, I remember you from another list we were on. I have a 14 yr old

> with low functioning autism. His diet was great until about a year

> ago, when he practally stopped eating just about all raw vegetables.

> I can still get him to drink anything(almost anything), so fresh

> juices, Perfect food, Super tonic and things like that I can still

> get down him. I made some saurkraut this week but he wouldn't take

> the juice, I threw some of the kraut in the juicer and got that down

> him. I ordered some culture starter for vegetables(like the body

> ecology diet stuff) and I'm going to try to culture super tonic,

> beets and anything else I can think of to hopefully get

> enzymes,probiotics and gut bug killers down him at the same time.

> Any suggestions are welcome.

> Ann

========================

Hi Ann,

It has been a long time and I do not recall all the particulars. Would

you be so kind and fill me in on how and why your son is autistic?

Vaccination caused, heavy metal caused?

--

Peace be with you, Ann.

Don " Quai " Eitner

" Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal

and wakes in man. "

Nearly all men die of their remedies, and not of their illnesses. ~Jean

Baptiste Molière, Le Malade Imaginaire

The obstacle is the path. ~Zen Proverb

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Rik,

I agree with you. The cost of nutritional items/foods/supplements are so expensive I cannot afford them either. What I do is get real food and it as much of it raw as possible. Juicing is a good way to get concentrated nutrients for less money than buying specialized items. Even purchsing a product with total nutrition is made by more than one company. You can compare ingredients side by side and find very little difference.

I buy a lot of my products from a local place attached to a church. The items there are much cheaper than in traditional health food stores. Otherwise I couldn't afford most of what I get now.

I hardly believe that one company makes the "only" viable product. If a company claims to be the best and only - then I would have very strong objections to them

mary

hello all, i think that buying from good old doc is getting a bit to expensive for me to get the total nutrition ($ 44 retail, 34 clubmembers). are you guys getting this from the healthfood store? we just had an outpost open up here in the neighborhood. i'm going to have to find out where i get these nutritions/herbs in my town, otherwise i can't afford it. hope i'm not sounding too cheap, but i get a weird feeling about prices these days........... thanks, rik

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I make my own now too, ridiculously cheaper! plus i can add or omit (like omitting the yeast and adding Nopal powder)

You can get most of the items on-line Rik. Herbalcom is the least expensive and most of their stuff is wildcrafted.

Mountain Rose has most of the rest of the ingredients that Herbalcom does not and the last and most difficult thing to get is the Purple Dulse which you can get at Pacific Botanicals.

I think i recal that all of the sites are posted int he resources files, if they are not, shout out and i will post them!

SylviaSuzanne <suziesgoats@...> wrote:

Hi Rik... been awhile...

Yes he is high. I make my own... it's a whole lot cheaper in the long run.

SuziRik <bliksemskater@...> wrote:

hello all, i think that buying from good old doc is getting a bit to expensive for me to get the total nutrition ($ 44 retail, 34 clubmembers). are you guys getting this from the healthfood store? we just had an outpost open up here in the neighborhood. i'm going to have to find out where i get these nutritions/herbs in my town, otherwise i can't afford it. hope i'm not sounding too cheap, but i get a weird feeling about prices these days...........

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