Re: Womyn_in_red's Introduction/Thyroid

[Guest guest]

Hi Cheryl and Welcome,

If you check the message archives i have posted regarding Hypo

thyroid among other things several times.

The first message in archive (going backward) that i found is 4540,

there were several responses in that thread so i would recommend

reading as many of them as you can.

My work load is heavy right now, but if you dont get any addiitonal

input from other members, send me an email offline from the board

and i will try to respond based on my own experience.

I dont take Synthroid or any other thyroid med anymore as of this

Jauanry and feel 10X better than when i did.

Do not dispare as healthy eating is not only NOT boring it can

acutally be quite yummy if you are willing to tkae the time to learn

and adjust your perspoective

Luck and love,

Sylvia

>

> Greetings HAWK Members,

>

> My name is Cheryl, I'm 46 years young, but feel MUCH older!

>

> I must mention the fact that I had a Stroke at the age of 5

> years old (Yes, 5 years old!) paralyzing my entire left side.

> Through therapy and several operations to my left ankle I have

> regained all but the dexterity in my left hand & still have a

slight

> limp. The doctors never came up w/ a cause. They did several

Spinal

> Taps (experimental medicine back in 1963) to heal me.

>

> I suffered terrible Menstrual Cycles due to the Fibroid Tumors

> in my left ovary. Unable to have " elective surgery " the doctor

> prescribed 800 MG Motrin for the pain. Little did I know the meds

> caused constipation! I have since quit taking the Motrin, but

still

> suffer from chronic constipation (sometimes going week(s) w/o a

> bowel movement.)

>

> I smoked from age 15 to 40. I drank a quart of Pepsi a day

from

> age 16 till my mid 30's when I switched to Diet Pepsi because the

> Pepsi was putting the weight on. I spent a decade drinking 2

Liters

> a day of the toxic poison from morning till night… no water, no

> milk, nothing but Diet Pepsi.

>

> In an effort to live healthier (and w/ the help of a holistic

> friend) I bought a Juiceman ll Juicer. I must say I never felt

> better, but sadly returned to my high fat diet and 2 Liters of

Diet

> Pepsi.

>

> In 2001 I received Genital Herpes from a lying cheating spouse

> and was put on 20 MG Prozac, due to the depression but later

> discontinued use of them, since I did not like the way they made

me

> feel.

>

> In an effort to supplement the vitamins and minerals I was

> lacking I started taking a multi vitamin, a food based Calcium, 2

> Ultra Omega-3 Fish Oil pills, Garlic Oil, B Complex (for PMS) and

an

> 81 MG Baby Aspirin (to prevent another Stroke.)

>

> Today I am on 50 MCG Levothyroxine for an underactive Thyroid.

I

> ache all over; have numbness in my hands & feet and little to no

> energy, memory loss, brittle nails, an inability to tolerate cold

> temperatures, insomnia, depression and hair loss. Due to the lack

of

> energy and the chronic pain I have been unable to exercise thus

> gaining 30+ pounds in the last year or so.

>

> Last month I did a colon cleansing w/ " Health Plus INC. Super

> Colon Cleanse w/ Herbs & Acidophilus. " I have also added a daily

> glass of Apple Juice in hopes of feeling better to no avail. I go

> back to the doc to have my THS levels checked and to adjust my

> Levothyroxine dose.

>

> Below is my answers to What do you eat?

>

> Do you eat cooked foods? Yes daily

>

> Meat? Yes daily

>

> Refined sugars? Yes daily

>

> Dairy? Yes, occasionally except milk

>

> Animal products? Yes

>

> Refined flours? Yes daily

>

> Lots of carbohydrates? Yes (I crave them)

>

> Processed foods? Yes daily

>

> Cooked grains? Yes occasionally

>

> Nuts? Yes, rarely

>

> Seeds? Yes rarely

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> What do you drink?

>

> Coffee? Not unless it is loaded w/ sugar and flavored milk

>

> Teas? Yes, hot Green Tea, & Arizona Green Tea w/ Gin sing & honey

>

> Milk? Only chocolate milk

>

> Water? ½ a gallon a day (replaced the 2 liters of Diet Pepsi I was

> drinking)

>

> Sodas? Might drink one every 3 to 4 days now

>

> Fresh Juices? I have started juicing apples every morning

>

> Store bought Juices? Occasionally Orange or Tomato juice

>

> I would really appreciate any help you might be able to give

me.

> I did not fight to overcome the paralysis only to become

debilitated

> by this Thyroid disease. :`-(

>

> ~Cheryl~

[Guest guest]

(and Cheryl)

Not to be contradictory but, I would consider getting off the meds

and adopting healthier and nmore natural alternatives to they meds!

I toook thryoid med's for over 3 1/2 years and after talking with

many other friends who had hypo thryoid they all concurred that once

you start taking it, you almost have to stay on it, and periodically

have to have your dosage upped (i went from 25's to 50's then to

75's before i quit and did the master cleanse).

If you still have your thyroid, you can do this. Do some research

talk to other on this board (and the other if you belong to it)

because the natural approach is not only better for your thyroid, it

is better for your entire body! remember your liver has to deal

with the med's you take.

Sylvia

>

> > Today I am on 50 MCG Levothyroxine for an underactive Thyroid.

> > I ache all over; have numbness in my hands & feet and little to

no

> > energy, memory loss, brittle nails, an inability to tolerate cold

> > temperatures, insomnia, depression and hair loss. Due to the lack

> >of energy and the chronic pain I have been unable to exercise

thus

> > gaining 30+ pounds in the last year or so.

>

> Hi Cheryl,

>

> Have you had your thyroid level checked recently? It sounds to me

as if you

> need a higher doseage of medication. Do you take it first thing

in the

> morning before breakfast? I recently started to do this (I

always took it

> with breakfast before) and I found that I need less ....

>

> HTH,

> and the K9's

[Guest guest]

Sorry but i didnt finish my thought here....

> I took thryoid med's for over 3 1/2 years and after talking with

> many other friends who had hypo thryoid they all concurred that

once you start taking it, you almost have to stay on it, and

periodically have to have your dosage upped (i went from 25's to

50's then to 75's before i quit and did the master cleanse)... That

is unless you are willing to commit yourself to alternatives and

Stick to them! I had the same misconceptions and bought into the

same lie that the pharmies and medicos have pushed on us all of our

lives.

[Guest guest]

People with Down Syndrome

suffer from thyroid problems and was no exception. She was put on ½ a

75 mcg of Synthroid last year and between the Specific Carb Diet and an

increase in zinc,  her  thyroid panel is with in normal range, though

her TSH was a tiny bit above 2, so I chose to allow her to naturally grow out

of the dose rather than rock the boat and cut it cold turkey.

It  is possible to change those numbers and sometimes to get off

the meds. Good luck to you!

Carol in IL

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[Guest guest]

Hi Sylvia,

Congrats on getting off thyroid meds :-) I'm sure you are right - for

people who have some thyroid left. Unfortunately, mine self-destructed

over 10 years ago, and I have been on 1 mg of Levythyroxine all that time,

until a couple of months ago, when I actually went down to .75 mg.

Whilst I would agree that getting off thyroid meds would be something that

Cheryl could/should(?) strive for, perhaps it might be better to get her

feeling a bit better than she does now, before chucking the meds entirely

and probably feeling even worse. I'm thinking she should take baby steps,

but maybe I am wrong.....

Cheers,

and the K9's

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>Not to be contradictory but, I would consider getting off the meds

and adopting healthier and nmore natural alternatives to they meds!

>I toook thryoid med's for over 3 1/2 years and after talking with

many other friends who had hypo thryoid they all concurred that once

you start taking it, you almost have to stay on it, and periodically

have to have your dosage upped (i went from 25's to 50's then to

75's before i quit and did the master cleanse).

[Guest guest]

Don posted this which I saved.

Pam

The Total Tonic or Super Tonic with Black Walnut will help. Lot of

natural Iodine in the Black Walnut.. Also Irish Moss, Parsley,

Dandelion

root, and Alfalfa make a good combination mixed with bladderwrack.

Another really good thing for her to do is to go on a total juice

fast

with fresh organic vegetable juices and fruit juices. This will help

cleanse her liver, bowels, kidneys and promote healing throughout her

body. A hot fomentation of 1 part lobelia and 3 parts mullein and

placed

over the thyroid (cover with plastic) six nights a week and take one

day

off and then back on for 6 nights a week and a day off , etc, etc,

etc

for as long as necessary. Hope this helps along with Suzi's ideas.

Peace, love and light,

Don Quai

[Guest guest]

Fluoride:The Thyroid, Alzheimers and CFS

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How toxins affect the thyroid gland

Toxins from the environs may alter the thyroid function.

Gaitan from Univ Mississipi found that drinking water

contaminated with petrochemicals results in blocked activity of

thyroid hormones.

( Ref Jounal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism 1983 Vol. 56)

Polychlorinated biphenyls (PCB's) can alter thyroxine levels and

result in symptoms of thyroid disorders (Science, vol.267)

It is now understood that the environment, diet and nutrition

influence thyroid function in a number of ways and may relate to

thyroid disorders of non-specific origin

(Annual Review of Nutrition -1995 Vol 15)

Another line of evidence indicating that fluoride is an

'endocrine disrupter' stems from the number of studies that indicate

the fluoride may inhibit the functioning of the thyroid gland.

s Schuld, president of a group called

Parents of Fluoride Poisoned Children,

has prepared an excellent summary of the evidence

that points in this direction

To put the matter as simply as I can, his group has been able to

show that areas of " endemic fluorosis "

are also areas designated as being endemic with iodine deficiency

disorders (IDD).

Thyroid hormones are absolutely essential for normal growth and

development.

Hyperthyroidism means that the thyroid gland is producing too much

of the thyroid hormones, T3 and T4. These two hormones have 3 and 4

iodine atoms respectively.

Schuld's group has also shown that there is a remarkable similarity

between the symptoms listed for hypothyroidism

(underactive thyroid gland) and those reported for fluoride

poisoning.

Putting these two conditions together, it appears that fluoride

decreases the production of thyroid hormones.

For a normal person if you are exposed to too much fluoride it could

result in reducing thyroid hormone production below normal and

necessary levels (i.e., hypothyroidism). It is not

clear just how fluoride reducesthyroid hormone production.

The theory is that since Flouride, fluorine, and chlorine are

" identical " to the

molecular structure of iodine, the thyroid detects it as such.

Alternatively, fluoride inhibits the " enzymes " inside the gland

which assemble the hormones from its chemical precursor, the amino

acid 'tyrosine'.

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Pam

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I have only been taking the meds since August 30th, I felt better the 1st two weeks, but soon felt no better then the day I walked into the doctor’s office. I am going to have my TSH lab work drawn on Monday. I have read on other groups that it would be best if he tested for Free T 3 & Free T 4, but those are not included! I go back to see the doctor for a follow up the 25th.

I do take my meds 1st thing in the morning. That was on the Patient Prescription Info sheet, along w/ many other warnings & precautions.

My great aunt (favorite) had her thyroid removed back in the 50s or 60s and lived a long, productive, energetic life. She had the energy to care for my great great grandmother who was in a wheel chair from Diabetes AND my uncle (a coal miner) who was dying from lung disease. Unfortunately she later died of ovarian cancer.

~Cheryl~

[Guest guest]

Cheryl wrote:

> Sue,

>

> Oh yes, Suzi, I’m reading this and saving the replies in a Word doc.

> (Since my memory fails me alot lately.) Lots of information to digest.

> I was just wondering where to start, but you’ve already answered that

> question for me. Start w/ my _poor_ diet!!!! I have been making

> changes, just not enough yet.

>

> I bought a Sunbeam water cooler that dispenses cold, hot and room temp

> water a few months ago and have worked up to drinking a ½ gallon of

> water a day, instead of all the soda.. I WILL begin adding lemon to

> the water as soon as I get some.

>

> I know this won’t be easy….but then again I didn’t get here overnight

> it won’t be a quick fix , but that’s OK, I have overcome many

> difficulties in my life, Hypothyroidism is just the next to overcome!

> As w/ anything knowledge is power and I am on a quest to find the

> answers to alternative ways to treat my condition. I hope to one day

> decrease my dosage of meds as my body becomes cleaner & healthier .

> Time will tell.

>

> I am really new to all this and will be back w/ lots of questions!

>

> ~Cheryl~

>

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Hi again Cheryl,

Start using kelp, dulce or any sea weed. There are all very high in

organic minerals and iodine. Also I believe that Pam reposted one of my

earlier posts that mentioned using lobelia and mullein fomentations over

your thyroid. This will help it tremendously.

Baby steps, gotta start with baby steps and then before you are really

aware of it you are in much better health and you will, hopefully,

continue on to excellent health free from the allopathic medicinals and

doctors. You are your own best doctor afterall.

--

Peace, love and light,

Don Quai

" Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal

and wakes in man. "