MB12 shots - any side effects?

[Guest guest]

A child I used to work with regressed terribly and became violent after

three MB12 shots. It took about six months to get her back to the point

where she was before the shots. Her B-12 levels had always been very low and

she did seem to do well on the B-12 cream that the doctor prescribed but

either the shots were way too high a dose for her little body or there was

something in them that messed with her system.

The recent studies that seem to indicate that some people with chronic

fatigue syndrome or autism with immune system problems have a genetic mutation

that makes it difficult to process methyl forms of B-12 have made me

wonder if that was the issue with this child.

Gaylen

[Guest guest]

Is it mutation of methylation cycle? Does it have to do anything with the MTHFR?

Can you please write more about it? I've been reading the " Whole in the Bucket " ,

but still have trouble to understand...

Thank you very much in advance,

________________________________

From: " Googahly@... " <Googahly@...>

Sent: Thu, August 5, 2010 9:01:58 PM

Subject: Re: Re: MB12 shots - any side effects?

 

The recent studies that seem to indicate that some people with chronic

fatigue syndrome or autism with immune system problems have a genetic mutation

that makes it difficult to process methyl forms of B-12 have made me

wonder if that was the issue with this child.

Gaylen

[Guest guest]

hi Gaylen

Also the injections are far more concerntrated than cream, spray, or the

lollipops. myself aspie, and cfs and my son asd use the neob12, which is hydroxy

not methyl, with resounding results, ok for me was very rough and became

hyperactive, but after 18 months of gradually increasing the dosage i am on 1 lm

morning and night, and believe me i can tell if i miss the injection, great

stuff. with my son we started off with the readisorb spray and worked ok, then

went on to the hydroxy neob12 (chemist over the counter) with half ml and had

fantastic results, we in creased to a full vile with more improvement, but then

he went on to the compounded hydroxy b12 concentrate with outstanding results,

has virtually no anxiety issues now and those uncontrolled panic attacks. alot

of his sensory issues have just about gone aswell.

look hydroxy and methyl are both forms of b12, i think that from memory the

methyl is further down the production chain, as in more manufactured or

distilled so it the more potent of the two. hence the reason we are on hydroxy,

also the mb12 we get here in oz is not of good quality so my dr says, and the

hydroxy he uses is better than them, but he has told we can source the mb12 from

the states, which is far better, but he doubts that at this stage we would be

able to handle it.

From: Googahly@...

Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 15:01:58 -0400

Subject: Re: Re: MB12 shots - any side effects?

A child I used to work with regressed terribly and became violent after

three MB12 shots. It took about six months to get her back to the point

where she was before the shots. Her B-12 levels had always been very low and

she did seem to do well on the B-12 cream that the doctor prescribed but

either the shots were way too high a dose for her little body or there was

something in them that messed with her system.

The recent studies that seem to indicate that some people with chronic

fatigue syndrome or autism with immune system problems have a genetic mutation

that makes it difficult to process methyl forms of B-12 have made me

wonder if that was the issue with this child.

Gaylen

[Guest guest]

Hello,

We are doing MB12 shots for two months and I have some questions.

My son is very thin, there is no fat on his body. I make a shot under skin, but

his morning urine is still pinky. - Does it mean that the body doesn't receive

it? In this case, is it better to switch to another form of MB12? I heard that

there is a spray that contains 4500mcg per dose. I would even stick with oral

form, no shots.

 

________________________________

From: Mel J <mel.j@...>

nids

Sent: Fri, August 6, 2010 12:07:32 AM

Subject: RE: Re: MB12 shots - any side effects?

hi Gaylen

Also the injections are far more concerntrated than cream, spray, or the

lollipops. myself aspie, and cfs and my son asd use the neob12, which is hydroxy

not methyl, with resounding results, ok for me was very rough and became

hyperactive, but after 18 months of gradually increasing the dosage i am on 1 lm

morning and night, and believe me i can tell if i miss the injection, great

stuff. with my son we started off with the readisorb spray and worked ok, then

went on to the hydroxy neob12 (chemist over the counter) with half ml and had

fantastic results, we in creased to a full vile with more improvement, but then

he went on to the compounded hydroxy b12 concentrate with outstanding results,

has virtually no anxiety issues now and those uncontrolled panic attacks. alot

of his sensory issues have just about gone aswell.

look hydroxy and methyl are both forms of b12, i think that from memory the

methyl is further down the production chain, as in more manufactured or

distilled so it the more potent of the two. hence the reason we are on hydroxy,

also the mb12 we get here in oz is not of good quality so my dr says, and the

hydroxy he uses is better than them, but he has told we can source the mb12 from

the states, which is far better, but he doubts that at this stage we would be

able to handle it.

From: Googahly@...

Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 15:01:58 -0400

Subject: Re: Re: MB12  shots - any side effects?

 

   

     

     

      A child I used to work with regressed terribly and became violent after 

three MB12 shots.  It took about six months to get her back to the point 

where she was before the shots.  Her B-12 levels had always been very low  and

she did seem to do well on the B-12 cream that the doctor prescribed but 

either the shots were way too high a dose for her little body or there was 

something in them that messed with her system. 

The recent studies that seem to indicate that some people with chronic 

fatigue syndrome or autism with immune system problems have a genetic  mutation

that makes it difficult to process methyl forms of B-12 have made me 

wonder if that was the issue with this child. 

Gaylen

[Guest guest]

The B12 makes the urine a little pink. It's no big deal.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 6, 2010, at 1:51 AM, " A. " <a.anna76@...> wrote:

Hello,

We are doing MB12 shots for two months and I have some questions.

My son is very thin, there is no fat on his body. I make a shot under skin, but

his morning urine is still pinky. - Does it mean that the body doesn't receive

it? In this case, is it better to switch to another form of MB12? I heard that

there is a spray that contains 4500mcg per dose. I would even stick with oral

form, no shots.

________________________________

From: Mel J <mel.j@...>

nids

Sent: Fri, August 6, 2010 12:07:32 AM

Subject: RE: Re: MB12 shots - any side effects?

hi Gaylen

Also the injections are far more concerntrated than cream, spray, or the

lollipops. myself aspie, and cfs and my son asd use the neob12, which is hydroxy

not methyl, with resounding results, ok for me was very rough and became

hyperactive, but after 18 months of gradually increasing the dosage i am on 1 lm

morning and night, and believe me i can tell if i miss the injection, great

stuff. with my son we started off with the readisorb spray and worked ok, then

went on to the hydroxy neob12 (chemist over the counter) with half ml and had

fantastic results, we in creased to a full vile with more improvement, but then

he went on to the compounded hydroxy b12 concentrate with outstanding results,

has virtually no anxiety issues now and those uncontrolled panic attacks. alot

of his sensory issues have just about gone aswell.

look hydroxy and methyl are both forms of b12, i think that from memory the

methyl is further down the production chain, as in more manufactured or

distilled so it the more potent of the two. hence the reason we are on hydroxy,

also the mb12 we get here in oz is not of good quality so my dr says, and the

hydroxy he uses is better than them, but he has told we can source the mb12 from

the states, which is far better, but he doubts that at this stage we would be

able to handle it.

From: Googahly@...

Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 15:01:58 -0400

Subject: Re: Re: MB12 shots - any side effects?

A child I used to work with regressed terribly and became violent after

three MB12 shots. It took about six months to get her back to the point

where she was before the shots. Her B-12 levels had always been very low and

she did seem to do well on the B-12 cream that the doctor prescribed but

either the shots were way too high a dose for her little body or there was

something in them that messed with her system.

The recent studies that seem to indicate that some people with chronic

fatigue syndrome or autism with immune system problems have a genetic mutation

that makes it difficult to process methyl forms of B-12 have made me

wonder if that was the issue with this child.

Gaylen

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Sheryl!

________________________________

From: Sheryl <ssaturnino@...>

" " < >

Sent: Mon, August 9, 2010 6:27:43 AM

Subject: Re: Re: MB12 shots - any side effects?

 

The B12 makes the urine a little pink. It's no big deal.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 6, 2010, at 1:51 AM, " A. " <a.anna76@...> wrote:

Hello,

We are doing MB12 shots for two months and I have some questions.

My son is very thin, there is no fat on his body. I make a shot under skin, but

his morning urine is still pinky. - Does it mean that the body doesn't receive

it? In this case, is it better to switch to another form of MB12? I heard that

there is a spray that contains 4500mcg per dose. I would even stick with oral

form, no shots.

________________________________

From: Mel J <mel.j@...>

nids

Sent: Fri, August 6, 2010 12:07:32 AM

Subject: RE: Re: MB12 shots - any side effects?

hi Gaylen

Also the injections are far more concerntrated than cream, spray, or the

lollipops. myself aspie, and cfs and my son asd use the neob12, which is hydroxy

not methyl, with resounding results, ok for me was very rough and became

hyperactive, but after 18 months of gradually increasing the dosage i am on 1 lm

morning and night, and believe me i can tell if i miss the injection, great

stuff. with my son we started off with the readisorb spray and worked ok, then

went on to the hydroxy neob12 (chemist over the counter) with half ml and had

fantastic results, we in creased to a full vile with more improvement, but then

he went on to the compounded hydroxy b12 concentrate with outstanding results,

has virtually no anxiety issues now and those uncontrolled panic attacks. alot

of his sensory issues have just about gone aswell.

look hydroxy and methyl are both forms of b12, i think that from memory the

methyl is further down the production chain, as in more manufactured or

distilled so it the more potent of the two. hence the reason we are on hydroxy,

also the mb12 we get here in oz is not of good quality so my dr says, and the

hydroxy he uses is better than them, but he has told we can source the mb12 from

the states, which is far better, but he doubts that at this stage we would be

able to handle it.

From: Googahly@...

Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 15:01:58 -0400

Subject: Re: Re: MB12 shots - any side effects?

A child I used to work with regressed terribly and became violent after

three MB12 shots. It took about six months to get her back to the point

where she was before the shots. Her B-12 levels had always been very low and

she did seem to do well on the B-12 cream that the doctor prescribed but

either the shots were way too high a dose for her little body or there was

something in them that messed with her system.

The recent studies that seem to indicate that some people with chronic

fatigue syndrome or autism with immune system problems have a genetic mutation

that makes it difficult to process methyl forms of B-12 have made me

wonder if that was the issue with this child.

Gaylen

[Guest guest]

Pink urine with MB12 shots mean that the injection went too deep. It

means that it didn't get into the shallow fatty layer as it's suppose

to. It won't hurt your child, but it does mean that it won't get

well-absorbed and do what it's suppose to be doing.

I would recommend that you google " Dr. Neubrander, MB-12 " . He is the

doc who first came up with the MB12 protocol and has some tutorial

videos on his website on how to give the shot correctly.

Good luck to you. MB-12 shots, if given correctly, are often a huge

help to ASD families.

Take Care,

Janelle

Re: Re: MB12 shots - any side effects?

A child I used to work with regressed terribly and became violent

after

three MB12 shots. It took about six months to get her back to the point

where she was before the shots. Her B-12 levels had always been very

low and

she did seem to do well on the B-12 cream that the doctor prescribed but

either the shots were way too high a dose for her little body or there

was

something in them that messed with her system.

The recent studies that seem to indicate that some people with chronic

fatigue syndrome or autism with immune system problems have a genetic

mutation

that makes it difficult to process methyl forms of B-12 have made me

wonder if that was the issue with this child.

Gaylen

[Guest guest]

By the way, shots are by far, the best form of MB-12. If you want to

really see a benefit you should stick with shots, just work on your

procedure. Orally, and even nasally are just not absorbed as well and

are not nearly as effective.

Janelle

Re: Re: MB12 shots - any side effects?

A child I used to work with regressed terribly and became violent

after

three MB12 shots. It took about six months to get her back to the point

where she was before the shots. Her B-12 levels had always been very

low and

she did seem to do well on the B-12 cream that the doctor prescribed but

either the shots were way too high a dose for her little body or there

was

something in them that messed with her system.

The recent studies that seem to indicate that some people with chronic

fatigue syndrome or autism with immune system problems have a genetic

mutation

that makes it difficult to process methyl forms of B-12 have made me

wonder if that was the issue with this child.

Gaylen

[Guest guest]

Just a comment, is ok if the liquid forms a blisterlike on the skin, that means

is subcutaneal, which is what you want. it will get absorb.

SM

________________________________

From: J & J Hall <tallcedars@...>

Sent: Wed, August 11, 2010 1:07:52 PM

Subject: RE: Re: MB12 shots - any side effects?

Pink urine with MB12 shots mean that the injection went too deep. It

means that it didn't get into the shallow fatty layer as it's suppose

to. It won't hurt your child, but it does mean that it won't get

well-absorbed and do what it's suppose to be doing.

I would recommend that you google " Dr. Neubrander, MB-12 " . He is the

doc who first came up with the MB12 protocol and has some tutorial

videos on his website on how to give the shot correctly.

Good luck to you. MB-12 shots, if given correctly, are often a huge

help to ASD families.

Take Care,

Janelle

Re: Re: MB12 shots - any side effects?

A child I used to work with regressed terribly and became violent

after

three MB12 shots. It took about six months to get her back to the point

where she was before the shots. Her B-12 levels had always been very

low and

she did seem to do well on the B-12 cream that the doctor prescribed but

either the shots were way too high a dose for her little body or there

was

something in them that messed with her system.

The recent studies that seem to indicate that some people with chronic

fatigue syndrome or autism with immune system problems have a genetic

mutation

that makes it difficult to process methyl forms of B-12 have made me

wonder if that was the issue with this child.

Gaylen