Guest guest Posted September 11, 2004 Report Share Posted September 11, 2004 In a message dated 9/11/04 9:27:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, oldglory@... writes: Why not just use baking soda and salt? No glycerin there. A man in our neighboring town uses this and there isn't a prettier smile anywhere. That would be fine too. The salt can be a little abrasive if used continuously. I like the soap because it keeps the plaque from hardening. Plus I like the foaming;-). Makes me feel like I'm really cleaning my teeth. My dentist said he believes plain old water would be effective if someone wanted to go that route. Gloria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2004 Report Share Posted September 12, 2004 Hi, Why not just use baking soda and salt? No glycerin there. A man in our neighboring town uses this and there isn't a prettier smile anywhere. Baugh ************** A good solution for clean teeth, which I have used for 5 years, is bar soap. I always brush my teeth with soap. I use either an all natural bar soap or Dr. Bronner's liquid peppermint soap. The key is to never use anything (soap or toothpaste) that has glycerin in it. Glycerin adheres to the teeth and prevents re-enamalization. Plaque also sticks to glycerin. It takes 22 rinses to get glycerin based toothpaste off your teeth and only 2 rinses to get non-glycerin soap off. Soap also keeps plaque soft so that it comes off easily. Can't remember the last time I used any kind of toothpaste (natural or other) for brushing. Check the labels...I know someone who pays $20 for a tube of all natural organic toothpaste and it still has glycerin in it. I keep away from that stuff!!! Gloria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2004 Report Share Posted September 12, 2004 I read that whole thing with great interest, since teeth--and much of what Dr. Judd points out, such as why they're so troublesome for just about everyone I know--have been very much on my mind lately. But I have to wonder, are these claims really believable? Flouride causes tooth decay, but sugar and bacteria do not? I'm no chemist, and I feel pretty lost as to who to believe, especially where it concerns my 2-year-old. Can you or anybody offer testimonials or pointers to more evidence? It would be much appreciated! --ST Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2004 Report Share Posted September 12, 2004 MorningGlory113@... wrote: > >> A good solution for clean teeth, which I have >> used for 5 years, is bar soap. >> >> I always brush my teeth with soap. I use either an all natural bar >> soap or Dr. Bronner's liquid peppermint soap. The key is to never use >> anything (soap or toothpaste) that has glycerin in it. Glycerin >> adheres to the teeth and prevents re-enamalization. Plaque also >> sticks to glycerin. It takes 22 rinses to get glycerin based >> toothpaste off your teeth and only 2 rinses to get non-glycerin soap >> off. Soap also keeps plaque soft so that it comes off easily. Can't >> remember the last time I used any kind of toothpaste (natural or >> other) for brushing. Check the labels...I know someone who pays $20 >> for a tube of all natural organic toothpaste and it still has >> glycerin in it. I keep away from that stuff!!! >> >> Gloria > ================================= Interesting tidbits we find out as we grow through life. The concept of bacteria causing cavities goes back to Louis Pasteur and his germ theory. It has been continually perpetuated by the pharmaceutical companies, the AMA, ADA and all the rest of mainstream medicine today. Bacteria by themselves do not cause cavities. Acids do cause cavities and the bacteria are only opportunistic. If the acid can get through the enamel then the bacteria can proliferate inside the tooth and they will cause their own toxins resuling in all sorts of oral problems. Now the trick here is to use a soap that has had the glycerin removed. This usually means a store bought variety. I think this needs a little more looking into, I do like the concept but am a little uncertain about eating soap again. Maybe I will just stick to the baking soda and salt routine. Works wonders for me along with a good peroxide rinse. -- Peace, love and light, Don Quai " Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal and wakes in man. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2004 Report Share Posted September 12, 2004 Suzanne wrote: > I've seen reports about fluoride being bad... do a web search.... > about the sugar and bacteria...can't answer that for sure...if he's > talking about fruit sugars then I agree... if he is talking about > sugar in chocolates, etc.. then I don't... and Don is alseep now so > we can't ask him to explain.. lol. > ======================================= Fluoride is an extremely potent toxin. At least the kind they put into your drinking water, toothpaste and mouthwash. Fluoride that you get naturally from plants is very beneficial and much needed by the human body in very small amounts. NOBODY NEEDS THE FLUORIDE THAT IS SUPPLIED BY YOUR DENTIST, TOOTHPASTE MANUFACTURER, MOUTHWASH MANUFACTURER AND THE WATER DEPARTMENT. This stuff is extremely poisonous and will kill you. I am not so certain that I even buy into the concept of sugar creating cavities but it may contribute to it significantly. I believe that the problem with all refined or cooked sugars (though not from eating raw fruits, raw sugar cane, raw sugar beets, raw honey or any raw food contining its own natural sugar) is the fact that these sugars inactivate the saliva. What do I mean by this? The saliva carries the enzymes necessary for the predigestion of carbohydrates, namely salivary amylase. It also carries along with it lots of sodium, potassium, chlorine, bicarbonate, phosphate, urea, uric acid, immunoglobulin A, mucus and the bacteriolytic enzyme lysozyme that are used to help keep the teeth in good shape, keep the mouth alkaline and keep bacteria from overgrowth in an acidic mouth by helping to buffer the various acids from eating raw foods. This problem of acids damaging tooth enamel and creating cavities is not experienced by people eating raw fruits and raw foods containing their own natural unprocessed sugars. This, I believe is the damage caused by refined sugars or sugars that have been changed due to cooking or other forms of processing. Inactivate the saliva and any acid can attack the enamel of the teeth including fruit acids. Fruit sugar does not do this when you eat the fruit and the bicarb in your saliva can easily buffer the fruit acid so it won't affect the enamel. Eating a tablespoonful of processed fructose, however, might do this. However, the damage does come from the acids. To the best of my knowledge and I do plan on digging into this much deeper, sugar does not turn into acids. Nothing can grow in refined sugar anyway. This is proven. So in essence, no I do not believe in the germ theory nor do I believe that raw sugars are directly responsible for damage to the teeth. I do believe that they (refined, processed or cooked sugars) contribute by inactivating the saliva leaving the mouth open to the effects of unbuffered acids. My two cents worth. Everyone has to believe what they will. I only suggest it that each and everyone do their own research and find the truth for themselves. That is the only way you will ever be able to truly believe anything anyway. -- Peace, love and light, Don Quai " Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal and wakes in man. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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