Re: Drug Approved. Is Disease Real? New York Times front page article 1/14/08

January 15, 2008

The problem with a blanket statement like that, is there are people who

suffer from Fibro and need help. They do need something to help

them. Is this the right drug, I don't know. Can it make it worse for

those that are hypo, sure it can. What's the trade off when you

suffer? What about the other 89% who didn't see weight gain? I'm sure

they got plenty of letters about if the disease is real or not. I know

some people on the RA list sent letters about that issue, because the

disease is real. Everyone who has Fibro is not Hypo. It is a real disease!

Kate G

Hashi's

AS

At 03:26 PM 1/15/2008, you wrote:

>I wrote a letter to the New York Times editor on this one. Doubt they

>will ever publish it.

>

>Pfizer will make millions or billions on a drug that treats a symptom

>and which increases the hypo condition/symptoms, IMHO!!

>

>I just want to scream, scream, scream.

>

>http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/14/health/14pain.html?

>_r=1 & scp=1 & sq=Drug+approved.+Is+disease+real%3F & oref=slogin

>

> " In many patients, Lyrica causes weight gain and edema, or swelling,

>as well as dizziness and sleepiness. In 12-week trials, 9 percent of

>patients saw their weight rise more than 7 percent, and the weight

>gain appeared to continue over time. The potential for weight gain is

>a special concern because many fibromyalgia patients are already

>overweight: the average fibromyalgia patient in the 2007 survey

>reported weighing 180 pounds and standing 5 feet 4 inches. "

>

>I'm 5-4-1/2 and I was 181 pounds before my last severe bout

>through 2004 that sent me to Dr. .

>

>Or how about this one:

>

> " Dr. Amy Chappell, a medical fellow at Lilly, said that even though

>Cymbalta is an antidepressant, its effects on fibromyalgia pain are

>independent of its antidepressant effects. In clinical trials, she

>said, even fibromyalgia patients who are not depressed report relief

>from their pain on Cymbalta.

>

>The overall efficacy of Cymbalta and milnacipran is similar to that

>of Lyrica. Analysts and the companies expect that the drugs will

>probably be used together.

>

>'There's definitely room for several drugs,' Dr. Chappell said. "

>

>Slice it, dice it, never treat the root cause. Make billions upon

>billions. And go to war on Armour Thyroid and compounded meds. That's

>the ticket!

>

>Sara

>

January 15, 2008

http://www.patientsville.com/medication/lyrica_side_effects.htm

Did I mention that I have no confidence in BigPharm? Or the FDA?

My doc says that when a new drug comes on the market, he waits and lets other docs experiment on their patients for five years. If it does not kill too many of them, then he may try it on some of his patients.

Most, if not all, fibromyalgia is untreated/undertreated hypothyroidism/thyroid hormone resistance.

Failure to adequately treat thyroid disorders creates new disorders. Then BigPharm creates a matching expensive-toxic-waste drug which will resolve the symptoms of some, but hasten the demise of a certain percentage of such patients.

Population reduction is a New World Order agenda item. Targeted populations in this country would include the elderly, the handicapped, the obese. . . . .the upwardly mobile middle class. . . . .Did I mention the OBESE?

Did I remind you not to get me started?

>> I wrote a letter to the New York Times editor on this one. Doubt they > will ever publish it.> > Pfizer will make millions or billions on a drug that treats a symptom > and which increases the hypo condition/symptoms, IMHO!!> > I just want to scream, scream, scream.> > http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/14/health/14pain.html?> _r=1 & scp=1 & sq=Drug+approved.+Is+disease+real%3F & oref=slogin> > "In many patients, Lyrica causes weight gain and edema, or swelling, > as well as dizziness and sleepiness. In 12-week trials, 9 percent of > patients saw their weight rise more than 7 percent, and the weight > gain appeared to continue over time. The potential for weight gain is > a special concern because many fibromyalgia patients are already > overweight: the average fibromyalgia patient in the 2007 survey > reported weighing 180 pounds and standing 5 feet 4 inches."> > I'm 5-4-1/2 and I was 181 pounds before my last severe bout > through 2004 that sent me to Dr. .> > Or how about this one:> > "Dr. Amy Chappell, a medical fellow at Lilly, said that even though > Cymbalta is an antidepressant, its effects on fibromyalgia pain are > independent of its antidepressant effects. In clinical trials, she > said, even fibromyalgia patients who are not depressed report relief > from their pain on Cymbalta. > > The overall efficacy of Cymbalta and milnacipran is similar to that > of Lyrica. Analysts and the companies expect that the drugs will > probably be used together.> > 'There's definitely room for several drugs,' Dr. Chappell said."> > Slice it, dice it, never treat the root cause. Make billions upon > billions. And go to war on Armour Thyroid and compounded meds. That's > the ticket!> > Sara>

January 16, 2008

Fibromyalgia definitely is real, and they are finding that it is genetic... so

many of the symptoms are the same as being hypothyroid, but that does not mean

that a person is hypothyroid. IMHO

Re: " Drug Approved. Is Disease Real? " New York

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