Guest guest Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 Hi all, I have a friend who is having an extremely frustrating time with her son's refusing to eat and I told her I would post to see if any of you had any ideas for her. He is a new patient of Dr. G's... they hope to join the list soon. Caroline Here's her situation... " We are having terrible eating issues with our son, Bobby, who eats next to nothing! Prior to the dairy free/whole grain...diet, he was eating cheerios for breakfast, yogurt for lunch and pizza for dinner...now he eats the same thing except cheerios are now corn flakes and everything dairy has been replaced with soy. Our issue is, besides his health issues, he also has an abundance of oral motor issues and won't even try new things. We put them on his plate and he throws them on the floor or will take them in his mouth for a second and then spits them out, often without chewing. . . For the last week we have tried what was suggested by Dr. Goldberg; this is your breakfast/lunch/dinner and that's it. So far, it doesn't seem to bother him, although he is 'grumpier' at times. But, as far as eating is going, it is not improving at all. And for the last two days, he wouldn't even eat his breakfast which was the only meal we were having! 'success' with, and even the pizza lately has been hit or miss. I was wondering if anyone else has had this with any of their children and could offer suggestions, we're willing to try ANYTHING! Thanks for any and all help. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 Hi- You may look for cheese made w/rice milk for the pizza, and try to find a rice milk not made from brown rice (I think someone found one) for the cereal. It tastes so much better than soy, which has an aftertaste. Also, use much less cheese if soy cheese is all you have. BTW-I think even rice dream would be better than nothing right now if only a little on the cereal is being eaten. Does he eat white bread? How about instant oatmeal? Grits? (Mine have always liked grits a lot.) My son and I prefer cereal dry. I mixed reduced-sugar frosted flakes into the corn flakes to get them to eat them, but would threaten them short of their lives if they just picked out the sugary ones. " Eat 4 corn flakes, you can have 1 frosted flake. " But then, I'm evil. To follow Dr Goldberg's rules in the beginning, I'd put all the foods he can eat on the plate (enough to mostly fill him) at first. I'd put other things out too - salami or chicken nuggetts (buy chicken nuggets in the loose frozen bags) to let him get used to the smell - maybe after a few weeks of smelling it, he'll begin to taste it. I'd put a slice of lunchmeat down at every meal (honey turkey, chicken, honey ham), but DRY OFF the slices w/a papertowel. I forgot that at first. Or try it wrapped in the smallest size tortilla. Just offer them, get him used to seeing and smelling it. Like allow a month where you don't worry one bit that he didn't eat it. In my serious eating-problem years of my own, the smell of foods I didn't know or didn't like made me nauseas. My son is super sensitive to smell, and he will eat ONLY COLD hamburger patties w/ketchup right now (well maybe a really good roast w/gravy or a great steak on a good week) - because the cold meat doesn't smell strong and doesn't taste strong. So ... try cold meats ... chicken is great cold. For the time being, I would shirk all stress over it and give him what he'll eat (minus the dairy and whole grains and too much carb and sugar). Corn flakes are unfortunately carby, but still - my child has had times where he ate little more than Cheerios all day long for a couple of weeks there (before cheerios changed their recipe and got kicked off the ok list). That's easy for me to say, but not to do. I have severe food-related anxiety as it is. But I have had to accept the food limitations for now and still offer the opportunity for new things. Every time I declare war because I get freaked out over what he is or isn't eating, my son is quite willing to take me on and show me how powerless I truly am over what he eats. lol I never had a more humbling lesson in submission than I have over food (except to doctors). Just tell your friend ... it is critical to not let this get to you and super-stress over it. Do the best you can. The longer the child is on the protocol, the easier this is going to get. When my child was firmly established on his meds - I guess a year into it - his diet was so awesome (compared to before and after, not compared to his brother who is a great eater until he gets sick). His NT brother is a great eater (when he is well, and that is key), sees something interesting and asks to try it!! (Maybe God thought I was losing my freaking mind trying to feed my oldest and decided to throw me a bone with that one - so don't hate me.) Sometimes I wish Dr G would put our kids on meds first and THEN start the diet. I swear... antifungals and SSRIs make a world of difference in my childrens' willingness to eat. Anyway, the most important suggestion that I can make is to SOMEHOW release the incredible stress by whatever tools you have - giving it up to God, convincing yourself that a vitamin is enough nutrition for one day, whatever it takes. If you freak out like I did (do) and allow yourself to worry about how limited the diet is, the problem seems to grow. The anxiety and pressure is picked up by the child (and my son is more than willing to take me on and go to war). I made more progress, had more insights/ideas/epiphanies when I decided if he ate dry cereal all day long I was just going to let him (this was when I finally DID lose my mind and decided not to shive a git anymore) ... well that's when the little monster decided to eat. 'Cause he got tired of dry cereal real quick. LOL! I hear an occupational therapist could be of help for sensory dysfunction (I never found one). So can swinging and trampoline. Yup - that stuff can help with diet. But mainly, soy is nasty, rice milk is better, and time and meds are going to help most of all. Good luck!! --- Glover <sfglover@...> wrote: > Hi all, > > I have a friend who is having an extremely > frustrating time with her son's refusing to eat and > I told her I would post to see if any of you had any > ideas for her. He is a new patient of Dr. G's... > they hope to join the list soon. > > Caroline > > > Here's her situation... > > " We are having terrible eating issues with our son, > Bobby, who eats next to nothing! Prior to the dairy > free/whole grain...diet, he was eating cheerios for > breakfast, yogurt for lunch and pizza for > dinner...now he eats the same thing except cheerios > are now corn flakes and everything dairy has been > replaced with soy. Our issue is, besides his health > issues, he also has an abundance of oral motor > issues and won't even try new things. We put them > on his plate and he throws them on the floor or will > take them in his mouth for a second and then spits > them out, often without chewing. . . For the last > week we have tried what was suggested by Dr. > Goldberg; this is your breakfast/lunch/dinner and > that's it. So far, it doesn't seem to bother him, > although he is 'grumpier' at times. But, as far as > eating is going, it is not improving at all. And > for the last two days, he wouldn't even eat his > breakfast which was the only meal we were having! > 'success' with, and even the pizza lately has been > hit or miss. > I was wondering if anyone else has had this with any > of their children and could offer suggestions, we're > willing to try ANYTHING! Thanks for any and all > help. " > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?category=shopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 You can also get goats milk mozarella which works very well. Also, I would try to limit the soy products. They really don't taste all that great and could be part of why he is limiting even further. I like Darifree for milk replacements, goats milk yogurt and cheeses. Cheryl On Jan 3, 2008, at 1:05 PM, wrote: > Hi- > > You may look for cheese made w/rice milk for the > pizza, and try to find a rice milk not made from brown > rice (I think someone found one) for the cereal. It > tastes so much better than soy, which has an > aftertaste. Also, use much less cheese if soy cheese > is all you have. BTW-I think even rice dream would be > better than nothing right now if only a little on the > cereal is being eaten. > > Does he eat white bread? How about instant oatmeal? > Grits? (Mine have always liked grits a lot.) My son > and I prefer cereal dry. I mixed reduced-sugar > frosted flakes into the corn flakes to get them to eat > them, but would threaten them short of their lives if > they just picked out the sugary ones. " Eat 4 corn > flakes, you can have 1 frosted flake. " But then, > I'm evil. > > To follow Dr Goldberg's rules in the beginning, I'd > put all the foods he can eat on the plate (enough to > mostly fill him) at first. I'd put other things out > too - salami or chicken nuggetts (buy chicken nuggets > in the loose frozen bags) to let him get used to the > smell - maybe after a few weeks of smelling it, he'll > begin to taste it. I'd put a slice of lunchmeat down > at every meal (honey turkey, chicken, honey ham), but > DRY OFF the slices w/a papertowel. I forgot that at > first. Or try it wrapped in the smallest size > tortilla. Just offer them, get him used to seeing and > smelling it. Like allow a month where you don't worry > one bit that he didn't eat it. In my serious > eating-problem years of my own, the smell of foods I > didn't know or didn't like made me nauseas. My son is > super sensitive to smell, and he will eat ONLY COLD > hamburger patties w/ketchup right now (well maybe a > really good roast w/gravy or a great steak on a good > week) - because the cold meat doesn't smell strong and > doesn't taste strong. So ... try cold meats ... > chicken is great cold. > > For the time being, I would shirk all stress over it > and give him what he'll eat (minus the dairy and whole > grains and too much carb and sugar). Corn flakes are > unfortunately carby, but still - my child has had > times where he ate little more than Cheerios all day > long for a couple of weeks there (before cheerios > changed their recipe and got kicked off the ok list). > > That's easy for me to say, but not to do. I have > severe food-related anxiety as it is. But I have had > to accept the food limitations for now and still offer > the opportunity for new things. Every time I declare > war because I get freaked out over what he is or isn't > eating, my son is quite willing to take me on and show > me how powerless I truly am over what he eats. lol I > never had a more humbling lesson in submission than I > have over food (except to doctors). Just tell your > friend ... it is critical to not let this get to you > and super-stress over it. Do the best you can. > > The longer the child is on the protocol, the easier > this is going to get. When my child was firmly > established on his meds - I guess a year into it - his > diet was so awesome (compared to before and after, not > compared to his brother who is a great eater until he > gets sick). His NT brother is a great eater (when he > is well, and that is key), sees something interesting > and asks to try it!! (Maybe God thought I was losing > my freaking mind trying to feed my oldest and decided > to throw me a bone with that one - so don't hate me.) > > Sometimes I wish Dr G would put our kids on meds first > and THEN start the diet. I swear... antifungals and > SSRIs make a world of difference in my childrens' > willingness to eat. Anyway, the most important > suggestion that I can make is to SOMEHOW release the > incredible stress by whatever tools you have - giving > it up to God, convincing yourself that a vitamin is > enough nutrition for one day, whatever it takes. If > you freak out like I did (do) and allow yourself to > worry about how limited the diet is, the problem seems > to grow. The anxiety and pressure is picked up by the > child (and my son is more than willing to take me on > and go to war). I made more progress, had more > insights/ideas/epiphanies when I decided if he ate dry > cereal all day long I was just going to let him (this > was when I finally DID lose my mind and decided not to > shive a git anymore) ... well that's when the little > monster decided to eat. 'Cause he got tired of dry > cereal real quick. LOL! > > I hear an occupational therapist could be of help for > sensory dysfunction (I never found one). So can > swinging and trampoline. Yup - that stuff can help > with diet. But mainly, soy is nasty, rice milk is > better, and time and meds are going to help most of > all. > > Good luck!! > > > --- Glover <sfglover@...> wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > I have a friend who is having an extremely > > frustrating time with her son's refusing to eat and > > I told her I would post to see if any of you had any > > ideas for her. He is a new patient of Dr. G's... > > they hope to join the list soon. > > > > Caroline > > > > > > Here's her situation... > > > > " We are having terrible eating issues with our son, > > Bobby, who eats next to nothing! Prior to the dairy > > free/whole grain...diet, he was eating cheerios for > > breakfast, yogurt for lunch and pizza for > > dinner...now he eats the same thing except cheerios > > are now corn flakes and everything dairy has been > > replaced with soy. Our issue is, besides his health > > issues, he also has an abundance of oral motor > > issues and won't even try new things. We put them > > on his plate and he throws them on the floor or will > > take them in his mouth for a second and then spits > > them out, often without chewing. . . For the last > > week we have tried what was suggested by Dr. > > Goldberg; this is your breakfast/lunch/dinner and > > that's it. So far, it doesn't seem to bother him, > > although he is 'grumpier' at times. But, as far as > > eating is going, it is not improving at all. And > > for the last two days, he wouldn't even eat his > > breakfast which was the only meal we were having! > > 'success' with, and even the pizza lately has been > > hit or miss. > > I was wondering if anyone else has had this with any > > of their children and could offer suggestions, we're > > willing to try ANYTHING! Thanks for any and all > > help. " > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Search. http://tools.search./ > newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 I had good luck using visual strategies. Had picture menus in a schedule and took each bite of food and stacked them up in little portion cups so he could see start and finished and how much. It's amazing how much of this has to do with the autism and not with what kind of food they like. Sometimes they are just stuck in rituals we don't see. You can email me offline if you want. Layla Re: Refusing to eat Hi all, I have a friend who is having an extremely frustrating time with her son's refusing to eat and I told her I would post to see if any of you had any ideas for her. He is a new patient of Dr. G's... they hope to join the list soon. Caroline Here's her situation... " We are having terrible eating issues with our son, Bobby, who eats next to nothing! Prior to the dairy free/whole grain...diet, he was eating cheerios for breakfast, yogurt for lunch and pizza for dinner...now he eats the same thing except cheerios are now corn flakes and everything dairy has been replaced with soy. Our issue is, besides his health issues, he also has an abundance of oral motor issues and won't even try new things. We put them on his plate and he throws them on the floor or will take them in his mouth for a second and then spits them out, often without chewing. . . For the last week we have tried what was suggested by Dr. Goldberg; this is your breakfast/lunch/dinner and that's it. So far, it doesn't seem to bother him, although he is 'grumpier' at times. But, as far as eating is going, it is not improving at all. And for the last two days, he wouldn't even eat his breakfast which was the only meal we were having! 'success' with, and even the pizza lately has been hit or miss. I was wondering if anyone else has had this with any of their children and could offer suggestions, we're willing to try ANYTHING! Thanks for any and all help. " ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 When my son first started life without milk he too refused to eat. He lost a lot of weight. I began buying things like Mc's hamburgers or nuggets with French fries for him to eat. High calorie and tasty. We loved taco bell and Arby's too. I had to break them up the food into pieces and feed him. His motor planning was so bad he couldn't decide what to eat first, next or whenever. I feed him until he was about 5. Then he started watching his sister to know what to eat next. If she took a bit of mashed potatoes, he took a bite. If she took a bite of meat he took a bite. One time she accidently dropped her plate on the floor, and yes he took his plate and threw it on the floor. Now he eats almost everything except veggies and he does eat salad and cold veggies. The great part of this story is we survived this. He is now independent, in college, driving and has friends. Thank G-d for Dr. G and ABA. Marcia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 Hi All, Our 29 month old picky eater will eat chicken soup made from scratch with boiled chicken and an assortment of veggies from the produce dept. Hope this helps. Bill Crumpler. OK to call me, as I am a one finger typest. 951-203-8561. > > > Hi all, > > > > I have a friend who is having an extremely > > frustrating time with her son's refusing to eat and > > I told her I would post to see if any of you had any > > ideas for her. He is a new patient of Dr. G's... > > they hope to join the list soon. > > > > Caroline > > > > > > Here's her situation... > > > > " We are having terrible eating issues with our son, > > Bobby, who eats next to nothing! Prior to the dairy > > free/whole grain...diet, he was eating cheerios for > > breakfast, yogurt for lunch and pizza for > > dinner...now he eats the same thing except cheerios > > are now corn flakes and everything dairy has been > > replaced with soy. Our issue is, besides his health > > issues, he also has an abundance of oral motor > > issues and won't even try new things. We put them > > on his plate and he throws them on the floor or will > > take them in his mouth for a second and then spits > > them out, often without chewing. . . For the last > > week we have tried what was suggested by Dr. > > Goldberg; this is your breakfast/lunch/dinner and > > that's it. So far, it doesn't seem to bother him, > > although he is 'grumpier' at times. But, as far as > > eating is going, it is not improving at all. And > > for the last two days, he wouldn't even eat his > > breakfast which was the only meal we were having! > > 'success' with, and even the pizza lately has been > > hit or miss. > > I was wondering if anyone else has had this with any > > of their children and could offer suggestions, we're > > willing to try ANYTHING! Thanks for any and all > > help. " > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ ______________ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Search. http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 Hi- Thanks for all of the great suggestions. Bobby has pretty much converted his previous diet to dairy free...meaning that he now eat soy yogurt, soy pudding and we order pizza from his favorite pizzeria without the cheese and then either put soy mozzarella or manchega cheese on top. He will once in a while eat french toast with sugar free syrup- but that is a rarity. Bobby receives speech/feeding services 5X's a week and also O/T services 3X's a week- both have been trying things and offering suggestions- but we are all at a loss. The biggest frustration is that he won't even TRY something new. I know children can be picky- I am extremely picky myself- but he won't try, and that closes many doors for us, as with the diet we're trying to follow would have him eating meat and vegetables- he won't try either- once in a blue moon he'll eat a carrot- but that doesn't happen often. Does anyone have a suggestion on getting him to 'try' new things? I realize that in his world- he's still has NO communication skills/language- this is probably the only thing he controls, but I still would love to be able to show him that variety in diet will make him better. He also has no issue skipping a meal. Thanks in advance for your help. Jenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 The absolutely best thing we found to address eating problems due to oral sensitivities was regular trigeminal/cranial stimulation. This is extremely helpful at dampening all types of other sensory sensitivities as well. It can be done by anyone and should be done three or more times a day regularly until the child's over-sensitivities are regulated. To do this, you provide a very light, tickling finger touch all over the face, head and neck for a full minute, followed by a deep, finger pressure over the same areas for another minute. Most sensitive kids cannot tolerate even a few seconds of the light touch at first so build up slowly by doing a quick light touch followed by longer deep pressure and expand the length of time for the light touch very gradually. The other miracle thing I've found for those refusing to eat is the allergy drug Periactin. This is typically used for allergies affecting the gastro-intestinal tract. Interestingly, it works with seratonin instead of histamine. I wish a doctor had recommended it when my son was 3 and had first started his eating problems. It would have saved over ten years of the enormous grief we went through trying to get the kid to eat. Gaylen **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 Hi- No one has ever suggested trigeminal/cranial stimulation to us, and we've had a SLP, OT and PT services since Bobby was one, but definately something we'll try- starting today when he gets home from school. We'll ask Dr. G about Periactin on our next phone conference, thanks! Jen > > The absolutely best thing we found to address eating problems due to oral > sensitivities was regular trigeminal/cranial stimulation. This is extremely > helpful at dampening all types of other sensory sensitivities as well. It can > be done by anyone and should be done three or more times a day regularly > until the child's over-sensitivities are regulated. To do this, you provide a > very light, tickling finger touch all over the face, head and neck for a full > minute, followed by a deep, finger pressure over the same areas for another > minute. Most sensitive kids cannot tolerate even a few seconds of the light > touch at first so build up slowly by doing a quick light touch followed by > longer deep pressure and expand the length of time for the light touch very > gradually. > > The other miracle thing I've found for those refusing to eat is the allergy > drug Periactin. This is typically used for allergies affecting the > gastro-intestinal tract. Interestingly, it works with seratonin instead of histamine. > I wish a doctor had recommended it when my son was 3 and had first started > his eating problems. It would have saved over ten years of the enormous > grief we went through trying to get the kid to eat. > Gaylen > > > > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise? NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Is this child working with a speech pathologist or occupational therapist? Many of the kids that I work with (as an SLP) seem to be on a " beige " diet. Working with the OT, we work on the sensory issues-tactile defensiveness can be a BIG issue for some of the kids---as well as the visual issue of how things look. We also use a progressive desensitization system--Kay Toomey in Denver has one that is quite detailed and is frequently referenced in the therapists' world. I agree that doing things that involve visual strategies and even social stories can also be helpful. One of the things that Kay Toomey's program does is presents the foods that the kids WILL eat in different ways--so it might be cut in different shapes, put on different types of plates/bowls, made in different colors, etc. It is also important to have well defined " meals " and not allow the child to " graze " throughout the day--or fill up on liquids like juices. At meal time, they recommend putting a food that the child is known to eat on the plate, as well as a new food. It can take 50 presentations --- of just being there and no one making a deal about it, suggesting they try it, etc.- before some kids will try a new food. The good news, once they start to try some new foods, they seem to be willing to try some other foods a little more quickly than the 50 presentations. I would strongly suggest the family find a professional (speech path, OT, or dietician ) who has experience with this type of feeding problem to help guide them Ann On 1/3/08, davswife@... <davswife@...> wrote: > > > I had good luck using visual strategies. Had picture menus in a schedule > and took each bite of food and stacked them up in little portion cups so he > could see start and finished and how much. It's amazing how much of this has > to do with the autism and not with what kind of food they like. Sometimes > they are just stuck in rituals we don't see. You can email me offline if you > want. > > Layla > > Re: Refusing to eat > > Hi all, > > I have a friend who is having an extremely frustrating time with her son's > refusing to eat and I told her I would post to see if any of you had any > ideas for her. He is a new patient of Dr. G's... they hope to join the > list soon. > > Caroline > > Here's her situation... > > " We are having terrible eating issues with our son, Bobby, who eats next > to nothing! Prior to the dairy free/whole grain...diet, he was eating > cheerios for breakfast, yogurt for lunch and pizza for dinner...now he eats > the same thing except cheerios are now corn flakes and everything dairy has > been replaced with soy. Our issue is, besides his health issues, he also has > an abundance of oral motor issues and won't even try new things. We put them > on his plate and he throws them on the floor or will take them in his mouth > for a second and then spits them out, often without chewing. . . For the > last week we have tried what was suggested by Dr. Goldberg; this is your > breakfast/lunch/dinner and that's it. So far, it doesn't seem to bother him, > although he is 'grumpier' at times. But, as far as eating is going, it is > not improving at all. And for the last two days, he wouldn't even eat his > breakfast which was the only meal we were having! 'success' with, and even > the pizza lately has been hit or miss. > > I was wondering if anyone else has had this with any of their children and > could offer suggestions, we're willing to try ANYTHING! Thanks for any and > all help. " > > __________________________________________________________ > More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - > http://webmail.aol.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 Hi Ann- Bobby has worked with a SLP(5x's a week), OT (3x's), PT(3x's) and SpEd teacher (full time SpEd preschool) for almost 3 years now (he's going to be 4), and an although everyone continues to try new things, we're at a loss. No one has ever recommended a dietician, but it is certainly something worth looking into. Bobby is so selective about what he will eat, when we place something new in front of him he just throws it on the floor. We have also tried having him eat alone with just one of us (we also have a 2 and 1 year old), but that doesn't seem to make a difference. We have also 'chased' him around the house with food to get him to try something, but if it isn't something in his 'normal diet' he won't even entertain it. Bobby also has some major oral motor/ planning difficulties, which of course does not help the matter. Dr. G has told us that when he starts to 'feel better' he'll start eating, and we've tried the strategy of this is what you get for dinner and that's it, but he's fine skipping meals, and doesn't drink a lot either (he'll only drink soy milk and even that is sometimes a fight to get him to hydrate himself as well)I appreciate any suggestions you have and will try everyone of them out. This 'issue' consumes me as I know he's not going to 'get better' if his diet isn't appropriate. Thanks Jenn > > > > > > I had good luck using visual strategies. Had picture menus in a schedule > > and took each bite of food and stacked them up in little portion cups so he > > could see start and finished and how much. It's amazing how much of this has > > to do with the autism and not with what kind of food they like. Sometimes > > they are just stuck in rituals we don't see. You can email me offline if you > > want. > > > > Layla > > > > Re: Refusing to eat > > > > Hi all, > > > > I have a friend who is having an extremely frustrating time with her son's > > refusing to eat and I told her I would post to see if any of you had any > > ideas for her. He is a new patient of Dr. G's... they hope to join the > > list soon. > > > > Caroline > > > > Here's her situation... > > > > " We are having terrible eating issues with our son, Bobby, who eats next > > to nothing! Prior to the dairy free/whole grain...diet, he was eating > > cheerios for breakfast, yogurt for lunch and pizza for dinner...now he eats > > the same thing except cheerios are now corn flakes and everything dairy has > > been replaced with soy. Our issue is, besides his health issues, he also has > > an abundance of oral motor issues and won't even try new things. We put them > > on his plate and he throws them on the floor or will take them in his mouth > > for a second and then spits them out, often without chewing. . . For the > > last week we have tried what was suggested by Dr. Goldberg; this is your > > breakfast/lunch/dinner and that's it. So far, it doesn't seem to bother him, > > although he is 'grumpier' at times. But, as far as eating is going, it is > > not improving at all. And for the last two days, he wouldn't even eat his > > breakfast which was the only meal we were having! 'success' with, and even > > the pizza lately has been hit or miss. > > > > I was wondering if anyone else has had this with any of their children and > > could offer suggestions, we're willing to try ANYTHING! Thanks for any and > > all help. " > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - > > http://webmail.aol.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 Hi Jenn, I know it's hard and scary when they are already so limited, but if your son is getting soy, I would try eliminating it for a week to see if things do not improve. They soy protein is very similar to the bovine (cow) protein, and if he is sensitive to one he might be sensitive to the other and it could be making him feel unwell enough (nauseated) to have much of an appetite. I have BTDT with my baby girl. She was diagnosed with failure to thrive, but she could not eat because of food intolerance. Once we figured out she did not tolerate corn (which is in every single infant formula), she started being able to eat and was willing to try all kinds of new foods. Kristy Re: Refusing to eat > > > > Hi all, > > > > I have a friend who is having an extremely frustrating time with her son's > > refusing to eat and I told her I would post to see if any of you had any > > ideas for her. He is a new patient of Dr. G's... they hope to join the > > list soon. > > > > Caroline > > > > Here's her situation... > > > > " We are having terrible eating issues with our son, Bobby, who eats next > > to nothing! Prior to the dairy free/whole grain...diet, he was eating > > cheerios for breakfast, yogurt for lunch and pizza for dinner...now he eats > > the same thing except cheerios are now corn flakes and everything dairy has > > been replaced with soy. Our issue is, besides his health issues, he also has > > an abundance of oral motor issues and won't even try new things. We put them > > on his plate and he throws them on the floor or will take them in his mouth > > for a second and then spits them out, often without chewing. . . For the > > last week we have tried what was suggested by Dr. Goldberg; this is your > > breakfast/lunch/dinner and that's it. So far, it doesn't seem to bother him, > > although he is 'grumpier' at times. But, as far as eating is going, it is > > not improving at all. And for the last two days, he wouldn't even eat his > > breakfast which was the only meal we were having! 'success' with, and even > > the pizza lately has been hit or miss. > > > > I was wondering if anyone else has had this with any of their children and > > could offer suggestions, we're willing to try ANYTHING! Thanks for any and > > all help. " > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - > > http://webmail.aol.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 Jenn, What will Bobby easily eat right now? Perhaps we can help you brainstorm some ideas by starting with what he will eat. I totally understand your frustration and obsession. We traveled that path for many years. Gaylen **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300000002\ 5 48) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 Can you hide things in his food? I stopped fighting him on the food issue and now I just hide stuff in his food. For instance, I put butternut squash in his pancakes this morning. He doesn't notice the difference at all (squash is pureed). I also put peas on his pizzas. I puree the peas and put a thin layer underneath the pizza sauce. Just enough that he doesn't notice it. Sometimes I put too much on and he tells me his pizza is yucky and he won't eat it so I have to be careful how much I use. But now he does get veggies in everything he eats with the exception of things like popcorn, cereal, etc. Anything I actually cook that requires ingredients gets something added to it. I only started doing this after I got the book Deceptively Delicious. I did put peas on his pizza before then but I didn't really know how to hide veggies well until I got this book. So pizza was the only time he got veggies practically. He does eat corn, though. I feel *sooo* much better knowing I'm getting veggies into him. Now I just need to figure out how to get him to eat more protein. I'm considering trying to puree meats and hide them in his foods, too. That will be an experiment I'll be working on this weekend. Cheryl On Feb 1, 2008, at 9:22 AM, jennkleiber wrote: > Hi Ann- > Bobby has worked with a SLP(5x's a week), OT (3x's), PT(3x's) and > SpEd teacher (full time SpEd preschool) for almost 3 years now (he's > going to be 4), and an although everyone continues to try new things, > we're at a loss. No one has ever recommended a dietician, but it is > certainly something worth looking into. Bobby is so selective about > what he will eat, when we place something new in front of him he just > throws it on the floor. We have also tried having him eat alone with > just one of us (we also have a 2 and 1 year old), but that doesn't > seem to make a difference. We have also 'chased' him around the > house with food to get him to try something, but if it isn't > something in his 'normal diet' he won't even entertain it. > Bobby also has some major oral motor/ planning difficulties, which of > course does not help the matter. Dr. G has told us that when he > starts to 'feel better' he'll start eating, and we've tried the > strategy of this is what you get for dinner and that's it, but he's > fine skipping meals, and doesn't drink a lot either (he'll only drink > soy milk and even that is sometimes a fight to get him to hydrate > himself as well)I appreciate any suggestions you have and will try > everyone of them out. > This 'issue' consumes me as I know he's not going to 'get better' if > his diet isn't appropriate. > Thanks > Jenn > > > > > > > > > > I had good luck using visual strategies. Had picture menus in a > schedule > > > and took each bite of food and stacked them up in little portion > cups so he > > > could see start and finished and how much. It's amazing how much > of this has > > > to do with the autism and not with what kind of food they like. > Sometimes > > > they are just stuck in rituals we don't see. You can email me > offline if you > > > want. > > > > > > Layla > > > > > > Re: Refusing to eat > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I have a friend who is having an extremely frustrating time with > her son's > > > refusing to eat and I told her I would post to see if any of you > had any > > > ideas for her. He is a new patient of Dr. G's... they hope to > join the > > > list soon. > > > > > > Caroline > > > > > > Here's her situation... > > > > > > " We are having terrible eating issues with our son, Bobby, who > eats next > > > to nothing! Prior to the dairy free/whole grain...diet, he was > eating > > > cheerios for breakfast, yogurt for lunch and pizza for > dinner...now he eats > > > the same thing except cheerios are now corn flakes and everything > dairy has > > > been replaced with soy. Our issue is, besides his health issues, > he also has > > > an abundance of oral motor issues and won't even try new things. > We put them > > > on his plate and he throws them on the floor or will take them in > his mouth > > > for a second and then spits them out, often without chewing. . . > For the > > > last week we have tried what was suggested by Dr. Goldberg; this > is your > > > breakfast/lunch/dinner and that's it. So far, it doesn't seem to > bother him, > > > although he is 'grumpier' at times. But, as far as eating is > going, it is > > > not improving at all. And for the last two days, he wouldn't even > eat his > > > breakfast which was the only meal we were having! 'success' with, > and even > > > the pizza lately has been hit or miss. > > > > > > I was wondering if anyone else has had this with any of their > children and > > > could offer suggestions, we're willing to try ANYTHING! Thanks > for any and > > > all help. " > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > > More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - > > > http://webmail.aol.com > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 My son is now nineteen and recovered. He is attending college on a merit scholarship and living in the dorm five hours away. If you would have told me this was possible when he was little I never would have believed it. When we were on an extreme diet before Dr. G, my son also refused to eat. He stopped gaining weight and it was almost impossible to get him to eat anything. I started feeding him French Fries and Mc 's hamburgers with no cheese just to put a little weight on him. We ate chicken nuggets and pizza ordered with toppings and no cheese. Food is one of the few things in their crazy world they can control and keep the same. So you have to try to entice them with things that are a bit tasty. The motor planning problem also came into play, because my son couldn't decide which food to eat first. I fed him until he was about six so this wouldn't interfere with his eating. After that he would copy his sister to know which foods to eat. If she took a bite of meat, he took a bite of meat. One time she accidently dropped her plate. So he picked up his plate and threw it on the floor. He was lucky I didn't kill him that time. You need to know even though our kids can't communicate or show us they understand, but they do. So talk to your child. Tell him he is starting to eat another way that will help make him feel better. I didn't realize how much my kid did understand until after he was recovered. One of the hardest things to do is to keep talking to someone who gives you no indication one way or another that they get what you are saying. Next, go on a field trip with him to the nearest Whole Foods store and help him pick out fun things to eat like Soy pudding etc. There are many yummy treats that they can eat at Whole Foods. We are their window to the world and they take their clues from us. So don't be uptight at meal time and avoid the food power struggles. Easier said than done. There are small containers of Silk milk if that is important to him or just put water in a very fun container. At first the diet seems daunting when you don't know what to feed your child, so your apprehension is probably being felt by him. I remember waking up and terrified because I didn't know what to feed my child that day. Our kids are much smarter than we first give them credit for so make it fun if you can. Marcia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 Hi- Thanks to everyone for all of your help in advance. I did buy Deceptively Delicious- actually received it in the mail yesterday and will try to go through that as well- but I am not a cook, so making substitutions that won't change the flavors and are acceptable with the diet will be a little difficult. Bobby is currently eating corn flakes and a banana for breakfast- our only 'right' meal. For snack (he's in school all day so he has two) he has a small bag of pretzels or potato chips, maybe oreos (the reduced fat ones), lorna doones, maybe another banana, cateloupe, grapes or an apple- the snacks change everyday, but there's always a piece or two of fruit and one of the others. For lunch when he's in school he'll have Ritz crackers with peanut butter and a yogurt (soy of course). When he gets home from school he has a soy pudding (to take his meds) and dinner is generally french toast (with sugar free syrup) or pizza with a replacement cheese. Sometimes he'll have another banana- one would think all these bananas would have him 'plugged up' but he's quite regular. We were also just told to limit fruits to twice a day, so now I don't know what to give him, as that is his entire diet. Once in a blue moon, and I do think the moon has to be blue he'll eat a pancake or try what we're eating for dinner, but generally food hits the floor and we're left wondering what to do. So that's his diet, cereal, pizza and bread and of course yogurt! All dairy free and as processed as we can get. We've tried putting things under the cheese sometimes it's a go and we jump up and down and other times he catches on and spits it all out and will eat nothing. He also will only drink soy milk- we had him on rice milk but he had a rash from it, he will not drink any water or juice no matter how we disguise it. He's also not a big drinker, maybe 20 oz a day? Any suggestions are appreciated- and I'm so glad I'm finally able to post, I've been 'posting' for some time, but we finally have made it to the site, thanks Jenn > > Jenn, > > What will Bobby easily eat right now? Perhaps we can help you brainstorm > some ideas by starting with what he will eat. I totally understand your > frustration and obsession. We traveled that path for many years. > Gaylen > > > > **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. > (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy? NCID=aolcmp003000000025 > 48) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 Hi- If he usually eats fruit w/every meal, you could take the equivalent of two servings (ie certain amount of grapes, 1/2 an apple, whatever the serving is) and divide it up throughout the day? I guess it doesn't have to be the same fruits - just the amount... Time on the meds and protocol helped my boys with their diets, but it fluctuates. My oldest is in a bad spell w/food choices right now but started taking other foods recently after being on some antibiotics. It's wierd. Most of all, the longer we were low carb, low sugar, and low allergy, the more my oldest son would try other foods. HTH- --- jennkleiber <jennkleiber@...> wrote: > Hi- > Thanks to everyone for all of your help in advance. > I did buy > Deceptively Delicious- actually received it in the > mail yesterday and > will try to go through that as well- but I am not a > cook, so making > substitutions that won't change the flavors and are > acceptable with > the diet will be a little difficult. > Bobby is currently eating corn flakes and a banana > for breakfast- our > only 'right' meal. For snack (he's in school all > day so he has two) > he has a small bag of pretzels or potato chips, > maybe oreos (the > reduced fat ones), lorna doones, maybe another > banana, cateloupe, > grapes or an apple- the snacks change everyday, but > there's always a > piece or two of fruit and one of the others. For > lunch when he's in > school he'll have Ritz crackers with peanut butter > and a yogurt (soy > of course). When he gets home from school he has a > soy pudding (to > take his meds) and dinner is generally french toast > (with sugar free > syrup) or pizza with a replacement cheese. > Sometimes he'll have > another banana- one would think all these bananas > would have > him 'plugged up' but he's quite regular. We were > also just told to > limit fruits to twice a day, so now I don't know > what to give him, as > that is his entire diet. Once in a blue moon, and I > do think the moon > has to be blue he'll eat a pancake or try what we're > eating for > dinner, but generally food hits the floor and we're > left wondering > what to do. So that's his diet, cereal, pizza and > bread and of > course yogurt! All dairy free and as processed as > we can get. > We've tried putting things under the cheese > sometimes it's a go and > we jump up and down and other times he catches on > and spits it all > out and will eat nothing. He also will only drink > soy milk- we had > him on rice milk but he had a rash from it, he will > not drink any > water or juice no matter how we disguise it. He's > also not a big > drinker, maybe 20 oz a day? Any suggestions are > appreciated- and I'm > so glad I'm finally able to post, I've been > 'posting' for some time, > but we finally have made it to the site, thanks > Jenn > > > > > Jenn, > > > > What will Bobby easily eat right now? Perhaps we > can help you > brainstorm > > some ideas by starting with what he will eat. I > totally > understand your > > frustration and obsession. We traveled that path > for many years. > > Gaylen > > > > > > > > **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of > all time on AOL > Music. > > > (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy? > NCID=aolcmp003000000025 > > 48) > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Never miss a thing. Make your home page. http://www./r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 I'm wondering about baby food. Has anyone tried to sneak baby food vegetables into food with any success. My son loves pizza and has it several times a week (I make it with GFCF bagels, hamburger buns or english muffins). It would be pretty easy to sneak them into pizza sauce. Dairy is our battle with Noah! He loves cheese and sour cream. He won't eat any of the soy cheeses, so I've been using goat cheese with some success and he loves goat milk. Good luck with the food issues. I've have an NT non eater, so I know how you feel. Robyn <thecolemans4@...> wrote: Hi- If he usually eats fruit w/every meal, you could take the equivalent of two servings (ie certain amount of grapes, 1/2 an apple, whatever the serving is) and divide it up throughout the day? I guess it doesn't have to be the same fruits - just the amount... Time on the meds and protocol helped my boys with their diets, but it fluctuates. My oldest is in a bad spell w/food choices right now but started taking other foods recently after being on some antibiotics. It's wierd. Most of all, the longer we were low carb, low sugar, and low allergy, the more my oldest son would try other foods. HTH- --- jennkleiber <jennkleiber@...> wrote: > Hi- > Thanks to everyone for all of your help in advance. > I did buy > Deceptively Delicious- actually received it in the > mail yesterday and > will try to go through that as well- but I am not a > cook, so making > substitutions that won't change the flavors and are > acceptable with > the diet will be a little difficult. > Bobby is currently eating corn flakes and a banana > for breakfast- our > only 'right' meal. For snack (he's in school all > day so he has two) > he has a small bag of pretzels or potato chips, > maybe oreos (the > reduced fat ones), lorna doones, maybe another > banana, cateloupe, > grapes or an apple- the snacks change everyday, but > there's always a > piece or two of fruit and one of the others. For > lunch when he's in > school he'll have Ritz crackers with peanut butter > and a yogurt (soy > of course). When he gets home from school he has a > soy pudding (to > take his meds) and dinner is generally french toast > (with sugar free > syrup) or pizza with a replacement cheese. > Sometimes he'll have > another banana- one would think all these bananas > would have > him 'plugged up' but he's quite regular. We were > also just told to > limit fruits to twice a day, so now I don't know > what to give him, as > that is his entire diet. Once in a blue moon, and I > do think the moon > has to be blue he'll eat a pancake or try what we're > eating for > dinner, but generally food hits the floor and we're > left wondering > what to do. So that's his diet, cereal, pizza and > bread and of > course yogurt! All dairy free and as processed as > we can get. > We've tried putting things under the cheese > sometimes it's a go and > we jump up and down and other times he catches on > and spits it all > out and will eat nothing. He also will only drink > soy milk- we had > him on rice milk but he had a rash from it, he will > not drink any > water or juice no matter how we disguise it. He's > also not a big > drinker, maybe 20 oz a day? Any suggestions are > appreciated- and I'm > so glad I'm finally able to post, I've been > 'posting' for some time, > but we finally have made it to the site, thanks > Jenn > > > > > Jenn, > > > > What will Bobby easily eat right now? Perhaps we > can help you > brainstorm > > some ideas by starting with what he will eat. I > totally > understand your > > frustration and obsession. We traveled that path > for many years. > > Gaylen > > > > > > > > **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of > all time on AOL > Music. > > > (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy? > NCID=aolcmp003000000025 > > 48) > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > __________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make your home page. http://www./r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 Hi, Marcia. Thanks for the post. I think that your advice to talk to your child about the changes in diet is a good one. If I've learned one thing in the past four years, it's that my son understands so much more than anyone gives him credit for. We saw Dr. G for the first time this past Wednesday and one of the most important things he told us was to sit down every day--choose a quiet time, such as right before bed--and explain to him that we're working really hard with Dr. G to make him feel better. I thought it was wonderfully compassionate and caring and advice that was right on target. I remember your post about your son sometime ago on this list. It was a tipping point for both my husband and me to make the decision to see Dr. G. Thank you and all the wonderful people on this list. All the best, Robyn Marcia Hinds <hindssite@...> wrote: My son is now nineteen and recovered. He is attending college on a merit scholarship and living in the dorm five hours away. If you would have told me this was possible when he was little I never would have believed it. When we were on an extreme diet before Dr. G, my son also refused to eat. He stopped gaining weight and it was almost impossible to get him to eat anything. I started feeding him French Fries and Mc 's hamburgers with no cheese just to put a little weight on him. We ate chicken nuggets and pizza ordered with toppings and no cheese. Food is one of the few things in their crazy world they can control and keep the same. So you have to try to entice them with things that are a bit tasty. The motor planning problem also came into play, because my son couldn't decide which food to eat first. I fed him until he was about six so this wouldn't interfere with his eating. After that he would copy his sister to know which foods to eat. If she took a bite of meat, he took a bite of meat. One time she accidently dropped her plate. So he picked up his plate and threw it on the floor. He was lucky I didn't kill him that time. You need to know even though our kids can't communicate or show us they understand, but they do. So talk to your child. Tell him he is starting to eat another way that will help make him feel better. I didn't realize how much my kid did understand until after he was recovered. One of the hardest things to do is to keep talking to someone who gives you no indication one way or another that they get what you are saying. Next, go on a field trip with him to the nearest Whole Foods store and help him pick out fun things to eat like Soy pudding etc. There are many yummy treats that they can eat at Whole Foods. We are their window to the world and they take their clues from us. So don't be uptight at meal time and avoid the food power struggles. Easier said than done. There are small containers of Silk milk if that is important to him or just put water in a very fun container. At first the diet seems daunting when you don't know what to feed your child, so your apprehension is probably being felt by him. I remember waking up and terrified because I didn't know what to feed my child that day. Our kids are much smarter than we first give them credit for so make it fun if you can. Marcia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 Baby food works very well, it's pureed food so it's not any different other than the fact that it does tend to cost more. I'm on a limited budget so I'm always looking for ways to save money. I can't afford to buy a ton of fresh veggies even though I would prefer it so I buy frozen veggies or canned where I can. Not a lot of places have frozen butternut squash, beets and such (Whole Foods does on some) so those I buy fresh. When I first started hiding foods I did buy baby food. And it works well when you don't have time to puree or run out of frozen purees. It's just cheaper to buy it and puree yourself. Now I go to the store, buy my frozen and fresh veggies, come home and cook, puree and freeze. Cheryl On Feb 2, 2008, at 10:39 AM, Robyn & Greg Coggins wrote: > I'm wondering about baby food. Has anyone tried to sneak baby food > vegetables into food with any success. My son loves pizza and has > it several times a week (I make it with GFCF bagels, hamburger buns > or english muffins). It would be pretty easy to sneak them into > pizza sauce. Dairy is our battle with Noah! He loves cheese and > sour cream. He won't eat any of the soy cheeses, so I've been using > goat cheese with some success and he loves goat milk. > > Good luck with the food issues. I've have an NT non eater, so I > know how you feel. > > Robyn > > <thecolemans4@...> wrote: > Hi- > If he usually eats fruit w/every meal, you could take > the equivalent of two servings (ie certain amount of > grapes, 1/2 an apple, whatever the serving is) and > divide it up throughout the day? I guess it doesn't > have to be the same fruits - just the amount... > > Time on the meds and protocol helped my boys with > their diets, but it fluctuates. My oldest is in a bad > spell w/food choices right now but started taking > other foods recently after being on some antibiotics. > It's wierd. > > Most of all, the longer we were low carb, low sugar, > and low allergy, the more my oldest son would try > other foods. > > HTH- > > > --- jennkleiber <jennkleiber@...> wrote: > > > Hi- > > Thanks to everyone for all of your help in advance. > > I did buy > > Deceptively Delicious- actually received it in the > > mail yesterday and > > will try to go through that as well- but I am not a > > cook, so making > > substitutions that won't change the flavors and are > > acceptable with > > the diet will be a little difficult. > > Bobby is currently eating corn flakes and a banana > > for breakfast- our > > only 'right' meal. For snack (he's in school all > > day so he has two) > > he has a small bag of pretzels or potato chips, > > maybe oreos (the > > reduced fat ones), lorna doones, maybe another > > banana, cateloupe, > > grapes or an apple- the snacks change everyday, but > > there's always a > > piece or two of fruit and one of the others. For > > lunch when he's in > > school he'll have Ritz crackers with peanut butter > > and a yogurt (soy > > of course). When he gets home from school he has a > > soy pudding (to > > take his meds) and dinner is generally french toast > > (with sugar free > > syrup) or pizza with a replacement cheese. > > Sometimes he'll have > > another banana- one would think all these bananas > > would have > > him 'plugged up' but he's quite regular. We were > > also just told to > > limit fruits to twice a day, so now I don't know > > what to give him, as > > that is his entire diet. Once in a blue moon, and I > > do think the moon > > has to be blue he'll eat a pancake or try what we're > > eating for > > dinner, but generally food hits the floor and we're > > left wondering > > what to do. So that's his diet, cereal, pizza and > > bread and of > > course yogurt! All dairy free and as processed as > > we can get. > > We've tried putting things under the cheese > > sometimes it's a go and > > we jump up and down and other times he catches on > > and spits it all > > out and will eat nothing. He also will only drink > > soy milk- we had > > him on rice milk but he had a rash from it, he will > > not drink any > > water or juice no matter how we disguise it. He's > > also not a big > > drinker, maybe 20 oz a day? Any suggestions are > > appreciated- and I'm > > so glad I'm finally able to post, I've been > > 'posting' for some time, > > but we finally have made it to the site, thanks > > Jenn > > > > > > > > Jenn, > > > > > > What will Bobby easily eat right now? Perhaps we > > can help you > > brainstorm > > > some ideas by starting with what he will eat. I > > totally > > understand your > > > frustration and obsession. We traveled that path > > for many years. > > > Gaylen > > > > > > > > > > > > **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of > > all time on AOL > > Music. > > > > > > (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy? > > NCID=aolcmp003000000025 > > > 48) > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > Never miss a thing. Make your home page. > http://www./r/hs > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 Hey, Cheryl. What do you use to puree the food? I thought I would try baby food first to see how well it works. I would much rather save the money and do it myself. I bet you could freeze it in ice cube trays and then take it out, microwave it and then add it to the sauce for pizza. I just have to find something that will puree the food completely smooth. So far my kids have noticed everything I hide in food, except for shredded carrots in taco meat. Robyn Cheryl Lowrance <c.lowrance@...> wrote: Baby food works very well, it's pureed food so it's not any different other than the fact that it does tend to cost more. I'm on a limited budget so I'm always looking for ways to save money. I can't afford to buy a ton of fresh veggies even though I would prefer it so I buy frozen veggies or canned where I can. Not a lot of places have frozen butternut squash, beets and such (Whole Foods does on some) so those I buy fresh. When I first started hiding foods I did buy baby food. And it works well when you don't have time to puree or run out of frozen purees. It's just cheaper to buy it and puree yourself. Now I go to the store, buy my frozen and fresh veggies, come home and cook, puree and freeze. Cheryl On Feb 2, 2008, at 10:39 AM, Robyn & Greg Coggins wrote: > I'm wondering about baby food. Has anyone tried to sneak baby food > vegetables into food with any success. My son loves pizza and has > it several times a week (I make it with GFCF bagels, hamburger buns > or english muffins). It would be pretty easy to sneak them into > pizza sauce. Dairy is our battle with Noah! He loves cheese and > sour cream. He won't eat any of the soy cheeses, so I've been using > goat cheese with some success and he loves goat milk. > > Good luck with the food issues. I've have an NT non eater, so I > know how you feel. > > Robyn > > <thecolemans4@...> wrote: > Hi- > If he usually eats fruit w/every meal, you could take > the equivalent of two servings (ie certain amount of > grapes, 1/2 an apple, whatever the serving is) and > divide it up throughout the day? I guess it doesn't > have to be the same fruits - just the amount... > > Time on the meds and protocol helped my boys with > their diets, but it fluctuates. My oldest is in a bad > spell w/food choices right now but started taking > other foods recently after being on some antibiotics. > It's wierd. > > Most of all, the longer we were low carb, low sugar, > and low allergy, the more my oldest son would try > other foods. > > HTH- > > > --- jennkleiber <jennkleiber@...> wrote: > > > Hi- > > Thanks to everyone for all of your help in advance. > > I did buy > > Deceptively Delicious- actually received it in the > > mail yesterday and > > will try to go through that as well- but I am not a > > cook, so making > > substitutions that won't change the flavors and are > > acceptable with > > the diet will be a little difficult. > > Bobby is currently eating corn flakes and a banana > > for breakfast- our > > only 'right' meal. For snack (he's in school all > > day so he has two) > > he has a small bag of pretzels or potato chips, > > maybe oreos (the > > reduced fat ones), lorna doones, maybe another > > banana, cateloupe, > > grapes or an apple- the snacks change everyday, but > > there's always a > > piece or two of fruit and one of the others. For > > lunch when he's in > > school he'll have Ritz crackers with peanut butter > > and a yogurt (soy > > of course). When he gets home from school he has a > > soy pudding (to > > take his meds) and dinner is generally french toast > > (with sugar free > > syrup) or pizza with a replacement cheese. > > Sometimes he'll have > > another banana- one would think all these bananas > > would have > > him 'plugged up' but he's quite regular. We were > > also just told to > > limit fruits to twice a day, so now I don't know > > what to give him, as > > that is his entire diet. Once in a blue moon, and I > > do think the moon > > has to be blue he'll eat a pancake or try what we're > > eating for > > dinner, but generally food hits the floor and we're > > left wondering > > what to do. So that's his diet, cereal, pizza and > > bread and of > > course yogurt! All dairy free and as processed as > > we can get. > > We've tried putting things under the cheese > > sometimes it's a go and > > we jump up and down and other times he catches on > > and spits it all > > out and will eat nothing. He also will only drink > > soy milk- we had > > him on rice milk but he had a rash from it, he will > > not drink any > > water or juice no matter how we disguise it. He's > > also not a big > > drinker, maybe 20 oz a day? Any suggestions are > > appreciated- and I'm > > so glad I'm finally able to post, I've been > > 'posting' for some time, > > but we finally have made it to the site, thanks > > Jenn > > > > > > > > Jenn, > > > > > > What will Bobby easily eat right now? Perhaps we > > can help you > > brainstorm > > > some ideas by starting with what he will eat. I > > totally > > understand your > > > frustration and obsession. We traveled that path > > for many years. > > > Gaylen > > > > > > > > > > > > **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of > > all time on AOL > > Music. > > > > > > (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy? > > NCID=aolcmp003000000025 > > > 48) > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > Never miss a thing. Make your home page. > http://www./r/hs > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 I use a food processor for larger amounts like sweet potatoes and I use a I use a hand blender for the smaller things. You can also use a regular blender. I love my hand blender! It's easy to use and cleans up so quick and easy. I always dread pulling out my food processor! Cheryl On Feb 2, 2008, at 3:11 PM, Robyn & Greg Coggins wrote: > Hey, Cheryl. > > What do you use to puree the food? I thought I would try baby food > first to see how well it works. I would much rather save the money > and do it myself. I bet you could freeze it in ice cube trays and > then take it out, microwave it and then add it to the sauce for > pizza. I just have to find something that will puree the food > completely smooth. So far my kids have noticed everything I hide in > food, except for shredded carrots in taco meat. > > Robyn > > Cheryl Lowrance <c.lowrance@...> wrote: > Baby food works very well, it's pureed food so it's not any different > other than the fact that it does tend to cost more. I'm on a limited > budget so I'm always looking for ways to save money. I can't afford > to buy a ton of fresh veggies even though I would prefer it so I buy > frozen veggies or canned where I can. Not a lot of places have > frozen butternut squash, beets and such (Whole Foods does on some) so > those I buy fresh. When I first started hiding foods I did buy baby > food. And it works well when you don't have time to puree or run out > of frozen purees. It's just cheaper to buy it and puree yourself. > > Now I go to the store, buy my frozen and fresh veggies, come home and > cook, puree and freeze. > > Cheryl > > On Feb 2, 2008, at 10:39 AM, Robyn & Greg Coggins wrote: > > > I'm wondering about baby food. Has anyone tried to sneak baby food > > vegetables into food with any success. My son loves pizza and has > > it several times a week (I make it with GFCF bagels, hamburger buns > > or english muffins). It would be pretty easy to sneak them into > > pizza sauce. Dairy is our battle with Noah! He loves cheese and > > sour cream. He won't eat any of the soy cheeses, so I've been using > > goat cheese with some success and he loves goat milk. > > > > Good luck with the food issues. I've have an NT non eater, so I > > know how you feel. > > > > Robyn > > > > <thecolemans4@...> wrote: > > Hi- > > If he usually eats fruit w/every meal, you could take > > the equivalent of two servings (ie certain amount of > > grapes, 1/2 an apple, whatever the serving is) and > > divide it up throughout the day? I guess it doesn't > > have to be the same fruits - just the amount... > > > > Time on the meds and protocol helped my boys with > > their diets, but it fluctuates. My oldest is in a bad > > spell w/food choices right now but started taking > > other foods recently after being on some antibiotics. > > It's wierd. > > > > Most of all, the longer we were low carb, low sugar, > > and low allergy, the more my oldest son would try > > other foods. > > > > HTH- > > > > > > --- jennkleiber <jennkleiber@...> wrote: > > > > > Hi- > > > Thanks to everyone for all of your help in advance. > > > I did buy > > > Deceptively Delicious- actually received it in the > > > mail yesterday and > > > will try to go through that as well- but I am not a > > > cook, so making > > > substitutions that won't change the flavors and are > > > acceptable with > > > the diet will be a little difficult. > > > Bobby is currently eating corn flakes and a banana > > > for breakfast- our > > > only 'right' meal. For snack (he's in school all > > > day so he has two) > > > he has a small bag of pretzels or potato chips, > > > maybe oreos (the > > > reduced fat ones), lorna doones, maybe another > > > banana, cateloupe, > > > grapes or an apple- the snacks change everyday, but > > > there's always a > > > piece or two of fruit and one of the others. For > > > lunch when he's in > > > school he'll have Ritz crackers with peanut butter > > > and a yogurt (soy > > > of course). When he gets home from school he has a > > > soy pudding (to > > > take his meds) and dinner is generally french toast > > > (with sugar free > > > syrup) or pizza with a replacement cheese. > > > Sometimes he'll have > > > another banana- one would think all these bananas > > > would have > > > him 'plugged up' but he's quite regular. We were > > > also just told to > > > limit fruits to twice a day, so now I don't know > > > what to give him, as > > > that is his entire diet. Once in a blue moon, and I > > > do think the moon > > > has to be blue he'll eat a pancake or try what we're > > > eating for > > > dinner, but generally food hits the floor and we're > > > left wondering > > > what to do. So that's his diet, cereal, pizza and > > > bread and of > > > course yogurt! All dairy free and as processed as > > > we can get. > > > We've tried putting things under the cheese > > > sometimes it's a go and > > > we jump up and down and other times he catches on > > > and spits it all > > > out and will eat nothing. He also will only drink > > > soy milk- we had > > > him on rice milk but he had a rash from it, he will > > > not drink any > > > water or juice no matter how we disguise it. He's > > > also not a big > > > drinker, maybe 20 oz a day? Any suggestions are > > > appreciated- and I'm > > > so glad I'm finally able to post, I've been > > > 'posting' for some time, > > > but we finally have made it to the site, thanks > > > Jenn > > > > > > > > > > > Jenn, > > > > > > > > What will Bobby easily eat right now? Perhaps we > > > can help you > > > brainstorm > > > > some ideas by starting with what he will eat. I > > > totally > > > understand your > > > > frustration and obsession. We traveled that path > > > for many years. > > > > Gaylen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of > > > all time on AOL > > > Music. > > > > > > > > > (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy? > > > NCID=aolcmp003000000025 > > > > 48) > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > Never miss a thing. Make your home page. > > http://www./r/hs > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 I think a food processor works well. Leave it going for four or five minutes. Re: Re: Refusing to eat Hey, Cheryl. What do you use to puree the food? I thought I would try baby food first to see how well it works. I would much rather save the money and do it myself. I bet you could freeze it in ice cube trays and then take it out, microwave it and then add it to the sauce for pizza. I just have to find something that will puree the food completely smooth. So far my kids have noticed everything I hide in food, except for shredded carrots in taco meat. Robyn Cheryl Lowrance <c.lowrance@...> wrote: Baby food works very well, it's pureed food so it's not any different other than the fact that it does tend to cost more. I'm on a limited budget so I'm always looking for ways to save money. I can't afford to buy a ton of fresh veggies even though I would prefer it so I buy frozen veggies or canned where I can. Not a lot of places have frozen butternut squash, beets and such (Whole Foods does on some) so those I buy fresh. When I first started hiding foods I did buy baby food. And it works well when you don't have time to puree or run out of frozen purees. It's just cheaper to buy it and puree yourself. Now I go to the store, buy my frozen and fresh veggies, come home and cook, puree and freeze. Cheryl On Feb 2, 2008, at 10:39 AM, Robyn & Greg Coggins wrote: > I'm wondering about baby food. Has anyone tried to sneak baby food > vegetables into food with any success. My son loves pizza and has > it several times a week (I make it with GFCF bagels, hamburger buns > or english muffins). It would be pretty easy to sneak them into > pizza sauce. Dairy is our battle with Noah! He loves cheese and > sour cream. He won't eat any of the soy cheeses, so I've been using > goat cheese with some success and he loves goat milk. > > Good luck with the food issues. I've have an NT non eater, so I > know how you feel. > > Robyn > > <thecolemans4@...> wrote: > Hi- > If he usually eats fruit w/every meal, you could take > the equivalent of two servings (ie certain amount of > grapes, 1/2 an apple, whatever the serving is) and > divide it up throughout the day? I guess it doesn't > have to be the same fruits - just the amount... > > Time on the meds and protocol helped my boys with > their diets, but it fluctuates. My oldest is in a bad > spell w/food choices right now but started taking > other foods recently after being on some antibiotics. > It's wierd. > > Most of all, the longer we were low carb, low sugar, > and low allergy, the more my oldest son would try > other foods. > > HTH- > > > --- jennkleiber <jennkleiber@...> wrote: > > > Hi- > > Thanks to everyone for all of your help in advance. > > I did buy > > Deceptively Delicious- actually received it in the > > mail yesterday and > > will try to go through that as well- but I am not a > > cook, so making > > substitutions that won't change the flavors and are > > acceptable with > > the diet will be a little difficult. > > Bobby is currently eating corn flakes and a banana > > for breakfast- our > > only 'right' meal. For snack (he's in school all > > day so he has two) > > he has a small bag of pretzels or potato chips, > > maybe oreos (the > > reduced fat ones), lorna doones, maybe another > > banana, cateloupe, > > grapes or an apple- the snacks change everyday, but > > there's always a > > piece or two of fruit and one of the others. For > > lunch when he's in > > school he'll have Ritz crackers with peanut butter > > and a yogurt (soy > > of course). When he gets home from school he has a > > soy pudding (to > > take his meds) and dinner is generally french toast > > (with sugar free > > syrup) or pizza with a replacement cheese. > > Sometimes he'll have > > another banana- one would think all these bananas > > would have > > him 'plugged up' but he's quite regular. We were > > also just told to > > limit fruits to twice a day, so now I don't know > > what to give him, as > > that is his entire diet. Once in a blue moon, and I > > do think the moon > > has to be blue he'll eat a pancake or try what we're > > eating for > > dinner, but generally food hits the floor and we're > > left wondering > > what to do. So that's his diet, cereal, pizza and > > bread and of > > course yogurt! All dairy free and as processed as > > we can get. > > We've tried putting things under the cheese > > sometimes it's a go and > > we jump up and down and other times he catches on > > and spits it all > > out and will eat nothing. He also will only drink > > soy milk- we had > > him on rice milk but he had a rash from it, he will > > not drink any > > water or juice no matter how we disguise it. He's > > also not a big > > drinker, maybe 20 oz a day? Any suggestions are > > appreciated- and I'm > > so glad I'm finally able to post, I've been > > 'posting' for some time, > > but we finally have made it to the site, thanks > > Jenn > > > > > > > > Jenn, > > > > > > What will Bobby easily eat right now? Perhaps we > > can help you > > brainstorm > > > some ideas by starting with what he will eat. I > > totally > > understand your > > > frustration and obsession. We traveled that path > > for many years. > > > Gaylen > > > > > > > > > > > > **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of > > all time on AOL > > Music. > > > > > > (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy? > > NCID=aolcmp003000000025 > > > 48) > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > Never miss a thing. Make your home page. > http://www./r/hs > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 Not to be negative, but ... My son is soooo hyper-sensitive to change that I have to buy the ground beef I cook for his cold hamburger patties from the same grocery store. If I even buy it from a different chain - with absolutey no way he could know - he'll sit down to eat and immediately say something is wrong with his food. lol! And it also has to be cooked the day before. If I cook it the day of, and it cools in the fridge for half the day and maybe even a period in the freezer, he still won't eat it. Again - no way he would be able to know - he simply doesn't like it. He went on an eating strike a few months back because of this and I had to explain this to him before he would even try it again. It's so wierd. And that's only ONE example. My husband has often thought he was just on a spoiled power trip and being stubborn, but I can simply remind him of these times and he realizes that it is real. I don't know why he would doubt it - he has seen me get just as neurotic about ice in past years! lol My best advice to offer is to not make food so much of a battle that it becomes a power play. My son and I have knocked heads in this arena too many times and I don't ever win. I also over-bargained until I realized that he started turning the tactic on me too. I've explained the importance of proteins and limiting carbs and other reasons for the diet to him, and he has also experienced the negative consequences from not following them first hand. Regular teaching and explaining - helping them understand that this is an important way of taking care of their body - goes a very long way. It was important to me that he internalize it rather than it constantly be a control issue. Of course we fall back to that over and over, but oh well. HTH- --- Robyn & Greg Coggins <rngcoggs@...> wrote: > I'm wondering about baby food. Has anyone tried to > sneak baby food vegetables into food with any > success. My son loves pizza and has it several times > a week (I make it with GFCF bagels, hamburger buns > or english muffins). It would be pretty easy to > sneak them into pizza sauce. Dairy is our battle > with Noah! He loves cheese and sour cream. He won't > eat any of the soy cheeses, so I've been using goat > cheese with some success and he loves goat milk. > > Good luck with the food issues. I've have an NT > non eater, so I know how you feel. > > Robyn > > <thecolemans4@...> wrote: > Hi- > If he usually eats fruit w/every meal, you could > take > the equivalent of two servings (ie certain amount of > grapes, 1/2 an apple, whatever the serving is) and > divide it up throughout the day? I guess it doesn't > have to be the same fruits - just the amount... > > Time on the meds and protocol helped my boys with > their diets, but it fluctuates. My oldest is in a > bad > spell w/food choices right now but started taking > other foods recently after being on some > antibiotics. > It's wierd. > > Most of all, the longer we were low carb, low sugar, > and low allergy, the more my oldest son would try > other foods. > > HTH- > > > --- jennkleiber <jennkleiber@...> wrote: > > > Hi- > > Thanks to everyone for all of your help in > advance. > > I did buy > > Deceptively Delicious- actually received it in the > > mail yesterday and > > will try to go through that as well- but I am not > a > > cook, so making > > substitutions that won't change the flavors and > are > > acceptable with > > the diet will be a little difficult. > > Bobby is currently eating corn flakes and a banana > > for breakfast- our > > only 'right' meal. For snack (he's in school all > > day so he has two) > > he has a small bag of pretzels or potato chips, > > maybe oreos (the > > reduced fat ones), lorna doones, maybe another > > banana, cateloupe, > > grapes or an apple- the snacks change everyday, > but > > there's always a > > piece or two of fruit and one of the others. For > > lunch when he's in > > school he'll have Ritz crackers with peanut butter > > and a yogurt (soy > > of course). When he gets home from school he has a > > soy pudding (to > > take his meds) and dinner is generally french > toast > > (with sugar free > > syrup) or pizza with a replacement cheese. > > Sometimes he'll have > > another banana- one would think all these bananas > > would have > > him 'plugged up' but he's quite regular. We were > > also just told to > > limit fruits to twice a day, so now I don't know > > what to give him, as > > that is his entire diet. Once in a blue moon, and > I > > do think the moon > > has to be blue he'll eat a pancake or try what > we're > > eating for > > dinner, but generally food hits the floor and > we're > > left wondering > > what to do. So that's his diet, cereal, pizza and > > bread and of > > course yogurt! All dairy free and as processed as > > we can get. > > We've tried putting things under the cheese > > sometimes it's a go and > > we jump up and down and other times he catches on > > and spits it all > > out and will eat nothing. He also will only drink > > soy milk- we had > > him on rice milk but he had a rash from it, he > will > > not drink any > > water or juice no matter how we disguise it. He's > > also not a big > > drinker, maybe 20 oz a day? Any suggestions are > > appreciated- and I'm > > so glad I'm finally able to post, I've been > > 'posting' for some time, > > but we finally have made it to the site, thanks > > Jenn > > > > > > > > Jenn, > > > > > > What will Bobby easily eat right now? Perhaps we > > can help you > > brainstorm > > > some ideas by starting with what he will eat. I > > totally > > understand your > > > frustration and obsession. We traveled that path > > for many years. > > > Gaylen > > > > > > > > > > > > **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of > > all time on AOL > > Music. > > > > > > (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy? > > NCID=aolcmp003000000025 > > > 48) > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > Never miss a thing. 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Guest guest Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 Thanks, I'll try that. I use corn flake crumbs to make Noah's chicken nuggets and it's much cheaper to buy store brand corn flakes and ground them up myself than to buy the Kellog's Corn Flake crumbs (5.99 for a small box). Last night I successfully made him his pizza with a whole serving of baby food sweet potatoes. He loved it! Thanks again. Robyn Robins <susan.robins@...> wrote: I think a food processor works well. Leave it going for four or five minutes. Re: Re: Refusing to eat Hey, Cheryl. What do you use to puree the food? I thought I would try baby food first to see how well it works. I would much rather save the money and do it myself. I bet you could freeze it in ice cube trays and then take it out, microwave it and then add it to the sauce for pizza. I just have to find something that will puree the food completely smooth. So far my kids have noticed everything I hide in food, except for shredded carrots in taco meat. Robyn Cheryl Lowrance <c.lowrance@...> wrote: Baby food works very well, it's pureed food so it's not any different other than the fact that it does tend to cost more. I'm on a limited budget so I'm always looking for ways to save money. I can't afford to buy a ton of fresh veggies even though I would prefer it so I buy frozen veggies or canned where I can. Not a lot of places have frozen butternut squash, beets and such (Whole Foods does on some) so those I buy fresh. When I first started hiding foods I did buy baby food. And it works well when you don't have time to puree or run out of frozen purees. It's just cheaper to buy it and puree yourself. Now I go to the store, buy my frozen and fresh veggies, come home and cook, puree and freeze. Cheryl On Feb 2, 2008, at 10:39 AM, Robyn & Greg Coggins wrote: > I'm wondering about baby food. Has anyone tried to sneak baby food > vegetables into food with any success. My son loves pizza and has > it several times a week (I make it with GFCF bagels, hamburger buns > or english muffins). It would be pretty easy to sneak them into > pizza sauce. Dairy is our battle with Noah! He loves cheese and > sour cream. He won't eat any of the soy cheeses, so I've been using > goat cheese with some success and he loves goat milk. > > Good luck with the food issues. I've have an NT non eater, so I > know how you feel. > > Robyn > > <thecolemans4@...> wrote: > Hi- > If he usually eats fruit w/every meal, you could take > the equivalent of two servings (ie certain amount of > grapes, 1/2 an apple, whatever the serving is) and > divide it up throughout the day? I guess it doesn't > have to be the same fruits - just the amount... > > Time on the meds and protocol helped my boys with > their diets, but it fluctuates. My oldest is in a bad > spell w/food choices right now but started taking > other foods recently after being on some antibiotics. > It's wierd. > > Most of all, the longer we were low carb, low sugar, > and low allergy, the more my oldest son would try > other foods. > > HTH- > > > --- jennkleiber <jennkleiber@...> wrote: > > > Hi- > > Thanks to everyone for all of your help in advance. > > I did buy > > Deceptively Delicious- actually received it in the > > mail yesterday and > > will try to go through that as well- but I am not a > > cook, so making > > substitutions that won't change the flavors and are > > acceptable with > > the diet will be a little difficult. > > Bobby is currently eating corn flakes and a banana > > for breakfast- our > > only 'right' meal. For snack (he's in school all > > day so he has two) > > he has a small bag of pretzels or potato chips, > > maybe oreos (the > > reduced fat ones), lorna doones, maybe another > > banana, cateloupe, > > grapes or an apple- the snacks change everyday, but > > there's always a > > piece or two of fruit and one of the others. For > > lunch when he's in > > school he'll have Ritz crackers with peanut butter > > and a yogurt (soy > > of course). When he gets home from school he has a > > soy pudding (to > > take his meds) and dinner is generally french toast > > (with sugar free > > syrup) or pizza with a replacement cheese. > > Sometimes he'll have > > another banana- one would think all these bananas > > would have > > him 'plugged up' but he's quite regular. We were > > also just told to > > limit fruits to twice a day, so now I don't know > > what to give him, as > > that is his entire diet. Once in a blue moon, and I > > do think the moon > > has to be blue he'll eat a pancake or try what we're > > eating for > > dinner, but generally food hits the floor and we're > > left wondering > > what to do. So that's his diet, cereal, pizza and > > bread and of > > course yogurt! All dairy free and as processed as > > we can get. > > We've tried putting things under the cheese > > sometimes it's a go and > > we jump up and down and other times he catches on > > and spits it all > > out and will eat nothing. He also will only drink > > soy milk- we had > > him on rice milk but he had a rash from it, he will > > not drink any > > water or juice no matter how we disguise it. He's > > also not a big > > drinker, maybe 20 oz a day? Any suggestions are > > appreciated- and I'm > > so glad I'm finally able to post, I've been > > 'posting' for some time, > > but we finally have made it to the site, thanks > > Jenn > > > > > > > > Jenn, > > > > > > What will Bobby easily eat right now? Perhaps we > > can help you > > brainstorm > > > some ideas by starting with what he will eat. I > > totally > > understand your > > > frustration and obsession. We traveled that path > > for many years. > > > Gaylen > > > > > > > > > > > > **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of > > all time on AOL > > Music. > > > > > > (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy? > > NCID=aolcmp003000000025 > > > 48) > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > Never miss a thing. Make your home page. > http://www./r/hs > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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