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Hi Gaylen -

My kids haven't had it - unless my youngest had it

during infancy (I suspected because we'd have to put

him in warm water to get his bladder to empty and get

him to sleep), but he wasn't on SSRIs at the time.

I have times that I lose all sensation and find it

hard to start going but I'm not on any SSRIs. At the

worst time, I would have to set a timer to remind me

to go so I didn't cough and ... well you know. :) lol

It is more connected, for me, w/PANDAS. From what

I've read but don't remember a great deal of, there

are several urinary hormones associated with that too,

and it seems like infections or other metabolic stuff

could affect them too.

Since you've already connected SSRI changes to your

son's problem, I imagine you're right on target and it

is the trigger ... I just wondered if there could be

more to it from the bacterial side. Was the infection

definitely from the retention ... or could it have

triggered it? And does he have high ASO?

Is he otherwise doing great on this SSRI, or have all

of them given him the same problem? I hope it doesn't

end up being the med and he would have to come off of

them.

Best of luck

--- Googahly@... wrote:

> Hi Everyone,

>

> A week or so ago, I recall reading a message or two

> about bladder problems

> when starting or upping SSRIs. This had been a

> common issue with my son but

> seemed to get better a few weeks into the med or new

> dose. Unfortunately,

> with the last increase, he appears to have now lost

> almost all sensation in his

> bladder and isn't going to the bathroom unless

> reminded to do so. He

> developed a bladder infection so the pediatrician

> had him go through some testing

> and we plan to see a urologist next week. The

> testing showed that he has no

> renal problems except that his bladder is mis-shapen

> (something they see in

> extreme cases of retention) and he is unable to

> fully empty his bladder. From

> reading online, I've found that this is a side

> effect of all SSRIs. I also

> found e-mails from a few people that said the

> problem went away a week or so

> after discontinuing the drug or switching to

> another SSRI. Have any of your

> children had this problem?

> Gaylen

>

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We were one of them that had problems with urination when we first

started. I say first started as if it only lasted a week or two but

in reality, it wasn't until we reached 1 1/4 pill of zoloft that it

stopped, which was months before we got there. But he didn't have a

problem with retention, he had a problem with knowing when he needed

to go to the bathroom before he peed in his pants. Now he doesn't

pee in his pants but it was a hard 5 or 6 months for a while. I'm

sure that none of this is any help to you, though. We never had a

bladder infection that I'm aware of so I can't help there, either.

Cheryl

On Feb 3, 2008, at 3:41 PM, Googahly@... wrote:

> Hi Everyone,

>

> A week or so ago, I recall reading a message or two about bladder

> problems

> when starting or upping SSRIs. This had been a common issue with my

> son but

> seemed to get better a few weeks into the med or new dose.

> Unfortunately,

> with the last increase, he appears to have now lost almost all

> sensation in his

> bladder and isn't going to the bathroom unless reminded to do so. He

> developed a bladder infection so the pediatrician had him go

> through some testing

> and we plan to see a urologist next week. The testing showed that

> he has no

> renal problems except that his bladder is mis-shapen (something

> they see in

> extreme cases of retention) and he is unable to fully empty his

> bladder. From

> reading online, I've found that this is a side effect of all SSRIs.

> I also

> found e-mails from a few people that said the problem went away a

> week or so

> after discontinuing the drug or switching to another SSRI. Have any

> of your

> children had this problem?

> Gaylen

>

> **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music.

> (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?

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Hi Gaylen,

Our son, has on and off " frequent urination " , I notice it more when

he's coming down with something. It has gotten better over the years,

but has not completely gone away. No bladder infections when tested.

Please let us know what the Urologist says.

Thanks,

Argie

On Feb 3, 2008, at 4:19 PM, Cheryl Lowrance wrote:

> We were one of them that had problems with urination when we first

> started. I say first started as if it only lasted a week or two but

> in reality, it wasn't until we reached 1 1/4 pill of zoloft that it

> stopped, which was months before we got there. But he didn't have a

> problem with retention, he had a problem with knowing when he needed

> to go to the bathroom before he peed in his pants. Now he doesn't

> pee in his pants but it was a hard 5 or 6 months for a while. I'm

> sure that none of this is any help to you, though. We never had a

> bladder infection that I'm aware of so I can't help there, either.

>

> Cheryl

>

> On Feb 3, 2008, at 3:41 PM, Googahly@... wrote:

>

> > Hi Everyone,

> >

> > A week or so ago, I recall reading a message or two about bladder

> > problems

> > when starting or upping SSRIs. This had been a common issue with my

> > son but

> > seemed to get better a few weeks into the med or new dose.

> > Unfortunately,

> > with the last increase, he appears to have now lost almost all

> > sensation in his

> > bladder and isn't going to the bathroom unless reminded to do so. He

> > developed a bladder infection so the pediatrician had him go

> > through some testing

> > and we plan to see a urologist next week. The testing showed that

> > he has no

> > renal problems except that his bladder is mis-shapen (something

> > they see in

> > extreme cases of retention) and he is unable to fully empty his

> > bladder. From

> > reading online, I've found that this is a side effect of all SSRIs.

> > I also

> > found e-mails from a few people that said the problem went away a

> > week or so

> > after discontinuing the drug or switching to another SSRI. Have any

> > of your

> > children had this problem?

> > Gaylen

> >

> > **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL

> Music.

> > (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?

> > NCID=aolcmp003000000025

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One thing I have noticed in my daughter is that when her yeast seems high she

has excessive urination. It is also a problem every time she has a die off from

anti fungals. We have had her potty trained for 2 years now and she was not

having any problems even at night. She was put on an antibiotic and in a month

or so she began bed wetting. Changed her anti fungal and she wet herself during

the day until she was through die off. We got things under control for a while

and then she started a new anti fungal and she is wetting the bed nightly, she

has problems controlling her urine during the day but now that die off seems to

be fading things seem to be going back to normal. I would say that for my child

it is a yeast thing. Sheri

Argie Olivo <golivo@...> wrote: Hi Gaylen,

Our son, has on and off " frequent urination " , I notice it more when

he's coming down with something. It has gotten better over the years,

but has not completely gone away. No bladder infections when tested.

Please let us know what the Urologist says.

Thanks,

Argie

On Feb 3, 2008, at 4:19 PM, Cheryl Lowrance wrote:

> We were one of them that had problems with urination when we first

> started. I say first started as if it only lasted a week or two but

> in reality, it wasn't until we reached 1 1/4 pill of zoloft that it

> stopped, which was months before we got there. But he didn't have a

> problem with retention, he had a problem with knowing when he needed

> to go to the bathroom before he peed in his pants. Now he doesn't

> pee in his pants but it was a hard 5 or 6 months for a while. I'm

> sure that none of this is any help to you, though. We never had a

> bladder infection that I'm aware of so I can't help there, either.

>

> Cheryl

>

> On Feb 3, 2008, at 3:41 PM, Googahly@... wrote:

>

> > Hi Everyone,

> >

> > A week or so ago, I recall reading a message or two about bladder

> > problems

> > when starting or upping SSRIs. This had been a common issue with my

> > son but

> > seemed to get better a few weeks into the med or new dose.

> > Unfortunately,

> > with the last increase, he appears to have now lost almost all

> > sensation in his

> > bladder and isn't going to the bathroom unless reminded to do so. He

> > developed a bladder infection so the pediatrician had him go

> > through some testing

> > and we plan to see a urologist next week. The testing showed that

> > he has no

> > renal problems except that his bladder is mis-shapen (something

> > they see in

> > extreme cases of retention) and he is unable to fully empty his

> > bladder. From

> > reading online, I've found that this is a side effect of all SSRIs.

> > I also

> > found e-mails from a few people that said the problem went away a

> > week or so

> > after discontinuing the drug or switching to another SSRI. Have any

> > of your

> > children had this problem?

> > Gaylen

> >

> > **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL

> Music.

> > (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?

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Our son did have frequent urination for the first week or two upon introduction

to the SSRI. We see it start up everytime an increase is done as well. Aside

from noticing this, because our son is extremely ocd he tends to hold his

bladder until he really really has to go. We see him bolt to the bathroom since

he waits to long to go because he doesn't want to stop with whatever he is

obsessing on.

>From: Googahly@...

>Date: 2008/02/03 Sun PM 05:41:23 CST

>

>Subject: SSRIs & bladder retention

>

>Hi Everyone,

>

>A week or so ago, I recall reading a message or two about bladder problems

>when starting or upping SSRIs. This had been a common issue with my son but

>seemed to get better a few weeks into the med or new dose. Unfortunately,

>with the last increase, he appears to have now lost almost all sensation in

his

>bladder and isn't going to the bathroom unless reminded to do so. He

>developed a bladder infection so the pediatrician had him go through some

testing

>and we plan to see a urologist next week. The testing showed that he has no

>renal problems except that his bladder is mis-shapen (something they see in

>extreme cases of retention) and he is unable to fully empty his bladder. From

>reading online, I've found that this is a side effect of all SSRIs. I also

>found e-mails from a few people that said the problem went away a week or so

>after discontinuing the drug or switching to another SSRI. Have any of your

>children had this problem?

>Gaylen

>

>**************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music.

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Celexa caused my son to wet the bed at night after he had been dry for years.

We had questioned whether it was a med he was on, but were able to confirm it

when we switched to prozac. No more bed-wetting. (We were on celexa for 2 yrs

and we just put " night pants " on him) In retrospect, he often would have to

" run " to the bathroom at times, as if he had waited until too late. Maybe it IS

that they lose the sensation to go when on certain SSRI's.

HTH,

Ellen

SSRIs & bladder retention

Hi Everyone,

A week or so ago, I recall reading a message or two about bladder problems

when starting or upping SSRIs. This had been a common issue with my son but

seemed to get better a few weeks into the med or new dose. Unfortunately,

with the last increase, he appears to have now lost almost all sensation in

his

bladder and isn't going to the bathroom unless reminded to do so. He

developed a bladder infection so the pediatrician had him go through some

testing

and we plan to see a urologist next week. The testing showed that he has no

renal problems except that his bladder is mis-shapen (something they see in

extreme cases of retention) and he is unable to fully empty his bladder. From

reading online, I've found that this is a side effect of all SSRIs. I also

found e-mails from a few people that said the problem went away a week or so

after discontinuing the drug or switching to another SSRI. Have any of your

children had this problem?

Gaylen

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