Guest guest Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 What would be the best way to find a practitioner that does both urine and plasma amino acid testing?  Thank you Strobel  Subject: Targeted Amino Acid Therapy: Re: The Epidemic of Mental Illness - brain[ti] AND plasticity[ti] - amino acids To: csb-autism-rx Date: Sunday, June 12, 2011, 9:22 PM  Thank you so much, ! You are the best!!! Ellin > > Correcting nutrient imbalances in response to plasma and urinary amino > acid profiles has a long history, with good results in some autistic > children. > > Improving appropriate brain-plasticity is the goal. Correcting nutrient > imbalance seems generally better approach than using pharmacological > modifiers of brain function. > > TAAT used to be referred to as " child-specific amino supplementation " > and was based upon " plasma and urinary amino acid profiles " . > > > > see: > > http://www.mtenergie.com/docs/tcu%20abstract.pdf > > http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-2214.2010.01193.x/abstract > > http://www.neurogistics.com/TheScience/AminoAcids.asp > > > see also: > > Metabolic approaches to the treatment of autism spectrum disorders. > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11098885> > Page T. > J Autism Dev Disord. 2000 Oct;30(5):463-9. > > Altered amino acid excretion in children with autism. > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18510798> > C, RH, Rothkirch T, TK, Reichelt KL, Cosford R, > Deed G, Ellis LB, Sparkes DL. > Nutr Neurosci. 2008 Feb;11(1):9-17. > Plasma amino acids profiles in children with autism: potential risk of > nutritional deficiencies. <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12959424> > Arnold GL, Hyman SL, Mooney RA, Kirby RS. > J Autism Dev Disord. 2003 Aug;33(4):449-54. > > Plasma amino acid levels in children with autism and their families. > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12708584> > Aldred S, KM, Fitzgerald M, Waring RH. > J Autism Dev Disord. 2003 Feb;33(1):93-7 > > see also: > > Removing brakes on adult brain plasticity: from molecular to behavioral > interventions. <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21068299> > Bavelier D, Levi DM, Li RW, Dan Y, Hensch TK. > J Neurosci. 2010 Nov 10;30(45):14964-71. > > Music making as a tool for promoting brain plasticity across the life > span. <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20889966> > Wan CY, Schlaug G. > Neuroscientist. 2010 Oct;16(5):566-77. > > Epigenetic influences on brain development and plasticity. > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19545993> > Fagiolini M, Jensen CL, Champagne FA. > Curr Opin Neurobiol. 2009 Apr;19(2):207-12. > > Using non-invasive brain stimulation to augment motor training-induced > plasticity. <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19292910> > Bolognini N, Pascual-Leone A, Fregni F. > J Neuroeng Rehabil. 2009 Mar 17;6:8. > > Exercising your brain: a review of human brain plasticity and > training-induced learning. <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19140641> > Green CS, Bavelier D. > Psychol Aging. 2008 Dec;23(4):692-701. > > Plasticity and injury in the developing brain. > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18490122> > ston MV, Ishida A, Ishida WN, Matsushita HB, Nishimura A, Tsuji M. > Brain Dev. 2009 Jan;31(1):1-10. > > > Re: The Epidemic of Mental Illness: Why? by Marcia Angell | The New > Posted by: " redellin1 " redellin1@... redellin1 > Date: Sat Jun 11, 2011 9:20 pm ((PDT)) > > , thank you for posting this very interesting article (and all the > very helpful articles you share!). > > The article, in part, discusses the ways in which being on some of these > psychopharmaceuticals can damage the brain, including making it > dependent on the medications on what sounds like a permament basis. > > I am wondering if more natural interventions like Targeted Amino Acid > Therapy (TAAT), which is generally offered through either Neurogistics > or NeuroScience, would also result in a dysfunctional brain, even though > the goal is to balance the neurotransmitters that are out of whack. > (Excuse my very unscientific language!) > > If you could share any feedback, I would be grateful. > > Thank you very much, > > Ellin > > > > > > > > . > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 , it's my understanding that there are two primary places that offer this in the U.S.: Neurogistics or NeuroScience. From what I've read though, this kind of testing and use of targeted amino acid therapy (TAAT) is much more common in Europe. Neurogistics is willing to work with families directly. I believe that they have a social worker on staff who does the intakes, etc. For kids who are very orally defensive and struggle with taking oral supplements, I think that they have creme formulations of many of their supplements that can be applied to an area of the skin that is thinner, e.g. behind the knee. Here is Neurogistics' link: http://www.neurogistics.com/index.asp NeuroScience is the older program (the head of Neurogistics used to work at NeuroScience), but they will not work directly with families. Therefore, you have to work with your DAN! doctor, homeopath, naturopath, etc. who will serve as the professional liaison with them. Here is the link for NeuroScience: https://www.neurorelief.com/index.php?p=home I have no connection with either business but know quite a few families who have used (TAAT) with good results. I'm contemplating trying this with my daughter and have an appointment coming up with our naturopathic doctor. Ellin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 HI, My training as a DAN MD indicates looking at urine neuro transmitters is not helpful as we have 2 brains. the first is in ones head and the other is in the gut. The gut produces much more neurotransmitters than the brain in the head. So neurotransmitters would be hard to decipher as to which source. Thoughts? Regards Doug Hulstedt MD I use oat andsometimes will rx pan amino acids for apparent deficiencies. ________________________________ To: csb-autism-rx Sent: Mon, June 13, 2011 8:16:09 AM Subject: Targeted Amino Acid Therapy: Re: The Epidemic of Mental Illness - brain[ti] AND plasticity[ti] - amino acids  , it's my understanding that there are two primary places that offer this in the U.S.: Neurogistics or NeuroScience. From what I've read though, this kind of testing and use of targeted amino acid therapy (TAAT) is much more common in Europe. Neurogistics is willing to work with families directly. I believe that they have a social worker on staff who does the intakes, etc. For kids who are very orally defensive and struggle with taking oral supplements, I think that they have creme formulations of many of their supplements that can be applied to an area of the skin that is thinner, e.g. behind the knee. Here is Neurogistics' link: http://www.neurogistics.com/index.asp NeuroScience is the older program (the head of Neurogistics used to work at NeuroScience), but they will not work directly with families. Therefore, you have to work with your DAN! doctor, homeopath, naturopath, etc. who will serve as the professional liaison with them. Here is the link for NeuroScience: https://www.neurorelief.com/index.php?p=home I have no connection with either business but know quite a few families who have used (TAAT) with good results. I'm contemplating trying this with my daughter and have an appointment coming up with our naturopathic doctor. Ellin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 Thank you Ellin for all your information and help! Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry Targeted Amino Acid Therapy: Re: The Epidemic of Mental Illness - brain[ti] AND plasticity[ti] - amino acids , it's my understanding that there are two primary places that offer this in the U.S.: Neurogistics or NeuroScience. From what I've read though, this kind of testing and use of targeted amino acid therapy (TAAT) is much more common in Europe. Neurogistics is willing to work with families directly. I believe that they have a social worker on staff who does the intakes, etc. For kids who are very orally defensive and struggle with taking oral supplements, I think that they have creme formulations of many of their supplements that can be applied to an area of the skin that is thinner, e.g. behind the knee. Here is Neurogistics' link: http://www.neurogistics.com/index.asp NeuroScience is the older program (the head of Neurogistics used to work at NeuroScience), but they will not work directly with families. Therefore, you have to work with your DAN! doctor, homeopath, naturopath, etc. who will serve as the professional liaison with them. Here is the link for NeuroScience: https://www.neurorelief.com/index.php?p=home I have no connection with either business but know quite a few families who have used (TAAT) with good results. I'm contemplating trying this with my daughter and have an appointment coming up with our naturopathic doctor. Ellin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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