Oh, I know, where you are coming from. Sometimes nothing helps, this wild ride we are on with our systems is so terrifying sometimes. I believe that once one thing, the stomach the asthma, or even the sinuses, gets upset, they all kick in, at least

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Oh, I know, where you are coming from. Sometimes nothing helps, this wild ride we are on with our systems is so terrifying sometimes. I believe that once one thing, the stomach the asthma, or even the sinuses, gets upset, they all kick in, at least that is my experience, it can go up from the stomach, or down from the sinuses, either way, it can be so miserable, and so much harder now days to get under control, like I said, really scary sometimes, I have sinusitis,allergies, lots of those, asthma, Hiatal hernia, gastric banding, Gastropheresis, did I spell that right, LOL, let's see did I forget anything? Each year there seems to be something else added to all of those, I wonder do they do replacement of stomach's, I wouldn't think so, maybe to risky, with all of the nerves and veins there, very dodgy, I would

think. To: asthma Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 3:49 PM Subject: Re: willothewisp

Unfortunately my health is severe enough to require the aid of both steroid inhalers and tablets, so I have no choice. I would love not to take either, or some of the other horrible medication I'm forced to devour daily. But I have no choice.

I do take them with food and plenty of water but the side effects still create problems, both by themselves and via interactions with other drugs. Again, I have no choice.

Without them I would be dead in about a week or two, personally I'd rather not make that choice!

Cheers from Mike (Chip) Chapman

Cornwall. UK

Subject: Re: ipratropium bromideTo: asthma Date: Friday, 20 January, 2012, 19:57

Chip, was it you who mentioned a while back finding a nasal spray that worked for chronic runny nose? I'm having a worse than ever problem with that and already know neither Nasalcrom nor Nasocort does anything for it. I can't remember the name of the med that was mentioned as being effective, but I'm seeing my pulmo next week and would like to try it if I could get hold of the right name to ask for.Sorry I can't help with respect to ipratropium or Spiriva. I use Symbicort, which has both a long-acting bronchodilator and a corticosteroid. It's similar to Advair, which in your part of the woods has a different name, but it uses altogether different LABA and steroid from Symbicort . Have you ever tried a combination inhaler like these, or would the mucous still be a factor in your absorbing the med? Symbicort comes as a liquid metered dose which is propelled forcefully from a cannister and inhaled through the mouth. It is not a "rescue

inhaler".Slats> > > > Subject: Re: Reflux, asthma or both?

iptatroprium bromide> To: "asthma " <asthma >> Date: Friday, 20 January, 2012, 16:43> > > >  > > > > > > Madeline, what med are you using to replace the iptatroprium bromide? I hope you are feeling better. >  > I was on Combivent for about 6 months. >  > They kept trying to tell me I had relfux but none of the reflux meds really helped. I never had > reflux before I started the iptatroprium bromide (I also used it in neb the duo neb mixture).> My doctors did not make the

connection, I did thanks to this board! I stopped taking the > Combivent switched to the Spiriva on my own. >  > For some reason I am not having the stomach issues with the Spiriva. >  > My belching and bloating has stopped. I actually had attacks where my stomach would bloat, > I would burp, regurgitate, no be able to breath, my face, neck and chest would flush. >  > My stomach is slowly returning to normal I can eat almost everything I was able to before.>  > Although I think my migraine meds (midrin and fiorinol) make my stomach symptoms worse.>  > One thing I did notice when I was having stomach issues it seemed to worsen my breathing. >  > Lynne>  >  > > > > > > > To: "asthma " <asthma > > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 8:39 PM> Subject: Re: Reflux, asthma or both?> > > >  > > > Hi lady.  Is he taking Atrovent (iptatroprium bromide) or Spiriva?  Is he complaining of nausea or vomiting?  While reflux can worsen asthma symptoms, another lesser looked at issue is gastroparesis.  The only reason this comes to mind is that I have recently been diagnosed with gastroparesis.  Atrovent, Spiriva, and any other drug that works by relaxing smooth muscle walls can cause this.  Belching is a common

symptom of gastroparesis while it is not generally associated with GERD. Â Not wanting to cloud the issue, but it is a possible cause. Â > > > Madeline> > > > > > > To: asthma > Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 9:11 AM> Subject: Reflux, asthma or both?> > > > Â > > My nine year old has had a worsening of his asthma in the past two months. Started with a virus that triggered a bad flare. Doctor started him on inhaled corticosteroids which seems to be helping some but not enough. He's having allergy testing in two weeks since it's been a long time since he's been tested. We'll see if anything new comes up.

With the past several attacks during the night, he is burping a few times after the attack is over. Does this sound like reflux, or is he burping from overinflated lungs pressing on stomach? I have never had burping with asthma attacks myself. Of course, I will discuss this with his doctor too.>