Guest guest Posted March 9, 2006 Report Share Posted March 9, 2006 " " I've seen no meaningful discussions on 'hey you know, 25+ shots before they enter kindergarten sounds awfully high to me ....' " " Good point Doris.... there seems to be some strange link that the increase numbers of vaccines since the early 90's = the increase in mercury in our kids and therefore = the increase of ASD kids... The same correlation can be made with the increase in number of shots containing virus's and derivations thereof of the same time period. What might these do in a child with a compromised immune system from the outset? Many children with ASD have not received any injections.... so there most likely must be other environmental triggers for some kids. Take Hep B for example... it was mandatorily given at birth...I'm sure I've read somewhere that it's never been tested in kids under 12! (stand to be corrected). I also recall reading that Hep B and CMV don't go together - there is a reaction and a mutation of some sort..can't find that reference at the moment so if someone has it would be grateful to find that link. I believe that Hep B has been quietly taken of the mandatory list for injection at birth by the CDC around the same time as mercury was withdrawn......what if Hep B were more of a culprit than suspected....what if that is the reason that Geir and Geir reported last week what amounts to be a slight drop in the rate of increase in new cases using two databases? Some states have not reported such....maybe it is these states that still mandate Hep B at birth... just hypothesizing but there is a lot more to this than meets the eye.. Re: Re: neuroimmune research Jin I am glad your son is doing well under Dr Goldberg's care. Dr G is definitely against adding in alternative medicine into the medication routine for a child under his care. If you are adding in alternative medicines you should make him aware of this. But I will tell you he will tell you how strongly he feels that there is no place for alternative meds in the form of megavitamins, megaaminos, chelation, hyperbaric oxygen therapy. In fact, you will note some of the flaming posts from the moderator indicates promoting alternative meds on this board is not tolerated. I understand you feel very strongly about supporting Dr Bruce (Phd) and alternative medicines, and I respect you as a person trying to help your child, that really is wonderful. I wish only the best to you and your child. Good Luck and God Bless jinyang061629 <yanglou@...> wrote: I went to a Dan doctor for about two year before I finally went to Dr. Goldberg, because there is no main stream MD will take on his approach, and many parents I spoke to did not think Dr. Goldberg's protocol is a viable alternative. Dr. Globerg's protocol like it or not, is also considered to be an alternative method to main stream medicine which basically does nothing to help. In you first post, because there were some terms in Dr. Bruce's profile you do not like, you were basically tell people Dr. Bruce must be some kind of Con doctor. I think you are doing a dis-service to group members who can not fly to see Dr. Goldberg, but may be able to get help from Dr. Bruce. I also think that you are unfair to Dr. Bruce. Dr. Bruce is based in Texas, and was working at NY Clinic. His son was a Dr Goldberg's patient. There are parents in this group have been seeing him, or planning to see him. Especially those live at north east and south east corner of the country. I have not heard any complaint, but from time to time, I have read that he helped some family greatly. My suggestion for you is call him up, like you did with Dr. Goldberg, do some more in depth research, before you form your opinions. You can find his number from NY clinic: http://www.nidsnnyclinic.org/id1.html Just give you some background. My son is doing quite well under Dr. Goldberg's care, he is a six grader, has more then one best friends, on 98/99% nationally on math and reading, and had just took SAT for gifted children, and just got Brown belts for TKD. By the way, I went to a Dan Doctor for two years before we start see Dr. Goldberg. Althrough I do not agree with Dan doctor's approach, but I am not going to stand here and telling people that Dan doctors are con doctors. There are kids helped greatly by Dan doctors. Jin >>> > just fyi - there is a new group for discussion of >> >> >> neuroimmune > > >>> > issues called 'neuroendocrineimmune'. It is an informal list >> >> for >>> > people interested in the discussion of all " aspects of >>> > NeuroEndocrineImmune issues and CNDS (Chronic >>> > NeuroendocrineimmuDysfunction Syndrome) -- whether specific to >> >> ASD >> or > > >>> > not... " (from the homepage.) My understanding is that the focus >> >> >> will > > >>> > be on current research. >>> > >>> > fwiw, >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2006 Report Share Posted March 9, 2006 Doris, I completely agree with you. We have climbed the ladder for 12 years and Dr. G is at the top. Thanks, Ellie Re: Re: neuroimmune research Jin I am glad your son is doing well under Dr Goldberg's care. Dr G is definitely against adding in alternative medicine into the medication routine for a child under his care. If you are adding in alternative medicines you should make him aware of this. But I will tell you he will tell you how strongly he feels that there is no place for alternative meds in the form of megavitamins, megaaminos, chelation, hyperbaric oxygen therapy. In fact, you will note some of the flaming posts from the moderator indicates promoting alternative meds on this board is not tolerated. I understand you feel very strongly about supporting Dr Bruce (Phd) and alternative medicines, and I respect you as a person trying to help your child, that really is wonderful. I wish only the best to you and your child. Good Luck and God Bless jinyang061629 <yanglou@...> wrote: I went to a Dan doctor for about two year before I finally went to Dr. Goldberg, because there is no main stream MD will take on his approach, and many parents I spoke to did not think Dr. Goldberg's protocol is a viable alternative. Dr. Globerg's protocol like it or not, is also considered to be an alternative method to main stream medicine which basically does nothing to help. In you first post, because there were some terms in Dr. Bruce's profile you do not like, you were basically tell people Dr. Bruce must be some kind of Con doctor. I think you are doing a dis-service to group members who can not fly to see Dr. Goldberg, but may be able to get help from Dr. Bruce. I also think that you are unfair to Dr. Bruce. Dr. Bruce is based in Texas, and was working at NY Clinic. His son was a Dr Goldberg's patient. There are parents in this group have been seeing him, or planning to see him. Especially those live at north east and south east corner of the country. I have not heard any complaint, but from time to time, I have read that he helped some family greatly. My suggestion for you is call him up, like you did with Dr. Goldberg, do some more in depth research, before you form your opinions. You can find his number from NY clinic: http://www.nidsnnyclinic.org/id1.html Just give you some background. My son is doing quite well under Dr. Goldberg's care, he is a six grader, has more then one best friends, on 98/99% nationally on math and reading, and had just took SAT for gifted children, and just got Brown belts for TKD. By the way, I went to a Dan Doctor for two years before we start see Dr. Goldberg. Althrough I do not agree with Dan doctor's approach, but I am not going to stand here and telling people that Dan doctors are con doctors. There are kids helped greatly by Dan doctors. Jin >>> > just fyi - there is a new group for discussion of >> >> >> neuroimmune > > >>> > issues called 'neuroendocrineimmune'. It is an informal list >> >> for >>> > people interested in the discussion of all " aspects of >>> > NeuroEndocrineImmune issues and CNDS (Chronic >>> > NeuroendocrineimmuDysfunction Syndrome) -- whether specific to >> >> ASD >> or > > >>> > not... " (from the homepage.) My understanding is that the focus >> >> >> will > > >>> > be on current research. >>> > >>> > fwiw, >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2006 Report Share Posted March 11, 2006 My husband & I are seriously considering starting our 2 1/2 year old with Dr Goldberg. Could you all share with us your child's experience with him please? It's always good to hear what other parents have seen happen firsthand with their kids. You can email me directly, if you'd like. Thanks a lot- --- Jandjatindy@... wrote: > Doris, I loved reading your post, it was exactly > what I was feeling. After a > 15 year journey (the last 3 with Dr. G.), we are > seeing the light at the end > of the tunnel. I am just so thankful that we are > patients of Dr. G's. > Joni > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 : Hep B vaccine is more of a culprit than suspected. When I graduated college I obtained employment in a Group Home assisting the Challenged. I was forced to have the Hep B shots; a series of 3. I was totally ignorant of any health related problem that I had and I had a few. Well that set my C.F.S. off unbelievably. My alpha interferon went sky high and who knows how long I walked around like that OR how high it was prior to receiving that Hep B vaccine. A few years later I had my daughter. I know this is a problem that must be addressed. I believe what Dr. Goldberg believes as per the vaccinations being secondary causes & all, but I do know that these were NOT tested as promised. And I remember Dr. Goldberg's presentation on vaccinations in land.... he stated that regardless of size/weight every human being rec'd same dosage of shot !! Dr. Goldberg addressed his concerns regarding this on numerous occasions during his seminars. Just wanted to express that I agree wholeheartedly with you, , that there is more to this that meets the eye !! Michele Cerruto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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