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It may be a good time to see if she could learn to

swallow pills... for the motivation that she won't

have to taste the medicine. Telling her if she can

" put it in her tummy " by swallowing (model it for her

with your meds or a Tylenol)... my kids shocked me at

age 4 & 2 1/2 ... they were sick of the nasty tasting

meds, and I just happened to casually mention this,

and they blew my mind by trying it right then and

there. I was real perky and casual about it. But

when my oldest picked up a pill and swallowed it right

then and there, I went nuts, screaming and jumping up

and down, which my 2 1/2 year old thought was funny

and wanted to do too, which he did. You could even

get hubby to " watch " you do it, have him get all

excited that you did it, and see if that motivates her

to try too.

Just a thought. I would never have thought my kids

would do it, so I throw that out there for others to

try too. Try with any acceptable pill... an

acidophilus, whatever may be a right size - before you

go thru the trouble of getting an antibiotic in pill

form only to find that she won't/can't do it yet.

Be sure to give Acidophilus - especially with those

bad gut infections. Just be sure to give it two hours

prior or after (I prefer after) you give antibiotics,

or the antibiotic may kill the good acidophilus.

Also, giving gelatin (I boil chickens w/their bones,

or beef bones & oxtails with onions, celery, carrots,

bay leaf, thyme for chicken or beef broth w/gelatin -

the store-bought does not have gelatin) either in food

form or capsule is supposed to help the GI, and

certainly won't hurt... I tried it for myself during

some bad tummy upset periods and do think it may have

helped. Doesn't hurt, though, and actually makes

great roasts, soups, etc. You can actually nourish a

child ok for a day or two if their stomach is real

upset and they won't eat... providing you can get them

to drink it or eat it as 'soup'.

I wonder why the only time I've ever had UTIs was

during and right after an initial strep throat

infection. I don't know anything about e coli though,

bless your heart!

--- we3philipsons <we3philipsons@...> wrote:

> Hi folks.

>

> Our 4yo girl was dx with a UTI a week and a half

> ago, for which the

> gave us Sulfameth-trimeth/ grape flavored (gen.

> Bactrim). Then dd and

> I went to visit my mother out-of-state because hubby

> was laid-out with

> an upper respiratory infection (as was I), but I was

> ambulatory enough

> to drive us away to get some help.

>

> Back to the bactrim...Well, no-way, no-how would she

> take the stuff.

> Sooo.. after returning home, I called drs office and

> asked for another

> anti-biotic and discovered our daughter also has a

> strep infection, as

> well as an e coli infection.

>

> The drs. office prescribed AMox-Clav (gen.

> Augmentin). She drank this

> just fine. Unfortunately, 12 hours after starting

> this dd began to

> have diarrhea. Not just loose stools, but straight

> water. This has

> gone on for three days. (Projectile diarrhea!)

>

> I've called the drs. again and we're going to try

> the bactrim again,

> without flavors this time.

>

> Any thoughts on this? I think we've been living with

> strep for a long

> time--might be related to her low-grade fevers.

>

> AND we're visiting a ped.

> immunologist/allergist/researcher tomorrow,

> armed with a notebook of research and a request

> for the tests.

> Hopefully we'll move forward on this!

>

> Shanna Philipson

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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There is a ton of info on this group about strep issues. Do a

search for past messeges on strep and do one for Pandas' (this is a

strep related thing also.

I can tell you alot about UTI as I used to have it constantly and I

can also tell you that the first course of bactrim they gave me has

never worked to clear it up and I'd always be back in for some kind

of other anti-biotic...and I'd be back again several times a year

until I learned the following.

UTI infections usually are e-coli infections that keep happening

because the child has a yeast infection that encourages growth of

the e-coli...and they have a lack of healthy bacteria in the body

(ie acidophilus type products at the health food store or live

cultures in yogurt..but, make sure that you get low sugar -no corn

syrup and only fruit flavored yogurt as sugar feeds the bacteria.

And avoid cranberry juice with a high sugar content. Then find a

good MD who is also versed in natural medicine-they are usually more

willing to prescribe long term courses of anti-fungal/ anti-yeast

drugs such as Diflucan. She needs a long term course of this...not

just a one day pill as is so often given.

I've found a product that I had used to help treat my own UTI's.

Though, I seldom feel like I'm getting one anymore. I don't know

how this would work for a child though. So, I'll let you ask your

doc. It was just a mixture that includes Uva Ursi and a few other

ingredients that discourage e-coli and then I take cranberry pills

and high vitamin C.

Remember that antibiotics are what give yeast infections in the

first place. Though, sometimes they are necessary...always insist

that a doctor give something for yeast after a course of them.

--- In , " we3philipsons " <we3philipsons@...>

wrote:

>

> Hi folks.

>

> Our 4yo girl was dx with a UTI a week and a half ago, for which the

> gave us Sulfameth-trimeth/ grape flavored (gen. Bactrim). Then dd

and

> I went to visit my mother out-of-state because hubby was laid-out

with

> an upper respiratory infection (as was I), but I was ambulatory

enough

> to drive us away to get some help.

>

> Back to the bactrim...Well, no-way, no-how would she take the

stuff.

> Sooo.. after returning home, I called drs office and asked for

another

> anti-biotic and discovered our daughter also has a strep

infection, as

> well as an e coli infection.

>

> The drs. office prescribed AMox-Clav (gen. Augmentin). She drank

this

> just fine. Unfortunately, 12 hours after starting this dd began to

> have diarrhea. Not just loose stools, but straight water. This has

> gone on for three days. (Projectile diarrhea!)

>

> I've called the drs. again and we're going to try the bactrim

again,

> without flavors this time.

>

> Any thoughts on this? I think we've been living with strep for a

long

> time--might be related to her low-grade fevers.

>

> AND we're visiting a ped. immunologist/allergist/researcher

tomorrow,

> armed with a notebook of research and a request for the tests.

> Hopefully we'll move forward on this!

>

> Shanna Philipson

>

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Oh, yes. Also, I worry about a child having UTI because it is so

painful. So, you didn't mention this. But , I hope that you are

also asking for the pill that turns their urine orange but,

relieves the pain on urination. I forget what it's called.

--- In , " we3philipsons " <we3philipsons@...>

wrote:

>

> Hi folks.

>

> Our 4yo girl was dx with a UTI a week and a half ago, for which the

> gave us Sulfameth-trimeth/ grape flavored (gen. Bactrim). Then dd

and

> I went to visit my mother out-of-state because hubby was laid-out

with

> an upper respiratory infection (as was I), but I was ambulatory

enough

> to drive us away to get some help.

>

> Back to the bactrim...Well, no-way, no-how would she take the

stuff.

> Sooo.. after returning home, I called drs office and asked for

another

> anti-biotic and discovered our daughter also has a strep

infection, as

> well as an e coli infection.

>

> The drs. office prescribed AMox-Clav (gen. Augmentin). She drank

this

> just fine. Unfortunately, 12 hours after starting this dd began to

> have diarrhea. Not just loose stools, but straight water. This has

> gone on for three days. (Projectile diarrhea!)

>

> I've called the drs. again and we're going to try the bactrim

again,

> without flavors this time.

>

> Any thoughts on this? I think we've been living with strep for a

long

> time--might be related to her low-grade fevers.

>

> AND we're visiting a ped. immunologist/allergist/researcher

tomorrow,

> armed with a notebook of research and a request for the tests.

> Hopefully we'll move forward on this!

>

> Shanna Philipson

>

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I think you need a new doctor. Augmentin really isn't prescribed

for UTI infections anyways. I'm trying to think of the one that

worked best for me and I can't remember because it's been so long

since I needed one. It was a dual spectrum anti-biotic. I'll try

to look it up. Be sure to add alot of probiotics and something to

prevent yeast. If you can't get something prescription look over

the counter for something like candida clear by NOW Brand.--Then

adjust the dosage for a child.

--- In , " we3philipsons " <we3philipsons@...>

wrote:

>

> Hi folks.

>

> Our 4yo girl was dx with a UTI a week and a half ago, for which the

> gave us Sulfameth-trimeth/ grape flavored (gen. Bactrim). Then dd

and

> I went to visit my mother out-of-state because hubby was laid-out

with

> an upper respiratory infection (as was I), but I was ambulatory

enough

> to drive us away to get some help.

>

> Back to the bactrim...Well, no-way, no-how would she take the

stuff.

> Sooo.. after returning home, I called drs office and asked for

another

> anti-biotic and discovered our daughter also has a strep

infection, as

> well as an e coli infection.

>

> The drs. office prescribed AMox-Clav (gen. Augmentin). She drank

this

> just fine. Unfortunately, 12 hours after starting this dd began to

> have diarrhea. Not just loose stools, but straight water. This has

> gone on for three days. (Projectile diarrhea!)

>

> I've called the drs. again and we're going to try the bactrim

again,

> without flavors this time.

>

> Any thoughts on this? I think we've been living with strep for a

long

> time--might be related to her low-grade fevers.

>

> AND we're visiting a ped. immunologist/allergist/researcher

tomorrow,

> armed with a notebook of research and a request for the tests.

> Hopefully we'll move forward on this!

>

> Shanna Philipson

>

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