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I am new to . Can someone tell me when the SPECT scans are usually done in

the treatment timeline? Are they done as an initial baseline and then repeated

later? Thanks.

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Angie,

Sometimes Dr. Goldberg starts out wanting one right away, sometimes not. I

guess it depends on the particular case. If you are traveling from far

away, you could do what we did, which was to mention that we¹d be happy to

come a day early to get that done since we were making the trip (this was

the day before our son¹s initial visit).

Caroline

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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 22:03:46 -0700 (PDT)

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I am new to . Can someone tell me when the SPECT scans are usually done

in the treatment timeline? Are they done as an initial baseline and then

repeated later? Thanks.

Angie

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As people have already said, it just depends. Some don't get spect

scans until much later when dr. G feels he is missing something.

Some get them right away and they are usually the more difficult

cases - especially the ones that have multiple health issues.

We've been seeing Dr. G for a year and a half now and he ordered one

for us yet at all. I asked him about it at our initial appointment

and he told me then that he generally doesn't do them right off the

bat anymore. He waits to see how the treatment goes first. He said

he's seen so many of them that he knows what they will look like

already and only needs to do them when he feels he needs more info.

cheryl

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> baseline and then repeated later? Thanks.

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My son has been with Dr. G since Oct 2002 and has never had a SPECT scan.

- in Mobile, AL

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the treatment timeline? Are they done as an initial baseline and then repeated

later? Thanks.

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I believe he decides that on a case-by-case basis. With my younger son, we

needed a neurospect scan because his history was somewhat confusing and some

things just didn't fit. In addition, he has a seizure disorder and another

neurological disorder called Cyclical Vomiting Syndrome. Dr. G felt he needed a

more complete picture of what was going on, so he ordered the neurospect scan on

our first visit. My other son is starting with him soon and I really don't

expect him to order one for him.

HTH,

Robyn

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My son has been with Dr. G since Oct 2002 and has never had a SPECT

scan.

- in Mobile, AL

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SPECT scans

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the treatment timeline? Are they done as an initial baseline and then repeated

later? Thanks.

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Dr. G ordered my son's spect scan only after I asked about it 3 or 4 times.

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My son has been with Dr. G since Oct 2002 and has never had a SPECT scan.

- in Mobile, AL

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SPECT scans

I am new to . Can someone tell me when the SPECT scans are usually

done in the treatment timeline? Are they done as an initial baseline and

then repeated later? Thanks.

Angie

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> Dr. G ordered my son's spect scan only after I asked about it 3 or

4 times.

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SPECT scan.

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> - in Mobile, AL

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> Wonderwegian

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> SPECT scans

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> I am new to . Can someone tell me when the SPECT scans are

usually

> done in the treatment timeline? Are they done as an initial

baseline and

> then repeated later? Thanks.

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> Angie

Does anyone know anything about the risk of the SPECT Scan someone

mentioned on the valtrex they would not do this to their child.

Carole

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I don't think Dr. G orders it for all patients. With my mild/mod son, we did one

right away. I think it was because he had other neuro issues and a very

contradictory medical history. With my other Asperger's son, we haven't had one

yet.

HTH,

Robyn

chocolatiluv <chocolatiluv@...> wrote:

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4 times.

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> My son has been with Dr. G since Oct 2002 and has never had a

SPECT scan.

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> - in Mobile, AL

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> __________________________

> Reality lies beyond the horizon...

> Wonderwegian

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> SPECT scans

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> I am new to . Can someone tell me when the SPECT scans are

usually

> done in the treatment timeline? Are they done as an initial

baseline and

> then repeated later? Thanks.

>

> Angie

Does anyone know anything about the risk of the SPECT Scan someone

mentioned on the valtrex they would not do this to their child.

Carole

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, that is great that your child was helped by HBOT, but sometimes it can

be harmful to kids and it doesn't address every medical issue our children may

have. For instance, what about viral reactivation? You can really hurt a

child. I would not gamble with my child's brain with expensive HBOT.

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hospital., jr blind and others. My daughter was treated in 1991 for sz and

completely recovered. I have been in this field for over 15 years and have never

had a child or adult have sz because of HBOT, Rather the reverse, the sz

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What does address every medical issue are children may have?

In a message dated 27/08/2009 14:10:32 GMT Daylight Time,

jlhank80@... writes:

, that is great that your child was helped by HBOT, but sometimes it

can be harmful to kids and it doesn't address every medical issue our

children may have. For instance, what about viral reactivation? You can really

hurt a child. I would not gamble with my child's brain with expensive HBOT.

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CHOC hospital., jr blind and others. My daughter was treated in 1991 for sz

and completely recovered. I have been in this field for over 15 years and

have never had a child or adult have sz because of HBOT, Rather the reverse,

the sz disappear.

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Sorry, I didnt say that right. I know there is no ONE THING that addresses all

of our kids issues, but I wanted to express that while I am not doubting that

HBOT works for some kids, there are some risks involved, which I wasn't aware of

until I talked to some people who sad it gave their kids tics or behavior

problems. WE never hear about risks, it get presented as this magic bullet for

kids with ASD and it is not. I couldnt afford it or I would have done it in a

second 2 years ago! Now I am so glad I am broke :-D

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The SPECT scans on a lot of these kids who've had HBOT are not normal, too,

which is a little scary. Too much perfusion! Where I believe that HBOT may have

its benefits in other areas, do we really know what it does to a growing,

developing brain?

All the best,

Robyn

From: jlhank80 <jlhank80@...>

Subject: Re: Spect scans

Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 7:20 AM

 

Sorry, I didnt say that right. I know there is no ONE THING

that addresses all of our kids issues, but I wanted to express that while I am

not doubting that HBOT works for some kids, there are some risks involved, which

I wasn't aware of until I talked to some people who sad it gave their kids tics

or behavior problems. WE never hear about risks, it get presented as this magic

bullet for kids with ASD and it is not. I couldnt afford it or I would have

done it in a second 2 years ago! Now I am so glad I am broke :-D

- :)

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> CHOC hospital., jr blind and others. My daughter was treated in 1991 for sz

> and completely recovered. I have been in this field for over 15 years and

> have never had a child or adult have sz because of HBOT, Rather the reverse,

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Ok I get what you are saying and personally I have not used HBOT on

either of my boy's. But if I was considering it as an option (and I have

been there with FFW AIT GFCF Neurofeedback plus about to embark on cogmed and

the list and expense goes on) I would be scared about all the talk on hypo

and hyper etc. But once I got through that I would want to access any

scientific evidence that demonstrates that the hypo and hyper states had not

existed before HBOT and so it would be reasonable to attribute these changes

to HBOT in the absence of any other rational explanation and so stay well

clear of a possibly unregulated and potentially damaging treatment! So

please if the studies exist can someone please tell me where to access them

because I have asked before. It seems logical to me that the application of

any treatment should be as a result of an individualised assessment which may

or may not recommend said therapy but as parents we can only form views on

evidence and not simply on possibly anecdotal views. The older of my two

boy's who saw Dr G last December had a SPECT scan and he had hyper and hypo

perfusion present without ever having been near HBOT.

In a message dated 16/09/2009 16:58:19 GMT Daylight Time,

rngcoggs@... writes:

The SPECT scans on a lot of these kids who've had HBOT are not normal, too,

which is a little scary. Too much perfusion! Where I believe that HBOT may

have its benefits in other areas, do we really know what it does to a

growing, developing brain?

All the best,

Robyn

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Subject: Re: Spect scans

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Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 7:20 AM

Sorry, I didnt say that right. I know there is no ONE THING that addresses

all of our kids issues, but I wanted to express that while I am not

doubting that HBOT works for some kids, there are some risks involved, which I

wasn't aware of until I talked to some people who sad it gave their kids tics

or behavior problems. WE never hear about risks, it get presented as this

magic bullet for kids with ASD and it is not. I couldnt afford it or I

would have done it in a second 2 years ago! Now I am so glad I am broke :-D

- :)

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> CHOC hospital., jr blind and others. My daughter was treated in 1991 for

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Not that I want to go back and forth about this here...but my bottom line was

that there is NO WAY to predict the long term effects and consequences of HBOT.

Or excess free radical damage. who knows.

Yes some of our kids have hypo and hyperperfusion but HBOT can aggravate that

and what do you do about hyperperfusion due to excess O2 exposure? Can you

reverse it? I dont know. And if our kids really have immune dysfunction is

HBOT going to take care of the ROOT issue? What about viral reactivation (I

dont know too much about this, just heard of it..)

I am just urging caution, that is all. Just because the DAN people do it, it

doesnt make it right. They are learning too.

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Would the HBOT take care of the hypoperfusion caused by the viral infections

which most of the children with " A " have? I haven't read it would....

JR

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Subject: Re: Spect scans

Not that I want to go back and forth about this here...but my bottom line

was that there is NO WAY to predict the long term effects and consequences

of HBOT. Or excess free radical damage. who knows.

Yes some of our kids have hypo and hyperperfusion but HBOT can aggravate

that and what do you do about hyperperfusion due to excess O2 exposure? Can

you reverse it? I dont know. And if our kids really have immune dysfunction

is HBOT going to take care of the ROOT issue? What about viral reactivation

(I dont know too much about this, just heard of it..)

I am just urging caution, that is all. Just because the DAN people do it, it

doesnt make it right. They are learning too.

- :)

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> > > and By the way, I treat patients for seizures,and have been funded by

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> > CHOC hospital., jr blind and others. My daughter was treated in 1991 for

> sz

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> > and completely recovered. I have been in this field for over 15 years

> and

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> > have never had a child or adult have sz because of HBOT, Rather the

> reverse,

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One thing that stands out to me is that in CFS, which the hypothesis is

based on, has some research showing that there is a problem with oxygen toxicity

.... I can't relate what the studies show, but if I remember, Chaney (?) has some

research published.  I haven't looked into it much since I'm simply not

interested in HBOT, but it might be interesting to go back and look at that

research and learn how it relates to this particular treatment.

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From: <jlhank80@...>

Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 2:39:49 PM

Subject: Re: Spect scans

 

Not that I want to go back and forth about this here...but my bottom line was

that there is NO WAY to predict the long term effects and consequences of HBOT.

Or excess free radical damage. who knows.

Yes some of our kids have hypo and hyperperfusion but HBOT can aggravate that

and what do you do about hyperperfusion due to excess O2 exposure? Can you

reverse it? I dont know. And if our kids really have immune dysfunction is HBOT

going to take care of the ROOT issue? What about viral reactivation (I dont know

too much about this, just heard of it..)

I am just urging caution, that is all. Just because the DAN people do it, it

doesnt make it right. They are learning too.

- :)

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> > CHOC hospital., jr blind and others. My daughter was treated in 1991 for

> sz

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> and

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> reverse,

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