Re: Re: Help with communication... Fastforward?

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Can you please comment on Fast Forward? I was performing an Independent Expert

Evaluation for a patient and the School Psych said Fast Forward doesn't work...

Of course the feedback I get from my patients is that it is extremely useful,

but I am not a Speech Pathologist and can't speak to that. I would appreciate

any feedback, research, etc... from your expertise. Thank you in advanced!

>From: Ann Osterling <aosterling@...>

>Date: 2008/03/18 Tue PM 05:11:38 CDT

>

>Subject: Re: Re: Help with communication... PECS?

>

>Hi ,

>As a speech-language pathologist, please realize that doing " speech therapy "

>can mean using strategies such as PECS, sign language, voice output systems,

>oral motor activities, computer based training like Fast ForWord, etc...I

>don't know Dr. G. but most of the doctors that I work with and who refer to

>me assume I am going to figure out which of the speech-language techniques I

>know will be appropriate for the kids I am working with...

>As important as " speech " is, what's even more important is " language, "

> " communication, " and " interaction. " There are many ways that we all do these

>things---through speech, writing, electronics, pictures, gestures,etc. It's

>important to try to keep all of these modalities going with our kids

>

>so, that's my 2 cents---

>

>Ann

>On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Curtis and Hackler <

>thehacks@...> wrote:

>

>> My son is almost to turn 5 & is still non-verbal. He

>> makes sounds, but has no speech. I am very stressed

>> about it & Dr G says not to do anything " extra " just

>> speech therapy and talking to him. While I respect

>> him completely, I am also feeling very worried about

>> him not talking. School speech paths recommend PECS,

>> picture exchange system, and say that it enhances

>> speech instead of preventing it. Part of me wants to

>> give it a try, but I don't want to do anything to set

>> him back or make him have to " unlearn " . Anybody had a

>> similar experience or any thoughts/advice? I'm really

>> worried about his speech! He is showing cognitive

>> improvement, just nothing verbal.

>> Thanks!

>>

>> --- Argie Olivo <golivo@... <golivo%40cox.net>> wrote:

>>

>> > Hi Alaine,

>> >

>> > We started using Kyodophylus twice a day, cut out

>> > brown rice & brown

>> > sugar all at the same time and my son's

>> > " reflux/gagging " stopped

>> > completely.

>> >

>> > I hope this helps.

>> >

>> >

>> > On Mar 15, 2008, at 12:44 PM, alaine0617 wrote:

>> >

>> > > Hi all,

>> > >

>> > > I see alot of postings about probiotics. Can you

>> > give my some

>> > > practical info - how do they interact/enhance the

>> > rest of the

>> > > protocol; what affects (positive or negative) have

>> > you seen once

>> > > you're

>> > > using them?

>> > >

>> > > I have noticed that, if 's on an antibiotic

>> > (amoxicillin), he

>> > > seems

>> > > more sharp and engaged. Don't know if others have

>> > noticed this or

>> > > not -

>> > > he's recovering from a sinus infection, so he's

>> > taking it now; he also

>> > > had an infected finger a couple of months ago, and

>> > we saw the same

>> > > affect then.

>> > >

>> > > Thanks! Alaine

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

>> > removed]

>> >

>> >

>>

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[Guest guest]

I can't give you any firsthand experience (I know, you weren't asking

me anyway!) but I can tell you that our school district won't use

*any* program that hasn't been clinically studied within the school

setting, which FF has not. So they will definitely tell you that it

doesn't work anyway. From other parents, I hear mostly good things.

Cheryl

On Mar 19, 2008, at 7:19 PM, and Sal Juarez wrote:

> Can you please comment on Fast Forward? I was performing an

> Independent Expert Evaluation for a patient and the School Psych

> said Fast Forward doesn't work... Of course the feedback I get from

> my patients is that it is extremely useful, but I am not a Speech

> Pathologist and can't speak to that. I would appreciate any

> feedback, research, etc... from your expertise. Thank you in advanced!

>

> >From: Ann Osterling <aosterling@...>

> >Date: 2008/03/18 Tue PM 05:11:38 CDT

> >

> >Subject: Re: Re: Help with communication... PECS?

>

> >

> >Hi ,

> >As a speech-language pathologist, please realize that doing

> " speech therapy "

> >can mean using strategies such as PECS, sign language, voice

> output systems,

> >oral motor activities, computer based training like Fast ForWord,

> etc...I

> >don't know Dr. G. but most of the doctors that I work with and who

> refer to

> >me assume I am going to figure out which of the speech-language

> techniques I

> >know will be appropriate for the kids I am working with...

> >As important as " speech " is, what's even more important is

> " language, "

> > " communication, " and " interaction. " There are many ways that we

> all do these

> >things---through speech, writing, electronics, pictures,

> gestures,etc. It's

> >important to try to keep all of these modalities going with our kids

> >

> >so, that's my 2 cents---

> >

> >Ann

> >On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Curtis and Hackler <

> >thehacks@...> wrote:

> >

> >> My son is almost to turn 5 & is still non-verbal. He

> >> makes sounds, but has no speech. I am very stressed

> >> about it & Dr G says not to do anything " extra " just

> >> speech therapy and talking to him. While I respect

> >> him completely, I am also feeling very worried about

> >> him not talking. School speech paths recommend PECS,

> >> picture exchange system, and say that it enhances

> >> speech instead of preventing it. Part of me wants to

> >> give it a try, but I don't want to do anything to set

> >> him back or make him have to " unlearn " . Anybody had a

> >> similar experience or any thoughts/advice? I'm really

> >> worried about his speech! He is showing cognitive

> >> improvement, just nothing verbal.

> >> Thanks!

> >>

> >> --- Argie Olivo <golivo@... <golivo%40cox.net>> wrote:

> >>

> >> > Hi Alaine,

> >> >

> >> > We started using Kyodophylus twice a day, cut out

> >> > brown rice & brown

> >> > sugar all at the same time and my son's

> >> > " reflux/gagging " stopped

> >> > completely.

> >> >

> >> > I hope this helps.

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > On Mar 15, 2008, at 12:44 PM, alaine0617 wrote:

> >> >

> >> > > Hi all,

> >> > >

> >> > > I see alot of postings about probiotics. Can you

> >> > give my some

> >> > > practical info - how do they interact/enhance the

> >> > rest of the

> >> > > protocol; what affects (positive or negative) have

> >> > you seen once

> >> > > you're

> >> > > using them?

> >> > >

> >> > > I have noticed that, if 's on an antibiotic

> >> > (amoxicillin), he

> >> > > seems

> >> > > more sharp and engaged. Don't know if others have

> >> > noticed this or

> >> > > not -

> >> > > he's recovering from a sinus infection, so he's

> >> > taking it now; he also

> >> > > had an infected finger a couple of months ago, and

> >> > we saw the same

> >> > > affect then.

> >> > >

> >> > > Thanks! Alaine

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> >> > removed]

> >> >

> >> >

> >>

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> >

[Guest guest]

Thanks Cheryl. What you said is exactly the problem- school districts making

blanket statements about services that do or can in fact work. Services that

could eventually be in the schools helping our children. Research doesn't

become evidence if it isn't conducted. School Districts drive me insane!!!

>From: Cheryl Lowrance <c.lowrance@...>

>Date: 2008/03/19 Wed PM 09:22:00 CST

>

>Subject: Re: Re: Help with communication... Fastforward?

>

>I can't give you any firsthand experience (I know, you weren't asking

>me anyway!) but I can tell you that our school district won't use

>*any* program that hasn't been clinically studied within the school

>setting, which FF has not. So they will definitely tell you that it

>doesn't work anyway. From other parents, I hear mostly good things.

>

>Cheryl

>

>On Mar 19, 2008, at 7:19 PM, and Sal Juarez wrote:

>

>> Can you please comment on Fast Forward? I was performing an

>> Independent Expert Evaluation for a patient and the School Psych

>> said Fast Forward doesn't work... Of course the feedback I get from

>> my patients is that it is extremely useful, but I am not a Speech

>> Pathologist and can't speak to that. I would appreciate any

>> feedback, research, etc... from your expertise. Thank you in advanced!

>>

>> >From: Ann Osterling <aosterling@...>

>> >Date: 2008/03/18 Tue PM 05:11:38 CDT

>> >

>> >Subject: Re: Re: Help with communication... PECS?

>>

>> >

>> >Hi ,

>> >As a speech-language pathologist, please realize that doing

>> " speech therapy "

>> >can mean using strategies such as PECS, sign language, voice

>> output systems,

>> >oral motor activities, computer based training like Fast ForWord,

>> etc...I

>> >don't know Dr. G. but most of the doctors that I work with and who

>> refer to

>> >me assume I am going to figure out which of the speech-language

>> techniques I

>> >know will be appropriate for the kids I am working with...

>> >As important as " speech " is, what's even more important is

>> " language, "

>> > " communication, " and " interaction. " There are many ways that we

>> all do these

>> >things---through speech, writing, electronics, pictures,

>> gestures,etc. It's

>> >important to try to keep all of these modalities going with our kids

>> >

>> >so, that's my 2 cents---

>> >

>> >Ann

>> >On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Curtis and Hackler <

>> >thehacks@...> wrote:

>> >

>> >> My son is almost to turn 5 & is still non-verbal. He

>> >> makes sounds, but has no speech. I am very stressed

>> >> about it & Dr G says not to do anything " extra " just

>> >> speech therapy and talking to him. While I respect

>> >> him completely, I am also feeling very worried about

>> >> him not talking. School speech paths recommend PECS,

>> >> picture exchange system, and say that it enhances

>> >> speech instead of preventing it. Part of me wants to

>> >> give it a try, but I don't want to do anything to set

>> >> him back or make him have to " unlearn " . Anybody had a

>> >> similar experience or any thoughts/advice? I'm really

>> >> worried about his speech! He is showing cognitive

>> >> improvement, just nothing verbal.

>> >> Thanks!

>> >>

>> >> --- Argie Olivo <golivo@... <golivo%40cox.net>> wrote:

>> >>

>> >> > Hi Alaine,

>> >> >

>> >> > We started using Kyodophylus twice a day, cut out

>> >> > brown rice & brown

>> >> > sugar all at the same time and my son's

>> >> > " reflux/gagging " stopped

>> >> > completely.

>> >> >

>> >> > I hope this helps.

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> > On Mar 15, 2008, at 12:44 PM, alaine0617 wrote:

>> >> >

>> >> > > Hi all,

>> >> > >

>> >> > > I see alot of postings about probiotics. Can you

>> >> > give my some

>> >> > > practical info - how do they interact/enhance the

>> >> > rest of the

>> >> > > protocol; what affects (positive or negative) have

>> >> > you seen once

>> >> > > you're

>> >> > > using them?

>> >> > >

>> >> > > I have noticed that, if 's on an antibiotic

>> >> > (amoxicillin), he

>> >> > > seems

>> >> > > more sharp and engaged. Don't know if others have

>> >> > noticed this or

>> >> > > not -

>> >> > > he's recovering from a sinus infection, so he's

>> >> > taking it now; he also

>> >> > > had an infected finger a couple of months ago, and

>> >> > we saw the same

>> >> > > affect then.

>> >> > >

>> >> > > Thanks! Alaine

>> >> > >

>> >> > >

>> >> > >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

>> >> > removed]

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >>

>> >> __________________________________________________________

>> >> Looking for last minute shopping deals?

>> >> Find them fast with Search.

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>> category=shopping

>> >>

>> >>

>> >

>> >