RE: Mercury's removal doesn't stop autism's rise, study shows

[Guest guest]

The vaccine problems is not just the mercury. Our kids

have immune systems that are cross wired in so any

ways. Vaccines in general are designed too! cross wire

the immune system. Environmental mercury has been on

the rise as have immune system changing

pharmaceuticals in the food and water supply. These

have paralleled the exponential rise in autism as

well. the relationship is not linear it is a 3D

picture.

--- elyse14 <elyse-g@...> wrote:

> Cases of the disorder continued to increase in

> California children

> from 2004 to 2007, even after a preservative was

> removed from

> vaccines.

>

> By Jia-Rui Chong, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer

> January 8, 2008

>

> The prevalence of autism in California children

> continued to rise

> after most vaccine manufacturers started to remove

> the mercury-based

> preservative thimerosal in 1999, suggesting that the

> chemical was not

> a primary cause of the disorder, according to a

> study released Monday.

>

> The analysis found that from 2004 to 2007, when

> exposure to

> thimerosal dropped significantly for 3 to 5 year

> olds, the autism

> rate continued to increase in that group from 3.0 to

> 4.1 per 1,000

> children.

>

> " If mercury exposure in vaccines was a major cause

> of autism, then

> the number of . . . affected kids should have

> diminished once they

> were no longer exposed to thimerosal, " said Dr.

> Schechter,

> lead author of the study and a medical officer at

> the state

> Department of Public Health. " That is not what we

> found. "

>

> The study, published in the Archives of General

> Psychiatry, is the

> latest in a series that has investigated the

> connection between

> thimerosal and autism. The vast majority have found

> no association.

>

> The latest findings failed to convince some parents

> and advocacy

> groups, which have long blamed mercury, a

> neurotoxin, for the

> disorder.

>

> " This study presents a greatly oversimplified

> explanation of a very

> complex problem, " said Bothwell, chairwoman

> of the board at

> the National Autism Assn., which works on behalf of

> families with

> autism. " Rising numbers do not confirm that

> thimerosal never had a

> role. "

>

> Autism is a severe developmental disorder in which

> children seem

> isolated from the world around them. There is a

> broad spectrum of

> symptoms, marked by poor language skills and an

> inability to handle

> social relations.

>

> Over the last two decades, the number of cases has

> boomed across the

> country for still-unexplained reasons. Psychiatrists

> estimated that

> 20 years ago there were 0.2 to 0.5 cases for every

> 1,000 children.

> Last year, the national Centers for Disease Control

> and Prevention

> estimated that there were 6.6 cases per 1,000

> schoolchildren, based

> on a study of 8-year-olds.

>

> The latest study was based on data from the state

> Department of

> Developmental Services, which provides services to

> about 36,000

> people with autism and has one of the best reporting

> systems in the

> country.

>

> The researchers looked at all reported cases in the

> state starting

> with children born in 1989. They found the number of

> cases per 1,000

> children has been steadily increasing from that

> point to March 2007,

> the end point of the study.

>

> In a commentary accompanying the study, Dr.

> Fombonne called the

> data " a clear and unambiguous test. "

>

> " Parents of autistic children should be reassured

> that autism in

> their child did not occur through immunizations, "

> wrote Fombonne, a

> psychiatrist at Montreal Children's Hospital who was

> not involved in

> this study. He has provided advice to vaccine

> manufacturers in the

> past but has received no research funding from them,

> he said.

>

> Steve M. Edelson, an experimental psychologist who

> is director of the

> Autism Research Institute, a nonprofit organization

> in San Diego,

> said the study, along with evidence from previous

> research, argued

> against thimerosal as the major culprit in autism.

>

> But he added that thimerosal may still play some

> role. Edelson said

> such large-scale analysis could overlook smaller

> groups of children,

> who for whatever reason have a particular

> vulnerability to mercury.

>

> He said more solid evidence can only come from

> laboratory studies,

> such as postmortem analyses of the brains of

> autistic children.

>

> The National Autism Assn. criticized the study,

> saying that some

> children may still be exposed to mercury through

> either flu shots or

> trace amounts in other vaccines. The group also said

> that some

> vaccines containing thimerosal had expiration dates

> as late as 2005

> and may have been used up to that point.

>

> jia-rui.chong@...

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I have always felt that mercury was indeed involved, and I still do. I think we

just have to shift our perspective slightly. Mercury is a heavy metal. Heavy

metals create very precise reactions in our bodies. A heavy metal has specific

properties. Mercury is the most neurotoxic metal on our planet. Remember the

real reason why mercury is in vaccines. At first people thought it was as a

preservative but they excuse was " shot out of the water " rather quickly. My own

neurologist called the CDC years ago and asked why mercury is used and they told

him " it is an adjuvant " .

Not a word we use on a daily basis.

" The desired immune response to vaccines is the production of antibodies, and

this is enhanced by adding certain substances to the vaccines. These are called

adjuvants (from the Latin adjuvare, meaning " to help " ).

The chemical nature of adjuvants, their mode of action and their reactions (side

effect) are highly variable. According to Gupta et al. (1993), some of the side

effects can be ascribed to an unintentional stimulation of different mechanisms

of the immune system whereas others may reflect general adverse pharmacological

reactions which are more less expected.

There are several types of adjuvants. Today the most common adjuvants for human

use are aluminium hydroxide, aluminium phosphate and calcium phosphate. However,

there are a number of other adjuvants based on oil emulsions, products from

bacteria (their synthetic derivatives as well as liposomes) or gram-negative

bacteria, endotoxins, cholesterol, fatty acids, aliphatic amines, paraffinic and

vegetable oils. Recently, monophosphoryl lipid A, ISCOMs with Quil-A, and Syntex

adjuvant formulations (SAFs) containing the threonyl derivative or muramyl

dipeptide have been under consideration for use in human vaccines.

Chemically, the adjuvants are a highly heterogenous group of compounds with only

one thing in common: their ability to enhance the immune response-their

adjuvanticity. They are highly variable in terms of how they affect the immune

system and how serious their adverse effects are due to the resultant

hyperactivation of the immune system.

The mode of action of adjuvants was described by Chedid (1985) as: the formation

of a depot of antigen at the site of inoculation, with slow release; the

presentation of antigen immunocompetent cells; and the production of various and

different lymphokines (interleukins and tumour necrosis factor).

The choice of any of these adjuvants reflects a compromise between a requirement

for adjuvanticity and an acceptable low level of adverse reactions.

The discovery of adjuvants dates back to 1925 and 1926, when Ramon (quoted by

Gupta et al., 1993) showed that the antitoxin response to tetanus and diphtheria

was increased by injection of these vaccines, together with other compounds such

as agar, tapioca, lecithin, starch oil, saponin or even breadcrumbs.

The term adjuvant has been used for any material that can increase the humoral

or cellular immune response. to an antigen. In the conventional vaccines,

adjuvants are used to elicit an early, high and long-lasting immune response.

The newly developed purified subunit or synthetic vaccines using biosynthetic,

recombinant and other modern technology are poor immunogens and require

adjuvants to evoke the immune response.

The use of adjuvants enables the use of less antigen to achieve the desired

immune response, and this reduces vaccine production costs. With a few

exceptions, adjuvants are foreign to the body and cause adverse reactions. "

see the site http://www.whale.to/vaccine/adjuvants.html for more..... anyone

else make the connection that " unintentional stimulation of the immune system "

just might be called autoimmune disease?

In removing the #1 metal neurotoxin, they needed a replacement...the #2 metal

neurotoxin...aluminum. HELLO. We already know how dangerous that is to

brains....alzheimers, parkinsons, etc.......The neurotoxicity is what is driving

the reaction. Heavy metals in our environment are the culprit. The vaccines only

introduced a previous generation's dosage of heavy metal toxicity all at once

during this 18 months of the vaccination process. So instead of having the body

be slowly poisoned and acquiring a disease that occurs later in life that has

different symptoms these babies are getting slammed during their developmental

and formative years and cannot develop properly. Voila....autism....remember

that the word autism describes behavior. It is not a disease or diagnosis of a

condition. It is a word that describes behavior. The behavior of a neuro-immune

damaged individual during childhood.

Yes, mercury is horrible. It shouldn't be in our environment at all. I panic

when I hear all about the " new energy saving " flourescent light bulbs. If they

freaked out that we might break a mercury thermometer why would they not freak

out over us breaking this lightbulbs!!!

I could talk/write for hours!!

Lynda

[Guest guest]

Well said Bill.

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From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Bill

klimas

Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 2:54 PM

Subject: Re: Mercury's removal doesn't stop autism's rise, study

shows

The vaccine problems is not just the mercury. Our kids

have immune systems that are cross wired in so any

ways. Vaccines in general are designed too! cross wire

the immune system. Environmental mercury has been on

the rise as have immune system changing

pharmaceuticals in the food and water supply. These

have paralleled the exponential rise in autism as

well. the relationship is not linear it is a 3D

picture.

--- elyse14 <elyse-g@.... <mailto:elyse-g%40ix.netcom.com> com> wrote:

> Cases of the disorder continued to increase in

> California children

> from 2004 to 2007, even after a preservative was

> removed from

> vaccines.

>

> By Jia-Rui Chong, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer

> January 8, 2008

>

> The prevalence of autism in California children

> continued to rise

> after most vaccine manufacturers started to remove

> the mercury-based

> preservative thimerosal in 1999, suggesting that the

> chemical was not

> a primary cause of the disorder, according to a

> study released Monday.

>

> The analysis found that from 2004 to 2007, when

> exposure to

> thimerosal dropped significantly for 3 to 5 year

> olds, the autism

> rate continued to increase in that group from 3.0 to

> 4.1 per 1,000

> children.

>

> " If mercury exposure in vaccines was a major cause

> of autism, then

> the number of . . . affected kids should have

> diminished once they

> were no longer exposed to thimerosal, " said Dr.

> Schechter,

> lead author of the study and a medical officer at

> the state

> Department of Public Health. " That is not what we

> found. "

>

> The study, published in the Archives of General

> Psychiatry, is the

> latest in a series that has investigated the

> connection between

> thimerosal and autism. The vast majority have found

> no association.

>

> The latest findings failed to convince some parents

> and advocacy

> groups, which have long blamed mercury, a

> neurotoxin, for the

> disorder.

>

> " This study presents a greatly oversimplified

> explanation of a very

> complex problem, " said Bothwell, chairwoman

> of the board at

> the National Autism Assn., which works on behalf of

> families with

> autism. " Rising numbers do not confirm that

> thimerosal never had a

> role. "

>

> Autism is a severe developmental disorder in which

> children seem

> isolated from the world around them. There is a

> broad spectrum of

> symptoms, marked by poor language skills and an

> inability to handle

> social relations.

>

> Over the last two decades, the number of cases has

> boomed across the

> country for still-unexplained reasons. Psychiatrists

> estimated that

> 20 years ago there were 0.2 to 0.5 cases for every

> 1,000 children.

> Last year, the national Centers for Disease Control

> and Prevention

> estimated that there were 6.6 cases per 1,000

> schoolchildren, based

> on a study of 8-year-olds.

>

> The latest study was based on data from the state

> Department of

> Developmental Services, which provides services to

> about 36,000

> people with autism and has one of the best reporting

> systems in the

> country.

>

> The researchers looked at all reported cases in the

> state starting

> with children born in 1989. They found the number of

> cases per 1,000

> children has been steadily increasing from that

> point to March 2007,

> the end point of the study.

>

> In a commentary accompanying the study, Dr.

> Fombonne called the

> data " a clear and unambiguous test. "

>

> " Parents of autistic children should be reassured

> that autism in

> their child did not occur through immunizations, "

> wrote Fombonne, a

> psychiatrist at Montreal Children's Hospital who was

> not involved in

> this study. He has provided advice to vaccine

> manufacturers in the

> past but has received no research funding from them,

> he said.

>

> Steve M. Edelson, an experimental psychologist who

> is director of the

> Autism Research Institute, a nonprofit organization

> in San Diego,

> said the study, along with evidence from previous

> research, argued

> against thimerosal as the major culprit in autism.

>

> But he added that thimerosal may still play some

> role. Edelson said

> such large-scale analysis could overlook smaller

> groups of children,

> who for whatever reason have a particular

> vulnerability to mercury.

>

> He said more solid evidence can only come from

> laboratory studies,

> such as postmortem analyses of the brains of

> autistic children.

>

> The National Autism Assn. criticized the study,

> saying that some

> children may still be exposed to mercury through

> either flu shots or

> trace amounts in other vaccines. The group also said

> that some

> vaccines containing thimerosal had expiration dates

> as late as 2005

> and may have been used up to that point.

>

> jia-rui.chong@ <mailto:jia-rui.chong%40latimes.com> latimes.com

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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