Guest guest Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 Both my son and I have " normal " temps of 96.9. He's on the protocol and I have an IgM deficiency. I know that really doesn't answer your question, but it's interesting. I wonder how many others fighting immune issues have lower than normal body temps? Robyn yorkm25 <yorkm25@...> wrote: I have been going over my son's records and I wanted to ask a question. My son's normal temp is 97.? (has been 1-8 that I have seen). Only when he is sick is it higher. He als did not get sick as a child very often. I think his first cold was at 18months. He had other stuff but not sick. Currently he is the last one in the house to come down with anything and if he does its usually something very strong, not just a cold. Does that mean anything? Has anyone ever heard any thing about someone like this. I know this seems like an odd question but I am looking at everything. m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 Robyn, What does a IgM deficiency mean? How was your sons health as a baby/toddler/current? m Re: Temp of 97.? Both my son and I have " normal " temps of 96.9. He's on the protocol and I have an IgM deficiency. I know that really doesn't answer your question, but it's interesting. I wonder how many others fighting immune issues have lower than normal body temps? Robyn yorkm25 <yorkm25 (DOT) com> wrote: I have been going over my son's records and I wanted to ask a question. My son's normal temp is 97.? (has been 1-8 that I have seen). Only when he is sick is it higher. He als did not get sick as a child very often. I think his first cold was at 18months. He had other stuff but not sick. Currently he is the last one in the house to come down with anything and if he does its usually something very strong, not just a cold. Does that mean anything? Has anyone ever heard any thing about someone like this. I know this seems like an odd question but I am looking at everything. m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 The body temp is pretty much insignificant. My own body temp is 97.1 along with my NT son and my ASD son is 98.6 on the dot. 98.6 is just an average and each person's temp can run +/- a degree or two. Knowing the body temp is good, though because if you have someone that runs low, you know that a fever is a fever when it normally wouldn't be. Such as for my NT son and I, 99 would be a fever but not for my asd son. It would still fall in the close to normal range so it wouldn't be something to think about unless it was 100. As far as your son never getting sick, yes, it's significant in . It means your son has an overactive immune system. There is a norm that children should get sick. Too much sickness isn't good and too little sickness isn't good. Getting sick means the immune system is working and building up immunities. Not getting sick means the body is attacking everything that comes in stronger than it needs to. Getting sick too much means the body is just not doing it's job effectively and is being constantly activated but not strong enough to do anything significant. It's not an odd question. These things can and do (at times) mean something. Good questions to ask yourself. Not everything is a ' " sign " but it doesn't mean you shouldn't ask the question. cheryl On Mar 18, 2008, at 4:26 PM, yorkm25 wrote: > I have been going over my son's records and I wanted to ask a > question. My son's normal temp is 97.? (has been 1-8 that I have > seen). Only when he is sick is it higher. He als did not get sick as > a child very often. I think his first cold was at 18months. He had > other stuff but not sick. Currently he is the last one in the house to > come down with anything and if he does its usually something very > strong, not just a cold. Does that mean anything? Has anyone ever > heard any thing about someone like this. I know this seems like an odd > question but I am looking at everything. > m > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 I have an under active thyroid and my temp is normally 96.6. I feel terrible if my temp hits 99. Sheri Robyn & Greg Coggins <rngcoggs@...> wrote: Both my son and I have " normal " temps of 96.9. He's on the protocol and I have an IgM deficiency. I know that really doesn't answer your question, but it's interesting. I wonder how many others fighting immune issues have lower than normal body temps? Robyn yorkm25 <yorkm25@...> wrote: I have been going over my son's records and I wanted to ask a question. My son's normal temp is 97.? (has been 1-8 that I have seen). Only when he is sick is it higher. He als did not get sick as a child very often. I think his first cold was at 18months. He had other stuff but not sick. Currently he is the last one in the house to come down with anything and if he does its usually something very strong, not just a cold. Does that mean anything? Has anyone ever heard any thing about someone like this. I know this seems like an odd question but I am looking at everything. m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 Hi Cheryl I know you have seen some great progress on the nids protocol. My son seems to be an immune system train wreck. All the testing through our Dan points to an overactive immune system. Jake has asd,adhd mild asthma, allergies and pandas. Have you ever come across a child who reacts to almost all supplements with aggitation. I think even the custom probiotics are giving him a hard time. I'm not sure if it's yeast die off ( is that possible?) or the D lactate free is just not agreeing with him. Anyway, going out to see Dr G right now would be tough. I don't think I could travel with Jake all the way to California. Flying with him to Bahamas last year was extremely difficult and that was 2 and a half hours. I have all of Dr G's info but I'm afraid to fly with him. He's 9 years old and very strong. Do you think I should try NNY autism center? Since they do nids too? The pandas and behaviors are what is holding Jake back. His HHv6 titers are high, ASO, DNASE and Epstein Barr all elevated. What do you think? I appreciate your help! Vicki Eisen Cheryl Lowrance <c.lowrance@...> wrote: The body temp is pretty much insignificant. My own body temp is 97.1 along with my NT son and my ASD son is 98.6 on the dot. 98.6 is just an average and each person's temp can run +/- a degree or two. Knowing the body temp is good, though because if you have someone that runs low, you know that a fever is a fever when it normally wouldn't be. Such as for my NT son and I, 99 would be a fever but not for my asd son. It would still fall in the close to normal range so it wouldn't be something to think about unless it was 100. As far as your son never getting sick, yes, it's significant in . It means your son has an overactive immune system. There is a norm that children should get sick. Too much sickness isn't good and too little sickness isn't good. Getting sick means the immune system is working and building up immunities. Not getting sick means the body is attacking everything that comes in stronger than it needs to. Getting sick too much means the body is just not doing it's job effectively and is being constantly activated but not strong enough to do anything significant. It's not an odd question. These things can and do (at times) mean something. Good questions to ask yourself. Not everything is a ' " sign " but it doesn't mean you shouldn't ask the question. cheryl On Mar 18, 2008, at 4:26 PM, yorkm25 wrote: > I have been going over my son's records and I wanted to ask a > question. My son's normal temp is 97.? (has been 1-8 that I have > seen). Only when he is sick is it higher. He als did not get sick as > a child very often. I think his first cold was at 18months. He had > other stuff but not sick. Currently he is the last one in the house to > come down with anything and if he does its usually something very > strong, not just a cold. Does that mean anything? Has anyone ever > heard any thing about someone like this. I know this seems like an odd > question but I am looking at everything. > m > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 My daughter also never gets sick. If the body is attacking everything that comes in stronger than it need to could that also be an indication that it is attacking good cells (auto-immune)? Cheryl Lowrance wrote: > The body temp is pretty much insignificant. My own body temp is 97.1 > along with my NT son and my ASD son is 98.6 on the dot. 98.6 is just > an average and each person's temp can run +/- a degree or two. > Knowing the body temp is good, though because if you have someone > that runs low, you know that a fever is a fever when it normally > wouldn't be. Such as for my NT son and I, 99 would be a fever but > not for my asd son. It would still fall in the close to normal range > so it wouldn't be something to think about unless it was 100. > > As far as your son never getting sick, yes, it's significant in > . It means your son has an overactive immune system. There is a > norm that children should get sick. Too much sickness isn't good and > too little sickness isn't good. Getting sick means the immune system > is working and building up immunities. Not getting sick means the > body is attacking everything that comes in stronger than it needs > to. Getting sick too much means the body is just not doing it's job > effectively and is being constantly activated but not strong enough > to do anything significant. > > It's not an odd question. These things can and do (at times) mean > something. Good questions to ask yourself. Not everything is a > ' " sign " but it doesn't mean you shouldn't ask the question. > > cheryl > > On Mar 18, 2008, at 4:26 PM, yorkm25 wrote: > > > I have been going over my son's records and I wanted to ask a > > question. My son's normal temp is 97.? (has been 1-8 that I have > > seen). Only when he is sick is it higher. He als did not get sick as > > a child very often. I think his first cold was at 18months. He had > > other stuff but not sick. Currently he is the last one in the house to > > come down with anything and if he does its usually something very > > strong, not just a cold. Does that mean anything? Has anyone ever > > heard any thing about someone like this. I know this seems like an odd > > question but I am looking at everything. > > m > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 , Excellent question. There¹s a good possibility that could be happening in some kids. That¹s one reason we do everything we can to ³cool down² the immune system (by removing triggers, etc.) the best we can. That can provide significant relief. But, remember, the overactive immune system is not the WHOLE problem (but a part of it) because there are kids who are fighting this who have underactive immune systems as well. And some have both over AND underactivity going on at the same time in different areas. If you peel the problem down a few more layers, you¹re probably looking at a problem with the cytokines (which carry messages between cells). Peel a few more layers, and it may be an epigenetic switch that has been thrown the wrong way. Read this... http://www.ucdmc.ucdavis.edu/newsroom/releases/archives/mind/2005/immune_sys 5-2005.html The whole issue reminds me of playing the game ³telephone² when I was young (where you whisper a message in someone¹s ear and pass it on)... once the message is confounded, it just gets to be more and more of a mess. Caroline G. From: Caroline <carrieps@...> Reply-< > Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 21:18:40 -0800 < > Subject: Re: Temp of 97.? My daughter also never gets sick. If the body is attacking everything that comes in stronger than it need to could that also be an indication that it is attacking good cells (auto-immune)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 My oldest son & I both have a normal temp of 96.8. His younger brother has always had normal temp 98.6. I very seldom " catch " anything & neither does my older son. His entire daycare class could come down with a stomach virus, and he'd be fine. The younger one caught everything. Neither one had a properly functioning immune system. As they've been on the protocal, that's changed. The oldest gets sick occasionally (he recently had the flu) and the youngest isn't sick as often. > > > I have been going over my son's records and I wanted to ask a > > question. My son's normal temp is 97.? (has been 1-8 that I have > > seen). Only when he is sick is it higher. He als did not get sick as > > a child very often. I think his first cold was at 18months. He had > > other stuff but not sick. Currently he is the last one in the house to > > come down with anything and if he does its usually something very > > strong, not just a cold. Does that mean anything? Has anyone ever > > heard any thing about someone like this. I know this seems like an odd > > question but I am looking at everything. > > m > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 I have hypothryroidism as well and I feel the same way if my temp hits 99. Robyn Sheri <eszbi5@...> wrote: I have an under active thyroid and my temp is normally 96.6. I feel terrible if my temp hits 99. Sheri Robyn & Greg Coggins <rngcoggs@...> wrote: Both my son and I have " normal " temps of 96.9. He's on the protocol and I have an IgM deficiency. I know that really doesn't answer your question, but it's interesting. I wonder how many others fighting immune issues have lower than normal body temps? Robyn yorkm25 <yorkm25@...> wrote: I have been going over my son's records and I wanted to ask a question. My son's normal temp is 97.? (has been 1-8 that I have seen). Only when he is sick is it higher. He als did not get sick as a child very often. I think his first cold was at 18months. He had other stuff but not sick. Currently he is the last one in the house to come down with anything and if he does its usually something very strong, not just a cold. Does that mean anything? Has anyone ever heard any thing about someone like this. I know this seems like an odd question but I am looking at everything. m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 IgM deficiency is selective immunoglobulin deficiency. The way I understand it is that IgM is your body's first line of defense against invaders. IgM is by far the physically largest antibody in the human circulatory system. I dont' have enough of these guys, so I often have low grade infections and illnesses that I can't seem to shake--chronic sore throats and sinus infections are my biggest problems right now. Regarding my son, he had quite a few ear infections until about 18 months and then he only had one between the ages of 18 mos and 7 years. He rarely catches colds or gets the flu. He does, however, have something called Cyclical Vomiting Syndrome, which is thought to be neurological in nature, and migraines. Robyn Maureen York <yorkm25@...> wrote: Robyn, What does a IgM deficiency mean? How was your sons health as a baby/toddler/current? m Re: Temp of 97.? Both my son and I have " normal " temps of 96.9. He's on the protocol and I have an IgM deficiency. I know that really doesn't answer your question, but it's interesting. I wonder how many others fighting immune issues have lower than normal body temps? Robyn yorkm25 <yorkm25 (DOT) com> wrote: I have been going over my son's records and I wanted to ask a question. My son's normal temp is 97.? (has been 1-8 that I have seen). Only when he is sick is it higher. He als did not get sick as a child very often. I think his first cold was at 18months. He had other stuff but not sick. Currently he is the last one in the house to come down with anything and if he does its usually something very strong, not just a cold. Does that mean anything? Has anyone ever heard any thing about someone like this. I know this seems like an odd question but I am looking at everything. m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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