Guest guest Posted June 9, 2002 Report Share Posted June 9, 2002 > Anybody have experience with juicers? I'm trying to decide between a > masticating or centrifugal machine. Personal experiences, info, and > opinions greatly appreciated. Thanks! Go to: /message/7482 live-food/message/9442 Green Life is the best, no question about it. Stay clear of centrifugal machines, they are worthless for extracting mineral rich juice. All masticating machines heat and oxidize the juice too much. Single or twin gear machines are the best. I have owned Omega (parents), Champion, Norwalk, and Green Life. Portland, OR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2002 Report Share Posted June 10, 2002 In a message dated 6/10/2002 10:04:33 AM Central Daylight Time, brberg@... writes: > > Do people here do a lot of juicing? Just wondering because NT doesn't > seem > > to mention juicing but everytime I've been to a naturopath in the past, > they > > went on about juicing. They also went on about vegetarianism as well > mind > > you I make juice out of strawberries and other fruits but for a drink treat not as food. I prefer to chew my food. Belinda LaBelle Acres www.labelleacres.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2002 Report Share Posted June 10, 2002 Do people here do a lot of juicing? Just wondering because NT doesn't seem to mention juicing but everytime I've been to a naturopath in the past, they went on about juicing. They also went on about vegetarianism as well mind you. Astrid ----- Original Message ----- From: sraosha87 <sraosha@...> < > Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2002 10:10 PM Subject: Re: Juicers? > > > Anybody have experience with juicers? I'm trying to decide between > a > > masticating or centrifugal machine. Personal experiences, info, and > > opinions greatly appreciated. Thanks! > > Go to: > > /message/7482 > > live-food/message/9442 > > Green Life is the best, no question about it. Stay clear of > centrifugal machines, they are worthless for extracting mineral rich > juice. All masticating machines heat and oxidize the juice too much. > Single or twin gear machines are the best. I have owned Omega > (parents), Champion, Norwalk, and Green Life. > > > Portland, OR > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2002 Report Share Posted June 10, 2002 ----- Original Message ----- From: " Astrid Froese " <astrid.froese@...> > Do people here do a lot of juicing? Just wondering because NT doesn't seem > to mention juicing but everytime I've been to a naturopath in the past, they > went on about juicing. They also went on about vegetarianism as well mind > you. We just juice meat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2002 Report Share Posted June 10, 2002 ----- Original Message ----- From: " Astrid Froese " <astrid.froese@s...> > Do people here do a lot of juicing? Just wondering because NT doesn't seem > to mention juicing but everytime I've been to a naturopath in the past, they > went on about juicing. They also went on about vegetarianism as well mind > you. >>>>>>>>We just juice meat. ******With our gastric juices. chyme. it's what's for dinner. hehe. Suze Fisher Web Design & Development http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg/ mailto:s.fisher22@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2002 Report Share Posted June 10, 2002 Sally left juicing out of NT because when Dr. Price did his early studies he found primitive peoples were having trouble getting parts for their juicers. It appears that they waited forever to get phone service and once they did call to order UPS didn't deliver to their location. But here is another view on juicing: http://www.mercola.com/forms/juicing.htm >Do people here do a lot of juicing? Just wondering because NT doesn't seem > to mention juicing but everytime I've been to a naturopath in the past, they > went on about juicing. They also went on about vegetarianism as well mind > you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2002 Report Share Posted June 10, 2002 Berg wrote: > We just juice meat. Why? What do you get as a result? Roman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2002 Report Share Posted June 11, 2002 What do you all think of Vita-mixed vegetables as opposed to vegetables which are juiced? I've heard people say that drinking the whole juice (as with a Vita-mix) doesn't taste as good, but do you think it is healthier? It is interesting that Dr. Mercola adds the pulp back into the juice...I think if I were going to drink the pulp, I'd just use a vita-mix to begin with ( a lot easier to clean up!) Barb Sally left juicing out of NT because when Dr. Price did his early studies he found primitive peoples were having trouble getting parts for their juicers. It appears that they waited forever to get phone service and once they did call to order UPS didn't deliver to their location. But here is another view on juicing: http://www.mercola.com/forms/juicing.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2002 Report Share Posted June 11, 2002 At 08:35 PM 6/10/2002 -0500, you wrote: >What do you all think of Vita-mixed vegetables as opposed to vegetables which are juiced? I've heard people say that drinking the whole juice (as with a Vita-mix) doesn't taste as good, but do you think it is healthier? It is interesting that Dr. Mercola adds the pulp back into the juice...I think if I were going to drink the pulp, I'd just use a vita-mix to begin with ( a lot easier to clean up!) >Barb I Vita mix everything. I used to have a juicer, and there is no contest: the juice tastes better whole, plus it is a LOT easier on the Vita mix. It even turns the coconut oil into " cream " . And the Vita mix juice tastes just fine to me, maybe not as sweet, and it can be thick, but I like those traits. Usually I add ice cubes and kefir (used to be protein powder, but hey, we have kefir now!). > Heidi Schuppenhauer Trillium Custom Software Inc. heidis@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2002 Report Share Posted June 11, 2002 There is probably some benefit to juicing for people that have compromised digestive systems from years of SAD or low fat diets. Most of the cheap high-speed centrifugal juicers may heat the juice too much and destroy the benefits or raw fresh juice. Also you don't want to juice fruit or high sugar vegetables such as carrots and beets. The low speed gear or press juicers are very expensive. You may want to use a cheap $49 Krups juicer to decide if you like juicing before spending $400 on a top of the press juicer. > What do you all think of Vita-mixed vegetables as opposed to vegetables which are juiced? I've heard people say that drinking the whole juice (as with a Vita-mix) doesn't taste as good, but do you think it is healthier? It is interesting that Dr. Mercola adds the pulp back into the juice...I think if I were going to drink the pulp, I'd just use a vita-mix to begin with ( a lot easier to clean up!) > Barb > > > Sally left juicing out of NT because when Dr. Price did his early studies he > found primitive peoples were having trouble getting parts for their juicers. > It appears that they waited forever to get phone service and once they did > call to order UPS didn't deliver to their location. > > But here is another view on juicing: > http://www.mercola.com/forms/juicing.htm > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2002 Report Share Posted June 11, 2002 Heidi, What do you do with the coconut " cream " ? And, how long do you process it to get cream? Any other favorite vita-mix ideas/vegetable juices? Thanks, > I Vita mix everything. I used to have a juicer, and there is no > contest: the juice tastes better whole, plus it is a LOT easier on > the Vita mix. It even turns the coconut oil into " cream " . And the > Vita mix juice tastes just fine to me, maybe not as sweet, and it > can be thick, but I like those traits. Usually I add ice cubes and > kefir (used to be protein powder, but hey, we have kefir now!). > > Heidi Schuppenhauer ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2002 Report Share Posted June 11, 2002 At 06:11 AM 6/11/2002 -0400, you wrote: >Heidi, >What do you do with the coconut " cream " ? And, how long do you process it >to get cream? I make the cream for my son, who is tube fed. It tastes good though -- I added some chocolate and made some into ice cream once as an experiment (it tasted like chocolate ice cream). His formula involves some cooked rice, flax seeds, water or kefir, and coconut oil. When it blends, it's kind of sticky for awhile, then suddenly turns into an emulsion, at which point is is just about body temperature. Once it emulsifies, it doesn't separate out or get hard, it stays creamy. Probably would be a good base for something like salad dressing. I think the processing time is about 2-3 minutes. I use the flax seeds as a measure: when I can barely see the little brown flakes, then it's done. The Vitamixes DO produce heat -- I'm not sure how much of a tradeoff it is. Juicing an orange with some ice cubes doesn't change the taste of the orange like pastuerizing does, so I believe a lot of the enzymatic content is still there (and with the ice, I think the heat dissipates pretty fast). In the case of coconut cream, the heat melts the coconut oil and emulsifies it. Might work for Branden's butter/cream too, but I haven't tried it. >Any other favorite vita-mix ideas/vegetable juices? No, I guess I'm in a rut. I just throw whatever fruits are beginning to get too ripe into the thing with some ice and kefir and cream. Bananas and coconut are good to add. I don't do many vegetable juices: right now I'm eating a lot of fermented vegies, which I like a lot better than juices in general. I " juice " some of my soups though, to add flavor to the broth (take some of the cooked vegies and grind them up, then put them back in the soup). My favorite drink at the moment is kefir+a little apple juice+fizz water (Dom's " Butterfly " ). I'm going to try the Body Ecology Diet's idea for making fermented vegies though: they blend up some of the vegies into a mix to pour over the solid vegies before culturing. Heidi Schuppenhauer Trillium Custom Software Inc. heidis@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2002 Report Share Posted June 11, 2002 Hi Heidi, How did you make the ice cream? Thanks Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: Heidi Schuppenhauer Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 12:51 PM Subject: Re: Re: Juicers? At 06:11 AM 6/11/2002 -0400, you wrote: >Heidi, >What do you do with the coconut " cream " ? And, how long do you process it >to get cream? I make the cream for my son, who is tube fed. It tastes good though -- I added some chocolate and made some into ice cream once as an experiment (it tasted like chocolate ice cream). His formula involves some cooked rice, flax seeds, water or kefir, and coconut oil. When it blends, it's kind of sticky for awhile, then suddenly turns into an emulsion, at which point is is just about body temperature. Once it emulsifies, it doesn't separate out or get hard, it stays creamy. Probably would be a good base for something like salad dressing. I think the processing time is about 2-3 minutes. I use the flax seeds as a measure: when I can barely see the little brown flakes, then it's done. The Vitamixes DO produce heat -- I'm not sure how much of a tradeoff it is. Juicing an orange with some ice cubes doesn't change the taste of the orange like pastuerizing does, so I believe a lot of the enzymatic content is still there (and with the ice, I think the heat dissipates pretty fast). In the case of coconut cream, the heat melts the coconut oil and emulsifies it. Might work for Branden's butter/cream too, but I haven't tried it. >Any other favorite vita-mix ideas/vegetable juices? No, I guess I'm in a rut. I just throw whatever fruits are beginning to get too ripe into the thing with some ice and kefir and cream. Bananas and coconut are good to add. I don't do many vegetable juices: right now I'm eating a lot of fermented vegies, which I like a lot better than juices in general. I " juice " some of my soups though, to add flavor to the broth (take some of the cooked vegies and grind them up, then put them back in the soup). My favorite drink at the moment is kefir+a little apple juice+fizz water (Dom's " Butterfly " ). I'm going to try the Body Ecology Diet's idea for making fermented vegies though: they blend up some of the vegies into a mix to pour over the solid vegies before culturing. Heidi Schuppenhauer Trillium Custom Software Inc. heidis@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2002 Report Share Posted June 12, 2002 At 02:57 PM 6/11/2002 -0500, you wrote: >Hi Heidi, > >How did you make the ice cream? > >Thanks > >Larry I didn't use a recipe, but it was something like: 2 cups rice 1 Tb Flax seed 1 1/2 cups water 1/2 cup coconut oil 1/2 cup coconut sweeten to taste (I wasn't trying to be healthy here, just experimental: I used sugar). cocoa powder to taste Blend until creamy: chill. Pour into ice cream maker. I was curious mainly for people who can't tolerate milk. I think it would be healthier with kefir and cream, leave out the rice. Or ferment it first, then chill it. I've been using the kefir in making cookies BTW -- it makes a GREAT flavor and it makes the cookies very, very soft (my husband doesn't like crispy cookies). I also tried Dom's pizza dough recipe with kefir (using sorghum flour instead of wheat) and it made a really soft, sourdough crust with no additional yeast. > Heidi Schuppenhauer Trillium Custom Software Inc. heidis@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2002 Report Share Posted June 12, 2002 > >Hi Heidi, > > > >How did you make the ice cream? > > > >Thanks > > > >Larry > >>>>>>>>Snipped By Dennis>>>>>>> like crispy cookies). I also tried Dom's pizza dough recipe with kefir (using sorghum flour instead of wheat) and it made a really soft, sourdough crust with no additional yeast. > > > > Heidi Schuppenhauer > Trillium Custom Software Inc. > heidis@t... >>>>>>>>Heidi I bet you're using the sorghum for a reason. What is it? BTW,Would that be grain sorghum.?. Wasn't the crust crispy, like super crispy? OK, how did you make it with sorghum and get it really soft? Dennis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2002 Report Share Posted June 13, 2002 >I also tried Dom's pizza dough recipe with kefir Who is Dom? TIA. Peace and Love of Christ be with you, Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2002 Report Share Posted June 13, 2002 At 11:14 PM 6/12/2002 +0000, you wrote: >>I also tried Dom's pizza dough recipe with kefir > >Who is Dom? TIA. > >Peace and Love of Christ be with you, >Robin Dom is the King of Kefir ... well, he runs a very nice and informative website on the subject, and hosts a group on the subject. He does a lot of experimenting with it, and seems to be one of the original keferites. Nice guy too. Check out: http://users.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html The group is Kefir_making Heidi Schuppenhauer Trillium Custom Software Inc. heidis@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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