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May,

We don't know each other but my son has been going to Dr. G since he was almost

5. At that time I was told by the " experts " that he would never be okay and

would probably end up in an institution. He was in the 3rd percentile for

speech when he entered Kindergarten. Most of what I did was so I wouldn't have

guilt later when placement might have to be considered. Thank god for guilt.

He now is recovered, and attends a major university. They don't know he ever

had Autism and gave him a half ride. He has friends, drives and does all the

things the doctors said would never be possible. After you help them physically

you have to teach them everything they missed. In the beginning we have to

teach our kids everything that other kids just learn on their own. That used to

make me so mad. We used ABA in the until he could learn like other kids. But

be careful many ABA providers are just there to take your money and aren't

really doing it correctly.

Hang in there medically. It sounds like you are experiencing die-off which

actually as weird as it sounds is a good thing. It means your kid can get

better. A die-off reaction is when the yeast or virus is being killed off. It

usually kicks up some severe reactions before exiting the body. I know you are

never going to believe this because your child is acting so much more autistic,

but it really is great news. It means your child will be helped tremendously by

the meds. You probably feel like you are going backwards at this time, and it is

hard to know that you are doing the right thing. However, when die-off is over,

you will see a new kid. More focused and alert. You will be amazed by the

change in your child. So hang on. After die-off it will be wonderful! The

hyper,silly, aggressive and drunken behavior start to go away. Now they can

learn to stop pinching or biting. (Or whatever the behavior is that your child

does. Behaviors that make you crazy now, will be possible to get rid of with

teaching.)

To help with die-off, you can give your child some activated charcoal (can get

at the pharmacy without a prescription) to absorb the yeast that is being killed

off. But be careful when you give it, because in addition to absorbing the

yeast that is existing the body, it will absorb medicines. So don't give it

shortly after giving meds. Die-off doesn't usually last more than a week but

can be as long as ten days. If it is really bad, call Dr. G. He may tell you

to either increase or decrease the dosage of the anti-fungal.

Once I tried the pills myself just to see what die-off felt like. You feel like

PMS times twenty. During that time we didn't do any thing complicated. We hung

out and did things he found relaxing like watching his favorite videos. It

wasn't a time I would try to teach my son anything new. They feel very sick.

Tylenol every three and a half hours helps. Hang in there. This short terrible

time will bring great things,

It took years for our kids to be sick and it takes years to recover. Even if

you could wave a magic wand and make their bodies normal, you would have to

teach them everything they missed while they were sick.

You don't wake up one morning and BAM they are better. It takes time and it is

usually ten steps forward and two steps back. When my son was little, the

hardest thing was to keep talking to this kid who gave me no indication one way

or another that he cared about anything I said or did. You have to keep

treating them like they are normal even though they don't act normal. Don't

change the world to make their lives easier, make them change to fit in the

world. Some good advice I received from Maurice was to use everything

they like to motivate them.

It is possible for our kids to be " normal " and lead happy productive lives if

they have parents that don't give up on them. You know that kid is in there,

you just have to make them come out before they make you so mad you want to kill

them. Hang in there and don't give up on them no matter how much they try to

make you. They can get better. Call me if I can help.

Marcia Hinds

805 497-8202

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Marcia,

This came on the perfect day for me. I know you meant it for another mom but

I wanted you to know that it really encouraged me during our die off time.

Thank you for taking the time to write about your positive experience.

Martha

Aggressive Behavior

May,

We don't know each other but my son has been going to Dr. G since he was

almost 5. At that time I was told by the " experts " that he would never be

okay and would probably end up in an institution. He was in the 3rd

percentile for speech when he entered Kindergarten. Most of what I did was

so I wouldn't have guilt later when placement might have to be considered.

Thank god for guilt.

He now is recovered, and attends a major university. They don't know he

ever had Autism and gave him a half ride. He has friends, drives and does

all the things the doctors said would never be possible. After you help them

physically you have to teach them everything they missed. In the beginning

we have to teach our kids everything that other kids just learn on their

own. That used to make me so mad. We used ABA in the until he could learn

like other kids. But be careful many ABA providers are just there to take

your money and aren't really doing it correctly.

Hang in there medically. It sounds like you are experiencing die-off which

actually as weird as it sounds is a good thing. It means your kid can get

better. A die-off reaction is when the yeast or virus is being killed off.

It usually kicks up some severe reactions before exiting the body. I know

you are never going to believe this because your child is acting so much

more autistic, but it really is great news. It means your child will be

helped tremendously by the meds. You probably feel like you are going

backwards at this time, and it is hard to know that you are doing the right

thing. However, when die-off is over, you will see a new kid. More focused

and alert. You will be amazed by the change in your child. So hang on. After

die-off it will be wonderful! The hyper,silly, aggressive and drunken

behavior start to go away. Now they can learn to stop pinching or biting.

(Or whatever the behavior is that your child does. Behaviors that make you

crazy now, will be possible to get rid of with teaching.)

To help with die-off, you can give your child some activated charcoal (can

get at the pharmacy without a prescription) to absorb the yeast that is

being killed off. But be careful when you give it, because in addition to

absorbing the yeast that is existing the body, it will absorb medicines. So

don't give it shortly after giving meds. Die-off doesn't usually last more

than a week but can be as long as ten days. If it is really bad, call Dr. G.

He may tell you to either increase or decrease the dosage of the

anti-fungal.

Once I tried the pills myself just to see what die-off felt like. You feel

like PMS times twenty. During that time we didn't do any thing complicated.

We hung out and did things he found relaxing like watching his favorite

videos. It wasn't a time I would try to teach my son anything new. They feel

very sick. Tylenol every three and a half hours helps. Hang in there. This

short terrible time will bring great things,

It took years for our kids to be sick and it takes years to recover. Even

if

you could wave a magic wand and make their bodies normal, you would have

to

teach them everything they missed while they were sick.

You don't wake up one morning and BAM they are better. It takes time and

it is usually ten steps forward and two steps back. When my son was little,

the hardest thing was to keep talking to this kid who gave me no indication

one way or another that he cared about anything I said or did. You have to

keep treating them like they are normal even though they don't act normal.

Don't change the world to make their lives easier, make them change to fit

in the world. Some good advice I received from Maurice was to use

everything they like to motivate them.

It is possible for our kids to be " normal " and lead happy productive lives

if they have parents that don't give up on them. You know that kid is in

there, you just have to make them come out before they make you so mad you

want to kill them. Hang in there and don't give up on them no matter how

much they try to make you. They can get better. Call me if I can help.

Marcia Hinds

805 497-8202

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I will just begin wit dr. G in a few months, waiting for an appointment.

What you told to us in this mail make me feel so good, i canĀ“t wat until the

app.

Thanks for you help

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Beautifully said, Marcia. Your story gives me so much hope. We started with Dr.

G in January, with Noah starting Valtrex in Feb, despite labs being negative.

After three months of die off, blood draws, etc., that nasty virus finally

showed up in labs. I was thrilled. We are definitely on the right track,

although I knew that already because of his vast improvements in speech and

social interaction. Our oldest son started the protocol in April and has

experienced improvement as well. He is more classic , where Noah is a little

more difficult to pin down.

Hang in there, May (I think we met during our respective children's spect

scans)

All the best,

Robyn

Marcia Hinds <hindssite@...> wrote:

May,

We don't know each other but my son has been going to Dr. G since he was almost

5. At that time I was told by the " experts " that he would never be okay and

would probably end up in an institution. He was in the 3rd percentile for speech

when he entered Kindergarten. Most of what I did was so I wouldn't have guilt

later when placement might have to be considered. Thank god for guilt.

He now is recovered, and attends a major university. They don't know he ever had

Autism and gave him a half ride. He has friends, drives and does all the things

the doctors said would never be possible. After you help them physically you

have to teach them everything they missed. In the beginning we have to teach our

kids everything that other kids just learn on their own. That used to make me so

mad. We used ABA in the until he could learn like other kids. But be careful

many ABA providers are just there to take your money and aren't really doing it

correctly.

Hang in there medically. It sounds like you are experiencing die-off which

actually as weird as it sounds is a good thing. It means your kid can get

better. A die-off reaction is when the yeast or virus is being killed off. It

usually kicks up some severe reactions before exiting the body. I know you are

never going to believe this because your child is acting so much more autistic,

but it really is great news. It means your child will be helped tremendously by

the meds. You probably feel like you are going backwards at this time, and it is

hard to know that you are doing the right thing. However, when die-off is over,

you will see a new kid. More focused and alert. You will be amazed by the change

in your child. So hang on. After die-off it will be wonderful! The hyper,silly,

aggressive and drunken behavior start to go away. Now they can learn to stop

pinching or biting. (Or whatever the behavior is that your child does. Behaviors

that make you crazy now, will be possible

to get rid of with teaching.)

To help with die-off, you can give your child some activated charcoal (can get

at the pharmacy without a prescription) to absorb the yeast that is being killed

off. But be careful when you give it, because in addition to absorbing the yeast

that is existing the body, it will absorb medicines. So don't give it shortly

after giving meds. Die-off doesn't usually last more than a week but can be as

long as ten days. If it is really bad, call Dr. G. He may tell you to either

increase or decrease the dosage of the anti-fungal.

Once I tried the pills myself just to see what die-off felt like. You feel like

PMS times twenty. During that time we didn't do any thing complicated. We hung

out and did things he found relaxing like watching his favorite videos. It

wasn't a time I would try to teach my son anything new. They feel very sick.

Tylenol every three and a half hours helps. Hang in there. This short terrible

time will bring great things,

It took years for our kids to be sick and it takes years to recover. Even if

you could wave a magic wand and make their bodies normal, you would have to

teach them everything they missed while they were sick.

You don't wake up one morning and BAM they are better. It takes time and it is

usually ten steps forward and two steps back. When my son was little, the

hardest thing was to keep talking to this kid who gave me no indication one way

or another that he cared about anything I said or did. You have to keep treating

them like they are normal even though they don't act normal. Don't change the

world to make their lives easier, make them change to fit in the world. Some

good advice I received from Maurice was to use everything they like to

motivate them.

It is possible for our kids to be " normal " and lead happy productive lives if

they have parents that don't give up on them. You know that kid is in there, you

just have to make them come out before they make you so mad you want to kill

them. Hang in there and don't give up on them no matter how much they try to

make you. They can get better. Call me if I can help.

Marcia Hinds

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Hi Marcia,

Sorry for taking so long to respond I have been overwhelmed by appts. and I

haven't had a chance to check my e-mail. Anyhow, I needed some encouragement

lately. My daughter is just out of control at times. I walk on eggshells around

her because, the slightest things set her off.

She has this problem were if she sees any black speck on her food she starts to

gag and has actually thrown up from it. There has been a lot of sensory issues

as well.

The day that I read your email I got a phone call from Dr.G's office and they

told me that she was experiencing die off. So I felt relieved to read your

e-mail as far as it being only temporary. It is so hard for me to deal with at

times and I don't know what to do. It is so frustrating because I just want her

to get better and to see my little girl behave like that is heartbreaking.

Again, I want to say thanks for the encouragement and your advice. Hope to talk

to you soon. May (909)815-6680 if you would like to share any other words of

hope or vice versa. God bless and take care.

---- Marcia Hinds <hindssite@...> wrote:

> May,

>

> We don't know each other but my son has been going to Dr. G since he was

almost 5. At that time I was told by the " experts " that he would never be okay

and would probably end up in an institution. He was in the 3rd percentile for

speech when he entered Kindergarten. Most of what I did was so I wouldn't have

guilt later when placement might have to be considered. Thank god for guilt.

>

>

>

> He now is recovered, and attends a major university. They don't know he ever

had Autism and gave him a half ride. He has friends, drives and does all the

things the doctors said would never be possible. After you help them physically

you have to teach them everything they missed. In the beginning we have to

teach our kids everything that other kids just learn on their own. That used to

make me so mad. We used ABA in the until he could learn like other kids. But

be careful many ABA providers are just there to take your money and aren't

really doing it correctly.

>

>

>

> Hang in there medically. It sounds like you are experiencing die-off which

actually as weird as it sounds is a good thing. It means your kid can get

better. A die-off reaction is when the yeast or virus is being killed off. It

usually kicks up some severe reactions before exiting the body. I know you are

never going to believe this because your child is acting so much more autistic,

but it really is great news. It means your child will be helped tremendously by

the meds. You probably feel like you are going backwards at this time, and it is

hard to know that you are doing the right thing. However, when die-off is over,

you will see a new kid. More focused and alert. You will be amazed by the

change in your child. So hang on. After die-off it will be wonderful! The

hyper,silly, aggressive and drunken behavior start to go away. Now they can

learn to stop pinching or biting. (Or whatever the behavior is that your child

does. Behaviors that make you crazy now, will be possible to get rid of with

teaching.)

>

>

> To help with die-off, you can give your child some activated charcoal (can get

at the pharmacy without a prescription) to absorb the yeast that is being killed

off. But be careful when you give it, because in addition to absorbing the

yeast that is existing the body, it will absorb medicines. So don't give it

shortly after giving meds. Die-off doesn't usually last more than a week but

can be as long as ten days. If it is really bad, call Dr. G. He may tell you

to either increase or decrease the dosage of the anti-fungal.

>

>

> Once I tried the pills myself just to see what die-off felt like. You feel

like PMS times twenty. During that time we didn't do any thing complicated. We

hung out and did things he found relaxing like watching his favorite videos. It

wasn't a time I would try to teach my son anything new. They feel very sick.

Tylenol every three and a half hours helps. Hang in there. This short terrible

time will bring great things,

> It took years for our kids to be sick and it takes years to recover. Even if

> you could wave a magic wand and make their bodies normal, you would have to

> teach them everything they missed while they were sick.

>

>

> You don't wake up one morning and BAM they are better. It takes time and it

is usually ten steps forward and two steps back. When my son was little, the

hardest thing was to keep talking to this kid who gave me no indication one way

or another that he cared about anything I said or did. You have to keep

treating them like they are normal even though they don't act normal. Don't

change the world to make their lives easier, make them change to fit in the

world. Some good advice I received from Maurice was to use everything

they like to motivate them.

>

>

>

> It is possible for our kids to be " normal " and lead happy productive lives if

they have parents that don't give up on them. You know that kid is in there,

you just have to make them come out before they make you so mad you want to kill

them. Hang in there and don't give up on them no matter how much they try to

make you. They can get better. Call me if I can help.

>

> Marcia Hinds

>

> 805 497-8202

>

>

>

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Marcia,

Just like many other parents on this chat list, you have given OUR

family so much hope as well. Would you mind sharing with the group,

how long your son was on medication, or if he still is? My son will

be 5 next month and we have been seeing small but steady improvements

since we started seeing Dr. G 1 1/2 years ago.

Just over the last 2-3 weeks, we have seen HUGE gains and are feeling

so " justified " in the protocol. To all parents out there, hang

in there! About the time we start to question the protocol, within a

week or two, we see what we call a " burst " in awareness, social

behavior, speech and more.

I realize every child is different, but I am thrilled with the

results so far!

>

> May,

>

> We don't know each other but my son has been going to Dr. G since

he was almost 5. At that time I was told by the " experts " that he

would never be okay and would probably end up in an institution. He

was in the 3rd percentile for speech when he entered Kindergarten.

Most of what I did was so I wouldn't have guilt later when placement

might have to be considered. Thank god for guilt.

>

>

>

> He now is recovered, and attends a major university. They don't

know he ever had Autism and gave him a half ride. He has friends,

drives and does all the things the doctors said would never be

possible. After you help them physically you have to teach them

everything they missed. In the beginning we have to teach our kids

everything that other kids just learn on their own. That used to

make me so mad. We used ABA in the until he could learn like other

kids. But be careful many ABA providers are just there to take your

money and aren't really doing it correctly.

>

>

>

> Hang in there medically. It sounds like you are experiencing die-

off which actually as weird as it sounds is a good thing. It means

your kid can get better. A die-off reaction is when the yeast or

virus is being killed off. It usually kicks up some severe reactions

before exiting the body. I know you are never going to believe this

because your child is acting so much more autistic, but it really is

great news. It means your child will be helped tremendously by the

meds. You probably feel like you are going backwards at this time,

and it is hard to know that you are doing the right thing. However,

when die-off is over, you will see a new kid. More focused and

alert. You will be amazed by the change in your child. So hang on.

After die-off it will be wonderful! The hyper,silly, aggressive and

drunken behavior start to go away. Now they can learn to stop

pinching or biting. (Or whatever the behavior is that your child

does. Behaviors that make you crazy now, will be possible to get rid

of with teaching.)

>

>

> To help with die-off, you can give your child some activated

charcoal (can get at the pharmacy without a prescription) to absorb

the yeast that is being killed off. But be careful when you give it,

because in addition to absorbing the yeast that is existing the body,

it will absorb medicines. So don't give it shortly after giving

meds. Die-off doesn't usually last more than a week but can be as

long as ten days. If it is really bad, call Dr. G. He may tell you

to either increase or decrease the dosage of the anti-fungal.

>

>

> Once I tried the pills myself just to see what die-off felt like.

You feel like PMS times twenty. During that time we didn't do any

thing complicated. We hung out and did things he found relaxing like

watching his favorite videos. It wasn't a time I would try to teach

my son anything new. They feel very sick. Tylenol every three and a

half hours helps. Hang in there. This short terrible time will

bring great things,

> It took years for our kids to be sick and it takes years to

recover. Even if

> you could wave a magic wand and make their bodies normal, you would

have to

> teach them everything they missed while they were sick.

>

>

> You don't wake up one morning and BAM they are better. It takes

time and it is usually ten steps forward and two steps back. When my

son was little, the hardest thing was to keep talking to this kid who

gave me no indication one way or another that he cared about anything

I said or did. You have to keep treating them like they are normal

even though they don't act normal. Don't change the world to make

their lives easier, make them change to fit in the world. Some good

advice I received from Maurice was to use everything they

like to motivate them.

>

>

>

> It is possible for our kids to be " normal " and lead happy

productive lives if they have parents that don't give up on them.

You know that kid is in there, you just have to make them come out

before they make you so mad you want to kill them. Hang in there and

don't give up on them no matter how much they try to make you. They

can get better. Call me if I can help.

>

> Marcia Hinds

>

> 805 497-8202

>

>

>

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My son, too, is one of those who is responding really well to the

protocol. He has been on it for 2.5 years, since age 3.5. I have found that

the more I keep Dr. G in the loop, the better my son fares. I know this

sounds like a " duh " , but for a long time I feared reporting little things

because I was afraid of more meds, or med changes. However, I'm learning

that Dr. G only makes tweaks that ultimately help my son to be his best.

Kristy

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Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 8:55 PM

Subject: Re: Aggressive Behavior

Marcia,

Just like many other parents on this chat list, you have given OUR

family so much hope as well. Would you mind sharing with the group,

how long your son was on medication, or if he still is? My son will

be 5 next month and we have been seeing small but steady improvements

since we started seeing Dr. G 1 1/2 years ago.

Just over the last 2-3 weeks, we have seen HUGE gains and are feeling

so " justified " in the protocol. To all parents out there, hang

in there! About the time we start to question the protocol, within a

week or two, we see what we call a " burst " in awareness, social

behavior, speech and more.

I realize every child is different, but I am thrilled with the

results so far!

>

> May,

>

> We don't know each other but my son has been going to Dr. G since

he was almost 5. At that time I was told by the " experts " that he

would never be okay and would probably end up in an institution. He

was in the 3rd percentile for speech when he entered Kindergarten.

Most of what I did was so I wouldn't have guilt later when placement

might have to be considered. Thank god for guilt.

>

>

>

> He now is recovered, and attends a major university. They don't

know he ever had Autism and gave him a half ride. He has friends,

drives and does all the things the doctors said would never be

possible. After you help them physically you have to teach them

everything they missed. In the beginning we have to teach our kids

everything that other kids just learn on their own. That used to

make me so mad. We used ABA in the until he could learn like other

kids. But be careful many ABA providers are just there to take your

money and aren't really doing it correctly.

>

>

>

> Hang in there medically. It sounds like you are experiencing die-

off which actually as weird as it sounds is a good thing. It means

your kid can get better. A die-off reaction is when the yeast or

virus is being killed off. It usually kicks up some severe reactions

before exiting the body. I know you are never going to believe this

because your child is acting so much more autistic, but it really is

great news. It means your child will be helped tremendously by the

meds. You probably feel like you are going backwards at this time,

and it is hard to know that you are doing the right thing. However,

when die-off is over, you will see a new kid. More focused and

alert. You will be amazed by the change in your child. So hang on.

After die-off it will be wonderful! The hyper,silly, aggressive and

drunken behavior start to go away. Now they can learn to stop

pinching or biting. (Or whatever the behavior is that your child

does. Behaviors that make you crazy now, will be possible to get rid

of with teaching.)

>

>

> To help with die-off, you can give your child some activated

charcoal (can get at the pharmacy without a prescription) to absorb

the yeast that is being killed off. But be careful when you give it,

because in addition to absorbing the yeast that is existing the body,

it will absorb medicines. So don't give it shortly after giving

meds. Die-off doesn't usually last more than a week but can be as

long as ten days. If it is really bad, call Dr. G. He may tell you

to either increase or decrease the dosage of the anti-fungal.

>

>

> Once I tried the pills myself just to see what die-off felt like.

You feel like PMS times twenty. During that time we didn't do any

thing complicated. We hung out and did things he found relaxing like

watching his favorite videos. It wasn't a time I would try to teach

my son anything new. They feel very sick. Tylenol every three and a

half hours helps. Hang in there. This short terrible time will

bring great things,

> It took years for our kids to be sick and it takes years to

recover. Even if

> you could wave a magic wand and make their bodies normal, you would

have to

> teach them everything they missed while they were sick.

>

>

> You don't wake up one morning and BAM they are better. It takes

time and it is usually ten steps forward and two steps back. When my

son was little, the hardest thing was to keep talking to this kid who

gave me no indication one way or another that he cared about anything

I said or did. You have to keep treating them like they are normal

even though they don't act normal. Don't change the world to make

their lives easier, make them change to fit in the world. Some good

advice I received from Maurice was to use everything they

like to motivate them.

>

>

>

> It is possible for our kids to be " normal " and lead happy

productive lives if they have parents that don't give up on them.

You know that kid is in there, you just have to make them come out

before they make you so mad you want to kill them. Hang in there and

don't give up on them no matter how much they try to make you. They

can get better. Call me if I can help.

>

> Marcia Hinds

>

> 805 497-8202

>

>

>

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  • 2 years later...

When my son started Prozac, the side effects were aggressive behavior - not

hitting people but did things he would not dare to do before taking Prozac.

Some side effects will subside over a period of time, so hope your son's bad

behavior will subside, too.

Lucy

>

> Hi. We have been on nids since April. For the most part we are doing better,

but recently my 5 year old son (aidan) has been displaying aggressive behavior.

We are on acyclovir (no change in hhv titers with valtrex or famvir) and

increased paxil to 5 mg about 3 weeks ago. He only displays really bad behavior

toward his 3 year old sister and dad. Never me. Have told Goldberg about it but

ge says continue meds - prob bc he has made some speech and eye contact

improvement. But he also hits his teacher when it's time to go (I think he likes

school).

> We have tried behavioral intervention, time outs - where he is separated from

the rest of us; also taking away his favorite toys, etc. Not sure if it's the

allergies or something he's eating. Not too much has changed besides increased

paxil dose. It's to the point I don't want him to be alone with sister. And dad

is frustrated he's aggressive for no reason. Help please!!

>

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How verbal is he? Maybe he is trying to communicate and aggression is his way of

doing it?

Is he getting any food dyes? Preservatives? " Natural flavorings " ?

Kristy

" Meera " <meera327@...> wrote:

>Hi. We have been on nids since April. For the most part we are doing better,

but recently my 5 year old son (aidan) has been displaying aggressive behavior.

We are on acyclovir (no change in hhv titers with valtrex or famvir) and

increased paxil to 5 mg about 3 weeks ago. He only displays really bad behavior

toward his 3 year old sister and dad. Never me. Have told Goldberg about it but

ge says continue meds - prob bc he has made some speech and eye contact

improvement. But he also hits his teacher when it's time to go (I think he likes

school).

>We have tried behavioral intervention, time outs - where he is separated from

the rest of us; also taking away his favorite toys, etc. Not sure if it's the

allergies or something he's eating. Not too much has changed besides increased

paxil dose. It's to the point I don't want him to be alone with sister. And dad

is frustrated he's aggressive for no reason. Help please!!

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He's pretty verbal. Can usually tell us what he needs. We thought it was that-

but he will do it out of the blue- when he's playing nicely with dad or sister.

Diet is good- we are pretty strict. It really only started with the increase in

paxil. The lower doses were ok. But we are seeing some speech gains and better

eye contact. Has anyone seen this with an ssri- good plus bad?

Meera

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> >Hi. We have been on nids since April. For the most part we are doing better,

but recently my 5 year old son (aidan) has been displaying aggressive behavior.

We are on acyclovir (no change in hhv titers with valtrex or famvir) and

increased paxil to 5 mg about 3 weeks ago. He only displays really bad behavior

toward his 3 year old sister and dad. Never me. Have told Goldberg about it but

ge says continue meds - prob bc he has made some speech and eye contact

improvement. But he also hits his teacher when it's time to go (I think he likes

school).

> >We have tried behavioral intervention, time outs - where he is separated from

the rest of us; also taking away his favorite toys, etc. Not sure if it's the

allergies or something he's eating. Not too much has changed besides increased

paxil dose. It's to the point I don't want him to be alone with sister. And dad

is frustrated he's aggressive for no reason. Help please!!

> >

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Aggressive behavior in my son is bacteria.

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> Hi. We have been on nids since April. For the most part we are doing better,

but recently my 5 year old son (aidan) has been displaying aggressive behavior.

We are on acyclovir (no change in hhv titers with valtrex or famvir) and

increased paxil to 5 mg about 3 weeks ago. He only displays really bad behavior

toward his 3 year old sister and dad. Never me. Have told Goldberg about it but

ge says continue meds - prob bc he has made some speech and eye contact

improvement. But he also hits his teacher when it's time to go (I think he likes

school).

> We have tried behavioral intervention, time outs - where he is separated from

the rest of us; also taking away his favorite toys, etc. Not sure if it's the

allergies or something he's eating. Not too much has changed besides increased

paxil dose. It's to the point I don't want him to be alone with sister. And dad

is frustrated he's aggressive for no reason. Help please!!

>

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just a thougth, My brother is taking the paxil but a different dose, he si

having some " rage " episodes he is 35 yo, he says that he feels very angry if he

misses the pill for half day, so he is back to his psiquiatric so he can change

the pill. he is been taking it for over 3 years now, but just recently he is

been having that issue. he is not asd, he has squizofrenia and paranoia.

sm

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From: Meera <meera327@...>

Sent: Mon, September 13, 2010 12:27:29 AM

Subject: Aggressive behavior

Hi. We have been on nids since April. For the most part we are doing better, but

recently my 5 year old son (aidan) has been displaying aggressive behavior. We

are on acyclovir (no change in hhv titers with valtrex or famvir) and increased

paxil to 5 mg about 3 weeks ago. He only displays really bad behavior toward his

3 year old sister and dad. Never me. Have told Goldberg about it but ge says

continue meds - prob bc he has made some speech and eye contact improvement. But

he also hits his teacher when it's time to go (I think he likes school).

We have tried behavioral intervention, time outs - where he is separated from

the rest of us; also taking away his favorite toys, etc. Not sure if it's the

allergies or something he's eating. Not too much has changed besides increased

paxil dose. It's to the point I don't want him to be alone with sister. And dad

is frustrated he's aggressive for no reason. Help please!!

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I teach students with autism. I have noticed that aggression that can seem like

it came out of nowhere, can be triggered by noises that are

uncomfortable/painful to them, but not major for us. For example, some students

can't tolerate the sound of crying or high pitched screeching. Other students

can't tolerate music or background conversation.

One of my students was on Celexa (sp?) over the summer and started stripping off

his clothes, biting, and hitting. Of course his mom stopped giving him the

drug, and he is bettter, but still working towards getting back to where he was

prior to Celexa.

When I was adjusting to Lexapro, I felt some mild nausea and headache, but it

didn't make me want to hit anybody and it only lasted 3 days. I don't agree with

waiting out a really bad reaction to a SSRI. There is a difference between " die

off " and a dive in mental functioning. With " die off " you will see some obvious

physical symptoms like changes in stool, fever, lethargy, rashes etc.

When my son tried Strattera (not an SSRI) he developed OCD, aggression, and

manic behavior. I held on for a month because I was told that was how long it

would take to see positive results. He didn't sleep and absolutely ruined any

chance he had of being liked at his new school. The damage took more than a

year to come back from and he had to go to another school where they would give

him a shot. (Teachers and administrators do not understand that this is not the

students true personality/level of functioning. They think parents are in

denial.)

Jen

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> > >Hi. We have been on nids since April. For the most part we are doing

better, but recently my 5 year old son (aidan) has been displaying aggressive

behavior. We are on acyclovir (no change in hhv titers with valtrex or famvir)

and increased paxil to 5 mg about 3 weeks ago. He only displays really bad

behavior toward his 3 year old sister and dad. Never me. Have told Goldberg

about it but ge says continue meds - prob bc he has made some speech and eye

contact improvement. But he also hits his teacher when it's time to go (I think

he likes school).

> > >We have tried behavioral intervention, time outs - where he is separated

from the rest of us; also taking away his favorite toys, etc. Not sure if it's

the allergies or something he's eating. Not too much has changed besides

increased paxil dose. It's to the point I don't want him to be alone with

sister. And dad is frustrated he's aggressive for no reason. Help please!!

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