Guest guest Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 First of all thank you to all who responded to our Valtrex question. It was all helpful. We are trying to get our heads around appropriate " snack foods " for our son that can be used in his group therapy time with other children. We have a good handle on the importance of pushing protein, limiting starches, and eliminating sugar. Having done the gluten/casein diet in the past I wondered if snacks such as pretzels needed to be gluten free since they are not whole grain. I assume potato chips while not healthy and French fries are still o:k. Does anyone have suggestions? Thank you, Martha Wood __________________________________ Wood joelkwood@... <mailto:jkwood@...> 901-415-6236 (h) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2010 Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 No coconut (is tropical fruit). No nuts at all; peanut butter as processed is the exception. NO whole grains, only corn flakes and rice crispies (kellogs). No cherries, berries, any ...erries. No tropical fruits. No dairy. A lot of meats, a lot of vegetables. Maybe goat milk or sheep milk including yogurt and plain. Check that yogurt is free of tapioca. No avocado, no melon, no watermelon. No sesame. Only white enriches wheat flour. Very limited carbs. And check personal allergies, for example my girl doesn´t fits corn flakes, but rice crispies is ok. > > I'm confused about nuts and the diet. I do know a peanut butter sandwich is OK, but when I mentioned we were trying almond milk Dr. G said no. Can someone give me the rules when it comes to nuts and is coconut milk yogurt and milk ok or is that a no? I went back to study the diet on the website and it said cheerios were ok, but cheerios are whole grain so I thought that was out... > Thank you, > Colleen > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 Karla If you speak with any allergist you will hear that allergy testing can be very inconsistent. There are often false positives and very definitely false negatives. I stressed over the diet for years and had similar arguments about testing but I found with time that two thing came to light. One, as your child's system cools off the reactions diminish (You will need to stay on the diet regardless). Two, the basics . - such as no dairy, dyes, tree nuts, whole grains, honey - Seem to be very consistent for all of the kids on this list. Bill From: Caroline Glover <sfglover@...> Subject: Re: diet question Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 8:43 AM Hi Colleen, Definitely no cow¹s milk. Some kids are allowed to have peanut butter (as long as it is the very processed kind), some are not. It depends on things such as if they reacted to peanuts on the food screen and also how they are doing... I think it¹s one of the things he may pull if he isn¹t happy with their eosinophils. For us, he has said no tree nuts (so no almond milk), even though I know the diet he posted on his website had a recipe for almond milk. Also for us, no coconut milk (those who can have soy can have can have soy yogurt...those who can have goat milk can have goat milk yogurt). You need to be aware of the sugar in the yogurt, though. It¹s probably best to make it at home and add a faux sweetener instead (and not honey!). He used to say Cheerios were OK, but now he says the manufacturer has changed something in Cheerios and now they are out. Since things are different for different kids, it¹s probably best just to make a list and send it to him and get his advice on each item during a consultation. He will give you his reasoning behind these things and that can be very helpful. Don¹t lose your mind... I know some days it can make you crazy. HTH, Caroline G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 Karla, Hmm... one of my sons was on goat milk for about a year, but then we re-ran the food screen and he had become reactive, so Dr. G pulled him off of goat milk. Now he drinks DariFree (link below). Perhaps your son was less reactive overall or my son¹s reactivity was higher on the scale. Here¹ the link for DariFree in case you¹re interested... http://www.vancesfoods.com/darifree.htm We¹re also ³no almond milk, no rice milk, no cow milk². I believe that he thinks the most dangerous food is cow¹s milk (he told me once that it was the one thing he thought my son should never have again even if he recovered. It has to do with bovine proteins. I think I remember hearing that it creates a ³shift² in the immune system. Maybe someone else can help us out on that theory (? ? Bill?). I think youŒre right about the test results not being reliable. He uses them as a guide but has told me before that there can be false positives. Along with the food screen, he uses his experience to gauge what to do. Over the years he has come to understand what food is more likely to set our children¹s immune systems off. For instance, when my son came back reactive to eggs, he said only to worry about removing them if my son had eczema. Could you do soy milk? What about Mocha Mix? In California (we were just out for a visit from from Indiana), we tried Mocha Mix for the first time and if we lived where it is available, that would be a great option. It has less soy than soy milk. It¹s with the coffee creamers in the refrigerated section. I don¹t think it has calcium added, though, and I like that soy milk and DariFree do. You might want to talk to Dr. G and ask if any of the other options are something to consider. Anyway, HTH. Caroline G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 Thanks Bill! I will keep that in mind! From: Caroline Glover <sfglover@...> Subject: Re: diet question Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 8:43 AM Hi Colleen, Definitely no cow¹s milk. Some kids are allowed to have peanut butter (as long as it is the very processed kind), some are not. It depends on things such as if they reacted to peanuts on the food screen and also how they are doing... I think it¹s one of the things he may pull if he isn¹t happy with their eosinophils. For us, he has said no tree nuts (so no almond milk), even though I know the diet he posted on his website had a recipe for almond milk. Also for us, no coconut milk (those who can have soy can have can have soy yogurt...those who can have goat milk can have goat milk yogurt). You need to be aware of the sugar in the yogurt, though. It¹s probably best to make it at home and add a faux sweetener instead (and not honey!). He used to say Cheerios were OK, but now he says the manufacturer has changed something in Cheerios and now they are out. Since things are different for different kids, it¹s probably best just to make a list and send it to him and get his advice on each item during a consultation. He will give you his reasoning behind these things and that can be very helpful. Don¹t lose your mind... I know some days it can make you crazy. HTH, Caroline G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2010 Report Share Posted July 18, 2010 In the allegy test that Dr G did for my son, it says to avoid goat milk, however, Dr G switched my son from almond milk to goat milk. He did not test positive to almond or rice but Dr G said no almond milk and no rice milk. This part is a little confusing to me. Everyting else in the diet I'm OK with, and it makes a lot of sense.  Any input is appreciated.  Karla From: aliciacuevaz <aliciacuevaz@...> Subject: Re: diet question Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 5:16 PM  No coconut (is tropical fruit). No nuts at all; peanut butter as processed is the exception. NO whole grains, only corn flakes and rice crispies (kellogs). No cherries, berries, any ...erries. No tropical fruits. No dairy. A lot of meats, a lot of vegetables. Maybe goat milk or sheep milk including yogurt and plain. Check that yogurt is free of tapioca. No avocado, no melon, no watermelon. No sesame. Only white enriches wheat flour. Very limited carbs. And check personal allergies, for example my girl doesn´t fits corn flakes, but rice crispies is ok. > > I'm confused about nuts and the diet. I do know a peanut butter sandwich is OK, but when I mentioned we were trying almond milk Dr. G said no. Can someone give me the rules when it comes to nuts and is coconut milk yogurt and milk ok or is that a no? I went back to study the diet on the website and it said cheerios were ok, but cheerios are whole grain so I thought that was out... > Thank you, > Colleen > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 I found plain sheep yogurt ( i add pear sauce), it was delicious: Dr. Goldberg approved it. But 1 hour after eating it she got big dark circles in th eyes, despite her conduct was normal. I told him and suspended it for 3 weeks. He recomends to try again after this 3 weeks and see what happens, if she get the darks circles again she won´t try this yogurt again. > > > > I'm confused about nuts and the diet. I do know a peanut butter sandwich is OK, but when I mentioned we were trying almond milk Dr. G said no. Can someone give me the rules when it comes to nuts and is coconut milk yogurt and milk ok or is that a no? I went back to study the diet on the website and it said cheerios were ok, but cheerios are whole grain so I thought that was out... > > Thank you, > > Colleen > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 , did you daugther test positive to sheep milk? in my son's allergy test results say to avoid goal milk vaz <aliciacuevaz@...> wrote: From: aliciacuevaz <aliciacuevaz@...> Subject: Re: diet question Date: Tuesday, July 20, 2010, 9:03 AM  I found plain sheep yogurt ( i add pear sauce), it was delicious: Dr. Goldberg approved it. But 1 hour after eating it she got big dark circles in th eyes, despite her conduct was normal. I told him and suspended it for 3 weeks. He recomends to try again after this 3 weeks and see what happens, if she get the darks circles again she won´t try this yogurt again. > > > > I'm confused about nuts and the diet. I do know a peanut butter sandwich is OK, but when I mentioned we were trying almond milk Dr. G said no. Can someone give me the rules when it comes to nuts and is coconut milk yogurt and milk ok or is that a no? I went back to study the diet on the website and it said cheerios were ok, but cheerios are whole grain so I thought that was out... > > Thank you, > > Colleen > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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