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I know that this isn¹t a solution to the bathroom panic, but if you have a

vehicle large enough, could you just keep a potty in there for a while until

you get it worked out? Several of my kids went through a phase where they

wanted to check out every public restroom. I put the training potty in the

back of the van and when they wanted to go, we¹d head back out to the van

instead of going into the bathroom... that stopped the million trips to

every public restroom.

There¹s also the ³jar in the car² for boys, but of course that¹s only for

#1, and since your little guy may not be able to tell you what he needs to

do, a jar might not be the answer.

Oh, I feel for you... you have a frustrating situation.

Caroline G.

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I have been through this with my 6 y.o. son, and it's awful! His whole body

would shake when we got near the restroom, and he had a few accidents. We

have a car potty, and have used it at times like this, but once we were at

Disneyland for 3 days so using the public potty was essential. I got ear

plugs for his ears, and put those in and also held my hands over his ears. I

ushered him into the restroom with my body closely behind his to assure him

I would be right there, and kept my hands firmly over his ears the whole

time. Before we went in I explained we would go in, go potty, wash hands and

leave and I would hold his ears for him the entire time.

His OCD/sensitivity was related to medications and also coming out of a

flu-like illness and I think his whole system was on overload with virus and

new meds and resulting yeast flare-up - and this last time around also blue

dye on Valtrex and bubble gum flavoring for one of his compounded meds.

Aaaahhhh! It was pushing me over the edge to see him so out of sorts, but

with Dr. G's help we got everything figured out and he's now much better

than ever before.

Kristy

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Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 2:40 PM

Subject: Re: bathroom anxiety

Hi Caroline,

Thanks for your suggestions, I appreciate you taking the time to

address my situation. The problem here is that my son has been potty

trained since he was 3 yrs old and he is now 8 yrs, so I don't want

to have to do the jar thing or the potty thing in the car since that

may become another thing we may not be able to break out of.

Basically it's all about whatever OCD type behavior will come afloat

and it's pretty much always been mostly about the bathroom in one way

or another: Loving it or now hating it! This all started with a trip

to an amusement park when he was about 4 yrs old and having an

automated flushing toilet " flush " while he was still on the potty

(which I am sure has happened at least once to all of us...) I could

explain to him that there is no need to be scared until I am blue in

the face, but he still is genuinely scared/anxious and will not

always take my word for it. He is pretty high cognitively, so he

understands most everything (abstract things...well not always as

easy). I even carry post-it notes with me to cover the sensors in

the toilet so it won't flush automatically. He had become much

better about it in the past year, having the fear almost gone until

just a few weeks when this whole thing just " exploded " really out of

nowhere and got worse than ever...

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Hi, don¹t know if these could be of any help - a few things that were

recommended recently (ds has several fears...). I just copied quotes from

people:

1. We had a similar situation here about five years ago and had

amazing results for fear of known and unknown things with mimulus flower

essence.

2. Arsenicum Album homeopathic remedy ...but also Anacardium orientalis

.... that kind of fear belongs when the GUT bacteria " Dysentery Co " is out

of balance in it's poathogenic stage causing anticipatory fears....

Btw we have only just started Mimulus Bach remedy, too early to tell if

working...

Natasa

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I have used Social Stories re: this issue and these toilets with some of my

clients. We would describe the fact that there are different kinds of

toilets -- in one case, the Mom would actually demonstrate the flush before

her daughter sat down and they would label the sound (this one is a loud

whooshy one, this one is a loud, fast one, etc.) We also acknowledged that

" I might be scared of some of the toilets when they flush. But, it's ok to

be scared. When I am scared, I can... " one child would sing a favorite

song, another child counted how long the flush was, another child chewed on

a chewy, another one had some phrase like " I might be scared, but I can be

stronger than that nasty toilet. " (he's very verbal and is able to give

himself all sort of amazing supports-) And then we always acknowledge

something good about being done using the toilet. Another child compiled a

book about what type of toilets were at different stops---and when they were

new ones.

Don't know if this will help, but I do know that if I am scared about

something (like our kids are), it is a very real feeling and there is

nothing anyone can say that will make me not feel scared. But, when I know

what I can do or have some degree of control, I feel much better.

ann

On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 4:40 PM, startics <emmy@...> wrote:

> Hi Caroline,

>

> Thanks for your suggestions, I appreciate you taking the time to

> address my situation. The problem here is that my son has been potty

> trained since he was 3 yrs old and he is now 8 yrs, so I don't want

> to have to do the jar thing or the potty thing in the car since that

> may become another thing we may not be able to break out of.

> Basically it's all about whatever OCD type behavior will come afloat

> and it's pretty much always been mostly about the bathroom in one way

> or another: Loving it or now hating it! This all started with a trip

> to an amusement park when he was about 4 yrs old and having an

> automated flushing toilet " flush " while he was still on the potty

> (which I am sure has happened at least once to all of us...) I could

> explain to him that there is no need to be scared until I am blue in

> the face, but he still is genuinely scared/anxious and will not

> always take my word for it. He is pretty high cognitively, so he

> understands most everything (abstract things...well not always as

> easy). I even carry post-it notes with me to cover the sensors in

> the toilet so it won't flush automatically. He had become much

> better about it in the past year, having the fear almost gone until

> just a few weeks when this whole thing just " exploded " really out of

> nowhere and got worse than ever...

>

>

>

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