Yeast

[Guest guest]

My son had all sorts of diaper rash problems---which I think were yeast related,

now that I know what I know....the ONLY thing that worked for us was Aquaphor.

Kim, Mommy to Josiah and iel

Then he touched their eyes and said, " According to your faith let it be done to

you. " 9:29

[Guest guest]

>

> i've read talks of yeast symptoms being stirred up from chelation, but

> what exactly do you mean by yeast symptoms and how do you know?

Info here

http://www.danasview.net/yeast.htm

Dana

[Guest guest]

This is probably in the files as it has been answered many times through the

years, but here goes again--Typical yeast symptoms are white-coated tongue,

hands in the pants from " itchies " , waking up at night with the giggles,

sometimes lots of belchiness and gassing, silly laughing for no reason, oh, and

scripting, for my son!

Barb

[ ] Yeast

i've read talks of yeast symptoms being stirred up from chelation, but

what exactly do you mean by yeast symptoms and how do you know? thanks.

[Guest guest]

Hi Dana,

I was trying GSE on myself. Everytime I had it, my stomach bloated

and I felt like a 'big pig'... sorry i can't think of any other

description

What does that mean?

thanks

miz

> >

> > What is good for treating gut yeast? Thanks

>

>

> I use GSE. I have other ideas here

>

> http://www.danasview.net/yeast.htm

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

Teeth grinding is also yeast for us.

>

> This is probably in the files as it has been answered many times

through the years, but here goes again--Typical yeast symptoms are

white-coated tongue, hands in the pants from " itchies " , waking up at

night with the giggles, sometimes lots of belchiness and gassing,

silly laughing for no reason, oh, and scripting, for my son!

>

> Barb

> [ ] Yeast

>

>

> i've read talks of yeast symptoms being stirred up from

chelation, but

> what exactly do you mean by yeast symptoms and how do you know?

thanks.

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Dana,

> I was trying GSE on myself. Everytime I had it, my stomach bloated

> and I felt like a 'big pig'... sorry i can't think of any other

> description

>

> What does that mean?

You might not tolerate the GSE, or it might be yeast die off. If you

suspect intolerance, try taking it with No-Fenol enzyme. If you

suspect die off, try taking activated charcoal 30-45 minutes after the

GSE.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Kim,

I whole heartedly agree with you in ALL of this post! I have come the same

route and really have discovered that addressing the immune system is a big key

to 'maintaining' all of the progressions our kids make.

I love VSL#3! I have also read that colostrum is good for boosting that immune

system.

Have you found any 'magic' supplement that is really good for the immune system?

I have also heard that Transfer Factor is really good for this. Right now, my

poor boy is choking down a zillion pills each morning and I sure would love to

reduce this to a 'few' well selected formulas.

Yesterday, since Mark had his ENG (which was a very cool test), I only

supplemented him in the morning with Liver Life and gave him his VSL#3. Man, by

lunch time, his speach was really, really off. After the test, we got home and

he downed his pills. This morning when he woke up, that beautiful, clear speech

was back. For how long, I don't know. So, now I find myself looking at the

'box' of supplements in wonder.... which one is it? Which one is responsible

for the clear-headedness and the wonderful speech patterns? Or, is it all of

them together?

Has anyone taken a supplement holliday and then reintroduced again to determine

more efficient formulation?

Janice

[sPAM] [ ] yeast

We have had success with removing yeast from my son's system, but are getting

ready to

do it again b/c he has chronic problems. We are having dificulty KEEPING it

out. This is

because his immune system is compromised and his body does not naturally fight

the

yeast on it's own. So, for us, finding the right combo AFTER we detox, to keep

the yeast

away is key right now. So, sometimes, it isn't as easy as once and done. Some

kids it is

and a lot of kids it isn't (b/c if you think about it, how did it build up in

the first place?

why didn't the immune system blance it first off?). One thing I will say is be

prepared for

the " die off " period. There are things you can do to minimize it or go super

slow in the

detox to minimize teh amount of yeast that is released into the blood stream

(to then be

excreted). Toxins are in the blood as the yeast dies off. This " die off " can

create havoc. It

did for us the first time and we're going to do it gentler this time. For us,

die off was

crazy, irritable behavior and him acting just plain crazy. I remember it being

an unbearble

week. It's been compared physically to feeling flu-like. It must have been a

horrible

experience for him! You can give them activated charcoal to absorb the

toxins/yeast as it

is released intot he bloodstream to reduce the die off side effects. We did

not do that. Do

you know how you plan to detox? Will you use something like Diflucan,

Nystatin? VSL#3

is a pharmaceutical grade probiotic to replace the natural flora in the gut.

We have used

three different products and have landed with this one. My son has always been

on

probiotics but still has dificulty with yeast.

I think as such with a lot of the biomedical stuff, i have seen kids become

75% better

(neurologically) and some have no reaction what so ever. This goes back to the

GFCF

discussion. Eliminating milk was the first (and best) thing we did (but again,

i've seen it

have no effect on other kids). Yeast and immune system was the second best

(though, I

wish the yeast wasn't chronic). Sorting out his immune system was key b/c if

we just keep

treating the yeast, we'll be treating the yeast for years to come. Whereas, if

we can boost

and treat his immune system, the immune system can support itself enough to

fight the

yeast on it's own. So, there are several routes you can go with this. I

suspect treating the

yeast and eliminating it would give you a good indication if it's worth

purusing on a long

term basis. If you detox him and see no difference in behavior/neurologic

functioning,

then perhaps it's not a factor for that child.

There is evidence that the brain and gut are linked but I wish they could

narrow down

WHICH kids respond to WHAT interventions a little better!!

Let me know if there's anything else I can answer. Kim

[Guest guest]

Kim & Janice,

I have Nystatin that was given to me by my pedeitrician last Thurs. I

started to give Charlie some and then he got really sick with the flu, so I

stopped. I also ordered the Three Lac probiotic to switch him to it. (I

read about it in McCarthy's book and did some research). I give

charlie probiotics daily already. But I wanted to start to get rid of some

of the yeast.

I am wondering if the Nystatin got him sick with Flu like symptoms from die

off? I have held off until he is feeling better and have not given him the

Three Lac yet.

Your thoughts?

Thanks,

Colleen

Re: [ ] yeast

Kim,

I whole heartedly agree with you in ALL of this post! I have come the same

route and really have discovered that addressing the immune system is a big

key to 'maintaining' all of the progressions our kids make.

I love VSL#3! I have also read that colostrum is good for boosting that

immune system.

Have you found any 'magic' supplement that is really good for the immune

system? I have also heard that Transfer Factor is really good for this.

Right now, my poor boy is choking down a zillion pills each morning and I

sure would love to reduce this to a 'few' well selected formulas.

Yesterday, since Mark had his ENG (which was a very cool test), I only

supplemented him in the morning with Liver Life and gave him his VSL#3. Man,

by lunch time, his speach was really, really off. After the test, we got

home and he downed his pills. This morning when he woke up, that beautiful,

clear speech was back. For how long, I don't know. So, now I find myself

looking at the 'box' of supplements in wonder.... which one is it? Which one

is responsible for the clear-headedness and the wonderful speech patterns?

Or, is it all of them together?

Has anyone taken a supplement holliday and then reintroduced again to

determine more efficient formulation?

Janice

[sPAM] [ ] yeast

We have had success with removing yeast from my son's system, but are

getting ready to

do it again b/c he has chronic problems. We are having dificulty KEEPING it

out. This is

because his immune system is compromised and his body does not naturally

fight the

yeast on it's own. So, for us, finding the right combo AFTER we detox, to

keep the yeast

away is key right now. So, sometimes, it isn't as easy as once and done.

Some kids it is

and a lot of kids it isn't (b/c if you think about it, how did it build up

in the first place?

why didn't the immune system blance it first off?). One thing I will say is

be prepared for

the " die off " period. There are things you can do to minimize it or go super

slow in the

detox to minimize teh amount of yeast that is released into the blood stream

(to then be

excreted). Toxins are in the blood as the yeast dies off. This " die off " can

create havoc. It

did for us the first time and we're going to do it gentler this time. For

us, die off was

crazy, irritable behavior and him acting just plain crazy. I remember it

being an unbearble

week. It's been compared physically to feeling flu-like. It must have been a

horrible

experience for him! You can give them activated charcoal to absorb the

toxins/yeast as it

is released intot he bloodstream to reduce the die off side effects. We did

not do that. Do

you know how you plan to detox? Will you use something like Diflucan,

Nystatin? VSL#3

is a pharmaceutical grade probiotic to replace the natural flora in the gut.

We have used

three different products and have landed with this one. My son has always

been on

probiotics but still has dificulty with yeast.

I think as such with a lot of the biomedical stuff, i have seen kids become

75% better

(neurologically) and some have no reaction what so ever. This goes back to

the GFCF

discussion. Eliminating milk was the first (and best) thing we did (but

again, i've seen it

have no effect on other kids). Yeast and immune system was the second best

(though, I

wish the yeast wasn't chronic). Sorting out his immune system was key b/c if

we just keep

treating the yeast, we'll be treating the yeast for years to come. Whereas,

if we can boost

and treat his immune system, the immune system can support itself enough to

fight the

yeast on it's own. So, there are several routes you can go with this. I

suspect treating the

yeast and eliminating it would give you a good indication if it's worth

purusing on a long

term basis. If you detox him and see no difference in behavior/neurologic

functioning,

then perhaps it's not a factor for that child.

There is evidence that the brain and gut are linked but I wish they could

narrow down

WHICH kids respond to WHAT interventions a little better!!

Let me know if there's anything else I can answer. Kim

[Guest guest]

I don't know Colleen...all I can say is the same thing happened to Cole. He got

a fever and congestion in his nose and he looked sick...very tired. That isn't

all I used though. I also used grapefruit seed extract and garlick. I thought

I might have overdone it but the doctor knew what we were using and he ok'd it.

Aggie

[sPAM] [ ] yeast

We have had success with removing yeast from my son's system, but are

getting ready to

do it again b/c he has chronic problems. We are having dificulty KEEPING it

out. This is

because his immune system is compromised and his body does not naturally

fight the

yeast on it's own. So, for us, finding the right combo AFTER we detox, to

keep the yeast

away is key right now. So, sometimes, it isn't as easy as once and done.

Some kids it is

and a lot of kids it isn't (b/c if you think about it, how did it build up

in the first place?

why didn't the immune system blance it first off?). One thing I will say is

be prepared for

the " die off " period. There are things you can do to minimize it or go super

slow in the

detox to minimize teh amount of yeast that is released into the blood stream

(to then be

excreted). Toxins are in the blood as the yeast dies off. This " die off " can

create havoc. It

did for us the first time and we're going to do it gentler this time. For

us, die off was

crazy, irritable behavior and him acting just plain crazy. I remember it

being an unbearble

week. It's been compared physically to feeling flu-like. It must have been a

horrible

experience for him! You can give them activated charcoal to absorb the

toxins/yeast as it

is released intot he bloodstream to reduce the die off side effects. We did

not do that. Do

you know how you plan to detox? Will you use something like Diflucan,

Nystatin? VSL#3

is a pharmaceutical grade probiotic to replace the natural flora in the gut.

We have used

three different products and have landed with this one. My son has always

been on

probiotics but still has dificulty with yeast.

I think as such with a lot of the biomedical stuff, i have seen kids become

75% better

(neurologically) and some have no reaction what so ever. This goes back to

the GFCF

discussion. Eliminating milk was the first (and best) thing we did (but

again, i've seen it

have no effect on other kids). Yeast and immune system was the second best

(though, I

wish the yeast wasn't chronic). Sorting out his immune system was key b/c if

we just keep

treating the yeast, we'll be treating the yeast for years to come. Whereas,

if we can boost

and treat his immune system, the immune system can support itself enough to

fight the

yeast on it's own. So, there are several routes you can go with this. I

suspect treating the

yeast and eliminating it would give you a good indication if it's worth

purusing on a long

term basis. If you detox him and see no difference in behavior/neurologic

functioning,

then perhaps it's not a factor for that child.

There is evidence that the brain and gut are linked but I wish they could

narrow down

WHICH kids respond to WHAT interventions a little better!!

Let me know if there's anything else I can answer. Kim

[Guest guest]

Colleen,

I agree that die-off can cause flu-like symptoms. If he is feeling better, I

would start him again but at a much lower dose so that he can tolerate it

easier. Keep the dose small or slowly build it up always keeping an eye to what

he can tolerate. Remember to avoid yeast feeding foods and really go easy on

juice. I tend to look for pear juice as it is not a yeast feeder.

I use a good probiotic and swear by it! I love my VSL#3. Mark is a 'big' boy

so he can tolerate that. I have heard good things about the Three Lac.

Good Luck..... go slow. It is so easy to want to really attack this thing with

all of your guns but it has to happen slowly and gently. You did the right

thing by stopping the Nystatin until the symptoms went away.

We are here during the 'scary times'.

Janice

[sPAM] [ ] yeast

We have had success with removing yeast from my son's system, but are

getting ready to

do it again b/c he has chronic problems. We are having dificulty KEEPING it

out. This is

because his immune system is compromised and his body does not naturally

fight the

yeast on it's own. So, for us, finding the right combo AFTER we detox, to

keep the yeast

away is key right now. So, sometimes, it isn't as easy as once and done.

Some kids it is

and a lot of kids it isn't (b/c if you think about it, how did it build up

in the first place?

why didn't the immune system blance it first off?). One thing I will say is

be prepared for

the " die off " period. There are things you can do to minimize it or go super

slow in the

detox to minimize teh amount of yeast that is released into the blood stream

(to then be

excreted). Toxins are in the blood as the yeast dies off. This " die off " can

create havoc. It

did for us the first time and we're going to do it gentler this time. For

us, die off was

crazy, irritable behavior and him acting just plain crazy. I remember it

being an unbearble

week. It's been compared physically to feeling flu-like. It must have been a

horrible

experience for him! You can give them activated charcoal to absorb the

toxins/yeast as it

is released intot he bloodstream to reduce the die off side effects. We did

not do that. Do

you know how you plan to detox? Will you use something like Diflucan,

Nystatin? VSL#3

is a pharmaceutical grade probiotic to replace the natural flora in the gut.

We have used

three different products and have landed with this one. My son has always

been on

probiotics but still has dificulty with yeast.

I think as such with a lot of the biomedical stuff, i have seen kids become

75% better

(neurologically) and some have no reaction what so ever. This goes back to

the GFCF

discussion. Eliminating milk was the first (and best) thing we did (but

again, i've seen it

have no effect on other kids). Yeast and immune system was the second best

(though, I

wish the yeast wasn't chronic). Sorting out his immune system was key b/c if

we just keep

treating the yeast, we'll be treating the yeast for years to come. Whereas,

if we can boost

and treat his immune system, the immune system can support itself enough to

fight the

yeast on it's own. So, there are several routes you can go with this. I

suspect treating the

yeast and eliminating it would give you a good indication if it's worth

purusing on a long

term basis. If you detox him and see no difference in behavior/neurologic

functioning,

then perhaps it's not a factor for that child.

There is evidence that the brain and gut are linked but I wish they could

narrow down

WHICH kids respond to WHAT interventions a little better!!

Let me know if there's anything else I can answer. Kim

[Guest guest]

Colleen,

Sorry if I missed this in your previous posts...did the pediatrician do

testing to determine yeast before giving Nystatin? Stool test?

Thanks

Janice <jscott@...> wrote:

Colleen,

I agree that die-off can cause flu-like symptoms. If he is feeling better, I

would start him again but at a much lower dose so that he can tolerate it

easier. Keep the dose small or slowly build it up always keeping an eye to what

he can tolerate. Remember to avoid yeast feeding foods and really go easy on

juice. I tend to look for pear juice as it is not a yeast feeder.

I use a good probiotic and swear by it! I love my VSL#3. Mark is a 'big' boy so

he can tolerate that. I have heard good things about the Three Lac.

Good Luck..... go slow. It is so easy to want to really attack this thing with

all of your guns but it has to happen slowly and gently. You did the right thing

by stopping the Nystatin until the symptoms went away.

We are here during the 'scary times'.

Janice

[sPAM] [ ] yeast

We have had success with removing yeast from my son's system, but are

getting ready to

do it again b/c he has chronic problems. We are having dificulty KEEPING it

out. This is

because his immune system is compromised and his body does not naturally

fight the

yeast on it's own. So, for us, finding the right combo AFTER we detox, to

keep the yeast

away is key right now. So, sometimes, it isn't as easy as once and done.

Some kids it is

and a lot of kids it isn't (b/c if you think about it, how did it build up

in the first place?

why didn't the immune system blance it first off?). One thing I will say is

be prepared for

the " die off " period. There are things you can do to minimize it or go super

slow in the

detox to minimize teh amount of yeast that is released into the blood stream

(to then be

excreted). Toxins are in the blood as the yeast dies off. This " die off " can

create havoc. It

did for us the first time and we're going to do it gentler this time. For

us, die off was

crazy, irritable behavior and him acting just plain crazy. I remember it

being an unbearble

week. It's been compared physically to feeling flu-like. It must have been a

horrible

experience for him! You can give them activated charcoal to absorb the

toxins/yeast as it

is released intot he bloodstream to reduce the die off side effects. We did

not do that. Do

you know how you plan to detox? Will you use something like Diflucan,

Nystatin? VSL#3

is a pharmaceutical grade probiotic to replace the natural flora in the gut.

We have used

three different products and have landed with this one. My son has always

been on

probiotics but still has dificulty with yeast.

I think as such with a lot of the biomedical stuff, i have seen kids become

75% better

(neurologically) and some have no reaction what so ever. This goes back to

the GFCF

discussion. Eliminating milk was the first (and best) thing we did (but

again, i've seen it

have no effect on other kids). Yeast and immune system was the second best

(though, I

wish the yeast wasn't chronic). Sorting out his immune system was key b/c if

we just keep

treating the yeast, we'll be treating the yeast for years to come. Whereas,

if we can boost

and treat his immune system, the immune system can support itself enough to

fight the

yeast on it's own. So, there are several routes you can go with this. I

suspect treating the

yeast and eliminating it would give you a good indication if it's worth

purusing on a long

term basis. If you detox him and see no difference in behavior/neurologic

functioning,

then perhaps it's not a factor for that child.

There is evidence that the brain and gut are linked but I wish they could

narrow down

WHICH kids respond to WHAT interventions a little better!!

Let me know if there's anything else I can answer. Kim

[Guest guest]

I am trying to phase out some gluten and dairy from my son's diet. So far I

have had luck with the dairy free ice cream, it is hard when your child has

somewhat of a limited diet. I was wondering, can an over consumption of

yeast cause a red butt, almost like a diaper rash? It seems to clear up when

anti

fungal cream is used?

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Hi ,

That is the yeast coming out. went through the same thing. His urine

probably has somewhat of an ordor to it as well.

Sue

Re: [ ] Yeast

I am trying to phase out some gluten and dairy from my son's diet. So far I

have had luck with the dairy free ice cream, it is hard when your child has

somewhat of a limited diet. I was wondering, can an over consumption of

yeast cause a red butt, almost like a diaper rash? It seems to clear up when

anti

fungal cream is used?

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,

If it is clearing with the medication, sounds like it

is yeast. I also have let them " air out " some which is

helpful for any red bottom.

Kathy

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>

> Does anyone know the signs of yeast overgrowth?

Ideas here

http://www.danasview.net/yeast.htm

My twins have small red

> bumps on their butts and sometimes on their legs. Their pedtrician says

> it is candida. Now my son 1 year old has the same thing. I am using

> Threelac for the twins but not seeing much improvement. I am wondering

> if they should be on something else?

Here is a picture of one type of rash that my #3 and #4 had. It looks

like a yeast rash, but this one was viral. Lysine eliminated it

http://www.danasview.net/3_rash.jpg

> I have been reading all the postings. I am amazed how much everyone

> knows. How did you start the enzymes? Where can I find the information?

This site is good for enzyme info

http://www.enzymestuff.com/

Dana

[Guest guest]

Does antiviral treatment kick up yeast? I know Dr. G isn't a huge fan

of GSE, but are there other treatments those of you may have used with

success, such as biotin and probiotics?

TIA,

Robyn

[Guest guest]

Found this is my archives also..

* Vaginal Yeast Infection

* Constant fatigue

* Oral Thrush (white film in mouth or on tongue)

* Abdominal pain

* Bloating and indigestion

* Joint pain with arthritis-like symptoms

* Chronic sinus drainage -which antibiotics don't help!

* Weight loss OR gain and the inability to change it.

* Brain " fog " -easily feel overwhelmed by mental tasks

* Fungus on the fingernails or toenails

* Urinary infections (again, not helped by antibiotics)

* red, itching eyes

* Skin rashes on the body (eczema, atopic dermatitis)

* Anal itching

* Rashes on or around the sexual organs

* Hair loss

* Depression from feeling " bogged down " all the time.

Ari,

Above are symptoms of yeast infection...there are more. you can google

and find many sites.

If you aren't taking about 4-6 times what the bottle of probiotics

suggests, you could have yeast. Even taking probiotics doesn't

guarantee you won't get it, especially with the 200mg daily and any

iv's or additional abx.

Increased dose is most likely a herx. Herxing means you are killing

off more bugs and you probably need the increase. just cut back on

the abx one day and see if the symptoms get better. Increase the dose

slowly to avoid having hard herxes, like only add 100mg per week and

wait 2 weeks to add more.

If you think you are having die off, try the lemon, olive oil drink.

Or, drink lemon slices in water all day for a couple of days. They

both work great. i recently had die off from oregano oil i was using

for yeast. Lemon drinks did the trick! Also good are the peroxide

baths and foot soaks. Benedryl at bedtime helps too, wipes up the

hystemines left from die off, and usually makes you sleep =)

Jan