Re: Environmental allergies, allergy shots, and a cheese question

[Guest guest]

Dr. G doesn't like most of the replacement cheeses as they usually

contain something he doesn't want you having. If you can have goat

milk, Woolwich Farms makes a yummy goat milk mozarella that we put on

my son's pizza and he loves it. I buy it from WF.

Cheryl

On Jul 13, 2008, at 7:16 AM, marthawood@... wrote:

> Hello all,

> I need some counsel. Our recent visit to the allergist revealed

> that our ASD fella is off the chart with environmental allergies

> which would explain his very high IGE result. He also has

> anaphylactic food allergies. The allergist has instructed us to

> begin allergy shots next week. He is almost 3 1/2. When I ran all

> this information by Dr. G via e-mail he responded quickly saying an

> absolute no to the allergy shots but a yes to the prescribed

> allegra. There was no time for explanation and our next phone

> consult is two weeks away. I can understand why he would say no to

> introducing the food allergens at low levels through the

> shots . . . but why the environmental allergens? Does anyone have a

> similar situation?

>

> Also . . . I cannot find a " legal " cheese to top our GFCF pizza

> with. We have only Whole Foods in town. Does anyone know a brand or

> type of cheese that I can use?

>

> Thanks,

>

> Martha

>

>

[Guest guest]

Martha

I just went through this. I spoke with Dr, G and also consulted with Dr

Klimas that sits on the board and is a proffessor, an immunologist and an

allergist with the UofM school of Mrdicine. (and my sister luckly) The reason

why you can not introduce the shots is because they are actually very small

doses of the things your son is allergic to. The treatment is to de-sensitize

your child to the allergen by introducing them to his system very slowly over

time. Unfortunately they will additionally trigger an immune response that will

increase the inflamation to the brian that Dr G is trying to reduce.

Enviromental allergies can be readly block using Claratine or Zertec with no

immune respose. We additionally use nasalcrom with good success, Dr K is a

reasearcher in CSF that deals with the same immune issues that Autism does and

she runs a alery clinic at U of M as well. She understands both problems and

reconizes how they effect each other. Do not

give the shots.

Bill

> From: marthawood@... <marthawood@...>

> Subject: Environmental allergies, allergy shots, and a cheese question

>

> Date: Sunday, July 13, 2008, 10:16 AM

> Hello all,

> I need some counsel. Our recent visit to the allergist

> revealed that our ASD fella is off the chart with

> environmental allergies which would explain his very high

> IGE result. He also has anaphylactic food allergies. The

> allergist has instructed us to begin allergy shots next

> week. He is almost 3 1/2. When I ran all this information

> by Dr. G via e-mail he responded quickly saying an absolute

> no to the allergy shots but a yes to the prescribed allegra.

> There was no time for explanation and our next phone consult

> is two weeks away. I can understand why he would say no to

> introducing the food allergens at low levels through the

> shots . . . but why the environmental allergens? Does

> anyone have a similar situation?

>

> Also . . . I cannot find a " legal " cheese to top

> our GFCF pizza with. We have only Whole Foods in town. Does

> anyone know a brand or type of cheese that I can use?

>

> Thanks,

>

> Martha

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much for your response, Bill. This makes sense to me. Now I have

something valid to tell our allergist when I cancel our allergy shot order

tomorrow. Hopefully zyrtec or claritin will do the trick to calm down his

environmental allergies.

Thanks again.

Martha

--------- Environmental allergies, allergy shots, and a cheese question

>

> Date: Sunday, July 13, 2008, 10:16 AM

> Hello all,

> I need some counsel. Our recent visit to the allergist

> revealed that our ASD fella is off the chart with

> environmental allergies which would explain his very high

> IGE result. He also has anaphylactic food allergies. The

> allergist has instructed us to begin allergy shots next

> week. He is almost 3 1/2. When I ran all this information

> by Dr. G via e-mail he responded quickly saying an absolute

> no to the allergy shots but a yes to the prescribed allegra.

> There was no time for explanation and our next phone consult

> is two weeks away. I can understand why he would say no to

> introducing the food allergens at low levels through the

> shots . . . but why the environmental allergens? Does

> anyone have a similar situation?

>

> Also . . . I cannot find a " legal " cheese to top

> our GFCF pizza with. We have only Whole Foods in town. Does

> anyone know a brand or type of cheese that I can use?

>

> Thanks,

>

> Martha

>

>

[Guest guest]

Martha,

If you have a Sam¹s Club or Meijer, they may carry a sheep¹s milk cheese

called ³Manchego². It¹s not cheap but is similar to mozzarella and might be

the answer for you. Make sure it¹s pasteurized or Dr. G will not OK it. If

Manchego won¹t work, our old trick was to cut the corner off of a ziploc bag

and use it to drizzle Hellmann¹s mayo over the pizza... it¹s pretty good,

although it doesn¹t ³glue² the toppings to the pizza as well as cheese.

As far as the allergy shots, Dr. G once explained to me that when you give

allergy shots, the result is that the immune system is being is ³tricked²

into reacting in a different way. He said that he thought it was bad idea

to ³trick² our children¹s already dysfunctional immune systems.

This link may give you an idea of what he meant...

http://www.intelihealth.com/IH/ihtIH/E/7945/32106/351608.html?d=dmtContent

Basically, you¹re making changes in the immune system. It still reacts to

allergens but reacts in a way that doesn¹t cause the outward symptoms we

think of.

By the way, if you haven¹t read this book on food allergies, I think you

might love it...

³Understanding and Managing Your Child's Food Allergies² by Sicherer

(it¹s a s Hopkins Press Health Book)

I wish I had read it with a highlighter in hand.

You can get the paperback for $12.89 on Amazon or better yet request it at

your library if they don¹t have it there yet.

Cheers,

Caroline G.

From: <marthawood@...>

Reply-< >

Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 14:16:45 +0000

< >

Subject: Environmental allergies, allergy shots, and a cheese

question

Hello all,

I need some counsel. Our recent visit to the allergist revealed that our ASD

fella is off the chart with environmental allergies which would explain his

very high IGE result. He also has anaphylactic food allergies. The allergist

has instructed us to begin allergy shots next week. He is almost 3 1/2. When

I ran all this information by Dr. G via e-mail he responded quickly saying

an absolute no to the allergy shots but a yes to the prescribed allegra.

There was no time for explanation and our next phone consult is two weeks

away. I can understand why he would say no to introducing the food allergens

at low levels through the shots . . . but why the environmental allergens?

Does anyone have a similar situation?

Also . . . I cannot find a " legal " cheese to top our GFCF pizza with. We

have only Whole Foods in town. Does anyone know a brand or type of cheese

that I can use?

Thanks,

Martha

[Guest guest]

Mmmm, manchego, mmmmmm..... I love the stuff! You can get it at WF,

too.

Cheryl

On Jul 13, 2008, at 2:28 PM, Caroline Glover wrote:

> Martha,

>

> If you have a Sam’s Club or Meijer, they may carry a sheep’s milk

> cheese

> called “Manchego”. It’s not cheap but is similar to mozzarella and

> might be

> the answer for you. Make sure it’s pasteurized or Dr. G will not

> OK it. If

> Manchego won’t work, our old trick was to cut the corner off of a

> ziploc bag

> and use it to drizzle Hellmann’s mayo over the pizza... it’s pretty

> good,

> although it doesn’t “glue” the toppings to the pizza as well as

> cheese.

>

> As far as the allergy shots, Dr. G once explained to me that when

> you give

> allergy shots, the result is that the immune system is being is

> “tricked”

> into reacting in a different way. He said that he thought it was

> bad idea

> to “trick” our children’s already dysfunctional immune systems.

>

> This link may give you an idea of what he meant...

>

> http://www.intelihealth.com/IH/ihtIH/E/7945/32106/351608.html?

> d=dmtContent

>

> Basically, you’re making changes in the immune system. It still

> reacts to

> allergens but reacts in a way that doesn’t cause the outward

> symptoms we

> think of.

>

> By the way, if you haven’t read this book on food allergies, I

> think you

> might love it...

>

> “Understanding and Managing Your Child's Food Allergies” by

> Sicherer

>

> (it’s a s Hopkins Press Health Book)

>

> I wish I had read it with a highlighter in hand.

>

> You can get the paperback for $12.89 on Amazon or better yet

> request it at

> your library if they don’t have it there yet.

>

> Cheers,

> Caroline G.

>

>

>

> From: <marthawood@...>

> Reply-< >

> Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 14:16:45 +0000

> < >

> Subject: Environmental allergies, allergy shots, and a cheese

> question

>

> Hello all,

> I need some counsel. Our recent visit to the allergist revealed

> that our ASD

> fella is off the chart with environmental allergies which would

> explain his

> very high IGE result. He also has anaphylactic food allergies. The

> allergist

> has instructed us to begin allergy shots next week. He is almost 3

> 1/2. When

> I ran all this information by Dr. G via e-mail he responded quickly

> saying

> an absolute no to the allergy shots but a yes to the prescribed

> allegra.

> There was no time for explanation and our next phone consult is two

> weeks

> away. I can understand why he would say no to introducing the food

> allergens

> at low levels through the shots . . . but why the environmental

> allergens?

> Does anyone have a similar situation?

>

> Also . . . I cannot find a " legal " cheese to top our GFCF pizza

> with. We

> have only Whole Foods in town. Does anyone know a brand or type of

> cheese

> that I can use?

>

> Thanks,

>

> Martha

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Martha

Do connect with Dr G about the antihistamines. We had adverse reaction with

Claradine and switched to Zyrtec. Ever kid is different and your observations

are the most important what makes Dr G's approach special is none of his

patients have a blanket protocol. The primary indicator is the immune response.

This tells you you are doing something wrong. ID'ing what is escalating he

reaction is the hard part. Your allergist is reacting to what happens across the

board, that's not you kid, they are all different

This is a post that I sent last month that may explain

In response to your question was my kid sick all the time the answer is both yes

and no. He was actually never sick in the traditional sense. Few colds one or

two ear infections always bounced back real fast. Never ran a temperature for

any of it. Healthy no, He had terrible bouts with digestive track problems,

probably had many viral and bacterial based illnesses that were never diagnosed

by his PED because he never show any of the outward signs of illness. His immune

system was not reacting/recognizing g them. Two year ago on Christmas the entire

household came down with a terrible flu. Fever, sore throat, intestinal

nightmares. Tough stuff my wife and I were in bed for two weeks off and on.- my

son had none of the outward signs but his behavior went to hell and back. He had

it first, brought it home from school, I took him to his PED and she could find

nothing wrong. No temp, slightly " Raw " looking throat, He was sick, miserable

and as usual not

diagnosed.

This has been going on for years,

Now as his labs become normal and he is developing speech he will tell me he has

a headache or tooth ache and we can deal with it and not just the behavior that

we did not understand.

One of the most recent leaps forward was last month when I took him to his first

horseback riding lesson. It started with him brushing an animal whose back was

even with Connor's nose, within minutes his eyes had turn very red, nose watered

and his face started to swell. I got an antihistamine in him in a hurry and got

him in the pool and it all settled back down. Real scary.

The outcome was we started him om Claritin and a nasal inhibitor and suddenly we

made a quantum leap forward with language. We have been so concerned with food

allergies for so long we were ignoring environmental allergies. Another piece of

the puzzle dealt with. He is doing great and will be in his first general ed

classes in he fall.

Environmental allergies, allergy

> shots, and a cheese question

> >

> > Date: Sunday, July 13, 2008, 10:16 AM

> > Hello all,

> > I need some counsel. Our recent visit to the allergist

> > revealed that our ASD fella is off the chart with

> > environmental allergies which would explain his very

> high

> > IGE result. He also has anaphylactic food allergies.

> The

> > allergist has instructed us to begin allergy shots

> next

> > week. He is almost 3 1/2. When I ran all this

> information

> > by Dr. G via e-mail he responded quickly saying an

> absolute

> > no to the allergy shots but a yes to the prescribed

> allegra.

> > There was no time for explanation and our next phone

> consult

> > is two weeks away. I can understand why he would say

> no to

> > introducing the food allergens at low levels through

> the

> > shots . . . but why the environmental allergens? Does

> > anyone have a similar situation?

> >

> > Also . . . I cannot find a " legal " cheese to

> top

> > our GFCF pizza with. We have only Whole Foods in town.

> Does

> > anyone know a brand or type of cheese that I can use?

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Martha

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I'm very interested in hearing more about your sons " story " .  How old is he &

how long was he without language or was it just minimal?  Did you do anything

else to help with speech or just getting him healthy & immune system under

control (not that that is not a huge deal!)?  Thanks-

>

> > From: marthawoodcomcast (DOT) net

> <marthawoodcomcast (DOT) net>

> > Subject: Environmental allergies, allergy

> shots, and a cheese question

> > groups (DOT) com

> > Date: Sunday, July 13, 2008, 10:16 AM

> > Hello all,

> > I need some counsel. Our recent visit to the allergist

> > revealed that our ASD fella is off the chart with

> > environmental allergies which would explain his very

> high

> > IGE result. He also has anaphylactic food allergies.

> The

> > allergist has instructed us to begin allergy shots

> next

> > week. He is almost 3 1/2. When I ran all this

> information

> > by Dr. G via e-mail he responded quickly saying an

> absolute

> > no to the allergy shots but a yes to the prescribed

> allegra.

> > There was no time for explanation and our next phone

> consult

> > is two weeks away. I can understand why he would say

> no to

> > introducing the food allergens at low levels through

> the

> > shots . . . but why the environmental allergens? Does

> > anyone have a similar situation?

> >

> > Also . . . I cannot find a " legal " cheese to

> top

> > our GFCF pizza with. We have only Whole Foods in town.

> Does

> > anyone know a brand or type of cheese that I can use?

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Martha

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much. All of this information is so helpful. I will get the book

right away and will look for the sheep cheese. Thank you also for the link about

allergy shots. This makes sense to me.

Thanks again for your helpful response.

Martha

--------- Environmental allergies, allergy shots, and a cheese

question

Hello all,

I need some counsel. Our recent visit to the allergist revealed that our ASD

fella is off the chart with environmental allergies which would explain his

very high IGE result. He also has anaphylactic food allergies. The allergist

has instructed us to begin allergy shots next week. He is almost 3 1/2. When

I ran all this information by Dr. G via e-mail he responded quickly saying

an absolute no to the allergy shots but a yes to the prescribed allegra.

There was no time for explanation and our next phone consult is two weeks

away. I can understand why he would say no to introducing the food allergens

at low levels through the shots . . . but why the environmental allergens?

Does anyone have a similar situation?

Also . . . I cannot find a " legal " cheese to top our GFCF pizza with. We

have only Whole Foods in town. Does anyone know a brand or type of cheese

that I can use?

Thanks,

Martha

[Guest guest]

No, it means there is a latent HHV6 infection that the immune system

is not dealing with properly. Not an active infection. If it were

an active infection IgM would not be normal and you would have seen

the tell tale signs of Roseola - rash, fever and fussiness. I

thought I answered this one already? Am I going crazy? Maybe it was

a X-post...

cheryl

On Jul 13, 2008, at 6:00 PM, marthawood@... wrote:

> can anyone help with these test results for hhv 6 titers

>

> igg - 1:640 very high range is <1:180

>

> igm was normal

>

> What does this mean, an active infection?

>

>

>

> Re: success

>

> Thanks for your reply. It is very encouraging! I agree

> wholeheartedly about the medical world; I never even bother asking

> our pediatrician questions about anything autism because it's

> pointless. My son's pediatrician, whom is a great guy, I believe

> was the last to know about my son's diagnosis as he assured me he

> was fine all the way along. We have started with a DAN doctor a few

> years ago and have seen some progress but I am truly wondering if

> there is something more. My son is not sickly. He does not get sick

> very often at all and when he does, he bounces right back within a

> day. I'm more concerned with his immune system in general and

> intestinal yeast. He has a little pot belly and always has. He has

> food allergies and regular al

[Guest guest]

Bill,

What were your son's symptoms that now seem that they were related to an

environmental allergies??

My daughter's history sounds so similar to what you are describing

about Connor in terms of illness. An example is I got a terrible case

of pink eye and my other daughter had a bad cold at the time. She did

not end up getting either illness but, in retrospect, it marks the

beginning a big path of regression. We have also seen more improvements

in the late fall and winter generally and regression in the spring which

has made me wonder about environmental allergies.

Bill klimas wrote:

> Martha

> Do connect with Dr G about the antihistamines. We had adverse reaction

> with Claradine and switched to Zyrtec. Ever kid is different and your

> observations are the most important what makes Dr G's approach special

> is none of his patients have a blanket protocol. The primary indicator

> is the immune response. This tells you you are doing something wrong.

> ID'ing what is escalating he reaction is the hard part. Your allergist

> is reacting to what happens across the board, that's not you kid, they

> are all different

> This is a post that I sent last month that may explain

>

> In response to your question was my kid sick all the time the answer

> is both yes and no. He was actually never sick in the traditional

> sense. Few colds one or two ear infections always bounced back real

> fast. Never ran a temperature for any of it. Healthy no, He had

> terrible bouts with digestive track problems, probably had many viral

> and bacterial based illnesses that were never diagnosed by his PED

> because he never show any of the outward signs of illness. His immune

> system was not reacting/recognizing g them. Two year ago on Christmas

> the entire household came down with a terrible flu. Fever, sore

> throat, intestinal nightmares. Tough stuff my wife and I were in bed

> for two weeks off and on.- my son had none of the outward signs but

> his behavior went to hell and back. He had it first, brought it home

> from school, I took him to his PED and she could find nothing wrong.

> No temp, slightly " Raw " looking throat, He was sick, miserable and as

> usual not

> diagnosed.

>

> This has been going on for years,

>

> Now as his labs become normal and he is developing speech he will tell

> me he has a headache or tooth ache and we can deal with it and not

> just the behavior that we did not understand.

>

> One of the most recent leaps forward was last month when I took him to

> his first horseback riding lesson. It started with him brushing an

> animal whose back was even with Connor's nose, within minutes his eyes

> had turn very red, nose watered and his face started to swell. I got

> an antihistamine in him in a hurry and got him in the pool and it all

> settled back down. Real scary.

>

> The outcome was we started him om Claritin and a nasal inhibitor and

> suddenly we made a quantum leap forward with language. We have been so

> concerned with food allergies for so long we were ignoring

> environmental allergies. Another piece of the puzzle dealt with. He is

> doing great and will be in his first general ed classes in he fall.

>

> Environmental allergies, allergy

> > shots, and a cheese question

> > > <mailto:%40>

> > > Date: Sunday, July 13, 2008, 10:16 AM

> > > Hello all,

> > > I need some counsel. Our recent visit to the allergist

> > > revealed that our ASD fella is off the chart with

> > > environmental allergies which would explain his very

> > high

> > > IGE result. He also has anaphylactic food allergies.

> > The

> > > allergist has instructed us to begin allergy shots

> > next

> > > week. He is almost 3 1/2. When I ran all this

> > information

> > > by Dr. G via e-mail he responded quickly saying an

> > absolute

> > > no to the allergy shots but a yes to the prescribed

> > allegra.

> > > There was no time for explanation and our next phone

> > consult

> > > is two weeks away. I can understand why he would say

> > no to

> > > introducing the food allergens at low levels through

> > the

> > > shots . . . but why the environmental allergens? Does

> > > anyone have a similar situation?

> > >

> > > Also . . . I cannot find a " legal " cheese to

> > top

> > > our GFCF pizza with. We have only Whole Foods in town.

> > Does

> > > anyone know a brand or type of cheese that I can use?

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> > > Martha

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

,

Glad to share. Our son developed typically in every way until 12 months. He

babbled as a baby but never talked. Like many others we were told by our

Pediatrician not to worry about the language since he is the youngest of three

boys. At 15 months we were getting nervous and noticed he was not responding

consistently to his name. We had his hearing tested which came back normal. We

did not realize it at the time but he was also beginning to stim by spinning hot

wheel cars. By 18 months we were in the process of seeking early intervention

never dreaming it could be ASD. For the next few months we had him in speech

therapy only. By age 2 and 2 months I knew that this was serious since no

language had emerged. At two he began OT along with speech. By 2 1/2 he could

only say " eat " . We put him in a special early intervention school designed for

ASD children and slowly started ABA (only 5 hours). If I could do it over again

I would have been more agressive with ABA.

We also knew that he had anaphylactic food allergies by 18 months.

He is hardly ever sick. And has a high tolerance for pain. (ie. ear infections)

He is also extremely docile, compliant, and loves to be held and snuggled with.

I suspected early on that all of this had to be related to our dysfunctional

autoimmune history but of course could not find a local Dr. to help.

He is now approaching age 3 1/2 and his language started coming in a few months

ago. We are up to 75 words at least but all language requires prompting. The

language started coming in before we saw Dr. Goldberg but I do think the meds he

has us on have helped him move through his ABA drills faster and perhaps

accelerated other areas of development. By the way we have ramped up ABA hours

to 17-20 each week, do OT and speech, and REI listening therapy. (the language

came after starting REI)

Dr. G tells us he does not have ASD but Immune Dysfunction Disorder. I hope he

is right but until he is " recovered " we are giving him the therapy that is

recommended for ASD children. We are cautiously optimistic.

I hope this helps.

Martha

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[Guest guest]

What about having the environmental allergy tests done to see if

there is possibly something that could be removed or eliminated from

the home? I understand the reason for no allergy shots, but am

looking for answers as to why my son has sneezing fits and a clear

runny nose a lot of the time. We're doing all of the recommended

things, but he still has these problems.

Shona

>

> > From: marthawood@... <marthawood@...>

> > Subject: Environmental allergies, allergy shots, and a

cheese question

> >

> > Date: Sunday, July 13, 2008, 10:16 AM

> > Hello all,

> > I need some counsel. Our recent visit to the allergist

> > revealed that our ASD fella is off the chart with

> > environmental allergies which would explain his very high

> > IGE result. He also has anaphylactic food allergies. The

> > allergist has instructed us to begin allergy shots next

> > week. He is almost 3 1/2. When I ran all this information

> > by Dr. G via e-mail he responded quickly saying an absolute

> > no to the allergy shots but a yes to the prescribed allegra.

> > There was no time for explanation and our next phone consult

> > is two weeks away. I can understand why he would say no to

> > introducing the food allergens at low levels through the

> > shots . . . but why the environmental allergens? Does

> > anyone have a similar situation?

> >

> > Also . . . I cannot find a " legal " cheese to top

> > our GFCF pizza with. We have only Whole Foods in town. Does

> > anyone know a brand or type of cheese that I can use?

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Martha

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

We have always been prone to itchy nose and occasional sniffles but We started

horse back riding lesions and at the first one the trainer had Connor curry the

horse with the animals back at eye level. Within minutes Connors face swelled

and his eyed turned bright red and started to have welts on his skin. I got an

antihistamine in him and threw him in the pool and it settled down. After we

started the regiment we went back horseback riding no problem. Again looking

back I could relate old behaviors with exposure to a variety of potential

allergies. Immune stimulation can come from a wide variety or sources, These

kids react to every thing they eat, enviromental allergies make sense as well as

foods, just easier to deal with.

Bill

> > >

> > > > From: marthawood@...

> <mailto:marthawood%40comcast.net>

> > > <marthawood@...

> <mailto:marthawood%40comcast.net>>

> > > > Subject: Environmental allergies,

> allergy

> > > shots, and a cheese question

> > > >

> <mailto:%40>

> > > > Date: Sunday, July 13, 2008, 10:16 AM

> > > > Hello all,

> > > > I need some counsel. Our recent visit to the

> allergist

> > > > revealed that our ASD fella is off the chart

> with

> > > > environmental allergies which would explain

> his very

> > > high

> > > > IGE result. He also has anaphylactic food

> allergies.

> > > The

> > > > allergist has instructed us to begin allergy

> shots

> > > next

> > > > week. He is almost 3 1/2. When I ran all

> this

> > > information

> > > > by Dr. G via e-mail he responded quickly

> saying an

> > > absolute

> > > > no to the allergy shots but a yes to the

> prescribed

> > > allegra.

> > > > There was no time for explanation and our

> next phone

> > > consult

> > > > is two weeks away. I can understand why he

> would say

> > > no to

> > > > introducing the food allergens at low levels

> through

> > > the

> > > > shots . . . but why the environmental

> allergens? Does

> > > > anyone have a similar situation?

> > > >

> > > > Also . . . I cannot find a " legal "

> cheese to

> > > top

> > > > our GFCF pizza with. We have only Whole

> Foods in town.

> > > Does

> > > > anyone know a brand or type of cheese that I

> can use?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > >

> > > > Martha

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