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Patti,

We had not heard of AS until a newer doctor mentioned it after several months of

realizing our daughter, although she has OCD symptoms, she was much different in

regards to treatment techniques than most of his patients. He handed us the

Australian Scale Form and it really opened our eyes. Tori has recently seen a

developmental specialist and has fully confirmed the dx of AS. Go to the sit I

listed on my last email and print some out for the doctors. We as parents are

the

real experts on our children, it's our testimony of our child's history that

makes the dx. The problem is that the doctor has to be asking the right

questions

and has to respect the answers. Some doctors forget how to listen. It's up to us

to make them hear.

The social weakness aspects is a sign of AS, there are many others and they can

all vary to different degrees. An AS dx is not an easy one to give and I would

hope there is a certain amount of caution to any dx or label. Many parents find

it hard to grasp such a dx of AS because it is so closely tied to autism.

All the best, hope this helps,

from Canada

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> ,

> I am very curious to know how you discovered your daughter has Asperger's. I

> have suspected that my son Mat has Asperger's, but no one seems to know

> enough about Asperger's to take me seriously. Since he looks " normal " and

> has friends he must be ok. Well, his friends consist of another boy who I

> suspect has Asperger's and two other boys who are five years younger!

> Patti

>

> <<

> Hi Janet,

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> I'm supprised that you haven't heard of aspergers

I've heard of it, , but don't know what kind of condition or symptoms

it causes.

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oh yeah I know a little bit about it also

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Thanks

Any input you have would be most appreciated

And I am doing well. Thanks for asking.

Mark

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From: inharmony1111@... [mailto:inharmony1111@...]

Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 10:56 AM

Hey Mark,

I have treated a few different children diagnosed with Asperger's and have

had good results. I would be happy to discuss my experience with these kids

if

that is something that might help you any...I hope you are doing well.

Moulder

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, would you be willing to share your experience with the whole group? If not, can you copy me about this. I have also had someone interested in NF for Aspergers. Meanwhile, I have a copy of a very good paper with topographic maps from Dr. Jolene Ross who presented at the AAPB conference. If you would like a copy of this her website is www.advancedneurotherapy.com and her phone number is (781) 431-9115. Thanks,

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Thanks Any input you have would be most appreciatedAnd I am doing well. Thanks for asking.Mark-----Original Message-----From: inharmony1111@... [mailto:inharmony1111@...] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 10:56 AM Hey Mark,I have treated a few different children diagnosed with Asperger's and have had good results. I would be happy to discuss my experience with these kidsif that is something that might help you any...I hope you are doing well. Moulder

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I dug this e-mal out of my archives because I am starting treatment on an 18 year old who has Asperger's. I was wondering why T4 seems to be such a key spot?

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,

I agree with Jane on this one. I see a lot of kids with Asperger's and consistently find that T4-A2 or T4-P4, inhibiting 2-7 Hz and high beta and rewarding about 9-12 Hz to be very helpful. Sometimes I take the reward band down as low as 7-10 Hz or 6-9 Hz depending on what they find calming. I also often observe that if you hit the right reward frequency the high beta amplitude will drop like a stone ... mostly muscle tension, no doubt.

I find this protocol to be so consistently effective that I always start with it for Asperger's, regardless of the assessment.

Mark Darling

Asperger's

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Despite the value of individual assessments in the majority of cases, there seem to be some protocols that work pretty consistently with Asperger's kids. The first to try is one-channel T4-P4, reward lobeta, inhibit theta and hibeta.

I've been using this with a neighbor's son, and we are seeing dramatic results. I was told to do it for 100 sessions. We're up to about 60 and going strong.

Depending on the brainwaves, you might need to adjust lobeta for your client.

Jane

Hi Mark and all,

I have been working with a teenager with Asperger's, and following the suggestions of this group, I've been using T4-P4, although I've been reinforcing 9-12, and more recently 10-12 because he preferred it. Despite his coming for treatment once a week or less (my vacations and his), over the course of 4 or 5 months his mother has noticed some differences. For one thing, he had refused to go to school at the end of the school year and the high school gave him a shortened schedule. At this point he has a full schedule and says he doesn't mind it. So it seems to be effective.

As to why T4, perhaps it's the temporal lobe's connections with the limbic system that helps. The right parietal lobe is involved with facial recognition including the reading of facial expression, among many other non-verbal visual activities. So perhaps the T4-P4 combination helps with empathy skills, which include perceiving and processing the emotions that they see in other people. The temporal lobe is involved with visual memory, which would also be important in remembering what is learned about facial and other non-verbal cues. And the limbic connection may help them deal with the feelings brought up by the emotional connections -- for example, some Asperger's people are overwhelmed by eye contact.

Also, so many with Asperger's are overwhelmed by stimuli, which reminds me of Pete's explanation about front-back reversals -- that the parietal lobe is more like the secretary and the frontal lobe is the president. If in Asperger's, people are not using their parietal lobes enough to take in sensory information, then it makes sense that they feel overwhelmed. It's as if the president of the company has to sort the mail in the mail room, bring it to all the employees, make the coffee, clean the building, and run the company. Maybe normalizing the parietal lobe function helps the secretary come back to work. I hope I'm not stretching that metaphor!

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Hi Kelley,

My son is also 13 and its just been mentioned that he may have Asperger's.

He has dyspraxia and OCD as well.

Val

Re: Asperger's

> My youngest daughter has Asperger's Syndrome. She is thirteen and was

> diagnosed with it this year--a little late. She also has OCD. Kelley in

> NV

>

>

>

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Diagnostic Criteria for Asperger's Syndrome:

I) Qualitative impairment in social interaction, as manifested by at

least two of the following:

(A) marked impairments in the use of multiple nonverbal behaviors

such as eye-to-eye gaze, facial expression, body posture, and

gestures to regulate social interaction

(B) failure to develop peer relationships appropriate to

developmental level

© a lack of spontaneous seeking to share enjoyment, interest or

achievements with other people, (e.g.. by a lack of showing,

bringing, or pointing out objects of interest to other people)

(D) lack of social or emotional reciprocity

(II) Restricted repetitive & stereotyped patterns of behavior,

interests and activities, as manifested by at least one of the

following:

(A) encompassing preoccupation with one or more stereotyped and

restricted patterns of interest that is abnormal either in intensity

or focus

(B) apparently inflexible adherence to specific, nonfunctional

routines or rituals

© stereotyped and repetitive motor mannerisms (e.g. hand or finger

flapping or twisting, or complex whole-body movements)

(D) persistent preoccupation with parts of objects

(III) The disturbance causes clinically significant impairments in

social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.

(IV) There is no clinically significant general delay in language

(E.G. single words used by age 2 years, communicative phrases used

by age 3 years)

(V) There is no clinically significant delay in cognitive

development or in the development of age-appropriate self help

skills, adaptive behavior (other than in social interaction) and

curiosity about the environment in childhood.

(VI) Criteria are not met for another specific Pervasive

Developmental Disorder or Schizophrenia. "

>

> ,

> I am very curious to know how you discovered your daughter has

Asperger's. I

> have suspected that my son Mat has Asperger's, but no one seems to

know

> enough about Asperger's to take me seriously. Since he

looks " normal " and

> has friends he must be ok. Well, his friends consist of another

boy who I

> suspect has Asperger's and two other boys who are five years

younger!

> Patti

>

> <<

> Hi Janet,

>

> We have a 14 YO daughter Tori who has AS (Asperger's Syndrome) and

OCD

> with some mild TS. Although she was first dx with OCD, ODD, GAD,

ADD? and

> maybe OPD the strongest element is the AS. AS is sometimes not

thought

> of as a dx and can take up to a persons teen years to find. >>

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just curious what symptoms etc define Asperger's - heard it forever

but don't know what it is but that it can go with OCD

eileen

Quoting Val <magnumlady@...>:

> Hi Kelley,

>

> My son is also 13 and its just been mentioned that he may have Asperger's.

> He has dyspraxia and OCD as well.

>

> Val

> Re: Asperger's

>

>

>> My youngest daughter has Asperger's Syndrome. She is thirteen and was

>> diagnosed with it this year--a little late. She also has OCD. Kelley in

>> NV

>>

>>

>>

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Asperger's is hard to diagnose. It is one of those things where the parent

fills out forms and if the child is old enough, they fill out forms and if

the scores for " atypical " behavior tilt more to one side than the other, you

are a " winner. " I suspected Asperger's for two or three years before pushing

for an evaluation. I think that the doctor who diagnosed my daughter's OCD

suspected Asperger's much sooner but he is out of state now and no longer our

doctor. When I asked him about ways to help socially, he gave me a list

of books for parents with kids with Asperger's. I can tell the difference

between 's Asperger's and her OCD. Her OCD is much more disturbing to

her. With her Asperger's, she likes to read trivia type books and will talk

" facts " to anyone who will listen. She doesn't pick up on social cues--like

being able to tell when someone is sick of hearing facts. She has a hard time

with eye contact and is smart as all get out. All of her doctors and

teachers think she is a genius but we don't really feel like we need to have

her

tested at this time. She talks like a little adult which is cute to adults but

pretty dorky to other kids. She frequently misreads faces and looks awkward

when she is talking to people. She is very self-conscious. When she was very

young, three or four years old, she would run in circles and flap her arms

when she was upset. She also engaged in a lot of rocking and twirling

behaviors. Her OCD makes her worry. She is going through a major perfection

stage

right now and hates to be wrong. She won't turn in papers unless they are

just right and without an extra marks, etc. She worries about getting fat.

She

becomes very obsessed with whether or not she can do something. She will

get an idea in her head--that she needs to get new shoes, for example--and

won't let it go. She gets sexual thoughts stuck in her head and can't get them

out. Oh, I could go on and on. She has sensory issues as well--clothing

doesn't feel right and it used to be impossible to buy shoes for her. She

struggled with learning to tie her shoes and to tell time and will forget math

facts occasionally. OCD and Asperger's do have some overlap but I am sure that

she has both. Her sister and I have OCD with no Asperger's and just

recently, my sister-in-law told me that a friend of hers (very nicely and

without

malice) mentioned that my twin nephews were showing signs of Asperger's. It

came up in conversation--my sister-in-law describing behaviors to her friend in

the field of child development. I thought that it was pretty amazing since

my own kid had just been diagnosed with it and the friend doesn't even know

us. Anyhoo, I've rambled on and on enough. Yes, the two things are similar

but they are different enough to tell apart. The Asperger's isn't so bad: it

just explains a lot of things I really couldn't put my finger on before. We

are pretty used to the OCD and it keeps us on our toes! Good luck. Kelley in

NV

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Asperger's is hard to diagnose. It is one of those things where the parent

fills out forms and if the child is old enough, they fill out forms and if

the scores for " atypical " behavior tilt more to one side than the other, you

are a " winner. " I suspected Asperger's for two or three years before pushing

for an evaluation. I think that the doctor who diagnosed my daughter's OCD

suspected Asperger's much sooner but he is out of state now and no longer our

doctor. When I asked him about ways to help socially, he gave me a list

of books for parents with kids with Asperger's. I can tell the difference

between 's Asperger's and her OCD. Her OCD is much more disturbing to

her. With her Asperger's, she likes to read trivia type books and will talk

" facts " to anyone who will listen. She doesn't pick up on social cues--like

being able to tell when someone is sick of hearing facts. She has a hard time

with eye contact and is smart as all get out. All of her doctors and

teachers think she is a genius but we don't really feel like we need to have

her

tested at this time. She talks like a little adult which is cute to adults but

pretty dorky to other kids. She frequently misreads faces and looks awkward

when she is talking to people. She is very self-conscious. When she was very

young, three or four years old, she would run in circles and flap her arms

when she was upset. She also engaged in a lot of rocking and twirling

behaviors. Her OCD makes her worry. She is going through a major perfection

stage

right now and hates to be wrong. She won't turn in papers unless they are

just right and without an extra marks, etc. She worries about getting fat.

She

becomes very obsessed with whether or not she can do something. She will

get an idea in her head--that she needs to get new shoes, for example--and

won't let it go. She gets sexual thoughts stuck in her head and can't get them

out. Oh, I could go on and on. She has sensory issues as well--clothing

doesn't feel right and it used to be impossible to buy shoes for her. She

struggled with learning to tie her shoes and to tell time and will forget math

facts occasionally. OCD and Asperger's do have some overlap but I am sure that

she has both. Her sister and I have OCD with no Asperger's and just

recently, my sister-in-law told me that a friend of hers (very nicely and

without

malice) mentioned that my twin nephews were showing signs of Asperger's. It

came up in conversation--my sister-in-law describing behaviors to her friend in

the field of child development. I thought that it was pretty amazing since

my own kid had just been diagnosed with it and the friend doesn't even know

us. Anyhoo, I've rambled on and on enough. Yes, the two things are similar

but they are different enough to tell apart. The Asperger's isn't so bad: it

just explains a lot of things I really couldn't put my finger on before. We

are pretty used to the OCD and it keeps us on our toes! Good luck. Kelley in

NV

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I'm reading a book about it at the moment, it says it can go with OCD.

My son doesn't make eye contact, has one special interest that he focuses

on, finds it hard to make friends, doesn't like hearing loud noises or

background noises, hates the feel of certain clothes, has poor

co-ordination, poor writing, would walk out in front of a car without

thinking about it. Lots more as well.

Val

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>>

>>

>>> My youngest daughter has Asperger's Syndrome. She is thirteen and was

>>> diagnosed with it this year--a little late. She also has OCD. Kelley

>>> in

>>> NV

>>>

>>>

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some sounds close to OCD - or could my dd have a mix of things???

let's hope not!! we're still in assessment phase but I'll swing some

stuff past the therapist - she's not good at making friends actually

fixates on one kid at a park - not good with eye contact - clothing

isues, loud noises etc - i just thought it was all sensory/ocd - and

of course low self-esteem from ocd - any thoughts anyone????

eileen

Quoting Val <magnumlady@...>:

> I'm reading a book about it at the moment, it says it can go with OCD.

> My son doesn't make eye contact, has one special interest that he focuses

> on, finds it hard to make friends, doesn't like hearing loud noises or

> background noises, hates the feel of certain clothes, has poor

> co-ordination, poor writing, would walk out in front of a car without

> thinking about it. Lots more as well.

>

> Val

> Re: Asperger's

>>>

>>>

>>>> My youngest daughter has Asperger's Syndrome. She is thirteen and was

>>>> diagnosed with it this year--a little late. She also has OCD. Kelley

>>>> in

>>>> NV

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

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some sounds close to OCD - or could my dd have a mix of things???

let's hope not!! we're still in assessment phase but I'll swing some

stuff past the therapist - she's not good at making friends actually

fixates on one kid at a park - not good with eye contact - clothing

isues, loud noises etc - i just thought it was all sensory/ocd - and

of course low self-esteem from ocd - any thoughts anyone????

eileen

Quoting Val <magnumlady@...>:

> I'm reading a book about it at the moment, it says it can go with OCD.

> My son doesn't make eye contact, has one special interest that he focuses

> on, finds it hard to make friends, doesn't like hearing loud noises or

> background noises, hates the feel of certain clothes, has poor

> co-ordination, poor writing, would walk out in front of a car without

> thinking about it. Lots more as well.

>

> Val

> Re: Asperger's

>>>

>>>

>>>> My youngest daughter has Asperger's Syndrome. She is thirteen and was

>>>> diagnosed with it this year--a little late. She also has OCD. Kelley

>>>> in

>>>> NV

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

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My 11 yr old son was the exact same way when little - probably up to age 9 or

so, and then he kind of matured out of that. He was not good at making friends,

and absolutely would NOT make eye contact with anyone. I used to kneel on the

floor and get right in his face and say - LOOK AT ME!!! He still averts a

little, but is now getting quite social and things dont' seem to bother him as

much. He also has turned into a very good conversationalist -- almost a little

too good - like it is rehearsed or somethin g(because we practiced all the

time!) but it is starting to come more naturally to him. I, too, thought

Aspergers, but nope - just the OCD!

" autumn71A@... " <autumn71A@...> wrote:

some sounds close to OCD - or could my dd have a mix of things???

let's hope not!! we're still in assessment phase but I'll swing some

stuff past the therapist - she's not good at making friends actually

fixates on one kid at a park - not good with eye contact - clothing

isues, loud noises etc - i just thought it was all sensory/ocd - and

of course low self-esteem from ocd - any thoughts anyone????

eileen

Quoting Val <magnumlady@...>:

> I'm reading a book about it at the moment, it says it can go with OCD.

> My son doesn't make eye contact, has one special interest that he focuses

> on, finds it hard to make friends, doesn't like hearing loud noises or

> background noises, hates the feel of certain clothes, has poor

> co-ordination, poor writing, would walk out in front of a car without

> thinking about it. Lots more as well.

>

> Val

> Re: Asperger's

>>>

>>>

>>>> My youngest daughter has Asperger's Syndrome. She is thirteen and was

>>>> diagnosed with it this year--a little late. She also has OCD. Kelley

>>>> in

>>>> NV

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

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My 11 yr old son was the exact same way when little - probably up to age 9 or

so, and then he kind of matured out of that. He was not good at making friends,

and absolutely would NOT make eye contact with anyone. I used to kneel on the

floor and get right in his face and say - LOOK AT ME!!! He still averts a

little, but is now getting quite social and things dont' seem to bother him as

much. He also has turned into a very good conversationalist -- almost a little

too good - like it is rehearsed or somethin g(because we practiced all the

time!) but it is starting to come more naturally to him. I, too, thought

Aspergers, but nope - just the OCD!

" autumn71A@... " <autumn71A@...> wrote:

some sounds close to OCD - or could my dd have a mix of things???

let's hope not!! we're still in assessment phase but I'll swing some

stuff past the therapist - she's not good at making friends actually

fixates on one kid at a park - not good with eye contact - clothing

isues, loud noises etc - i just thought it was all sensory/ocd - and

of course low self-esteem from ocd - any thoughts anyone????

eileen

Quoting Val <magnumlady@...>:

> I'm reading a book about it at the moment, it says it can go with OCD.

> My son doesn't make eye contact, has one special interest that he focuses

> on, finds it hard to make friends, doesn't like hearing loud noises or

> background noises, hates the feel of certain clothes, has poor

> co-ordination, poor writing, would walk out in front of a car without

> thinking about it. Lots more as well.

>

> Val

> Re: Asperger's

>>>

>>>

>>>> My youngest daughter has Asperger's Syndrome. She is thirteen and was

>>>> diagnosed with it this year--a little late. She also has OCD. Kelley

>>>> in

>>>> NV

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

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Hi Eileen,

Here's the website of the author of the book, you might find it helpful,

http://www.tonyattwood.com.au/

Val

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>>>>

>>>>

>>>>> My youngest daughter has Asperger's Syndrome. She is thirteen and was

>>>>> diagnosed with it this year--a little late. She also has OCD. Kelley

>>>>> in

>>>>> NV

>>>>>

>>>>>

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Hi Eileen,

Here's the website of the author of the book, you might find it helpful,

http://www.tonyattwood.com.au/

Val

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>>>>

>>>>

>>>>> My youngest daughter has Asperger's Syndrome. She is thirteen and was

>>>>> diagnosed with it this year--a little late. She also has OCD. Kelley

>>>>> in

>>>>> NV

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

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Eileen, My dd has the " alphabet soup " diagnosis. She has been diagnosed with

everything. At her last two appointments they ruled out her pdd-nos diagnosis.

My dd has poor eye contact at times, and will also fiaxate on one child at a

playground or wherever she is. She has sensory issues as well as self-stimming

and ocd, and bipolar. She is very smart also, above average IQ-119.She has low

self esteem. You would never in a million years think anything is wrong with her

by seeing her. Don't think too much on the diagnosis! She's your daughter, and

You know her better than anyone else. Half of these doctors are not even capable

of making diagnosis. Anyone in this group could diagnose. The diagnosis usually

changes anyway. Depending on the p-doc you go to, they will either add another

diagnosis or take one away. Try going to several different doctors and you will

see that not one will have the exact same diagnosis. Commorbidity is extremely

difficult to diagnose.Your dd may

show signs of ocd, bipolar, autistic spectrum disorders,adhd etc, but it

doesn't mean she has all of them. Sometimes one diagnosis can cause all the

symptoms.

Hang in there

Hugs

Judy

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thank you - i'll just stick with OCD for now then - that's more than

enough LOL!

eileen

Quoting jchabot <jchabot@...>:

> Eileen, My dd has the " alphabet soup " diagnosis. She has been

> diagnosed with everything. At her last two appointments they ruled

> out her pdd-nos diagnosis. My dd has poor eye contact at times, and

> will also fiaxate on one child at a playground or wherever she is.

> She has sensory issues as well as self-stimming and ocd, and

> bipolar. She is very smart also, above average IQ-119.She has low

> self esteem. You would never in a million years think anything is

> wrong with her by seeing her. Don't think too much on the diagnosis!

> She's your daughter, and You know her better than anyone else. Half

> of these doctors are not even capable of making diagnosis. Anyone

> in this group could diagnose. The diagnosis usually changes

> anyway. Depending on the p-doc you go to, they will either add

> another diagnosis or take one away. Try going to several different

> doctors and you will see that not one will have the exact same

> diagnosis. Commorbidity is extremely difficult to diagnose.Your dd

> may

> show signs of ocd, bipolar, autistic spectrum disorders,adhd etc,

> but it doesn't mean she has all of them. Sometimes one diagnosis can

> cause all the symptoms.

> Hang in there

> Hugs

> Judy

>

> "

>

>

>

>

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thanks Val

Quoting Val <magnumlady@...>:

> Hi Eileen,

>

> Here's the website of the author of the book, you might find it helpful,

> http://www.tonyattwood.com.au/

>

>

> Val

>

> Re: Asperger's

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>> My youngest daughter has Asperger's Syndrome. She is thirteen and was

>>>>>> diagnosed with it this year--a little late. She also has OCD. Kelley

>>>>>> in

>>>>>> NV

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

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Hello My name is Theresa and I am married to a wonderful man with

Asperger's syndrom. I am trying to learn how to deal with it, my step

son also has the same with ADHD, and ODD so any help in learning how

this affects life in general would be great. I have tried several

things with my step son and we are dealing with the issues as best as I

can. but I NEED help in learning how to guide them to see I have needs

& feelings too Help!!

Thanks Theresa

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http://www.amazon.com/Driven-Distraction-Recognizing-Attention-Childhood/dp/0684\

801280/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8 & s=books & qid=1208198758 & sr=8-4

I live with a husband who has ADHD (possible Asperger's) and dyslexia, one son

with autism, another son with Asperger's and my youngest son who's hyperactive.

Needless to say, frustration is frequent, LOL.

When my husband and I started dating, he opted not to tell me about his ADHD

and dyslexia because he thought it would scare me off. Meanwhile I couldn't

understand why he couldn't remember conversations we'd had and even plot lines

to movies we'd watch. Finally, he told me and I was relieved (I thought I was

going crazy). Anyway, I bought a book that helped immensely. It explains ADHD in

detail (most of the info can apply to Asperger's as well). Unfortunately, I

can't remember the name of the book, but I'm pretty sure it was the one

mentioned above. I used strategies in the book in my interactions with my

husband that helped with our overall communication. I learned to do small

things, such as touching his arm or shoulder, when I needed him to focus on

certain things. I continue to use this strategy with my two sons. As far as

feelings are concerned, I find that stopping, taking a deep breath and then

calmly asking the person to put themselves in your shoes. How would you

feel if I made that comment to you?, etc.

I know how hard this is and how frustrating it is, especially for women. On

the average, women are excellent communicators and we feel sometimes as if we're

failing when we can't get them to understand what we're saying or where we're

coming from.

I wish you luck.

All the best,

Robyn

Theresa Slowik <trecats35@...> wrote:

Hello My name is Theresa and I am married to a wonderful man with

Asperger's syndrom. I am trying to learn how to deal with it, my step

son also has the same with ADHD, and ODD so any help in learning how

this affects life in general would be great. I have tried several

things with my step son and we are dealing with the issues as best as I

can. but I NEED help in learning how to guide them to see I have needs

& feelings too Help!!

Thanks Theresa

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