Amino Acids

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Hi

http://www.jomarlabs.com/

Was recommended to me but I haven't used - we are in UK they don't seem to

ship here.

Mandi in UK

[Guest guest]

Jill,

For my son, we did a 24 hour urine test and based on that, they

could tell what amino acids my son was deficient in. Based on that,

we had a custom amino acid blend created for him.

I can't remember the name of the lab, but If you would like, I can

pull some reports and try and find it for you.

> I've been reading about amino acids in a book titled Mood Cure by

Ross. She has had amazing success helping people balance

emotions. The book doesn't give any ideas for amino acid

supplementation for children with ADHD or ASD.

>

> Can anyone give me some tips on which amino acids help with what?

>

> Also how do you get them into a child?

>

> What kind of results have you seen?

>

> Thank you,

>

> Jill

>

>

[Guest guest]

> I've been reading about amino acids in a book titled Mood Cure by

Ross. She has had amazing success helping people balance

emotions. The book doesn't give any ideas for amino acid

supplementation for children with ADHD or ASD.

>

> Can anyone give me some tips on which amino acids help with what?

I have info on certain of the amino acids on this page [scroll down to

the relevant section]

http://www.danasview.net/supps.htm

You can purchase an amino acid blend at your local health food store.

> Also how do you get them into a child?

I open capsules and mix with peanut butter.

> What kind of results have you seen?

Some of them help with language, others with muscle tone, others for

other things.

Dana

[Guest guest]

i JUST STARTED MY SON ON AMINO SUPPORT FROM KIRKMAN. HE HAS A PROBLEM

MAINTAINING HIS WEIGHT AND THEY THOUGHT IT SHOULD BE THE MOST NATURAL WAY FOR

HIM TO GAIN AND MAINTAIN HIS WEIGHT WITHOUT ALL THE SUGARS

LORI

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> I've been reading about amino acids in a book titled Mood Cure by

Ross. She has had amazing success helping people balance

emotions. The book doesn't give any ideas for amino acid

supplementation for children with ADHD or ASD.

>

> Can anyone give me some tips on which amino acids help with what?

I have info on certain of the amino acids on this page [scroll down to

the relevant section]

http://www.danasview.net/supps.htm

You can purchase an amino acid blend at your local health food store.

> Also how do you get them into a child?

I open capsules and mix with peanut butter.

> What kind of results have you seen?

Some of them help with language, others with muscle tone, others for

other things.

Dana

[Guest guest]

My guide for supplementing amino acids is that we had a plasma amino acids

test done, it showed certain deficiencies and our doctor recommended ways to

remediate.

Josie

Amino Acids

Question for the group. What is the general discussion about amino

acids? Why are some of you picking one amino acid over others to

supplement with and not a supplement that has them all. This is

probably my next area to tackle and am wondering the general consensus

about this. We are currently using enzymes, have started the brainchild

minerals and vitamins and zinc and am now considering amino acids in a

couple of months. Thanks for your time, Jackie D.

[Guest guest]

We had a urine amino acid test that indicated what my son was

deficient in. We then had a custom amino acid blend made specifically

for him.

>

> Question for the group. What is the general discussion about amino

> acids? Why are some of you picking one amino acid over others to

> supplement with and not a supplement that has them all. This is

> probably my next area to tackle and am wondering the general

consensus

> about this. We are currently using enzymes, have started the

brainchild

> minerals and vitamins and zinc and am now considering amino acids in

a

> couple of months. Thanks for your time, Jackie D.

[Guest guest]

The custom blend worked wonderfully for my daughter and I was able to

increase to full dose right away with no problem.

However, I noted that the dose includes a pretty high level of B6 - which

for some people would cause hyper/ggression.

We were on all three Houston enzymes and a number of other antioxidants and

vitamin/minerals before we started.

I would try it with a No Fenol and see if that makes a difference.

If it was prescribed based in a plasma amino acids test that showed that

your child needed it, I would try to figure out whether certain things need

to be in place first/consult the doc that prescribed it and try to problem

solve the whole thing before abandoning it. The custom amino acvid blend we

have is one of the very best things we have done for our daughter. We just

retested aminos (about a year after first test) to see if she still needs

the custom blend or can " graduate " to an OTC combo.

I hope this helps,

Josie

amino acids

Hi, can anyone give me feedback on starting amino acids? We got a

custom blend for my son and the third day, even at a quarter dose, was

NOT fun--hyper, on edge, obsessing, general regression, even the usual

Rx side effect of stuttering. I'm going to stop it unless this is one

of those things where you have to ride out the negatives to see any

good. From what I've read there's a pretty direct effect.

TIA,

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi, can anyone give me feedback on starting amino acids? We got a

> custom blend for my son and the third day, even at a quarter dose, was

> NOT fun--hyper, on edge, obsessing, general regression, even the usual

> Rx side effect of stuttering.

Biotin is required for proper protein digestion, you can try adding

that, plus a protease enzyme, see if that helps. It should NOT have

the effect you describe.

Does it contain cysteine? And did your child test low cysteine?

Giving cysteine to a child who is high cysteine can cause the problems

you list.

Dana

[Guest guest]

I have done previously, Neurtotransmitter tests for my son. He always has high

GABA levels, and PEA levels also off the charts. I have been giving him Theanene

Serene for Neurotransmitter support, and also started L-Acetyl Cartine a amino

acid.

Does anyone has any information, if L-Acetyl Cartine and L-Cartine does the

same things, as in description not much difference but in price a lot.

Thanks

Josie Lecraw <josie.nelson@...> wrote:

The custom blend worked wonderfully for my daughter and I was able to

increase to full dose right away with no problem.

However, I noted that the dose includes a pretty high level of B6 - which

for some people would cause hyper/ggression.

We were on all three Houston enzymes and a number of other antioxidants and

vitamin/minerals before we started.

I would try it with a No Fenol and see if that makes a difference.

If it was prescribed based in a plasma amino acids test that showed that

your child needed it, I would try to figure out whether certain things need

to be in place first/consult the doc that prescribed it and try to problem

solve the whole thing before abandoning it. The custom amino acvid blend we

have is one of the very best things we have done for our daughter. We just

retested aminos (about a year after first test) to see if she still needs

the custom blend or can " graduate " to an OTC combo.

I hope this helps,

Josie

amino acids

Hi, can anyone give me feedback on starting amino acids? We got a

custom blend for my son and the third day, even at a quarter dose, was

NOT fun--hyper, on edge, obsessing, general regression, even the usual

Rx side effect of stuttering. I'm going to stop it unless this is one

of those things where you have to ride out the negatives to see any

good. From what I've read there's a pretty direct effect.

TIA,

[Guest guest]

Both L-carnitine and acetyl-L-carnitine are involved in the

metabolism of protein, carbohydrates and fats, as well as the

conversion of fats into energy and triglyceride metabolism. Acetyl-L-

carnitine has an added benefit since it crosses the blood brain

barrier much more easily than plain L-carnitine. It is also a potent

antioxidant with a special affinity for nerve cells, and supports

glutathione and CoQ10 levels.

On Jan 16, 2006, at 6:11 PM, jain garima wrote:

> I have done previously, Neurtotransmitter tests for my son. He

> always has high GABA levels, and PEA levels also off the charts. I

> have been giving him Theanene Serene for Neurotransmitter support,

> and also started L-Acetyl Cartine a amino acid.

>

> Does anyone has any information, if L-Acetyl Cartine and L-

> Cartine does the same things, as in description not much difference

> but in price a lot.

>

> Thanks

>

>

> Josie Lecraw <josie.nelson@...> wrote:

> The custom blend worked wonderfully for my daughter and I was

> able to

> increase to full dose right away with no problem.

>

>

>

> However, I noted that the dose includes a pretty high level of B6 -

> which

> for some people would cause hyper/ggression.

>

>

>

> We were on all three Houston enzymes and a number of other

> antioxidants and

> vitamin/minerals before we started.

>

>

>

> I would try it with a No Fenol and see if that makes a difference.

>

>

>

> If it was prescribed based in a plasma amino acids test that showed

> that

> your child needed it, I would try to figure out whether certain

> things need

> to be in place first/consult the doc that prescribed it and try to

> problem

> solve the whole thing before abandoning it. The custom amino acvid

> blend we

> have is one of the very best things we have done for our daughter.

> We just

> retested aminos (about a year after first test) to see if she

> still needs

> the custom blend or can " graduate " to an OTC combo.

>

>

>

> I hope this helps,

>

> Josie

>

>

>

> amino acids

>

>

>

> Hi, can anyone give me feedback on starting amino acids? We got a

> custom blend for my son and the third day, even at a quarter dose, was

> NOT fun--hyper, on edge, obsessing, general regression, even the usual

> Rx side effect of stuttering. I'm going to stop it unless this is one

> of those things where you have to ride out the negatives to see any

> good. From what I've read there's a pretty direct effect.

>

> TIA,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

thanks for your reply cathy

cathylynn2 <cathybuckley@...> wrote: Both L-carnitine and

acetyl-L-carnitine are involved in the

metabolism of protein, carbohydrates and fats, as well as the

conversion of fats into energy and triglyceride metabolism. Acetyl-L-

carnitine has an added benefit since it crosses the blood brain

barrier much more easily than plain L-carnitine. It is also a potent

antioxidant with a special affinity for nerve cells, and supports

glutathione and CoQ10 levels.

On Jan 16, 2006, at 6:11 PM, jain garima wrote:

> I have done previously, Neurtotransmitter tests for my son. He

> always has high GABA levels, and PEA levels also off the charts. I

> have been giving him Theanene Serene for Neurotransmitter support,

> and also started L-Acetyl Cartine a amino acid.

>

> Does anyone has any information, if L-Acetyl Cartine and L-

> Cartine does the same things, as in description not much difference

> but in price a lot.

>

> Thanks

>

>

> Josie Lecraw <josie.nelson@...> wrote:

> The custom blend worked wonderfully for my daughter and I was

> able to

> increase to full dose right away with no problem.

>

>

>

> However, I noted that the dose includes a pretty high level of B6 -

> which

> for some people would cause hyper/ggression.

>

>

>

> We were on all three Houston enzymes and a number of other

> antioxidants and

> vitamin/minerals before we started.

>

>

>

> I would try it with a No Fenol and see if that makes a difference.

>

>

>

> If it was prescribed based in a plasma amino acids test that showed

> that

> your child needed it, I would try to figure out whether certain

> things need

> to be in place first/consult the doc that prescribed it and try to

> problem

> solve the whole thing before abandoning it. The custom amino acvid

> blend we

> have is one of the very best things we have done for our daughter.

> We just

> retested aminos (about a year after first test) to see if she

> still needs

> the custom blend or can " graduate " to an OTC combo.

>

>

>

> I hope this helps,

>

> Josie

>

>

>

> amino acids

>

>

>

> Hi, can anyone give me feedback on starting amino acids? We got a

> custom blend for my son and the third day, even at a quarter dose, was

> NOT fun--hyper, on edge, obsessing, general regression, even the usual

> Rx side effect of stuttering. I'm going to stop it unless this is one

> of those things where you have to ride out the negatives to see any

> good. From what I've read there's a pretty direct effect.

>

> TIA,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

The protease enzymes ( " pro " for protein) break proteins down into

amino acids. Only some are needed through the diet, because the body

can make many of it's own. They are called the " essential amino

acids " . Eating enough protein foods with enough enzymes to break them

down should be all that's necessary, is my understanding. I think the

reason the Peptizyde (protease supplement) creates such good behavior

in my daughter is that it's not only stopping the dairy she's allergic

to from causing problems, but at the same time, by completely breaking

the proteins down into the amino acids, giving her some aminos she may

be missing, but that's purely speculation. On the Peptizyde she's a

sheer delight, days she doesn't have it, regardless of whether she's

had dairy, she's more like a normal kid - has ups and downs, gets

cranky when tired/hungry.

>

> Does anyone know how the amino acids are gotten? I am afraid to buy

any

> because they may have been extruded through tiny holes at high heat.

> How do they get the powder? Which brands can be trusted and do they

> know all the amino acids in existence?

>

>

> Parashis

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> zine:

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>

> portfolio:

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>

[Guest guest]

We love FortiFlax, it has a bunch of aminos and EFA's all in one deal.

May not work for your needs...but it's a suggestion.

>

> Anyone find a good amino acid product they like? Love some input on

> this : )

>

[Guest guest]

Ross has some recommendations re brands in the Mood Cure and the

Diet Cure books--but I don't know if the specific aminos she's

recommending are what you are looking for. Regardless, good books to

look into.

Nita

>

> Anyone find a good amino acid product they like? Love some input on

> this : )

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Anyone find a good amino acid product they like? Love some input on

> this : )

My son did well with whey protein powder. There were a few aminos

that I had to supplement separately.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Kirkman's has a nice one that actually tastes ok, it is called Powdered

Amino Acids.

Chris

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From: [mailto: ]

On Behalf Of Nita Stull

Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 9:08 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: amino acids

Ross has some recommendations re brands in the Mood Cure and the

Diet Cure books--but I don't know if the specific aminos she's

recommending are what you are looking for. Regardless, good books to

look into.

Nita

>

> Anyone find a good amino acid product they like? Love some input on

> this : )

>

[Guest guest]

>

> any one use these for there children for anxiety.My sons Dr.is

sending

> it for our son to try.Iknow trptophane is a ingrediantin it same

thing

> they say is in turkey.Is this a naturl mood stabalizer than?The

> receptionist says this will work instantly.

>

[Guest guest]

I have started to read info on and it says about abnormal a mino

acid results.

Has anyone any links or able to explain this a bit more....also where I

can find out about my son's results which were abnormal 18 months ago

and feel something should have been and should be done to retore this.

He has recently had 24 hour urine collection for amino acids and I am

waiting results.

Thank you,

[Guest guest]

This post has a " pulled together " list that looks very helpful....

/message/10560

wishing all the best, elizabeth

>

> When taking amino acids, extra Vitamin b6, minerals and water are

suggested

> with supplemental amino acid intake, as well as multiple amino acid

taken at

> another interval!

>

> THE FOUR CARRIER TRANSPORT SYSTEMS OF AMINO ACIDS INTO THE BRAIN

> Large Neutral are:

> Tryptophan, Phenylalinine, Tyrosine, Methione, Histidine, Leuicine,

> Isoleucine, Valine and Threonine.

>

> Small Neutral are:

> Aspargine, Serine, Proline, Glutamine

>

> Basic:

> Ornithine, Lysine and Arginine

>

> Acidic:

> Glutamic Acid, Aspartic Acid

>

> Unassaigned:

> Alanine, Glycine, Taurine and Cystine.

>

> There are four carrier transport systems that allow the passage of amino

> acids through the blood/brain barrier. The individucal amino acids

compete

> with each other for uptake into the brain, therefore, to maximize a

specific

> pharmacological action from a specific amino acid, individual amino

acids

> should not be co-administered with amino acids with the same

> classification - ie Tryptophan, wouldn not be co adminstered with

> phenylanine.

>

> METABOLIC SYNERGIST

>

> Methione, Cysteine and Cystine NEED B6, Vitamin C, Mg, B12 and Folate

>

> Glycine NEEDS Zinc, NA, b6 and Folate

>

> Glutamine NEEDS B6, Folate and MG

>

> Tyrosine NEEDS CU, Vitamin C, B6, Mg and Mn

>

> Proline and Lysine NEED b6, CU, Iron, Vitamin C

>

> Taurine NEEDS B6, b12, Mg and Zinc

>

> Arginine and Orinthine NEEDS Mn, Mg, b6 and Zinc

>

> Tryptophan NEEDS Niacin and B6

>

> What is needed most in the brain for brain function?

> Glutamine, Tyrosine, Tryptophan and for the hypothalmus, Phenylalinine

> Taurine, GABA, Glycine and for the pituatary, Arginine and Glycine.

>

> What is needed most in the gut?

> Glycine and Glutamic Acid

>

> Gastrointestinal system?

> Glutamine and Histidine

>

> Liver?

> Alanine, Phenylalanine, tryptophan, threonine and arginine.

>

> Some amino acids that jump at me and say, this might help autism.....

> L-Alanine

> 1. Important in Kreb Cycle, blood glucose

>

> L-Arginine

> 1. Promotes detoxification of ammonia, liver degeneration

>

> L-Aspargine

> 1. Metabolic control of the functions of cells in the brain and nervous

> system

>

> L-Carnatine

> 1. Energy Source

> 2. Vitamin C, B-6, Niacin and Lysine and Methionine work together to

> control the rate of Carnatine Biosynthesis

>

> L-Citrulline

> 1. Promotes detoxification of ammonia

>

> L-Cysteine

> 1. Antioxidant

> 2. Disease resistance

> 3. Membrane stabilizer

>

> L-GABA

> 1. Inhibitory neurotransmitter (seizure prone)

> 2. Decreases nightime urination

>

> L-Glutamic Acid

> 50% of the brain composition is represented by glutamic acid and

derivatives

> 1.Fuel for the brain

> 2. Transports potassium across BBB

> 3. Used to treat epilepsy, and Mental Retardation

> 4. Turning glutamic acid into glutamine is the only method the

brain has of

> detoxyfying ammonia

> 5. Also fires neurotransmitters

>

> L-Glutamine

> 1. Picks up ammonia in the central nervous system and DELIVERS IT TO

> KIDNEYS for deamination

> 2. Readily passes the BBB

> 3.Sustains Mental Activity

> 4. Treatment for schizophrenia, petit mal epilepsy

>

> Glutathione peroxidase

> 1. Protects cells from free radicals

> 2. Involved in carbohydrate metabolism

> 3. maintains integrity of red blood cells

> 4. protects membrane of liver cell mitochondria

> 5. Kills bacteria

>

> L-Glycine

> 1. Acts as a nitrogen pool of non essential amino acids by amination or

> transamination

> 2. simplest amino acid

> 3. effective for hyperactivity

> 4. inhibitory neurotranmitters

> 5. Conversion to Creatine, construction of DNA and RNA

> 6. Releases Growth hormone

>

> L-Histidine

> 1. Treats allergies

> 2. Treats anemia (commonin autism)

> 3. CHELATE TO TRACE MINERALS COPPER, ZINC

> REMOVES HEAVY METALS FROM TISSUES!!!!!!!!!!

> 4, Production of red and white blood cells

>

> L-Isoleucine

> Intermediate of Kreb cycle (common problem in autism, they are often

> blocked)

>

> L-Leucine

> 1. Lowers blood sugar

>

> L-Lysine

> 1. Antioxidant, NEUTRALIZES TOXINS

> 2. Assures accurate and adequate absorptions of the mineral calcium

>

> L-Methionine

> Sulfar containing-for non PST kids, but for chelators, helpful?

>

> L-Ornithine

> 1. Immune system builder

> 2. Free Radical Scavenger

> 3. Liver regenerator

>

> L-Phenylalanine

> Used by brain to manufacture norepinephrine (neurotransmitter)

> 1. Natural precuroser to catecholamines (neurotransmitters)

> 2. Treats seratonin uptake problems

> 3. Enhances alertness, learning

> (some autistics have too much of this one-for the calmer autistic,

perhaps

> needed, for the hyper, not?)

>

> L-Serine

> 1. Purine Metabolism (often off in autism)

>

> L-Taurine

> Stabilizes excitability of membranes, seizures controlled

> Long lasting anti convulsant

>

> L-Threonine

> 1. Intermediate of Kreb Cycle

>

> L-Tryptophan

> 1. Precursor to seratonin (if you have too much, not your amino acid)

> 2. Insomnia treatment

>

> L-Tyrosine

> 1. Direct precursor of thyroid hormones

> 2. Controls depression and anxiety

> 3. Antioxidant

> 4. Linked to production of melanin (lot of kiddos of antibodies

against it,

> vitaligo patches)

>

> L-Valine

> Used to treat SEVERE amino acid deficiencies

>

> Source from JoMar Labs (www.jomarlabs.com )

> 1.

>

>

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>

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> Are kids who are mercury toxic need amino acid supplements?

> Is there a broad spectrum Amino acid product that you can give safely to help

our kids?

My son needed aminos. I used whey protein powder as a general amino supplement,

and added a few individual aminos as required.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Has anyone used Bragg's Liquid Aminos? It's really considered a food, I think.

Nanci

> > Are kids who are mercury toxic need amino acid supplements?

> > Is there a broad spectrum Amino acid product that you can give safely to

help our kids?

>

>

> My son needed aminos. I used whey protein powder as a general amino

supplement, and added a few individual aminos as required.

>

> Dana

>