Re: Meds mistakes (to the group) and a question...

[Guest guest]

You guys are just the best! seemed fine this morning, and I'm

feeling much better myself in the light of day. Thanks for the great

ideas.

Funny, too, because I use the pill organizer system for trips, but it

never occurred to me to use it at home too. I feel like smacking

myself upside the head like " I should have had a V8! "

Robyn, are you saying that Noah can swallow pills? How did you teach

him? We've tried a million things with ; we even tried that

little pill-swallowing cup that you can buy online, which was

completely worthless. No matter what we do, he just always finds the

pill and gags.

Anyone?

TIA, again,

Donna

> >

> >

> >

> > >I am shaking as I write this. Sometimes, especially at

> > night when I'm

> > >tired, I find myself on " autopilot " while

> > giving my son his meds. Of

> > >course it's not intentional, but the whole process

> > has become a

> > >time-worn ritual of cutting and crushing pills and

> > " sandwiching " them

> > >in non-dairy ice cream. Well, a few minutes ago, an

> > hour after my

> > >son went to bed, it dawned on me that tonight at

> > bedtime I gave him

> > >his *morning* meds -- Famvir, Tenex, and Celexa. Thank

> > God the

> > >psychoactive meds are in sub-clinical doses and if I

> > skip the Celexa

> > >in the morning, there should be nothing to worry about.

> > >

> > >I've made small mistakes with dosing one or two

> > times before, but

> > >nothing this dramatic.

> > >

> > >I guess I'm just wondering if this has happened to

> > anyone else and how

> > >you handled it.

> > >

> > >TIA,

> > >

> > >Donna

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I got my son to swallow pills when he had just turned 4. I showed him how

mommy swallows pills. Then gave him a tiny piece of a jelly belly to

practice. That didn't work too well, so then I took a medicine syringe

filled with water and a small pill. I cradled him in my arms like he was a

baby, then put the pill on his tongue in the middle (not too far back), then

squirt in a little water. It took 3-4 times, but he 'got' it and I rewarded

him with some more jelly bellies (this time whole ones). He has swallowed

pills like a champ ever since, even HUGE ones! He has never had much of a

gag reflex, so I'm not sure if this will work for kids that have one. Maybe

you could bribe your son that if he swallows a pill, he'll get a (small)

treat, then fade out the treats over time?

Kristy

[Guest guest]

I had the swollowing problem with Connor and I explainedd that if he took a pill

he could have a spoon of nondairy Ice Cream. When he refused I put away the

icecream and gave him the meds once he was semi asleep later. In just a couple

of days he was so focused on the treat he paid little attention to the pills and

just take them. I think the problem is they are so focused on the meds that they

can't get through it. Change the focus to the treat.

Bill

> From: thefamily007 <donnaaron@...>

> Subject: Re: Meds mistakes (to the group) and a question...

>

> Date: Monday, September 8, 2008, 1:50 PM

> You guys are just the best! seemed fine this morning,

> and I'm

> feeling much better myself in the light of day. Thanks for

> the great

> ideas.

>

> Funny, too, because I use the pill organizer system for

> trips, but it

> never occurred to me to use it at home too. I feel like

> smacking

> myself upside the head like " I should have had a

> V8! "

>

> Robyn, are you saying that Noah can swallow pills? How did

> you teach

> him? We've tried a million things with ; we even

> tried that

> little pill-swallowing cup that you can buy online, which

> was

> completely worthless. No matter what we do, he just always

> finds the

> pill and gags.

>

> Anyone?

>

> TIA, again,

>

> Donna

>

>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > >I am shaking as I write this. Sometimes,

> especially at

> > > night when I'm

> > > >tired, I find myself on " autopilot "

> while

> > > giving my son his meds. Of

> > > >course it's not intentional, but the

> whole process

> > > has become a

> > > >time-worn ritual of cutting and crushing

> pills and

> > > " sandwiching " them

> > > >in non-dairy ice cream. Well, a few minutes

> ago, an

> > > hour after my

> > > >son went to bed, it dawned on me that tonight

> at

> > > bedtime I gave him

> > > >his *morning* meds -- Famvir, Tenex, and

> Celexa. Thank

> > > God the

> > > >psychoactive meds are in sub-clinical doses

> and if I

> > > skip the Celexa

> > > >in the morning, there should be nothing to

> worry about.

> > > >

> > > >I've made small mistakes with dosing one

> or two

> > > times before, but

> > > >nothing this dramatic.

> > > >

> > > >I guess I'm just wondering if this has

> happened to

> > > anyone else and how

> > > >you handled it.

> > > >

> > > >TIA,

> > > >

> > > >Donna

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

My suggestion is to use your ABA therapist and tic tacs to work on

swallowing pills. We tried the cup before and it did not work for

us, either. My son started swallowing pills on his own at about 3.5

yrs. old and it has been such a godsend!

Cheryl

On Sep 8, 2008, at 10:50 AM, thefamily007 wrote:

> You guys are just the best! seemed fine this morning, and I'm

> feeling much better myself in the light of day. Thanks for the great

> ideas.

>

> Funny, too, because I use the pill organizer system for trips, but it

> never occurred to me to use it at home too. I feel like smacking

> myself upside the head like " I should have had a V8! "

>

> Robyn, are you saying that Noah can swallow pills? How did you teach

> him? We've tried a million things with ; we even tried that

> little pill-swallowing cup that you can buy online, which was

> completely worthless. No matter what we do, he just always finds the

> pill and gags.

>

> Anyone?

>

> TIA, again,

>

> Donna

>

>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>> I am shaking as I write this. Sometimes, especially at

>>> night when I'm

>>>> tired, I find myself on " autopilot " while

>>> giving my son his meds. Of

>>>> course it's not intentional, but the whole process

>>> has become a

>>>> time-worn ritual of cutting and crushing pills and

>>> " sandwiching " them

>>>> in non-dairy ice cream. Well, a few minutes ago, an

>>> hour after my

>>>> son went to bed, it dawned on me that tonight at

>>> bedtime I gave him

>>>> his *morning* meds -- Famvir, Tenex, and Celexa. Thank

>>> God the

>>>> psychoactive meds are in sub-clinical doses and if I

>>> skip the Celexa

>>>> in the morning, there should be nothing to worry about.

>>>>

>>>> I've made small mistakes with dosing one or two

>>> times before, but

>>>> nothing this dramatic.

>>>>

>>>> I guess I'm just wondering if this has happened to

>>> anyone else and how

>>>> you handled it.

>>>>

>>>> TIA,

>>>>

>>>> Donna

>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

[Guest guest]

Unfortunately, 's problem is an overactive gag reflex and mouth

sensitivity issues, so behavior modifications are not really an

option. I've tried various OT techniques with only limited success.

He'll eat a few more textures now, but the gag reflex is as powerful

as ever.

Donna

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > >I am shaking as I write this. Sometimes,

> > especially at

> > > > night when I'm

> > > > >tired, I find myself on " autopilot "

> > while

> > > > giving my son his meds. Of

> > > > >course it's not intentional, but the

> > whole process

> > > > has become a

> > > > >time-worn ritual of cutting and crushing

> > pills and

> > > > " sandwiching " them

> > > > >in non-dairy ice cream. Well, a few minutes

> > ago, an

> > > > hour after my

> > > > >son went to bed, it dawned on me that tonight

> > at

> > > > bedtime I gave him

> > > > >his *morning* meds -- Famvir, Tenex, and

> > Celexa. Thank

> > > > God the

> > > > >psychoactive meds are in sub-clinical doses

> > and if I

> > > > skip the Celexa

> > > > >in the morning, there should be nothing to

> > worry about.

> > > > >

> > > > >I've made small mistakes with dosing one

> > or two

> > > > times before, but

> > > > >nothing this dramatic.

> > > > >

> > > > >I guess I'm just wondering if this has

> > happened to

> > > > anyone else and how

> > > > >you handled it.

> > > > >

> > > > >TIA,

> > > > >

> > > > >Donna

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Hey -

It is sooo worth trying to teach the kids to swallow pills.  I had no idea my

boys could.  One was two, and the other almost 4, when I had their pills washed

& ready to crush, and they were standing there watching me when I swallowed my

pills.  My oldest asked what I was doing, and I told them that I knew how to put

my pills straight into my tummy, and that when they learned to swallow their

pills straight into their tummies too, they wouldn't have to taste that yucky

yucky medicine any more.  So my almost-4-yr-old picked up his pills and

swallowed them! And he smiled at me. I screamed (they jumped lol) and I started

jumping up and down laughing (I was so shocked & thrilled as you can imagine)

and so my 2-yr-old, not wanting to be left out, picked his up and swallowed them

too.  !!! It was awesome.  And they've always taken them since. 

 

I find it's easier not to try tilting your head back.  In fact, if you tilt it

slightly forward (barely), they go down easier.  I had a horrible gag reflex

growing up, and swallowing anything was a huge chore - very difficult, and once

in a while it still is for me - never for the kids.  But that tilt forward makes

a big difference.  It doesn't make sense to me but it helps a lot.  And I think

explaining to the kids how they were putting them in their tummy really helped

with the concept.

 

HTH-

 

Re: Meds mistakes (to the group) and a question...

You guys are just the best! seemed fine this morning, and I'm

feeling much better myself in the light of day. Thanks for the great

ideas.

Funny, too, because I use the pill organizer system for trips, but it

never occurred to me to use it at home too. I feel like smacking

myself upside the head like " I should have had a V8! "

Robyn, are you saying that Noah can swallow pills? How did you teach

him? We've tried a million things with ; we even tried that

little pill-swallowing cup that you can buy online, which was

completely worthless. No matter what we do, he just always finds the

pill and gags.

Anyone?

TIA, again,

Donna

> >

> >

> >

> > >I am shaking as I write this. Sometimes, especially at

> > night when I'm

> > >tired, I find myself on " autopilot " while

> > giving my son his meds. Of

> > >course it's not intentional, but the whole process

> > has become a

> > >time-worn ritual of cutting and crushing pills and

> > " sandwiching " them

> > >in non-dairy ice cream. Well, a few minutes ago, an

> > hour after my

> > >son went to bed, it dawned on me that tonight at

> > bedtime I gave him

> > >his *morning* meds -- Famvir, Tenex, and Celexa. Thank

> > God the

> > >psychoactive meds are in sub-clinical doses and if I

> > skip the Celexa

> > >in the morning, there should be nothing to worry about.

> > >

> > >I've made small mistakes with dosing one or two

> > times before, but

> > >nothing this dramatic.

> > >

> > >I guess I'm just wondering if this has happened to

> > anyone else and how

> > >you handled it.

> > >

> > >TIA,

> > >

> > >Donna

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

How long has he been on the Protocol? The oral sensitivities were the first to

receed for us. i work the foods by adding different textures to favorite foods.

whole kernel corn into meatballs, speghetti sauce with chuncks of ground beef

that was poorly broken up, veggies in ground beef that started food processed

and quickly became larger and larger, ETC...

In reality as the ASo's went down and the hhv6 went down this passed.

> From: thefamily007 <donnaaron@...>

> Subject: Re: Meds mistakes (to the group) and a question...

>

> Date: Monday, September 8, 2008, 3:51 PM

> Unfortunately, 's problem is an overactive gag

> reflex and mouth

> sensitivity issues, so behavior modifications are not

> really an

> option. I've tried various OT techniques with only

> limited success.

> He'll eat a few more textures now, but the gag reflex

> is as powerful

> as ever.

>

> Donna

>

>

>

>

>

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >I am shaking as I write this.

> Sometimes,

> > > especially at

> > > > > night when I'm

> > > > > >tired, I find myself on

> " autopilot "

> > > while

> > > > > giving my son his meds. Of

> > > > > >course it's not intentional,

> but the

> > > whole process

> > > > > has become a

> > > > > >time-worn ritual of cutting and

> crushing

> > > pills and

> > > > > " sandwiching " them

> > > > > >in non-dairy ice cream. Well, a few

> minutes

> > > ago, an

> > > > > hour after my

> > > > > >son went to bed, it dawned on me

> that tonight

> > > at

> > > > > bedtime I gave him

> > > > > >his *morning* meds -- Famvir,

> Tenex, and

> > > Celexa. Thank

> > > > > God the

> > > > > >psychoactive meds are in

> sub-clinical doses

> > > and if I

> > > > > skip the Celexa

> > > > > >in the morning, there should be

> nothing to

> > > worry about.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >I've made small mistakes with

> dosing one

> > > or two

> > > > > times before, but

> > > > > >nothing this dramatic.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >I guess I'm just wondering if

> this has

> > > happened to

> > > > > anyone else and how

> > > > > >you handled it.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >TIA,

> > > > > >

> > > > > >Donna

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have

> been

> > > removed]

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> > > >

> >

[Guest guest]

Actually, I taught him using the pill swallowing cup online. LOL. I think it

really depends on their gag reflex and various oral sensitivities. Noah is

hyposensitive, so I think that made it easier. He can swallow the largest

pills--even things I have difficulty with.

I would just keep trying. If he has an OT, you may want to ask them.

Good luck,

Robyn

> From: thefamily007 <donnaaron@...>

> Subject: Re: Meds mistakes (to the group) and a question...

>

> Date: Monday, September 8, 2008, 10:50 AM

> You guys are just the best! seemed fine this morning,

> and I'm

> feeling much better myself in the light of day. Thanks for

> the great

> ideas.

>

> Funny, too, because I use the pill organizer system for

> trips, but it

> never occurred to me to use it at home too. I feel like

> smacking

> myself upside the head like " I should have had a

> V8! "

>

> Robyn, are you saying that Noah can swallow pills? How did

> you teach

> him? We've tried a million things with ; we even

> tried that

> little pill-swallowing cup that you can buy online, which

> was

> completely worthless. No matter what we do, he just always

> finds the

> pill and gags.

>

> Anyone?

>

> TIA, again,

>

> Donna

>

>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > >I am shaking as I write this. Sometimes,

> especially at

> > > night when I'm

> > > >tired, I find myself on " autopilot "

> while

> > > giving my son his meds. Of

> > > >course it's not intentional, but the

> whole process

> > > has become a

> > > >time-worn ritual of cutting and crushing

> pills and

> > > " sandwiching " them

> > > >in non-dairy ice cream. Well, a few minutes

> ago, an

> > > hour after my

> > > >son went to bed, it dawned on me that tonight

> at

> > > bedtime I gave him

> > > >his *morning* meds -- Famvir, Tenex, and

> Celexa. Thank

> > > God the

> > > >psychoactive meds are in sub-clinical doses

> and if I

> > > skip the Celexa

> > > >in the morning, there should be nothing to

> worry about.

> > > >

> > > >I've made small mistakes with dosing one

> or two

> > > times before, but

> > > >nothing this dramatic.

> > > >

> > > >I guess I'm just wondering if this has

> happened to

> > > anyone else and how

> > > >you handled it.

> > > >

> > > >TIA,

> > > >

> > > >Donna

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Robyn what online program did u use. ths Kavita

 

Re: Meds mistakes (to the group) and a question...

> groups (DOT) com

> Date: Monday, September 8, 2008, 10:50 AM

> You guys are just the best! seemed fine this morning,

> and I'm

> feeling much better myself in the light of day. Thanks for

> the great

> ideas.

>

> Funny, too, because I use the pill organizer system for

> trips, but it

> never occurred to me to use it at home too. I feel like

> smacking

> myself upside the head like " I should have had a

> V8! "

>

> Robyn, are you saying that Noah can swallow pills? How did

> you teach

> him? We've tried a million things with ; we even

> tried that

> little pill-swallowing cup that you can buy online, which

> was

> completely worthless. No matter what we do, he just always

> finds the

> pill and gags.

>

> Anyone?

>

> TIA, again,

>

> Donna

>

>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > >I am shaking as I write this. Sometimes,

> especially at

> > > night when I'm

> > > >tired, I find myself on " autopilot "

> while

> > > giving my son his meds. Of

> > > >course it's not intentional, but the

> whole process

> > > has become a

> > > >time-worn ritual of cutting and crushing

> pills and

> > > " sandwiching " them

> > > >in non-dairy ice cream. Well, a few minutes

> ago, an

> > > hour after my

> > > >son went to bed, it dawned on me that tonight

> at

> > > bedtime I gave him

> > > >his *morning* meds -- Famvir, Tenex, and

> Celexa. Thank

> > > God the

> > > >psychoactive meds are in sub-clinical doses

> and if I

> > > skip the Celexa

> > > >in the morning, there should be nothing to

> worry about.

> > > >

> > > >I've made small mistakes with dosing one

> or two

> > > times before, but

> > > >nothing this dramatic.

> > > >

> > > >I guess I'm just wondering if this has

> happened to

> > > anyone else and how

> > > >you handled it.

> > > >

> > > >TIA,

> > > >

> > > >Donna

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Are you referring to the online program I use for reading. If so, it's called

Headsprout and we've seen great progress. They offer the program in two

segments: Episodes 1-40 and Episodes 41-80. Noah has already finished 1-40 but

Headsprout kindly has agreed to let Noah redo them to make sure he got

everything.

www.headsprout.com

As a matter of fact, he's " bugging " me right now to play.

HTH,

Robyn

>

> > From: thefamily007 <donnaaron@sbcglobal .net>

> > Subject: Re: Meds mistakes (to the group) and a

> question...

> > groups (DOT) com

> > Date: Monday, September 8, 2008, 10:50 AM

> > You guys are just the best! seemed fine this

> morning,

> > and I'm

> > feeling much better myself in the light of day. Thanks

> for

> > the great

> > ideas.

> >

> > Funny, too, because I use the pill organizer system

> for

> > trips, but it

> > never occurred to me to use it at home too. I feel

> like

> > smacking

> > myself upside the head like " I should have had a

> > V8! "

> >

> > Robyn, are you saying that Noah can swallow pills? How

> did

> > you teach

> > him? We've tried a million things with ; we

> even

> > tried that

> > little pill-swallowing cup that you can buy online,

> which

> > was

> > completely worthless. No matter what we do, he just

> always

> > finds the

> > pill and gags.

> >

> > Anyone?

> >

> > TIA, again,

> >

> > Donna

> >

> >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > >I am shaking as I write this. Sometimes,

> > especially at

> > > > night when I'm

> > > > >tired, I find myself on

> " autopilot "

> > while

> > > > giving my son his meds. Of

> > > > >course it's not intentional, but the

> > whole process

> > > > has become a

> > > > >time-worn ritual of cutting and crushing

> > pills and

> > > > " sandwiching " them

> > > > >in non-dairy ice cream. Well, a few

> minutes

> > ago, an

> > > > hour after my

> > > > >son went to bed, it dawned on me that

> tonight

> > at

> > > > bedtime I gave him

> > > > >his *morning* meds -- Famvir, Tenex, and

> > Celexa. Thank

> > > > God the

> > > > >psychoactive meds are in sub-clinical

> doses

> > and if I

> > > > skip the Celexa

> > > > >in the morning, there should be nothing

> to

> > worry about.

> > > > >

> > > > >I've made small mistakes with dosing

> one

> > or two

> > > > times before, but

> > > > >nothing this dramatic.

> > > > >

> > > > >I guess I'm just wondering if this

> has

> > happened to

> > > > anyone else and how

> > > > >you handled it.

> > > > >

> > > > >TIA,

> > > > >

> > > > >Donna

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> > >

>

>

>

>

>

>