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Cheryl,

We have not done any vaccines with my now 15 month old second daughter.

She has no signs of asd. Our doctor has suggested doing some vaccines

after she turns two. Do you think you will ever do anymore vaccines.

Doing them terrifies me.

cher.lowrance wrote:

> I don't do vaccines. My asd son hasn't had a shot since he was 2 and

> my nt son hasn't had a shot since he was about 2 months old. If I

> had learned more sooner, he wouldn't have had any at all.

>

> Cheryl

>

> On Aug 21, 2008, at 1:58 PM, NOEL SCHNEIDER wrote:

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> > I would not do that....research , research, research....

> >

> >

> > Sincerely Noel

> >

> >

> >

> > From: Muki Jankelowitz <mumakedi@...

> <mailto:mumakedi%40>>

> > Subject: Prevnar

> > <mailto:%40>

> > Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008, 1:53 PM

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> > Has anyone innoculated for meningitis with prevnar? It's not in the

> > standard regime but our nurse and doctor suggest it for our younger

> > 18 month NT kid.

> > All the best

> > Muki

> > " The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference. The opposite

> > of faith is not heresy, it's indifference. " Elie Wiesel Oct 1986

> >

> >

> >

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I know this wasn't addressed to me, but another member on the list asked me

(off-list) about what vaccine schedule we were using a few weeks ago... so since

the topic is back up I thought I'd go ahead a post it.

This is what we've done for our second son, born in Nov 2005. I followed the

basic diet while pregnant/breastfeeding, and he is just now allowed to eat

a few things with dairy/whole grains/etc. He's developing fabulously and is

ahead of his peers in language and other skills.

And I'm due with baby number three in a few weeks, and we plan on doing this

same schedule- and of course following the diet for the first 2-3 years,

once again.

Immunizations:

No HepB

We " got away " with this easily because my oldest (patient of Dr. G since 2002,

born in 1998... he had the all the regular vaccines administered to him on the

traditional time schedule until he was 3) had a documented reaction to HepB so

the hospital didn't push the shot after hearing that.

*I did let our local pediatrician know in advance we would be skipping it, and

would be doing all vaccines at a different pace.*

Starting at 2 months, and on the " even " months:

polio and DTaP (then boosters for them at 4 and 6 months, plus another booster

of DTaP at 18 months)

On the " odd " months:

HiB and pneumococcal (at 3, 5 and 7 months with and added HiB booster at 18

months)

*Our office doesn't charge to bring in the babies on the " odd " months for

vaccines... we just have to come during certain " shot hours " and we don't see

the doctor, just the nurse who does the shots.*

At 2 years old: MMR

Plus, we skipped the Chicken Pox vaccine... I'm not even sure when they give

those since it wasn't around for my oldest. I do *think* Dr. G will give the

chicken pox around 10-14 years old if the child hasn't caught it on their own

because getting chicken pox as a teen/adult is riskier/more complications. But

you might want to double check on that... I keep forgetting to.

Remember to wait a couple weeks before giving any vaccine after a child has a

fever or runny nose or anything remotely off with his/her immune system. A

common mistake for doctors is to think/say " oh, he/she is just teething " and

give the vaccines so you don't have to make another trip to the office. Better

safe than sorry!

- in Mobile, AL

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-Maxim Gorky (Aleksey Maksimovich Peshkov)

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Prevnar

> > <mailto:%40>

> > Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008, 1:53 PM

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> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Has anyone innoculated for meningitis with prevnar? It's not in the

> > standard regime but our nurse and doctor suggest it for our younger

> > 18 month NT kid.

> > All the best

> > Muki

> > " The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference. The opposite

> > of faith is not heresy, it's indifference. " Elie Wiesel Oct 1986

> >

> >

> >

> > Get your preferred Email name!

> > Now you can @ymail.com and @rocketmail. com.

> > http://mail. promotions. / newdomains/ aa/

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I don't expect to do any vaccines ever again. But I'll never say

never. Right now, I have no intentions of vaccinating, though.

Cheryl

On Aug 22, 2008, at 8:51 AM, Caroline wrote:

> Cheryl,

>

> We have not done any vaccines with my now 15 month old second

> daughter.

> She has no signs of asd. Our doctor has suggested doing some vaccines

> after she turns two. Do you think you will ever do anymore vaccines.

> Doing them terrifies me.

>

>

>

> cher.lowrance wrote:

>

>> I don't do vaccines. My asd son hasn't had a shot since he was 2 and

>> my nt son hasn't had a shot since he was about 2 months old. If I

>> had learned more sooner, he wouldn't have had any at all.

>>

>> Cheryl

>>

>> On Aug 21, 2008, at 1:58 PM, NOEL SCHNEIDER wrote:

>>

>>> I would not do that....research , research, research....

>>>

>>>

>>> Sincerely Noel

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> From: Muki Jankelowitz <mumakedi@...

>> <mailto:mumakedi%40>>

>>> Subject: Prevnar

>>> <mailto:%40>

>>> Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008, 1:53 PM

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Has anyone innoculated for meningitis with prevnar? It's not in the

>>> standard regime but our nurse and doctor suggest it for our younger

>>> 18 month NT kid.

>>> All the best

>>> Muki

>>> " The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference. The opposite

>>> of faith is not heresy, it's indifference. " Elie Wiesel Oct 1986

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Get your preferred Email name!

>>> Now you can @ymail.com and @rocketmail. com.

>>> http://mail. promotions. / newdomains/ aa/

>>>

>>>

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This was posted on Val's List this morning.

.. Acetaminophen (paracetamol) use, measles-mumps-rubella vaccination, and

autistic disorder

Increased use of acetaminophen / paracetamol (Tylenol, Panadol, etc.) after

MMR vaccination is associated with a substantial increased risk of autism,

report Schultz et al. from San Diego State University [Autism

2008;12:293-307]. In a study based on parental survey of 83 children with

autism and 80 developmentally normal controls, use of acetaminophen after

MMR was higher in children with autism vs. controls. There was a similar

effect for ibuprofen use after MMR, although this involved smaller numbers

(ibuprofen use was historically less prevalent), and the differences between

cases and controls is not significant.

The authors' hypothesis is that previous studies supporting or rejecting an

association between MMR and autism have failed to take differences in

acetaminophen use between the case and control groups (at around the time of

MMR) into account. While this is a reasonable hypothesis, the design chosen

to investigate it is inadequate, as it does not allow separate analyses of

the roles of acetaminophen and MMR. Nonetheless, the study allows one

hypothesis to be examined in part. It is possible that acetaminophen use is

neither necessary nor sufficient to cause autism, but that its use in a

relevant time-frame acts as a marker for children who are at risk of adverse

response to MMR; this leads to some testable predictions.

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

cher.lowrance

Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 9:39 AM

Subject: Re: Vaccines

I don't expect to do any vaccines ever again. But I'll never say

never. Right now, I have no intentions of vaccinating, though.

Cheryl

On Aug 22, 2008, at 8:51 AM, Caroline wrote:

> Cheryl,

>

> We have not done any vaccines with my now 15 month old second

> daughter.

> She has no signs of asd. Our doctor has suggested doing some vaccines

> after she turns two. Do you think you will ever do anymore vaccines.

> Doing them terrifies me.

>

>

>

> cher.lowrance wrote:

>

>> I don't do vaccines. My asd son hasn't had a shot since he was 2 and

>> my nt son hasn't had a shot since he was about 2 months old. If I

>> had learned more sooner, he wouldn't have had any at all.

>>

>> Cheryl

>>

>> On Aug 21, 2008, at 1:58 PM, NOEL SCHNEIDER wrote:

>>

>>> I would not do that....research , research, research....

>>>

>>>

>>> Sincerely Noel

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> From: Muki Jankelowitz <mumakedi@... <mailto:mumakedi%40>

>> <mailto:mumakedi%40>>

>>> Subject: Prevnar

>>> <mailto:%40>

<mailto:%40>

>>> Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008, 1:53 PM

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Has anyone innoculated for meningitis with prevnar? It's not in the

>>> standard regime but our nurse and doctor suggest it for our younger

>>> 18 month NT kid.

>>> All the best

>>> Muki

>>> " The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference. The opposite

>>> of faith is not heresy, it's indifference. " Elie Wiesel Oct 1986

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Get your preferred Email name!

>>> Now you can @ymail.com and @rocketmail. com.

>>> http://mail. promotions. / newdomains/ aa/

>>>

>>>

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