Guest guest Posted July 1, 2007 Report Share Posted July 1, 2007 Benicar is prescribed because it helps the Minocin do it's work at weakening the micoplasmas that are already in the immune cells causing the problem. Benicar was actually a drug manufactured to lower blood pressue. The reason why I am concerned is because I am already on several heart medications and have had 4 heart surgeries. I am getting together with my cardiologist to see which heart meds I can wean off safely. Also, I am 70 yrs. old going on 71 next month, so my body is a bit more fragile than you younger folks. I am also on Coumadin, which is a blood thinning medicine. There is a warning about that one in the protocol. Was put on it as a precaution to keep blood clots from forming and causing a stroke after my last heart surgery. I am also a diabetic. So, I have to tread softly when it comes to major changes. Thirty years ago, it would have been no problem. Also, I can't give you a way to go as I have not yet tried M/P and we all have different body responses. It may be an easy trip or it maybe a bumpy ride for me. We shall see. I will write a diary. If I don't finish the book or the diary, you will have known that I died. So, you see my dear, how can I tell you what to do when I don't know yet what will be the outcome. All I can do is pray that I'll come thru and be able to write the book. Take care and good luck~~~~~~Dolores Vicki <genuinelysweet2002@...> wrote: I tested positive for anticardiolipin twice as well as AIED twice. Makes me so upset that our bodies are making needless antibodies for no reason. I didn't realize I had to worry about this before beggining the Marshall protocol. Is this mainly because of the Benicar that can cause us problems or the antibiotics? mike rosner <martysfolks2004@...> wrote: You are so right! In 1991, my husband was diagnosed with anticardiolipin antibody syndrome. Guess what? Along with my scleroderma, R/A & Pulmonary fibrosis, they also found that I have anticardiolipin antibody syndrome. Since we are both on Coumadin (blood thinners,) we are covered. But, I read in one of the phases of the Marshall Protocol that people on anticoagulants must be watched carefully. So, I've made an appt. with my cardiologist for us to go over all my meds and review the M/P together and get me started on the Benicar, so I don't run into trouble. I plan on starting in Oct. or Nov. when the days grow shorter and there is less daylight. I really do believe in the " Infectious Theory " so, the A/P makes perfect sense to me. Thanks for telling me about your pet. So sorry he/she got sick too! You're doing your best. Take care~~~~~Dolores P.S. I may devote a chapter in my book re: pets and non related kin who also get autoimmune disorders. With your permission, I would like to add your story and a photo of you and your cat. Would that be okay with you? It just gives more credence that there is a whole lot of truth to the " Infectious Theory " . Thanks and if not, I will understand. Bye, Dolores Ute <nowyoga@...> wrote: Dolores, I got a puppy just as I was diagnosed with RA, but before I started AP. She soon developed sore paws and over time developed misshapen front paws. I didn't catch on soon enough to put her on AP to avoid the damage. It hasn't gotten worse since I have her on AP, but her front paws are irreversibly crippled. We have has discussions about our animals coming down with similar diseases as us, and also how frequently family members seem to have " auto-immune " diseases more than statistically expected. Parents and kids can share genetics, but spouses don't, and they seem to get sick as well at higher rates. Take care, Ute --------------------------------- Building a website is a piece of cake. Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 Hello, Does anyone use " immunovir " to help their child's immune system? Dr. G wants us to start using this but it is so expensive and can only be ordered out of Canada. Thanks, C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 We have been on it for one week now, I think it is making a difference. I believe it is worth it. Sincerely Noel From: dckgmiller <dckgmiller@...> Subject: Immune System Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008, 2:04 PM Hello, Does anyone use " immunovir " to help their child's immune system? Dr. G wants us to start using this but it is so expensive and can only be ordered out of Canada. Thanks, C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 Noel, That¹s so exciting to hear! How did you fill the script (Canada or Ireland)? Caroline G. From: NOEL SCHNEIDER <schneid99@...> Reply-< > Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:25:02 -0700 (PDT) < > Subject: Re: Immune System We have been on it for one week now, I think it is making a difference. I believe it is worth it. Sincerely Noel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 I just found this info for Immunovir from Ireland on a page compiled by Kaplan at... http://www.anapsid.org/cnd/drugs/isoprinosine.html Newport Pharmaceuticals - Markets both Imunovir and Isoprinosine Dublin, Ireland Ph. 353-1-890-3011; Fax 353-1-890-3016 www.newport-pharma.com Immunovir is isoprinosine. For patients in North America, there are some closer sources of for this immune modulator. Outside of the United States, is is also sold as Inosine Pranobex, and Inosine. In the U.S., isoprinosine may also be ordered from: Pharmacia Sucre, S.A. San , Costa Rica Ph. 506-00-233-6380,506-223-1715; Fax 506-00-233-9869 (There is no area/city code for Costa Rica so you may not need to dial the 00) newportp@... www.edenia.com/medical/sucre/Isoprinosine.htm Of course, we¹ll check with Dr.G on where he recommends getting it if/when we start it. Caroline G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 Canada Sincerely Noel From: Caroline Glover <sfglover@...> Subject: Re: Immune System Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008, 2:27 PM Noel, That¹s so exciting to hear! How did you fill the script (Canada or Ireland)? Caroline G. From: NOEL SCHNEIDER <schneid99@sbcglobal .net> Reply-<groups (DOT) com> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:25:02 -0700 (PDT) <groups (DOT) com> Subject: Re: Immune System We have been on it for one week now, I think it is making a difference. I believe it is worth it. Sincerely Noel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 Relatively inexpensive!?!? Who's he getting it from??? Dr. G wants us to try it but I just can't afford it. I would love to and I was even really pushing for it before he made up his mind about it but then I found out the cost... Cheryl On Aug 21, 2008, at 2:25 PM, NOEL SCHNEIDER wrote: > He’s got it on the “try” list for one of our boys, too. We’re not > quite to > the point of trying it, though (other med changes going on right now). > > Here’s something I read in a summary of a presentation given by Dr. > > Cheney... I know he’s a big name in CFIDS, but I’m not sure what his > protocol is... but for what it’s worth, here’s what it said... > > “Immune modulation is the concept of augmenting the immune system that > fights intracellular microbes; that's the TH1 system. There are a > number of > pharmaceuticals and nutriceuticals [nutritional supplements used > therapeutically] that do that. The one I like the best is > isoprinosine, a > drug that unfortunately is not approved in this country but is > approved in > 51 other countries, made in Dublin, Ireland, by Rivex Pharmaceuticals, > although discovered in this country. > > We have probably a couple of hundred people on isoprinosine. It's > the only > immunomodulator I've ever given where people actually call us back > and tell > us how much better they're doing. I've never had an immunomodulator > that > strong before. Kutapressin wasn't nearly that strong. Isonisoprine is > relatively safe and relatively inexpensive. [Although isoprinosine > (brand > name Immunovir) is not approved in the U.S., Dr. Cheney sends a > prescription > to the Canadian supplier, which ships the drug to the patient. Some > patients > also obtain the drug directly from the manufacturer in Ireland.” > > Caroline G. > > > > From: dckgmiller <dckgmiller@...> > Reply-< > > Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:04:51 +0000 > < > > Subject: Immune System > > Hello, > Does anyone use " immunovir " to help their child's immune system? Dr. G > wants us to start using this but it is so expensive and can only be > ordered out of Canada. > Thanks, > C. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 I believe that it is $150.00-$200.00 a month. Dr. G wanted us to start it too but like Cheryl said, it is too expensive. I would love to give it to my son but I would be on " broke status " ! > He's got it on the " try " list for one of our boys, too. We're not > quite to > the point of trying it, though (other med changes going on right now). > > Here's something I read in a summary of a presentation given by Dr. > > Cheney... I know he's a big name in CFIDS, but I'm not sure what his > protocol is... but for what it's worth, here's what it said... > > " Immune modulation is the concept of augmenting the immune system that > fights intracellular microbes; that's the TH1 system. There are a > number of > pharmaceuticals and nutriceuticals [nutritional supplements used > therapeutically] that do that. The one I like the best is > isoprinosine, a > drug that unfortunately is not approved in this country but is > approved in > 51 other countries, made in Dublin, Ireland, by Rivex Pharmaceuticals, > although discovered in this country. > > We have probably a couple of hundred people on isoprinosine. It's > the only > immunomodulator I've ever given where people actually call us back > and tell > us how much better they're doing. I've never had an immunomodulator > that > strong before. Kutapressin wasn't nearly that strong. Isonisoprine is > relatively safe and relatively inexpensive. [Although isoprinosine > (brand > name Immunovir) is not approved in the U.S., Dr. Cheney sends a > prescription > to the Canadian supplier, which ships the drug to the patient. Some > patients > also obtain the drug directly from the manufacturer in Ireland. " > > Caroline G. > > > > From: dckgmiller <dckgmillermsn (DOT) com> > Reply-<groups (DOT) com> > Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:04:51 +0000 > <groups (DOT) com> > Subject: Immune System > > Hello, > Does anyone use " immunovir " to help their child's immune system? Dr. G > wants us to start using this but it is so expensive and can only be > ordered out of Canada. > Thanks, > C. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 C miller This was recommended from Dr K *Board member " of and a CFS researcher out of U of M. The med increases the number of NK T cells (Natural Killer Cells) in you childs blood stream. These cells control the viruses and bacterial infections that are the root of the problem. To be clear Immunovir is as close to the immune modulating drugs Dr G is waiting for that is available at this time, a drug that heals the total system by boosting the production of the cells that balance/normalize the immune system and not just attack the invasive virus while the med is in the system. Yes it is worth the expense. It is the first available drug in a class of drugs that actually enhance the body's ability to self heal. Bill > From: dckgmiller <dckgmiller@...> > Subject: Immune System > > Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008, 5:04 PM > Hello, > Does anyone use " immunovir " to help their > child's immune system? Dr. G > wants us to start using this but it is so expensive and can > only be > ordered out of Canada. > Thanks, > C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 For the way it's dosed, it comes out to approximately $250 (give or take $50 depending on where you get it) every 45 days. Cheryl On Aug 21, 2008, at 4:06 PM, Martha Wood wrote: > What is the cost? > Martha > > Immune System >> >> Hello, >> Does anyone use " immunovir " to help their child's immune system? >> Dr. G >> wants us to start using this but it is so expensive and can only be >> ordered out of Canada. >> Thanks, >> C. >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 I'm sure that it is worth it for many kids and it probably would be worth it for mine but you have to have the money to spend it. Cheryl On Aug 21, 2008, at 6:19 PM, Bill klimas wrote: > C miller > This was recommended from Dr K *Board member " of and a > CFS researcher out of U of M. The med increases the number of NK T > cells (Natural Killer Cells) in you childs blood stream. These > cells control the viruses and bacterial infections that are the > root of the problem. To be clear Immunovir is as close to the > immune modulating drugs Dr G is waiting for that is available at > this time, a drug that heals the total system by boosting the > production of the cells that balance/normalize the immune system > and not just attack the invasive virus while the med is in the > system. Yes it is worth the expense. It is the first available drug > in a class of drugs that actually enhance the body's ability to > self heal. > Bill > > > > >> From: dckgmiller <dckgmiller@...> >> Subject: Immune System >> >> Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008, 5:04 PM >> Hello, >> Does anyone use " immunovir " to help their >> child's immune system? Dr. G >> wants us to start using this but it is so expensive and can >> only be >> ordered out of Canada. >> Thanks, >> C. > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with > the original author(s), and is not necessarily endorsed by or the > opinion of the Research Institute, the Parent Coalition, > or the list moderator(s). > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 What dosage of Immunovir is your child on and what improvements have you seen? I found a pharmacy in Canada that sells 100, 500 mg tablets for $229.00. Do you pulse the treatment or is it given every day, month after month? TIA, Robyn > >> From: dckgmiller <dckgmillermsn (DOT) com> >> Subject: Immune System >> groups (DOT) com >> Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008, 5:04 PM >> Hello, >> Does anyone use " immunovir " to help their >> child's immune system? Dr. G >> wants us to start using this but it is so expensive and can >> only be >> ordered out of Canada. >> Thanks, >> C. > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with > the original author(s), and is not necessarily endorsed by or the > opinion of the Research Institute, the Parent Coalition, > or the list moderator(s) . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 Just curious . . . how far were you into the protocol before Dr. G recommended Immunovir? Thanks, Robyn > >> From: dckgmiller <dckgmillermsn (DOT) com> >> Subject: Immune System >> groups (DOT) com >> Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008, 5:04 PM >> Hello, >> Does anyone use " immunovir " to help their >> child's immune system? Dr. G >> wants us to start using this but it is so expensive and can >> only be >> ordered out of Canada. >> Thanks, >> C. > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with > the original author(s), and is not necessarily endorsed by or the > opinion of the Research Institute, the Parent Coalition, > or the list moderator(s) . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 Dr G Just start using Immunovir is " VERY " new on the markt. Any one using it stard recently regardless to how long they were on the protocol. > > > >> From: dckgmiller <dckgmillermsn (DOT) com> > >> Subject: Immune System > >> groups (DOT) com > >> Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008, 5:04 PM > >> Hello, > >> Does anyone use " immunovir " to help > their > >> child's immune system? Dr. G > >> wants us to start using this but it is so > expensive and can > >> only be > >> ordered out of Canada. > >> Thanks, > >> C. > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > Responsibility for the content of this message lies > strictly with > > the original author(s), and is not necessarily > endorsed by or the > > opinion of the Research Institute, the > Parent Coalition, > > or the list moderator(s) . > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 Actually it's not that new on the market, it's just new to Dr. G's office. Some DANs have been using it for a while along with AIDS patients. Dr. G didn't approve of it until you're sister convinced him to try it. He's still not totally sure he's on board so he's trying it out for a while to see. Dr. G only started putting patients on it either the end of last year or the beginning of this year (don't remember exactly). My son isn't on it but in answer to Robyn's question, yes, it's pulsed. And when you are on it, you take it many times during the day. I think you take it more than you take acyclovir (5x a day) on some weeks but since we aren't using it, I can't give you any specifics. Cheryl On Aug 22, 2008, at 1:14 PM, Bill klimas wrote: > Dr G Just start using Immunovir is " VERY " new on the markt. Any one > using it stard recently regardless to how long they were on the > protocol. > > > >>> >>>> From: dckgmiller <dckgmillermsn (DOT) com> >>>> Subject: Immune System >>>> groups (DOT) com >>>> Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008, 5:04 PM >>>> Hello, >>>> Does anyone use " immunovir " to help >> their >>>> child's immune system? Dr. G >>>> wants us to start using this but it is so >> expensive and can >>>> only be >>>> ordered out of Canada. >>>> Thanks, >>>> C. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------ --------- --------- ------ >>> >>> Responsibility for the content of this message lies >> strictly with >>> the original author(s), and is not necessarily >> endorsed by or the >>> opinion of the Research Institute, the >> Parent Coalition, >>> or the list moderator(s) . >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 We have not started it yet (Recent change in antivirals ) but I did get the recomended dosage from My sister. Adults take it at different levels on alternate weeks, Monday throuh Friday 1 cap - three times a day. Weekends no Med. (Apparently it creates a build up of Uric acid in the system and the weekend off allows the levels to nomalize) The second week the dosage is two caps three times a day with week ends off. For my kid at one hundred pounds it is one cap twice a day weekends off and one cap once a day alternating weeks, again Monday through Friday only. Dr G may have a slightly different approach! Bill > >>> > >>>> From: dckgmiller <dckgmillermsn (DOT) > com> > >>>> Subject: Immune System > >>>> groups (DOT) com > >>>> Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008, 5:04 PM > >>>> Hello, > >>>> Does anyone use " immunovir " to > help > >> their > >>>> child's immune system? Dr. G > >>>> wants us to start using this but it is so > >> expensive and can > >>>> only be > >>>> ordered out of Canada. > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> C. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ------------ --------- --------- ------ > >>> > >>> Responsibility for the content of this message > lies > >> strictly with > >>> the original author(s), and is not necessarily > >> endorsed by or the > >>> opinion of the Research Institute, the > > >> Parent Coalition, > >>> or the list moderator(s) . > >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 Immunovir has been around since at least the early 80s, possibly even the late 70s (I believe the patent for it was filed in 1969). After 30 years of research, I'm a little perplexed as to why it hasn't been approved by the FDA. Most of the clinicial trials in the US took place in the 90s. If you " google " Immunovir, most of the reference articles and websites have material that is at least a decade old. Robyn >>> >>>> From: dckgmiller <dckgmiller@ msn. com> >>>> Subject: Immune System >>>> groups (DOT) com >>>> Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008, 5:04 PM >>>> Hello, >>>> Does anyone use " immunovir " to help >> their >>>> child's immune system? Dr. G >>>> wants us to start using this but it is so >> expensive and can >>>> only be >>>> ordered out of Canada. >>>> Thanks, >>>> C. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------ --------- --------- ------ >>> >>> Responsibility for the content of this message lies >> strictly with >>> the original author(s), and is not necessarily >> endorsed by or the >>> opinion of the Research Institute, the >> Parent Coalition, >>> or the list moderator(s) . >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 Evidently, it has not been approved in the US because of political reasons. Big Pharmaceuticals? It is manufactured in Ireland. Immune System >>>> groups (DOT) com >>>> Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008, 5:04 PM >>>> Hello, >>>> Does anyone use " immunovir " to help >> their >>>> child's immune system? Dr. G >>>> wants us to start using this but it is so >> expensive and can >>>> only be >>>> ordered out of Canada. >>>> Thanks, >>>> C. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------ --------- --------- ------ >>> >>> Responsibility for the content of this message lies >> strictly with >>> the original author(s), and is not necessarily >> endorsed by or the >>> opinion of the Research Institute, the >> Parent Coalition, >>> or the list moderator(s) . >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 I believe the reason it's never been approved in the US is because it's never been presented by the manufacturers to the FDA. Don't quote me on that, though. Cheryl On Aug 22, 2008, at 2:30 PM, Robyn & Greg Coggins wrote: > Immunovir has been around since at least the early 80s, possibly > even the late 70s (I believe the patent for it was filed in 1969). > After 30 years of research, I'm a little perplexed as to why it > hasn't been approved by the FDA. Most of the clinicial trials in > the US took place in the 90s. If you " google " Immunovir, most of > the reference articles and websites have material that is at least > a decade old. > > Robyn > > >>>> >>>>> From: dckgmiller <dckgmiller@ msn. com> >>>>> Subject: Immune System >>>>> groups (DOT) com >>>>> Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008, 5:04 PM >>>>> Hello, >>>>> Does anyone use " immunovir " to help >>> their >>>>> child's immune system? Dr. G >>>>> wants us to start using this but it is so >>> expensive and can >>>>> only be >>>>> ordered out of Canada. >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> C. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------ --------- --------- ------ >>>> >>>> Responsibility for the content of this message lies >>> strictly with >>>> the original author(s), and is not necessarily >>> endorsed by or the >>>> opinion of the Research Institute, the >>> Parent Coalition, >>>> or the list moderator(s) . >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 I wonder what those political reasons could be? As Cheryl mentioned, it doesn't seem as if The company has really pushed the product over here. They have a branch in Newport Beach. I may be wrong on this but aren't there other pharma companies outside the U.S. that have drugs approved by the FDA? When you go to clinicaltrials.gov (which is an FDA site) about five or six studies on Immunovir have been done in the past decade or so; I wonder what the results were? Robyn >>> >>>> From: dckgmiller <dckgmiller@ msn. com> >>>> Subject: Immune System >>>> groups (DOT) com >>>> Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008, 5:04 PM >>>> Hello, >>>> Does anyone use " immunovir " to help >> their >>>> child's immune system? Dr. G >>>> wants us to start using this but it is so >> expensive and can >>>> only be >>>> ordered out of Canada. >>>> Thanks, >>>> C. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------ --------- --------- ------ >>> >>> Responsibility for the content of this message lies >> strictly with >>> the original author(s), and is not necessarily >> endorsed by or the >>> opinion of the Research Institute, the >> Parent Coalition, >>> or the list moderator(s) . >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 Not quite true. Dr G allowed overseas patients to try it (we were in Singapore at the time). We used it in 2003, ordered directly from the manufacturer - Newport Pharmaceuticals in Ireland. Immunovir has been around for many years, though not FDA approved - maybe it is here now?, It was approved by at least 25 other health authorities of developed nations around the world. In conversations I had with the research Doctor at Newport Pharmaceuticals back in '03, she recommended that other antivirals should not be used when Immunovir is being used, but should go into the rotation that was tested by Dr Hyde. Dr G then tended to dose with Immmunovir continuously with Famvir or valtrex etc. We saw little change with it, however others have reported successes. I thought it relatively inexpensive at the time ($165 for 3 months) - given that FamVir was three times the price - and something that international ( " expat " ) insurance policies would not cover, unless we paid three times the premium! Dr G was looking for alternatives to Kutapressin which was then going out of production, so no real point of time when he introduces it. It is an older immune modulator that can be used with some success in certain people _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Bill klimas Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 12:14 PM Subject: Re: Immune System Dr G Just start using Immunovir is " VERY " new on the markt. Any one using it stard recently regardless to how long they were on the protocol. > > > >> From: dckgmiller <dckgmillermsn (DOT) com> > >> Subject: Immune System > >> groups (DOT) com > >> Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008, 5:04 PM > >> Hello, > >> Does anyone use " immunovir " to help > their > >> child's immune system? Dr. G > >> wants us to start using this but it is so > expensive and can > >> only be > >> ordered out of Canada. > >> Thanks, > >> C. > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > Responsibility for the content of this message lies > strictly with > > the original author(s), and is not necessarily > endorsed by or the > > opinion of the Research Institute, the > Parent Coalition, > > or the list moderator(s) . > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 Yes. I question whether inosine is the *same* thing. There are several types of inosine and I don't think the inosine sold here is the antiviral type. The Rx contains inosine but we don't know what they've done it to it to allow it to have antiviral properties. It is a synthetic drug and inosine is made into several forms so the question is really would the OTC inosine have the right form to do the same thing as Rx? I don't think it does. It's usually marketed as a performance enhancer for athletes. Cheryl On Aug 24, 2008, at 8:11 PM, Crosss wrote: > Is Isoprinosine the same as Immunovir? > On Aug 24, 2008, at 3:56 PM, wrote: > >> Oh, BTW- 'if' 'INOSINE' is the same thing as 'IMMUNOVIR' like I read, >> then it can be found at most nutrition stores like, Vitamin Shoppe. >> >> If this is true, this 'could' explain the 'politics of it not being >> approved by the FDA' in the United States. >> >> There wouldn't be any 'Big Pharma' money backing it. 'If' it IS true >> that 'Inosine' is the same thing as 'Immunovir' then people could >> just >> go and by it over-the-counter. There would be no profits behind it. >> Big drug companies can't make money off of a drug that can be bought >> at every supplements store- 'IF' it is the case that it is the same >> thing. >> >> So- if what I've read is correct, that 'might' provide an explanation >> as to why the drug United States FDA hasn't touched it. >> >> I'd like to know what others think about this as well... >> >> >>> >>> Interesting observation. I'm curious to hear Dr. G's thoughts about >> this. >>> I'm also curious to hear from those whose kids have taken >> Immunovir. Has it >>> been helpful? Any side effects noticed? >>> Gaylen >>> >>> >>> >>> **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find >> your travel >>> deal here. >>> (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047) >>> >>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 > > Does anyone know if there is a specific blood test to test how strong > your immune system is? Yes, there are. However, it isn't necessarily how strong your immune system is, but how balanced it is. For instance, I have a very strong immune system - it attacks everything. Balance is more important. Please see an immunologist for the testing. ar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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