Re: Re: Immunovir - Isoprinosine

[Guest guest]

What is this drug specifically?  I had thought it was a supplement, not

technically a drug. 

Barb Katsaros

barbkatsaros@...

From: Crosss <crosswilsons@...>

Subject: Re: Immunovir - Isoprinosine

Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 3:53 PM

I wrote this email in response to Bill Klimas' detailed post last

week - for

some reason it wouldn't go through as a reply - so here it is..

Thanks for this Bill.

The drugs name is Isoprinosine. Do a search there is quite a bit published

on it.

We tried it several years ago - ordering it direct from Newport

Pharmaceuticals in Dublin - they shipped direct - we lived in Singapore at

the time. I believe there were issues getting it into the US. It didn't

seem to help our son, although then, Dr G was not using the " pulsed " dosage

that is recommended - which I surmise from Bills post that this is what is

now being done.

Here is the cost in 2004: 3 X 100 tablets (500mg) at EUR158.72 plus shipping

(EUR36.50) FedEx total of EUR195.22.

So for about 200 Euros, we got 3 months supply - quite a bit cheaper than

Famvir at full price - without insurance. If it is helping - it's a bargain!

Here is the contact info that was relevant 5 years ago:

SALES DEVELOPMENT EXECUTIVE & CLINICAL AFFAIRS ADMINISTRATOR

Newport Pharmaceuticals Ltd

Frans Maas House

Swords Business Park

Swords

Co. Dublin

IRELAND

TEL: + 353 1 890 3011

FAX: + 353 1 890 3016

[Guest guest]

No, it is a pharm. Read Ellen's article posted yesterday. It is truly an immune

modulator that increases the number of NK cells. This allows the child's immune

system to better deal with the hhv6 virus.

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From: Barb Katsaros <barbkatsaros@...>

Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 6:09:19 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Immunovir - Isoprinosine

What is this drug specifically? I had thought it was a supplement, not

technically a drug.

Barb Katsaros

barbkatsaros

From: Crosss <crosswilsons@ socal.rr. com>

Subject: Re: Immunovir - Isoprinosine

groups (DOT) com

Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 3:53 PM

I wrote this email in response to Bill Klimas' detailed post last week - for

some reason it wouldn't go through as a reply - so here it is..

Thanks for this Bill.

The drugs name is Isoprinosine. Do a search there is quite a bit published

on it.

We tried it several years ago - ordering it direct from Newport

Pharmaceuticals in Dublin - they shipped direct - we lived in Singapore at

the time. I believe there were issues getting it into the US. It didn't

seem to help our son, although then, Dr G was not using the " pulsed " dosage

that is recommended - which I surmise from Bills post that this is what is

now being done.

Here is the cost in 2004: 3 X 100 tablets (500mg) at EUR158.72 plus shipping

(EUR36.50) FedEx total of EUR195.22.

So for about 200 Euros, we got 3 months supply - quite a bit cheaper than

Famvir at full price - without insurance. If it is helping - it's a bargain!

Here is the contact info that was relevant 5 years ago:

SALES DEVELOPMENT EXECUTIVE & CLINICAL AFFAIRS ADMINISTRATOR

Newport Pharmaceuticals Ltd

Frans Maas House

Swords Business Park

Swords

Co. Dublin

IRELAND

TEL: + 353 1 890 3011

FAX: + 353 1 890 3016

[Guest guest]

There is a supplement that comes up when you search for immunovir (the

isoprinosine?) that here in the US is a supplement, but is not the same thing as

the immunovir.  I think some may say that it is, but Dr G (or was it Mrs G?)

said it is not the same thing.

HTH

________________________________

From: Barb Katsaros <barbkatsaros@...>

Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 5:09:19 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Immunovir - Isoprinosine

What is this drug specifically?  I had thought it was a supplement, not

technically a drug. 

Barb Katsaros

barbkatsaros

From: Crosss <crosswilsons@ socal.rr. com>

Subject: Re: Immunovir - Isoprinosine

groups (DOT) com

Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 3:53 PM

I wrote this email in response to Bill Klimas' detailed post last week - for

some reason it wouldn't go through as a reply - so here it is..

Thanks for this Bill.

The drugs name is Isoprinosine. Do a search there is quite a bit published

on it.

We tried it several years ago - ordering it direct from Newport

Pharmaceuticals in Dublin - they shipped direct - we lived in Singapore at

the time. I believe there were issues getting it into the US. It didn't

seem to help our son, although then, Dr G was not using the " pulsed " dosage

that is recommended - which I surmise from Bills post that this is what is

now being done.

Here is the cost in 2004: 3 X 100 tablets (500mg) at EUR158.72 plus shipping

(EUR36.50) FedEx total of EUR195.22.

So for about 200 Euros, we got 3 months supply - quite a bit cheaper than

Famvir at full price - without insurance. If it is helping - it's a bargain!

Here is the contact info that was relevant 5 years ago:

SALES DEVELOPMENT EXECUTIVE & CLINICAL AFFAIRS ADMINISTRATOR

Newport Pharmaceuticals Ltd

Frans Maas House

Swords Business Park

Swords

Co. Dublin

IRELAND

TEL: + 353 1 890 3011

FAX: + 353 1 890 3016

[Guest guest]

Some supplements are by Rx only.

Cheryl

~Check out my blog: http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com/

On Jan 17, 2009, at 12:12 PM, thefamily007 wrote:

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> There is a supplement that comes up when you search for immunovir

> (the isoprinosine?) that here in the US is a supplement, but is not

> the same thing as the immunovir. I think some may say that it is, but

> Dr G (or was it Mrs G?) said it is not the same thing.

>> HTH

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> When Dr. G first recommended Immunovir to me for , he definitely

> told me that it was a " pharmaceutical supplement " . I still don't

> know what he meant by that, but I do remember it quite clearly.

>

> Donna

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[Guest guest]

Isoprinosine is a prescription drug - i.e. a pharmaceutical that is

registered and efficacy tested as such in more than 25 developed countries.

Why it is not in the US I don't know. It is not classed as a supplement. As

Bill Klimas posted, it is an NK cell enhancer - specifically a T cell

switcher.

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From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

cher.lowrance

Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 12:25 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Immunovir - Isoprinosine

Some supplements are by Rx only.

Cheryl

~Check out my blog: http://www.gryffins

<http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com/> -tail.blogspot.com/

On Jan 17, 2009, at 12:12 PM, thefamily007 wrote:

>

> There is a supplement that comes up when you search for immunovir

> (the isoprinosine?) that here in the US is a supplement, but is not

> the same thing as the immunovir. I think some may say that it is, but

> Dr G (or was it Mrs G?) said it is not the same thing.

>> HTH

>>

>>

> When Dr. G first recommended Immunovir to me for , he definitely

> told me that it was a " pharmaceutical supplement " . I still don't

> know what he meant by that, but I do remember it quite clearly.

>

> Donna

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> Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with

> the original author(s), and is not necessarily endorsed by or the

> opinion of the Research Institute, the Parent Coalition,

> or the list moderator(s).

>

[Guest guest]

My son took Immunovir for just over three months this past fall. It's a

prescription drug, not a supplement.

He did very well on it. We saw no allergy symptoms what so ever ,and he is

overall much more healthy.

He's also on monthly IVIG, and he's gained eighteen pounds since April 08'. It's

nothing short of a miracle to look at him and know that for the first time he's

absorbing nutrients from his food. His gut issues are a thing of the past. His

bowels normalized within one week of his first infusion.

HTH,

@...: crosswilsons@...: Sat, 17 Jan 2009

19:45:16 -0800Subject: RE: Re: Immunovir - Isoprinosine

Isoprinosine is a prescription drug - i.e. a pharmaceutical that isregistered

and efficacy tested as such in more than 25 developed countries.Why it is not in

the US I don't know. It is not classed as a supplement. AsBill Klimas posted, it

is an NK cell enhancer - specifically a T cellswitcher._____ From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf

Ofcher.lowranceSent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 12:25 PMTo:

@...: Re: Re: Immunovir - IsoprinosineSome

supplements are by Rx only.Cheryl~Check out my blog:

http://www.gryffins<http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com/>

-tail.blogspot.com/On Jan 17, 2009, at 12:12 PM, thefamily007 wrote:> > There is a supplement that comes up when you search

for immunovir> (the isoprinosine?) that here in the US is a supplement, but is

not> the same thing as the immunovir. I think some may say that it is, but> Dr G

(or was it Mrs G?) said it is not the same thing.>> HTH>> >>> When Dr. G

first recommended Immunovir to me for , he definitely> told me that it was

a " pharmaceutical supplement " . I still don't> know what he meant by that, but I

do remember it quite clearly.>> Donna>>>>>>>>>

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message lies strictly with> the original author(s), and is not necessarily

endorsed by or the> opinion of the Research Institute, the Parent

Coalition, > or the list moderator(s).>

[Guest guest]

Did Dr. Goldberg prescribe these for your son?  What is IVIG?  We have done

IMGG, which he prescribed.  How old is your son?  Mine is 17, and definitely has

gut issues.  He has not grown for 2 years and lost 6 lbs.  He is about to be

tested for lack of growth hormone. 

Barb Katsaros

barbkatsaros@...

> > There is a supplement that comes

up when you search for immunovir> (the isoprinosine? ) that here in the US is a

supplement, but is not> the same thing as the

immunovir. I think some may say that it is, but> Dr G (or was it Mrs G?) said

it is not the same thing.>> HTH>> >>> When Dr. G first recommended

Immunovir to me for , he definitely> told me that it was a " pharmaceutical

supplement " . I still don't> know what he meant by that, but I do remember it

quite clearly.>> Donna>>>>>>> >> ------------ --------- --------- ------>>

Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with> the original

author(s), and is not necessarily endorsed by or the> opinion of the

Research Institute, the Parent Coalition, > or the list moderator(s) .>

[Guest guest]

BTW - after restarting my youngest on the protocol, he is starting to gain

weight now too - he gained almost 3 lbs in around 2-3 months, after not having

gained much more than a pound in over 2 years (give or take, with a bit of gain

here then loss).  Gut issues are not obvious for him - he just wasn't gaining

weight even though he was gaining height. 

________________________________

From: Barb Katsaros <barbkatsaros@...>

Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 12:28:10 PM

Subject: RE: Re: Immunovir - Isoprinosine

Did Dr. Goldberg prescribe these for your son?  What is IVIG?  We have done

IMGG, which he prescribed.  How old is your son?  Mine is 17, and definitely has

gut issues.  He has not grown for 2 years and lost 6 lbs.  He is about to be

tested for lack of growth hormone. 

Barb Katsaros

barbkatsaros

> > There is a supplement that comes

up when you search for immunovir> (the isoprinosine? ) that here in the US is a

supplement, but is not> the same thing as the

immunovir. I think some may say that it is, but> Dr G (or was it Mrs G?) said it

is not the same thing.>> HTH>> >>> When Dr. G first recommended Immunovir

to me for , he definitely> told me that it was a " pharmaceutical

supplement " . I still don't> know what he meant by that, but I do remember it

quite clearly.>> Donna>>>>>>> >> ------------ --------- --------- ------>>

Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with> the original

author(s), and is not necessarily endorsed by or the> opinion of the

Research Institute, the Parent Coalition, > or the list moderator(s) .>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I think that both are helping him. The IVIG was started in April 08' and the

Immunovir was started in Sept. 08'. He still benefitted from the Immunovir even

though he was already on IVIG. It helped to balance his TH1 and TH2. He stopped

overreacting to allergens and started reacting more appropriately to bacteria,

viruses and yeast.

I'm not sure if Dr. G would recommend it for your child or not. You could ask

him to see what his thoughts are. My son was chronically ill with

infections, yeast and viruses. He also overacted to so many allergens that It

was really necessary to try this med to see if it helped him or not.

I'm about to ask his doctor if we should do another few months of Immunovir,

because he just started to have some old allergy symptoms again.

@...: vanessagamarrac1@...: Sun, 18 Jan 2009

18:31:35 -0800Subject: Re: Immunovir - Isoprinosine

:-The progress was because if inmunovir or for the IGIV?-Does dr. Goldberg

recomend it if a kid is fairly ok in the inmune panel? i mean my girl has almost

a normal inmune panel, but i would like to ask him about

inmunovir.