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I don't think it is going to get any better, either. My friend here, previously implanted, is on disability. Her Internist called 5 Endocrinologist's offices before he could find one who would take her Medicare and secondary policy...

Cathie

In a message dated 1/9/08 10:43:05 AM, lisatucholski@... writes:

These companies are amazing at the loop holes they find to deny

coverage. My husband has been an employee of Cigna healthcare for

the past 8 years. I don't remember where i saw the article, it may

have been on this site but a few weeks ago a story broke about Cigna

and how they denied coverage for an organ transplant for a young

girl and untimely she did end up dying. All of the employees got an

email that night trying to explain their decision and how the media

made it worse then what it was. My husband works for one of the top

healthcare companies in Philadelphia and we are on my company

insurance because Cigna's coverage is so horrible but yet his

contributions are higher then what i pay. They are literally getting

away with murder!

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These companies are amazing at the loop holes they find to deny

coverage. My husband has been an employee of Cigna healthcare for

the past 8 years. I don't remember where i saw the article, it may

have been on this site but a few weeks ago a story broke about Cigna

and how they denied coverage for an organ transplant for a young

girl and untimely she did end up dying. All of the employees got an

email that night trying to explain their decision and how the media

made it worse then what it was. My husband works for one of the top

healthcare companies in Philadelphia and we are on my company

insurance because Cigna's coverage is so horrible but yet his

contributions are higher then what i pay. They are literally getting

away with murder!

>

> They say implants don't cause problems, but then when there are

problems,

> they don't want to cover them... I wonder if anyone has sued over

this yet...

>

> I have racked my brain trying to figure out some way to bring all

of this to

> a head, but am at a loss. The only thing I can think of that might

be looked

> at with some merit, would be a study of the number of people on

disability due

> to problems, not just w/breast implants, but other forms of

silicone related

> materials... I think they even have a diagnosis code for this with

SS.

>

> And now, with the ID chips for animals causing problems, I wonder

if this

> might make researchers more likely to look at the issue again...

> Cathie

>

>

>

> **************

> Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.

>

> http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?

NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

>

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These companies are amazing at the loop holes they find to deny

coverage. My husband has been an employee of Cigna healthcare for

the past 8 years. I don't remember where i saw the article, it may

have been on this site but a few weeks ago a story broke about Cigna

and how they denied coverage for an organ transplant for a young

girl and untimely she did end up dying. All of the employees got an

email that night trying to explain their decision and how the media

made it worse then what it was. My husband works for one of the top

healthcare companies in Philadelphia and we are on my company

insurance because Cigna's coverage is so horrible but yet his

contributions are higher then what i pay. They are literally getting

away with murder!

>

> They say implants don't cause problems, but then when there are

problems,

> they don't want to cover them... I wonder if anyone has sued over

this yet...

>

> I have racked my brain trying to figure out some way to bring all

of this to

> a head, but am at a loss. The only thing I can think of that might

be looked

> at with some merit, would be a study of the number of people on

disability due

> to problems, not just w/breast implants, but other forms of

silicone related

> materials... I think they even have a diagnosis code for this with

SS.

>

> And now, with the ID chips for animals causing problems, I wonder

if this

> might make researchers more likely to look at the issue again...

> Cathie

>

>

>

> **************

> Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.

>

> http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?

NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

>

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which makes you wonder how many doctors are really in it to help

people. You could walk in there with an organ hanging out and they

would ask for your insurance card before anything.

>

> I don't think it is going to get any better, either. My friend

here,

> previously implanted, is on disability. Her Internist called 5

Endocrinologist's

> offices before he could find one who would take her Medicare and

secondary

> policy...

> Cathie

> In a message dated 1/9/08 10:43:05 AM, lisatucholski@... writes:

>

>

> >

> > These companies are amazing at the loop holes they find to deny

> > coverage. My husband has been an employee of Cigna healthcare for

> > the past 8 years. I don't remember where i saw the article, it

may

> > have been on this site but a few weeks ago a story broke about

Cigna

> > and how they denied coverage for an organ transplant for a young

> > girl and untimely she did end up dying. All of the employees got

an

> > email that night trying to explain their decision and how the

media

> > made it worse then what it was. My husband works for one of the

top

> > healthcare companies in Philadelphia and we are on my company

> > insurance because Cigna's coverage is so horrible but yet his

> > contributions are higher then what i pay. They are literally

getting

> > away with murder!

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

> **************

> Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.

>

> http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?

NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

>

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Same with midwives... my Insurance Co. doesn't cover midwives, so I

shelled out the $3,100.00 for her myself, but if I were to see an

(in-network) OB for the birth my my child, I'd only have to pay a

TOTAL of $200.00 out of pocket for the entire thing... ALL visits, and

anything associated with a hospital birth. I started out with a

mainstream OB for my first child, and was pushed through that office

in a matter of MINUTES at each visit. The visits got shorter and

shorter when I refused all the testing they wanted to do on me to rule

out birth defects (multiple ultrasounds, bloodwork, and they even

suggested I get an amniocentisis... the only reason was because I was

35 years old!) Because the outcome of those tests was not going to

change whether I elected to continue with the birth of my child or

not, I didn't find them necessary, therefore the OB didn't find it

necessary to provide any worthwhile care. I got fed up and found a

homebirth midwife for the first one, too.

My insurance co has also refused to cover accupuncture as part of my

prenatal care. So far my chiropractic care has been covered,

thankfully! I don't know how I would have made it through my 3rd

trimester without my chiro!

On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Randi Airola <randiceaj@...> wrote:

>

> My kids see a holistic doctor that doesn't push vacc's down my throat. Today

> in the mail, I got a disturbing post card from the doctor stating that our

> insurance carrier was dropping him as a PPO.

>

> I called to ask what was going on, and was informed that he was being

> dropped as a PPO because " he spends too much time with his patients. His

> colleagues (must be mainstream) can do an appt. in 15 minutes and because

> his averages an hour, they were losing money on him.

>

> And one wonders why when they go to their mainstream doctor their shoved in

> and out like cattle and are pushed vaccines for " preventable diseases " .

> (must be an insurance requirement)

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You may be able to keep him, and just get reimbursed.

For example, you go to him. You pay the full price. You send an

insurance company form, and they will reimburse you for the cost that

they would have incurred had you gone to an in-network doctor. You won't

get all of your money back, but you will get some.

I had an insurance company do this for a doctor I saw who simply did not

take insurance. It would have cost him too much, and he was a

specialist with a small practice. He provided the forms for his patients

to get reimbursements from their insurance, but we had to fill them out

and wait. I loved the doctor, so I was fine with it.

I have a friend who loved medicine, and would probably make a great

health-care practitioner, but after finding out how much of his life

would be dictated by insurance companies, he changed his mind.

~Robyn

Randi Airola wrote:

>

> My kids see a holistic doctor that doesn't push vacc's down my throat.

> Today in the mail, I got a disturbing post card from the doctor

> stating that our insurance carrier was dropping him as a PPO.

>

> I called to ask what was going on, and was informed that he was being

> dropped as a PPO because " he spends too much time with his patients.

> His colleagues (must be mainstream) can do an appt. in 15 minutes and

> because his averages an hour, they were losing money on him.

>

> And one wonders why when they go to their mainstream doctor their

> shoved in and out like cattle and are pushed vaccines for " preventable

> diseases " . (must be an insurance requirement)

>

>

>

>

>

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health-care practitioner, but after finding out how much of his life

would be dictated by insurance companies, he changed his mind.

~Robyn

this is true. They dictate a lot. My OB used to do your Pap smear on the

6 week visit if you needed one and now he can’t b/c insurance changed

the rules.. so I’m very overdue but I have go in may now b/c of

insurance. They drive me nuts---but I’m glad to have it. The birth would

have been way expensive w/o it!

Nita, Mom to: 14, Jon 13, 10, 8, 6,

Christian (7/16/03 to 8/22/04), 2 and Isaac, 2/308

Learn from the mistakes of others. Trust me... you can't live long

enough to make them all yourself.

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I can still keep him, he's covered under BCBS, what I found appalling was their

reasoning of dropping him as a PPO. (spending too much time with his patients).

To me, this is one of the cornerstones of all things gone awry. Even if he

werent' part of BCBS, I'd take my kids to him anyway regardless of the cost, as

it seems that considering he spends too much time with his patients, he's the

only one that truly cares. I'll take the higher payment vs. mainstream (with a

whopping 15 minutes) that only wants to shove medications at me. No thank

you....

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You may be able to keep him, and just get reimbursed.

For example, you go to him. You pay the full price. You send an

insurance company form, and they will reimburse you for the cost that

they would have incurred had you gone to an in-network doctor. You won't

get all of your money back, but you will get some.

I had an insurance company do this for a doctor I saw who simply did not

take insurance. It would have cost him too much, and he was a

specialist with a small practice. He provided the forms for his patients

to get reimbursements from their insurance, but we had to fill them out

and wait. I loved the doctor, so I was fine with it.

I have a friend who loved medicine, and would probably make a great

health-care practitioner, but after finding out how much of his life

would be dictated by insurance companies, he changed his mind.

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Barb,

I have found over the years with insurance companies the thing you have to

do is outlast them. They are trying to wear you down in hopes that you will

go away. Kind of like our kids when they were little and before Dr. G.

Don't let either of them win. I even got the insurance company to pay for

our ABA specialist we flew in to Minnesota when was little. Of course

I didn't have time to go after them for that until he was somewhat better.

I wrote them over and over again for 6 months with no success. ( Put

everything in writing.) Then I hired an attorney to write one letter and

that was all it took. I guess they thought it was cheaper to pay than face

legal action. Hope it works for you.

Marcia

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thanks, Marcia.  I will do all I can do, but this insurance company seems really

tough. 

Barb Katsaros

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From: and Marcia Hinds <hindssite@...>

Subject: Insurance companies

barbkatsaros@...,

Date: Saturday, November 8, 2008, 8:07 AM

Barb,

I have found over the years with insurance companies the thing you have to

do is outlast them. They are trying to wear you down in hopes that you will

go away. Kind of like our kids when they were little and before Dr. G.

Don't let either of them win. I even got the insurance company to pay for

our ABA specialist we flew in to Minnesota when was little. Of course

I didn't have time to go after them for that until he was somewhat better.

I wrote them over and over again for 6 months with no success. ( Put

everything in writing.) Then I hired an attorney to write one letter and

that was all it took. I guess they thought it was cheaper to pay than face

legal action. Hope it works for you.

Marcia

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I’d ask the Insurance Division to investigate an Unfair Claims

Settlement Practices Act violation for misrepresenting the policy provisions

and see what they do with it. There was an OPB story in the last week or two

dealing with a similar issue where the health insurer would issue a denial

letter and request for additional info instead of merely asking for the

additional info they needed…I was quite surprised to hear that the Insurance

Division imposed a fine on the company for the denial.

Chris

T. Hill, PC

520 SW Sixth Avenue, Suite 1250

Portland, OR 97204

(503) 227-4330

chill@...

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[mailto: ] On Behalf Of bradrethwilldc

Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 2:08 PM

Subject: Insurance companies

Is anyone else seeing a trend with insurance

companies where my

insurance clerk calls to verify coverage, the insurance co. says that

the pt. has no chiro. beneftis, but when you bill the insurance co. the

benefit is paid? BTW, these ins. companies usually have had chiro.

benefits in the past.

Brad Rethwill, DC

Eugene, OR

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