Re: Fwd:Re: ABA and

February 11, 2009

I agree that kids respond differently to therapies, and some do in fact respond

to ABA from what parents say. This was not the case for us however. My son did

some ABA from a provider that was excellent and we had a great line therapist as

well. My son did end up becomming more robiotic and it also did not help

behaviors either. He was smart on it and knew what was going on. It has taken

over 1 year to have certian phrases used in play fade out. These were even done

in very natural way by the therapist. He also rebels with behavioral

treatment.

We do alot of natural learning also and natural sequencing that has helped

alot. My son also needed to work through developmental stages neurologically

that he missed, we did this through a therpy and consultant that also does alot

of natural learning, etc. (He is in the Chicago area). When we did this, he

made alot of progress, and then it even became easier for him to understand

discipline and behvioral issues.

There also is a therapist that did years of providing ABA therapy that no longer

does so, who did not find many studies that were long term on ABA outcomes when

kids get older. The few found relating to long term independent living,

developing friendships and holding a job are poor. I am not saying this is the

case for those out there who have done ABA or are doing it. I agree to look at

research, but what exactly did these studies look at? I know some have done

studies, but look more at an increase in IQ, and speech, etc. While these are

important, they may not look at long term functioning.

I do know others that have chosen other paths as well and have had success, so

do not be discouraged if you do so.

Angie

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> Date: Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 9:53 AM

> Hello all,

>

> I am in need of guidance. We had our phone consult with Dr.

> G last night. He

> is adamantly opposed to ABA and spent some time last night

> go over why ABA

> is not the right approach to take. Right now we have a good

> 20 hour a week

> in home program for our newly four year old son. I am too

> afraid to let it

> go and trust that all of our son's problems will

> resolve in time through the

> protocol. Right now we are considering spending three

> weeks at the

> Judevine School in St. Louis to have a sort of " boot

> camp " like experience

> to help our boy with language, socialization, and potty

> training. I know

> some of you have incorporated ABA and other methods (ie.

> Floortime and RDI)

> along with the protocol. The last thing I want to do

> is overstress our

> child not to mention the stress of financing all of this

> therapy. But at the

> same time I do not want to chance it and let the ABA go.

>

> Is there anyone out there who regrets doing ABA? Does

> anyone have experience

> with the Judevine School? Has anyone out there ever done a

> sort of " boot

> camp " three week approach that was helpful and

> lasting? By the way we think

> our fella is moderate ASD.

>

> Any thoughts would be so appreciated.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Martha Wood

>

February 11, 2009

My son is a former patient of Dr. G. He is now 9 years old and is in a regular

ed 3rd grade class with no aide, no modifications. The other kids dont know he

has autism, as he no longer has behavioral differences. He pretty much acts like

any other 3rd grader. We attribute his significant progress to the GFCF diet

and ABA which he has had since he was 2 years old. He was with Dr. G for 1

year, from 3yrs to 4yrs, but most of his progress has come after that time. At

2, he was diagnosed with severe autism, we were told he would never speak, he

had extreme tantrums and would self injure himself. We feel that ABA is the

reason he no longer has any of these issues. His speech is normal, he maks

jokes constantly and has a great sense of humor. He absolutely does not sound

like a robot, just sounds like a silly little boy.

Just our experience.

~sonya

> From: Martha Wood <_marthawood@ comcast.mar_ (mailto:marthawood@ comcast. net)