Re: recurring mushy stools

[Guest guest]

Is it possible she's getting the flu or has a slight case of the flu? This is

what happens to my son. It's my first indication that he's becoming ill. His

behavior, which is normally excellent, deteriorates--he becomes aggressive,

agitated, etc. He engages in behaviors that he normally would not do, such as

biting me, which he did twice this week. This is by no means normal behavior for

him and he doesn't, thank God, do it to anyone else. He has a tendency to take

it out on me. Zyrtec could be the problem as well. Regarding the scripting,

again, if she's ill, she could be resorting to behavior that provides her some

measure of comfort and predictability.

HTH,

robyn

> From: Hankinson <jlhank80@...>

> Subject: recurring mushy stools

>

> Date: Thursday, February 12, 2009, 10:18 AM

> Hi everyone. I am wondering if anyone could give me

> some insight here about my daughter.

>

> I wrote in recently talking about her outbursts and

> her defiance. Well, after that I accidentally (it

> really was an accident!) forgot to give her Zyrtec for

> 3 nights, and she calmed down a lot. We have a lot

> let outbursts but A LOT more stimming and scripting.

>

> Not only that now, she has mushy stools again. I

> can't think of anything else I can eliminate out of

> this kid's diet! She is GF, CF, yeast free, low

> sugar, dye free, preservative free, egg free and berry

> free.

>

> I don't have an appt. with Dr. until next week

> and I am really concerned now. And so discouraged.

> Any input out there???

>

> Thanks in advance,

>

[Guest guest]

My son had two severe bouts with diarrhea when he was 4. It was a parasite.

Kristy

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Robyn

& Greg Coggins

Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 10:30 AM

Subject: Re: recurring mushy stools

Is it possible she's getting the flu or has a slight case of the flu? This

is what happens to my son. It's my first indication that he's becoming ill.

His behavior, which is normally excellent, deteriorates--he becomes

aggressive, agitated, etc. He engages in behaviors that he normally would

not do, such as biting me, which he did twice this week. This is by no means

normal behavior for him and he doesn't, thank God, do it to anyone else. He

has a tendency to take it out on me. Zyrtec could be the problem as well.

Regarding the scripting, again, if she's ill, she could be resorting to

behavior that provides her some measure of comfort and predictability.

HTH,

robyn

> From: Hankinson <jlhank80@... <mailto:jlhank80%40>

>

> Subject: recurring mushy stools

> <mailto:%40>

> Date: Thursday, February 12, 2009, 10:18 AM

> Hi everyone. I am wondering if anyone could give me

> some insight here about my daughter.

>

> I wrote in recently talking about her outbursts and

> her defiance. Well, after that I accidentally (it

> really was an accident!) forgot to give her Zyrtec for

> 3 nights, and she calmed down a lot. We have a lot

> let outbursts but A LOT more stimming and scripting.

>

> Not only that now, she has mushy stools again. I

> can't think of anything else I can eliminate out of

> this kid's diet! She is GF, CF, yeast free, low

> sugar, dye free, preservative free, egg free and berry

> free.

>

> I don't have an appt. with Dr. until next week

> and I am really concerned now. And so discouraged.

> Any input out there???

>

> Thanks in advance,

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

We don't have specific experience with Zyrtec, but 's stools have

gotten mushy every year for allergy season. I never knew if it was due

to post nasal drip, or the immune response itself. It's happened every

spring and fall pretty much since he was 18 months old. He's been on

the protocol for two years, and this past fall, no stool problems.

Hope this helps.

Alaine

[Guest guest]

Thank you Robyn, this is possible. I guess I have to

wait it out and see.

-

--- Robyn & Greg Coggins <rngcoggs@...>

wrote:

> Is it possible she's getting the flu or has a slight

> case of the flu? This is what happens to my son.

> It's my first indication that he's becoming ill. His

> behavior, which is normally excellent,

> deteriorates--he becomes aggressive, agitated, etc.

> He engages in behaviors that he normally would not

> do, such as biting me, which he did twice this week.

> This is by no means normal behavior for him and he

> doesn't, thank God, do it to anyone else. He has a

> tendency to take it out on me. Zyrtec could be the

> problem as well. Regarding the scripting, again, if

> she's ill, she could be resorting to behavior that

> provides her some measure of comfort and

> predictability.

>

> HTH,

>

> robyn

>

>

>

>

> > From: Hankinson <jlhank80@...>

> > Subject: recurring mushy stools

> >

> > Date: Thursday, February 12, 2009, 10:18 AM

> > Hi everyone. I am wondering if anyone could give

> me

> > some insight here about my daughter.

> >

> > I wrote in recently talking about her outbursts

> and

> > her defiance. Well, after that I accidentally (it

> > really was an accident!) forgot to give her Zyrtec

> for

> > 3 nights, and she calmed down a lot. We have a

> lot

> > let outbursts but A LOT more stimming and

> scripting.

> >

> > Not only that now, she has mushy stools again. I

> > can't think of anything else I can eliminate out

> of

> > this kid's diet! She is GF, CF, yeast free, low

> > sugar, dye free, preservative free, egg free and

> berry

> > free.

> >

> > I don't have an appt. with Dr. until next

> week

> > and I am really concerned now. And so

> discouraged.

> > Any input out there???

> >

> > Thanks in advance,

> >

>

May the Lord bless you and keep you!

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[Guest guest]

I hope she feels better soon.

Robyn

> >

> > > From: Hankinson

> <jlhank80@...>

> > > Subject: recurring mushy stools

> > >

> > > Date: Thursday, February 12, 2009, 10:18 AM

> > > Hi everyone. I am wondering if anyone could give

> > me

> > > some insight here about my daughter.

> > >

> > > I wrote in recently talking about her outbursts

> > and

> > > her defiance. Well, after that I accidentally

> (it

> > > really was an accident!) forgot to give her

> Zyrtec

> > for

> > > 3 nights, and she calmed down a lot. We have a

> > lot

> > > let outbursts but A LOT more stimming and

> > scripting.

> > >

> > > Not only that now, she has mushy stools again. I

> > > can't think of anything else I can eliminate

> out

> > of

> > > this kid's diet! She is GF, CF, yeast free,

> low

> > > sugar, dye free, preservative free, egg free and

> > berry

> > > free.

> > >

> > > I don't have an appt. with Dr. until

> next

> > week

> > > and I am really concerned now. And so

> > discouraged.

> > > Any input out there???

> > >

> > > Thanks in advance,

> > >

> >

>

>

> May the Lord bless you and keep you!

>

>

> Visit my blog

>

> http://bloominwhereyourplanted.blogspot.com/

[Guest guest]

My girl has also problems with the stools, i suspect of parasites because of the

pool and beach (we are in summer); do you know if dr. G recomend something for

this. I was used to GSE, but he doesn´t recomend this. He is recommending just

diet, no vegetables, but it is been 3 weeks and no improvements.

[Guest guest]

Zyrtec and Allegra make my son very irritable, aggressive, and oppositional.  I

didn't catch on immediately because it was a slow build-up.  Like you, it took

running out or forgetting the med to figure it out.  It also seems to take 3-5

days for things to start normalizing after removing the med, and then a little

longer for the attitude, anger, and resentment to get out of their memory, too. 

Zyrtec was a negative, Allegra was even worse.  Dytan works on a different

channel, and does not seem to negatively affect my boys, but it also isn't as

effective - a price I'm willing to pay.  We're trying Singulair to get better

allergy control, but I'm not seeing much of a difference.  I'm going to have to

work harder on diet.  Dr is aware that Zyrtec can cause irritability, so

I think he will work with you on that, and you may not have to wait for your

appt to get it changed if you don't want.

I haven't always been able to find reasons for stool issues, but I have always

noticed that a long term antibiotic (w/ antifungal of course) has always seemed

to clear it up for my youngest.  If you're seeing improvements, I wouldn't fret

too much right now, just keep a food log and rotate some foods (if there are

enough foods in her diet to rotate lol) to see if you can pin down something.  I

think that an up-regulated immune system can do this (recent illness or other

triggers) too, and sometimes time on meds can help.  You'll probably come across

the trigger with a good daily log though.   My kids did not do well with gluten

free.  One had constant diahrrea while on that diet, and neither are GF and have

made great progress.  It may not hurt (with permission from Dr first) to

try a week with small amounts of gluten to see if she responds.  If you're

attempting to replace gluten, sometimes it's the substitutions making things

worse. 

I think Dr has a lower allergy version than most, but I'm not sure

because I haven't really read his & Kathy's recommendations on it.

Don't be too discouraged - it takes time to get all of the pieces together, and

later on she won't be as sensitive and easy to set off, and you'll probably even

be able to expand her diet.  Did Dr instruct you to be yeast free and

preservative free?  Those aren't areas that I put my energies into right now. 

Also, (assuming you've already seen Dr ?) I believe you can call in

between if you have concerns. 

How long has she been on the protocol?  It gets so much easier the second

year...

HTH - hang in there!

________________________________

From: Hankinson <jlhank80@...>

Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 12:18:03 PM

Subject: recurring mushy stools

Hi everyone. I am wondering if anyone could give me

some insight here about my daughter.

I wrote in recently talking about her outbursts and

her defiance. Well, after that I accidentally (it

really was an accident!) forgot to give her Zyrtec for

3 nights, and she calmed down a lot. We have a lot

let outbursts but A LOT more stimming and scripting.

Not only that now, she has mushy stools again. I

can't think of anything else I can eliminate out of

this kid's diet! She is GF, CF, yeast free, low

sugar, dye free, preservative free, egg free and berry

free.

I don't have an appt. with Dr. until next week

and I am really concerned now. And so discouraged.

Any input out there???

Thanks in advance,