Guest guest Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 Does anyone out there have a problem with motivation, our grandson age 10 non verbal has no motivation. We have bought any toy a child would dream for he has 2 new bikes . For christmas we bought him a WII played Carrs( he enjoys watching us play) we do hand over hand he has no interest. He loves anything to do with cars, motorcycles (his Dad takes him rides on his Harley he loves this & long rides in cars but woul not look at the screen while this game was on. Also no motivation while doing anything academics. outside play we have to VP & PP(physically prompt) to get him to make a basket he enjoys swinging & jumping on the trampoline watching his movies while lying in bed .Most of the time he is happy we have done ABA horse back riding,tried PECS,tried to teach typing no interest have tried augmentive device he just pushes picture we P words refuses to use this now. Please any replies would be appreciated. Carole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 Get and read " Engaging Autism " by Dr. Stanley Greenspan. He has two websites, www.stanleygreenspan.com and http://www.icdl.com/ that teach about " Floortime " . The first thing you may need to learn is that what you might think is motivating may not be motivating for him. He may need baby steps, i.e. riding on a motorcycle is very different from trying (or needing and having the motor skills required) to operate one on a video game. Kristy From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of chocolatiluv Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 7:21 AM Subject: How to motivate a child Does anyone out there have a problem with motivation, our grandson age 10 non verbal has no motivation. We have bought any toy a child would dream for he has 2 new bikes . For christmas we bought him a WII played Carrs( he enjoys watching us play) we do hand over hand he has no interest. He loves anything to do with cars, motorcycles (his Dad takes him rides on his Harley he loves this & long rides in cars but woul not look at the screen while this game was on. Also no motivation while doing anything academics. outside play we have to VP & PP(physically prompt) to get him to make a basket he enjoys swinging & jumping on the trampoline watching his movies while lying in bed .Most of the time he is happy we have done ABA horse back riding,tried PECS,tried to teach typing no interest have tried augmentive device he just pushes picture we P words refuses to use this now. Please any replies would be appreciated. Carole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Maybe he does not know what to do also, some times I think my son has no motivation for certain things, and I also realize that he sometimes does not have a clue either. I know of some kids also that have done alot of ABA and get to the point that they really do not do much without being prompted by someone. If not done, they really do not know what to do, nor are very motivated to do anything, maybe out of the stress and pressure to always perform. You can also look at RDI, it is done with the parent with a consultant, www.rdiconnect.com. The goal is to restore relationships, and get joy back out of them. They do sell a dvd intro that explains the therapy that may be worth buying for more detailed information. We do this therapy, and really enjoy and so does my son. You can email me also with any more questions on this. Angie Angie From: Kristy Nardini <knardini@...> Subject: RE: How to motivate a child Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 9:42 PM Get and read " Engaging Autism " by Dr. Stanley Greenspan. He has two websites, www.stanleygreenspa n.com and http://www.icdl. com/ that teach about " Floortime " . The first thing you may need to learn is that what you might think is motivating may not be motivating for him. He may need baby steps, i.e. riding on a motorcycle is very different from trying (or needing and having the motor skills required) to operate one on a video game. Kristy From: groups (DOT) com [mailto:groups (DOT) com] On Behalf Of chocolatiluv Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 7:21 AM groups (DOT) com Subject: How to motivate a child Does anyone out there have a problem with motivation, our grandson age 10 non verbal has no motivation. We have bought any toy a child would dream for he has 2 new bikes . For christmas we bought him a WII played Carrs( he enjoys watching us play) we do hand over hand he has no interest. He loves anything to do with cars, motorcycles (his Dad takes him rides on his Harley he loves this & long rides in cars but woul not look at the screen while this game was on. Also no motivation while doing anything academics. outside play we have to VP & PP(physically prompt) to get him to make a basket he enjoys swinging & jumping on the trampoline watching his movies while lying in bed .Most of the time he is happy we have done ABA horse back riding,tried PECS,tried to teach typing no interest have tried augmentive device he just pushes picture we P words refuses to use this now. Please any replies would be appreciated. Carole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2009 Report Share Posted January 24, 2009 I'm currently reading a book by Leonard Sax, MD, PhD, called " Boys Adrift: The Five Factors Driving the Growing Epidemic of Unmotivated Boys and Underachieving Young Men " . It's an interesting and easy to follow book. I recommend it to all parents with boys. I also read " Why Gender Matters " by the same author this month (both are at my local library) and recommend it to all parents/teachers/adults who work with kids. Boys Adrift touches on most of the items/ideas in Why Gender Matters so if you have a boy and only read one, read that. Of course it is written about " typical kids " but our children are children first, who happen to have medical issues, so a lot could be applied to them as well. - in Mobile, AL ______________________________________ " You must write for children in the same way as you do for adults, only better. " -Maxim Gorky (Aleksey Maksimovich Peshkov) Reality lies beyond the horizon... Wonderwegian How to motivate a child Does anyone out there have a problem with motivation, our grandson age 10 non verbal has no motivation. We have bought any toy a child would dream for he has 2 new bikes . For christmas we bought him a WII played Carrs( he enjoys watching us play) we do hand over hand he has no interest. He loves anything to do with cars, motorcycles (his Dad takes him rides on his Harley he loves this & long rides in cars but woul not look at the screen while this game was on. Also no motivation while doing anything academics. outside play we have to VP & PP(physically prompt) to get him to make a basket he enjoys swinging & jumping on the trampoline watching his movies while lying in bed .Most of the time he is happy we have done ABA horse back riding,tried PECS,tried to teach typing no interest have tried augmentive device he just pushes picture we P words refuses to use this now. Please any replies would be appreciated. Carole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2009 Report Share Posted January 24, 2009 Well done Sherri you sound like a trooper Mom.(pardon the pun) In a message dated 24/01/2009 17:34:05 GMT Standard Time, eszbi5@... writes: Three years ago when we adopted our daughter she sat, screamed, rocked and stared at her hands. I never gave her any form of formal training so to speak to get her to do things. I did however tell her to do things and when she didn't listen I took her by the hand and showed her what to do. I was not stingy with holding time, (when we first adopted her she did not like to be touched, nor did I hesitate to put her in the corner for bad behaviors. I have never removed her from a situation because of behaviors unless she was disrupting others. In the beginning she was afraid of everything, cars, stores, the vacuum, clothes, you name it she had a problem with it. Instead of avoiding things that made her uncomfortable I took the bull by the horn and I put her into that situation every chance that I had. I can remember taking her into Walmart and she was screaming. I took her in to the baby section and told her that when she stopped crying we would leave. I said it calmly over and over for nearly 3 hours. Then she calmed down and we left. I am sure that the employees were happy to see us leave. The next day we returned and when she cried I told her that when she stopped crying we could finish our shopping and we would leave. That day we were out for about 2 hours. The following day we returned and she cried but it was only about 15 minutes. fast forward 3 years and I mention shopping is putting on her shoes. I did this with everything. When tights bothered her I changed her tights every hour until the change in texture did not bother her. I also did a lot of holding her and telling her that she was safe and that Mommy loves her. Today she climbs into my arms and goes to sleep. She is able to follow 2-3 step commands. At nearly 7 years of age she is doing age appropriate activities and we can take her anywhere and do anything. We took her to Disney last April and she had a blast even riding the rides. We are looking forward to going back next year. BTW I have 4 children and my husband is in the military and in Iraq at the moment plus I work. What I did with worked for her. No one could imagine what she was like. Developmentally she was 9 months and the only way to describe her was primal, when we adopted her and she was really 3.5 years of age, I was scared to death when I saw how much work we had ahead of us. Maybe this will give some of you idea's of things that may help with your children. Desensitizing has really helped our quality of life but I do not discredit any other methods. Sheri From: Kristy Nardini <knardini@roadrunneknardini@r <mailto:knardini% 40roadrunner. com> > Subject: RE: How to motivate a child groups (DOT) com <mailto:% 40groups. com> Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 9:42 PM Get and read " Engaging Autism " by Dr. Stanley Greenspan. He has two websites, www.stanleygreenspa n.com and _http://www.icdl._ (http://www.icdl./) com/ that teach about " Floortime " . The first thing you may need to learn is that what you might think is motivating may not be motivating for him. He may need baby steps, i.e. riding on a motorcycle is very different from trying (or needing and having the motor skills required) to operate one on a video game. Kristy From: groups (DOT) com [mailto:@ groups. com] On Behalf Of chocolatiluv Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 7:21 AM groups (DOT) com Subject: How to motivate a child Does anyone out there have a problem with motivation, our grandson age 10 non verbal has no motivation. We have bought any toy a child would dream for he has 2 new bikes . For christmas we bought him a WII played Carrs( he enjoys watching us play) we do hand over hand he has no interest. He loves anything to do with cars, motorcycles (his Dad takes him rides on his Harley he loves this & long rides in cars but woul not look at the screen while this game was on. Also no motivation while doing anything academics. outside play we have to VP & PP(physically prompt) to get him to make a basket he enjoys swinging & jumping on the trampoline watching his movies while lying in bed .Most of the time he is happy we have done ABA horse back riding,tried PECS,tried to teach typing no interest have tried augmentive device he just pushes picture we P words refuses to use this now. Please any replies would be appreciated. Carole [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2009 Report Share Posted January 24, 2009 We are doing RDI, too. Very similar to Floortime, although RDI is more structured. Floortime is something that anyone can do, and can get started with right away. I'm not sure if your RDI program is like ours, but my husband and I are meeting with our RDI consultant once a week for 8 weeks for parent training before my son will participate with us. Also, our consultant told us the goal of RDI is for more communication, whereas Floortime focuses on engagement and shared attention. Of course, I believe both methods will lead to both better communication and more shared attention. The original poster asked about motivation, and IMHO, I think Floortime is a faster path to motivation than RDI. Kristy From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of angie huiz Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 8:29 PM Subject: RE: How to motivate a child Maybe he does not know what to do also, some times I think my son has no motivation for certain things, and I also realize that he sometimes does not have a clue either. I know of some kids also that have done alot of ABA and get to the point that they really do not do much without being prompted by someone. If not done, they really do not know what to do, nor are very motivated to do anything, maybe out of the stress and pressure to always perform. You can also look at RDI, it is done with the parent with a consultant, www.rdiconnect.com. The goal is to restore relationships, and get joy back out of them. They do sell a dvd intro that explains the therapy that may be worth buying for more detailed information. We do this therapy, and really enjoy and so does my son. You can email me also with any more questions on this. Angie Angie From: Kristy Nardini <knardini@... <mailto:knardini%40roadrunner.com> > Subject: RE: How to motivate a child <mailto:%40> Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 9:42 PM Get and read " Engaging Autism " by Dr. Stanley Greenspan. He has two websites, www.stanleygreenspa n.com and http://www.icdl. com/ that teach about " Floortime " . The first thing you may need to learn is that what you might think is motivating may not be motivating for him. He may need baby steps, i.e. riding on a motorcycle is very different from trying (or needing and having the motor skills required) to operate one on a video game. Kristy From: groups (DOT) com [mailto:groups (DOT) com] On Behalf Of chocolatiluv Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 7:21 AM groups (DOT) com Subject: How to motivate a child Does anyone out there have a problem with motivation, our grandson age 10 non verbal has no motivation. We have bought any toy a child would dream for he has 2 new bikes . For christmas we bought him a WII played Carrs( he enjoys watching us play) we do hand over hand he has no interest. He loves anything to do with cars, motorcycles (his Dad takes him rides on his Harley he loves this & long rides in cars but woul not look at the screen while this game was on. Also no motivation while doing anything academics. outside play we have to VP & PP(physically prompt) to get him to make a basket he enjoys swinging & jumping on the trampoline watching his movies while lying in bed .Most of the time he is happy we have done ABA horse back riding,tried PECS,tried to teach typing no interest have tried augmentive device he just pushes picture we P words refuses to use this now. Please any replies would be appreciated. Carole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2009 Report Share Posted January 24, 2009 Three years ago when we adopted our daughter she sat, screamed, rocked and stared at her hands. I never gave her any form of formal training so to speak to get her to do things. I did however tell her to do things and when she didn't listen I took her by the hand and showed her what to do. I was not stingy with holding time, (when we first adopted her she did not like to be touched, nor did I hesitate to put her in the corner for bad behaviors. I have never removed her from a situation because of behaviors unless she was disrupting others. In the beginning she was afraid of everything, cars, stores, the vacuum, clothes, you name it she had a problem with it. Instead of avoiding things that made her uncomfortable I took the bull by the horn and I put her into that situation every chance that I had. I can remember taking her into Walmart and she was screaming. I took her in to the baby section and told her that when she stopped crying we would leave. I said it calmly over and over for nearly 3 hours. Then she calmed down and we left. I am sure that the employees were happy to see us leave. The next day we returned and when she cried I told her that when she stopped crying we could finish our shopping and we would leave. That day we were out for about 2 hours. The following day we returned and she cried but it was only about 15 minutes. fast forward 3 years and I mention shopping is putting on her shoes. I did this with everything. When tights bothered her I changed her tights every hour until the change in texture did not bother her. I also did a lot of holding her and telling her that she was safe and that Mommy loves her. Today she climbs into my arms and goes to sleep. She is able to follow 2-3 step commands. At nearly 7 years of age she is doing age appropriate activities and we can take her anywhere and do anything. We took her to Disney last April and she had a blast even riding the rides. We are looking forward to going back next year. BTW I have 4 children and my husband is in the military and in Iraq at the moment plus I work. What I did with worked for her. No one could imagine what she was like. Developmentally she was 9 months and the only way to describe her was primal, when we adopted her and she was really 3.5 years of age, I was scared to death when I saw how much work we had ahead of us. Maybe this will give some of you idea's of things that may help with your children. Desensitizing has really helped our quality of life but I do not discredit any other methods. Sheri From: Kristy Nardini <knardini@roadrunner .com <mailto:knardini% 40roadrunner. com> > Subject: RE: How to motivate a child groups (DOT) com <mailto:% 40groups. com> Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 9:42 PM Get and read " Engaging Autism " by Dr. Stanley Greenspan. He has two websites, www.stanleygreenspa n.com and http://www.icdl. com/ that teach about " Floortime " . The first thing you may need to learn is that what you might think is motivating may not be motivating for him. He may need baby steps, i.e. riding on a motorcycle is very different from trying (or needing and having the motor skills required) to operate one on a video game. Kristy From: groups (DOT) com [mailto:] On Behalf Of chocolatiluv Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 7:21 AM groups (DOT) com Subject: How to motivate a child Does anyone out there have a problem with motivation, our grandson age 10 non verbal has no motivation. We have bought any toy a child would dream for he has 2 new bikes . For christmas we bought him a WII played Carrs( he enjoys watching us play) we do hand over hand he has no interest. He loves anything to do with cars, motorcycles (his Dad takes him rides on his Harley he loves this & long rides in cars but woul not look at the screen while this game was on. Also no motivation while doing anything academics. outside play we have to VP & PP(physically prompt) to get him to make a basket he enjoys swinging & jumping on the trampoline watching his movies while lying in bed .Most of the time he is happy we have done ABA horse back riding,tried PECS,tried to teach typing no interest have tried augmentive device he just pushes picture we P words refuses to use this now. Please any replies would be appreciated. Carole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2009 Report Share Posted January 24, 2009 Dr. Greenspan talks a lot about sensory issues and regulation issues in his work (again, I highly recommend " Engaging Autism " ). It is essential for helping most of our kiddos. Kristy From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Sheri Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 9:34 AM Subject: RE: How to motivate a child Three years ago when we adopted our daughter she sat, screamed, rocked and stared at her hands. I never gave her any form of formal training so to speak to get her to do things. I did however tell her to do things and when she didn't listen I took her by the hand and showed her what to do. I was not stingy with holding time, (when we first adopted her she did not like to be touched, nor did I hesitate to put her in the corner for bad behaviors. I have never removed her from a situation because of behaviors unless she was disrupting others. In the beginning she was afraid of everything, cars, stores, the vacuum, clothes, you name it she had a problem with it. Instead of avoiding things that made her uncomfortable I took the bull by the horn and I put her into that situation every chance that I had. I can remember taking her into Walmart and she was screaming. I took her in to the baby section and told her that when she stopped crying we would leave. I said it calmly over and over for nearly 3 hours. Then she calmed down and we left. I am sure that the employees were happy to see us leave. The next day we returned and when she cried I told her that when she stopped crying we could finish our shopping and we would leave. That day we were out for about 2 hours. The following day we returned and she cried but it was only about 15 minutes. fast forward 3 years and I mention shopping is putting on her shoes. I did this with everything. When tights bothered her I changed her tights every hour until the change in texture did not bother her. I also did a lot of holding her and telling her that she was safe and that Mommy loves her. Today she climbs into my arms and goes to sleep. She is able to follow 2-3 step commands. At nearly 7 years of age she is doing age appropriate activities and we can take her anywhere and do anything. We took her to Disney last April and she had a blast even riding the rides. We are looking forward to going back next year. BTW I have 4 children and my husband is in the military and in Iraq at the moment plus I work. What I did with worked for her. No one could imagine what she was like. Developmentally she was 9 months and the only way to describe her was primal, when we adopted her and she was really 3.5 years of age, I was scared to death when I saw how much work we had ahead of us. Maybe this will give some of you idea's of things that may help with your children. Desensitizing has really helped our quality of life but I do not discredit any other methods. Sheri From: Kristy Nardini <knardini@roadrunner .com <mailto:knardini% 40roadrunner. com> > Subject: RE: How to motivate a child groups (DOT) com <mailto:% 40groups. com> Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 9:42 PM Get and read " Engaging Autism " by Dr. Stanley Greenspan. He has two websites, www.stanleygreenspa n.com and http://www.icdl. com/ that teach about " Floortime " . The first thing you may need to learn is that what you might think is motivating may not be motivating for him. He may need baby steps, i.e. riding on a motorcycle is very different from trying (or needing and having the motor skills required) to operate one on a video game. Kristy From: groups (DOT) com [mailto:] On Behalf Of chocolatiluv Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 7:21 AM groups (DOT) com Subject: How to motivate a child Does anyone out there have a problem with motivation, our grandson age 10 non verbal has no motivation. We have bought any toy a child would dream for he has 2 new bikes . For christmas we bought him a WII played Carrs( he enjoys watching us play) we do hand over hand he has no interest. He loves anything to do with cars, motorcycles (his Dad takes him rides on his Harley he loves this & long rides in cars but woul not look at the screen while this game was on. Also no motivation while doing anything academics. outside play we have to VP & PP(physically prompt) to get him to make a basket he enjoys swinging & jumping on the trampoline watching his movies while lying in bed .Most of the time he is happy we have done ABA horse back riding,tried PECS,tried to teach typing no interest have tried augmentive device he just pushes picture we P words refuses to use this now. Please any replies would be appreciated. Carole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2009 Report Share Posted January 24, 2009 - Floortime is aabsolutely the best thing I have ever done for my kid. Even above diet etc. My son has some theory of mind, I don't know if he would if it wasn't for Greenspan. His biggest problems now are being able to stop what he is thinking of(hyperfocus). #years ago I could have walk in the room on fire and he would not have noticed. His body is still somewhat of a mess, but is enganged and calls friends on the phone to see if they want to come over. You can actually have appt with him or Serena weider. It's worth it. - In , " Kristy Nardini " <knardini@...> wrote: > > Dr. Greenspan talks a lot about sensory issues and regulation issues in his > work (again, I highly recommend " Engaging Autism " ). It is essential for > helping most of our kiddos. > > > > Kristy > > > > From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Sheri > Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 9:34 AM > > Subject: RE: How to motivate a child > > > > Three years ago when we adopted our daughter she sat, screamed, rocked and > stared at her hands. I never gave her any form of formal training so to > speak to get her to do things. I did however tell her to do things and when > she didn't listen I took her by the hand and showed her what to do. I was > not stingy with holding time, (when we first adopted her she did not like to > be touched, nor did I hesitate to put her in the corner for bad behaviors. > I have never removed her from a situation because of behaviors unless she > was disrupting others. In the beginning she was afraid of everything, cars, > stores, the vacuum, clothes, you name it she had a problem with it. Instead > of avoiding things that made her uncomfortable I took the bull by the horn > and I put her into that situation every chance that I had. I can remember > taking her into Walmart and she was screaming. I took her in to the baby > section and told her that when she stopped > crying we would leave. I said it calmly over and over for nearly 3 hours. > Then she calmed down and we left. I am sure that the employees were happy > to see us leave. The next day we returned and when she cried I told her > that when she stopped crying we could finish our shopping and we would > leave. That day we were out for about 2 hours. The following day we > returned and she cried but it was only about 15 minutes. fast forward 3 > years and I mention shopping is putting on her shoes. I did this > with everything. When tights bothered her I changed her tights every hour > until the change in texture did not bother her. I also did a lot of > holding her and telling her that she was safe and that Mommy loves her. > Today she climbs into my arms and goes to sleep. She is able to follow 2-3 > step commands. At nearly 7 years of age she is doing age appropriate > activities and we can take her anywhere and do anything. We took her > to Disney last April and she had a blast even riding the rides. We are > looking forward to going back next year. BTW I have 4 children and my > husband is in the military and in Iraq at the moment plus I work. What I > did with worked for her. No one could imagine what she was like. > Developmentally she was 9 months and the only way to describe her was > primal, when we adopted her and she was really 3.5 years of age, I was > scared to death when I saw how much work we had ahead of us. Maybe this > will give some of you idea's of things that may help with your children. > Desensitizing has really helped our quality of life but I do not discredit > any other methods. Sheri > > > > From: Kristy Nardini <knardini@roadrunner .com > <mailto:knardini% 40roadrunner. com> > > Subject: RE: How to motivate a child > groups (DOT) com <mailto:% 40groups. com> > Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 9:42 PM > > Get and read " Engaging Autism " by Dr. Stanley Greenspan. He has two > websites, www.stanleygreenspa n.com and http://www.icdl. com/ that teach > about > " Floortime " . > > The first thing you may need to learn is that what you might think is > motivating may not be motivating for him. He may need baby steps, i.e. > riding on a motorcycle is very different from trying (or needing and having > the motor skills required) to operate one on a video game. > > Kristy > > From: groups (DOT) com [mailto:] On Behalf Of > chocolatiluv > Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 7:21 AM > groups (DOT) com > Subject: How to motivate a child > > Does anyone out there have a problem with motivation, our grandson age > 10 non verbal has no motivation. > We have bought any toy a child would dream for he has 2 new bikes . > For christmas we bought him a WII played Carrs( he enjoys watching us > play) we do hand over hand he has no interest. He loves anything to do > with cars, motorcycles (his Dad takes him rides on his Harley he loves > this & long rides in cars but woul not look at the screen while this > game was on. > Also no motivation while doing anything academics. outside play we have > to VP & PP(physically prompt) to get him to make a basket he enjoys > swinging & jumping on the trampoline watching his movies while lying in > bed .Most of the time he is happy we have done ABA horse back > riding,tried PECS,tried to teach typing no interest have tried > augmentive device he just pushes picture we P words refuses to use > this now. > Please any replies would be appreciated. > Carole > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2009 Report Share Posted January 24, 2009 Thanks for the feedback on Floortime, it is something I have meant to check out, but of course can only do so many things at one time. I have been looking also at something to increase engagement, my son is usually motivated but has a hard time staying with me in an attention sort of way. So thanks for the tip. Did you find that floortime also really helped with play skills? The aba method of this for my son did not help his play skills at all. How about social interaction with other kids? Do you use a consultant for this also? Our RDI consultant also talks about engagement, and it is something we are working towards but will come a little later. We also do alot of communication things and it is amazing what my high functioning son does not know about it, even as simple as head nodding. She really works out of the motivation for things is also the other person and starts off with simple relationship things for this. > > From: Kristy Nardini <knardini@roadrunne r .com > <mailto:knardini% 40roadrunner. com> > > Subject: RE: How to motivate a child > groups (DOT) com <mailto:% 40groups. com> > Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 9:42 PM > > Get and read " Engaging Autism " by Dr. Stanley Greenspan. He has two > websites, www.stanleygreenspa n.com and http://www.icdl. com/ that teach > about > " Floortime " . > > The first thing you may need to learn is that what you might think is > motivating may not be motivating for him. He may need baby steps, i.e. > riding on a motorcycle is very different from trying (or needing and having > the motor skills required) to operate one on a video game. > > Kristy > > From: groups (DOT) com [mailto:] On Behalf Of > chocolatiluv > Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 7:21 AM > groups (DOT) com > Subject: How to motivate a child > > Does anyone out there have a problem with motivation, our grandson age > 10 non verbal has no motivation. > We have bought any toy a child would dream for he has 2 new bikes . > For christmas we bought him a WII played Carrs( he enjoys watching us > play) we do hand over hand he has no interest. He loves anything to do > with cars, motorcycles (his Dad takes him rides on his Harley he loves > this & long rides in cars but woul not look at the screen while this > game was on. > Also no motivation while doing anything academics. outside play we have > to VP & PP(physically prompt) to get him to make a basket he enjoys > swinging & jumping on the trampoline watching his movies while lying in > bed .Most of the time he is happy we have done ABA horse back > riding,tried PECS,tried to teach typing no interest have tried > augmentive device he just pushes picture we P words refuses to use > this now. > Please any replies would be appreciated. > Carole > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2009 Report Share Posted January 25, 2009 I did use someone local for this and I also managed to get some hours through our school district when he was in pre-school. This did help his pretend play skills tremendously and flexibilty. This is not to say he does not get these obsessive ideas in his play. He is very creative, to a point that it gets in his way. In a floortime world, nothing should be used for what it is, meaning even a robot can have shy moments or be scared of some disaster. There needs to be a why or how come to alot of actions and the feelings behind thier actions. This helps the child become a poet of his own feelings. This becomes very hard when this happens, but very good for the child. I can't say that I love when my kid cries to me about his challenges, but I helps us to understand specifically what they are now. My feeling is that every method of therapy is very helpful and every method can lack something, and in time it starts to become more of the in the moment thing. We are now at a point where we have intective play dates, and they do not need faciltion for him to stay engaged, he does however sometimes have trouble following their idea if he has his own. However, he will do alot of things in his power to keep that child following him. Definitely a start. We are getting there. What I have found also, with a play date anyway, I need to let them play with something they are both really interested in, this is not always easy. If my son has a lot more interest in something more than his friend, this will be hard for him to follow the other child when that child gets bored. Now on the flip side, if you find soomething that neither of them really like, they will get bored of it together and start just being goofy together becasue they are both trying to get out of the situation. Next thing you know, they are making suggestions together where they can go to hide from me. Anyway just some food for though, I have looked into RDI also. I think it seems wonderful. Howver, I don't think it allows for playdates(dyads) as quickly as it should. This is just my opinion, the more play dates the better. It's ok even if kids sit on the couch together and watch a movie. Maybe not that interactive, but in time this leads to them stealing the cover from eachother, etc. We have done many of the non-verbal type things that are in the RDI boo, but Greenspan pushes that too. This is such a crucial piece. > > > > From: Kristy Nardini <knardini@roadrunne r .com > > <mailto:knardini% 40roadrunner. com> > > > Subject: RE: How to motivate a child > > groups (DOT) com <mailto:% 40groups. com> > > Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 9:42 PM > > > > Get and read " Engaging Autism " by Dr. Stanley Greenspan. He has two > > websites, www.stanleygreenspa n.com and http://www.icdl. com/ that > teach > > about > > " Floortime " . > > > > The first thing you may need to learn is that what you might think > is > > motivating may not be motivating for him. He may need baby steps, > i.e. > > riding on a motorcycle is very different from trying (or needing > and having > > the motor skills required) to operate one on a video game. > > > > Kristy > > > > From: groups (DOT) com [mailto:] On > Behalf Of > > chocolatiluv > > Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 7:21 AM > > groups (DOT) com > > Subject: How to motivate a child > > > > Does anyone out there have a problem with motivation, our grandson > age > > 10 non verbal has no motivation. > > We have bought any toy a child would dream for he has 2 new bikes . > > For christmas we bought him a WII played Carrs( he enjoys watching > us > > play) we do hand over hand he has no interest. He loves anything to > do > > with cars, motorcycles (his Dad takes him rides on his Harley he > loves > > this & long rides in cars but woul not look at the screen while > this > > game was on. > > Also no motivation while doing anything academics. outside play we > have > > to VP & PP(physically prompt) to get him to make a basket he enjoys > > swinging & jumping on the trampoline watching his movies while > lying in > > bed .Most of the time he is happy we have done ABA horse back > > riding,tried PECS,tried to teach typing no interest have tried > > augmentive device he just pushes picture we P words refuses to use > > this now. > > Please any replies would be appreciated. > > Carole > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 That took a lot of effort and guts! It must've been emotionally draining, but emotionally satisfying when you look at your daughter now. All the best, Robyn > > From: Kristy Nardini <knardini@roadrunneknardini@r > <mailto:knardini% 40roadrunner. com> > > Subject: RE: How to motivate a child > groups (DOT) com <mailto:% 40groups. > com> > Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 9:42 PM > > Get and read " Engaging Autism " by Dr. Stanley > Greenspan. He has two > websites, www.stanleygreenspa n.com and _http://www.icdl._ > (http://www.icdl./) com/ that teach > about > " Floortime " . > > The first thing you may need to learn is that what you > might think is > motivating may not be motivating for him. He may need baby > steps, i.e. > riding on a motorcycle is very different from trying (or > needing and having > the motor skills required) to operate one on a video game. > > Kristy > > From: groups (DOT) com [mailto:@ groups. > com] On Behalf Of > chocolatiluv > Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 7:21 AM > groups (DOT) com > Subject: How to motivate a child > > Does anyone out there have a problem with motivation, our > grandson age > 10 non verbal has no motivation. > We have bought any toy a child would dream for he has 2 > new bikes . > For christmas we bought him a WII played Carrs( he enjoys > watching us > play) we do hand over hand he has no interest. He loves > anything to do > with cars, motorcycles (his Dad takes him rides on his > Harley he loves > this & long rides in cars but woul not look at the > screen while this > game was on. > Also no motivation while doing anything academics. outside > play we have > to VP & PP(physically prompt) to get him to make a > basket he enjoys > swinging & jumping on the trampoline watching his > movies while lying in > bed .Most of the time he is happy we have done ABA horse > back > riding,tried PECS,tried to teach typing no interest have > tried > augmentive device he just pushes picture we P words > refuses to use > this now. > Please any replies would be appreciated. > Carole > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 No one said that it was easy. LOL It was probably the most difficult thing that I have ever gone though. I should say that our family has ever gone though. Trust me when I tell you our family was tested. Today when I see her doing things that I didn't think would be possible and I get notes home from her teacher telling me that knows all of her sight words and she is able to follow along in a level 1 book, that she is following directions, and too many other things to mention, I realize that all of what we did was worth it. Today is a good girl and she is pleasant to be around. In two weeks my husband is coming home from Iraq for his 2 weeks R & R picking him up and going to Florida with the family. Instead of dreading how will behave I am looking forward to seeing her enjoy herself. She loved Disney last year and now she is a year better. Everything we went through was so worth it. Sheri > > From: Kristy Nardini <knardini@roadrunne knardini@ r > <mailto:knardini% 40roadrunner. com> > > Subject: RE: How to motivate a child > groups (DOT) com <mailto:% 40groups. > com> > Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 9:42 PM > > Get and read " Engaging Autism " by Dr. Stanley > Greenspan. He has two > websites, www.stanleygreenspa n.com and _http://www.icdl. _ > (http://www.icdl. /) com/ that teach > about > " Floortime " . > > The first thing you may need to learn is that what you > might think is > motivating may not be motivating for him. He may need baby > steps, i.e. > riding on a motorcycle is very different from trying (or > needing and having > the motor skills required) to operate one on a video game. > > Kristy > > From: groups (DOT) com [mailto:@ groups. > com] On Behalf Of > chocolatiluv > Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 7:21 AM > groups (DOT) com > Subject: How to motivate a child > > Does anyone out there have a problem with motivation, our > grandson age > 10 non verbal has no motivation. > We have bought any toy a child would dream for he has 2 > new bikes . > For christmas we bought him a WII played Carrs( he enjoys > watching us > play) we do hand over hand he has no interest. He loves > anything to do > with cars, motorcycles (his Dad takes him rides on his > Harley he loves > this & long rides in cars but woul not look at the > screen while this > game was on. > Also no motivation while doing anything academics. outside > play we have > to VP & PP(physically prompt) to get him to make a > basket he enjoys > swinging & jumping on the trampoline watching his > movies while lying in > bed .Most of the time he is happy we have done ABA horse > back > riding,tried PECS,tried to teach typing no interest have > tried > augmentive device he just pushes picture we P words > refuses to use > this now. > Please any replies would be appreciated. > Carole > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 That is so encouraging, Sheri. Thank you for sharing. I struggle today with my daughter and it helps to know things will get better in the end. -Jennie --- Sheri <eszbi5@...> wrote: > No one said that it was easy. LOL It was probably > the most difficult thing that I have ever gone > though. I should say that our family has ever gone > though. Trust me when I tell you our family was > tested. Today when I see her doing things that I > didn't think would be possible and I get notes home > from her teacher telling me that knows all of > her sight words and she is able to follow along in a > level 1 book, that she is following directions, and > too many other things to mention, I realize that all > of what we did was worth it. Today is a good > girl and she is pleasant to be around. > In two weeks my husband is coming home from Iraq for > his 2 weeks R & R picking him up and going to > Florida with the family. Instead of dreading how > will behave I am looking forward to seeing > her enjoy herself. She loved Disney last year and > now she is a year better. Everything we went > through was so worth it. Sheri > > > > > > From: Kristy Nardini <_knardini@roadrunn erknar_ > > (mailto:knardini@roadrunner .com) > > > Subject: RE: How to motivate a child > > _groups (DOT) NID_ > (mailto:groups (DOT) com) > > Date: Saturday, January 24, 2009, 11:15 AM > > > > We are doing RDI, too. Very similar to Floortime, > although > > RDI is more > > structured. Floortime is something that anyone can > do, and > > can get started > > with right away. I'm not sure if your RDI program > is > > like ours, but my > > husband and I are meeting with our RDI consultant > once a > > week for 8 weeks > > for parent training before my son will participate > with > > us. Also, our > > consultant told us the goal of RDI is for more > > communication, whereas > > Floortime focuses on engagement and shared > attention. Of > > course, I believe > > both methods will lead to both better > communication and > > more shared > > attention. The original poster asked about > motivation, and > > IMHO, I think > > Floortime is a faster path to motivation than RDI. > > > > === message truncated === May the Lord bless you and keep you! Visit my blog http://bloominwhereyourplanted.blogspot.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 Congratulations to you and your family. Not only did you succeed with your daughter, you did it under the most difficult of circumstances . . . your husband's deployment. Please thank your husband for his service and thank you to you and your children for your sacrifice. All the best, Robyn > > > > From: Kristy Nardini <knardini@roadrunne knardini@ > r > > <mailto:knardini% 40roadrunner. com> > > > Subject: RE: How to motivate a child > > groups (DOT) com <mailto:% > 40groups. > > com> > > Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 9:42 PM > > > > Get and read " Engaging Autism " by Dr. > Stanley > > Greenspan. He has two > > websites, www.stanleygreenspa n.com and > _http://www.icdl. _ > > (http://www.icdl. /) com/ that teach > > about > > " Floortime " . > > > > The first thing you may need to learn is that what you > > might think is > > motivating may not be motivating for him. He may need > baby > > steps, i.e. > > riding on a motorcycle is very different from trying > (or > > needing and having > > the motor skills required) to operate one on a video > game. > > > > Kristy > > > > From: groups (DOT) com [mailto:@ groups. > > com] On Behalf Of > > chocolatiluv > > Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 7:21 AM > > groups (DOT) com > > Subject: How to motivate a child > > > > Does anyone out there have a problem with motivation, > our > > grandson age > > 10 non verbal has no motivation. > > We have bought any toy a child would dream for he has > 2 > > new bikes . > > For christmas we bought him a WII played Carrs( he > enjoys > > watching us > > play) we do hand over hand he has no interest. He > loves > > anything to do > > with cars, motorcycles (his Dad takes him rides on his > > Harley he loves > > this & long rides in cars but woul not look at the > > screen while this > > game was on. > > Also no motivation while doing anything academics. > outside > > play we have > > to VP & PP(physically prompt) to get him to make a > > basket he enjoys > > swinging & jumping on the trampoline watching his > > movies while lying in > > bed .Most of the time he is happy we have done ABA > horse > > back > > riding,tried PECS,tried to teach typing no interest > have > > tried > > augmentive device he just pushes picture we P words > > refuses to use > > this now. > > Please any replies would be appreciated. > > Carole > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 We did the desensitizing thing, too, only a much differently. We started by getting him comfortable with a few people and then very slowly branched out into the " real world " . We started with quieter, less crowded places, and very slowly branched to more sensory overloading places. Places like Walmart were the last places we ventured to because they're even sensorily disordering for me. Each time, we'd prepare him for the experience, watch for signs of overload and then back off, going a bit further each time. Fairly soon, he looked forward to the outings and tried his best to manage his senses so he could handle it better. Gaylen **************From Wall Street to Main Street and everywhere in between, stay up-to-date with the latest news. (http://aol.com?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000023) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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