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Does anyone out there have a problem with motivation, our grandson age

10 non verbal has no motivation.

We have bought any toy a child would dream for he has 2 new bikes .

For christmas we bought him a WII played Carrs( he enjoys watching us

play) we do hand over hand he has no interest. He loves anything to do

with cars, motorcycles (his Dad takes him rides on his Harley he loves

this & long rides in cars but woul not look at the screen while this

game was on.

Also no motivation while doing anything academics. outside play we have

to VP & PP(physically prompt) to get him to make a basket he enjoys

swinging & jumping on the trampoline watching his movies while lying in

bed .Most of the time he is happy we have done ABA horse back

riding,tried PECS,tried to teach typing no interest have tried

augmentive device he just pushes picture we P words refuses to use

this now.

Please any replies would be appreciated.

Carole

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Get and read " Engaging Autism " by Dr. Stanley Greenspan. He has two

websites, www.stanleygreenspan.com and http://www.icdl.com/ that teach about

" Floortime " .

The first thing you may need to learn is that what you might think is

motivating may not be motivating for him. He may need baby steps, i.e.

riding on a motorcycle is very different from trying (or needing and having

the motor skills required) to operate one on a video game.

Kristy

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

chocolatiluv

Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 7:21 AM

Subject: How to motivate a child

Does anyone out there have a problem with motivation, our grandson age

10 non verbal has no motivation.

We have bought any toy a child would dream for he has 2 new bikes .

For christmas we bought him a WII played Carrs( he enjoys watching us

play) we do hand over hand he has no interest. He loves anything to do

with cars, motorcycles (his Dad takes him rides on his Harley he loves

this & long rides in cars but woul not look at the screen while this

game was on.

Also no motivation while doing anything academics. outside play we have

to VP & PP(physically prompt) to get him to make a basket he enjoys

swinging & jumping on the trampoline watching his movies while lying in

bed .Most of the time he is happy we have done ABA horse back

riding,tried PECS,tried to teach typing no interest have tried

augmentive device he just pushes picture we P words refuses to use

this now.

Please any replies would be appreciated.

Carole

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Maybe he does not know what to do also, some times I think my son has no

motivation for certain things, and I also realize that he sometimes does not

have a clue either. 

I know of some kids also that have done alot of ABA and get to the point that

they really do not do much without being prompted by someone.  If not done, they

really do not know what to do, nor are very motivated to do anything, maybe out

of the stress and pressure to always perform.

You can also look at RDI, it is done with the parent with a consultant,

www.rdiconnect.com.  The goal is to restore relationships, and get joy back out

of them.  They do sell a dvd intro that explains the therapy that may be worth

buying for more detailed information.  We do this therapy, and really enjoy and

so does my son. 

You can email me also with any more questions on this.

Angie

Angie

From: Kristy Nardini <knardini@...>

Subject: RE: How to motivate a child

Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 9:42 PM

Get and read " Engaging Autism " by Dr. Stanley Greenspan. He has two

websites, www.stanleygreenspa n.com and http://www.icdl. com/ that teach about

" Floortime " .

The first thing you may need to learn is that what you might think is

motivating may not be motivating for him. He may need baby steps, i.e.

riding on a motorcycle is very different from trying (or needing and having

the motor skills required) to operate one on a video game.

Kristy

From: groups (DOT) com [mailto:groups (DOT) com] On Behalf Of

chocolatiluv

Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 7:21 AM

groups (DOT) com

Subject: How to motivate a child

Does anyone out there have a problem with motivation, our grandson age

10 non verbal has no motivation.

We have bought any toy a child would dream for he has 2 new bikes .

For christmas we bought him a WII played Carrs( he enjoys watching us

play) we do hand over hand he has no interest. He loves anything to do

with cars, motorcycles (his Dad takes him rides on his Harley he loves

this & long rides in cars but woul not look at the screen while this

game was on.

Also no motivation while doing anything academics. outside play we have

to VP & PP(physically prompt) to get him to make a basket he enjoys

swinging & jumping on the trampoline watching his movies while lying in

bed .Most of the time he is happy we have done ABA horse back

riding,tried PECS,tried to teach typing no interest have tried

augmentive device he just pushes picture we P words refuses to use

this now.

Please any replies would be appreciated.

Carole

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I'm currently reading a book by Leonard Sax, MD, PhD, called " Boys Adrift: The

Five Factors Driving the Growing Epidemic of Unmotivated Boys and Underachieving

Young Men " . It's an interesting and easy to follow book. I recommend it to all

parents with boys.

I also read " Why Gender Matters " by the same author this month (both are at my

local library) and recommend it to all parents/teachers/adults who work with

kids.

Boys Adrift touches on most of the items/ideas in Why Gender Matters so if you

have a boy and only read one, read that.

Of course it is written about " typical kids " but our children are children

first, who happen to have medical issues, so a lot could be applied to them as

well.

- in Mobile, AL

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-Maxim Gorky (Aleksey Maksimovich Peshkov)

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How to motivate a child

Does anyone out there have a problem with motivation, our grandson age

10 non verbal has no motivation.

We have bought any toy a child would dream for he has 2 new bikes .

For christmas we bought him a WII played Carrs( he enjoys watching us

play) we do hand over hand he has no interest. He loves anything to do

with cars, motorcycles (his Dad takes him rides on his Harley he loves

this & long rides in cars but woul not look at the screen while this

game was on.

Also no motivation while doing anything academics. outside play we have

to VP & PP(physically prompt) to get him to make a basket he enjoys

swinging & jumping on the trampoline watching his movies while lying in

bed .Most of the time he is happy we have done ABA horse back

riding,tried PECS,tried to teach typing no interest have tried

augmentive device he just pushes picture we P words refuses to use

this now.

Please any replies would be appreciated.

Carole

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Well done Sherri you sound like a trooper Mom.(pardon the pun)

In a message dated 24/01/2009 17:34:05 GMT Standard Time, eszbi5@...

writes:

Three years ago when we adopted our daughter she sat, screamed, rocked and

stared at her hands. I never gave her any form of formal training so to speak

to get her to do things. I did however tell her to do things and when she

didn't listen I took her by the hand and showed her what to do. I was not

stingy with holding time, (when we first adopted her she did not like to be

touched, nor did I hesitate to put her in the corner for bad behaviors. I have

never removed her from a situation because of behaviors unless she was

disrupting others. In the beginning she was afraid of everything, cars,

stores, the

vacuum, clothes, you name it she had a problem with it. Instead of avoiding

things that made her uncomfortable I took the bull by the horn and I put her

into that situation every chance that I had. I can remember taking her into

Walmart and she was screaming. I took her in to the baby section and told

her that when she stopped

crying we would leave. I said it calmly over and over for nearly 3 hours.

Then she calmed down and we left. I am sure that the employees were happy to

see us leave. The next day we returned and when she cried I told her that

when she stopped crying we could finish our shopping and we would leave. That

day we were out for about 2 hours. The following day we returned and she

cried but it was only about 15 minutes. fast forward 3 years and I mention

shopping is putting on her shoes. I did this with everything. When

tights bothered her I changed her tights every hour until the change in texture

did not bother her. I also did a lot of holding her and telling her that

she was safe and that Mommy loves her. Today she climbs into my arms and goes

to sleep. She is able to follow 2-3 step commands. At nearly 7 years of age

she is doing age appropriate activities and we can take her anywhere and do

anything. We took her

to Disney last April and she had a blast even riding the rides. We are

looking forward to going back next year. BTW I have 4 children and my husband

is

in the military and in Iraq at the moment plus I work. What I did with

worked for her. No one could imagine what she was like.

Developmentally

she was 9 months and the only way to describe her was primal, when we

adopted her and she was really 3.5 years of age, I was scared to death when I

saw

how much work we had ahead of us. Maybe this will give some of you idea's of

things that may help with your children. Desensitizing has really helped our

quality of life but I do not discredit any other methods. Sheri

From: Kristy Nardini <knardini@roadrunneknardini@r

<mailto:knardini% 40roadrunner. com> >

Subject: RE: How to motivate a child

groups (DOT) com <mailto:% 40groups. com>

Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 9:42 PM

Get and read " Engaging Autism " by Dr. Stanley Greenspan. He has two

websites, www.stanleygreenspa n.com and _http://www.icdl._

(http://www.icdl./) com/ that teach

about

" Floortime " .

The first thing you may need to learn is that what you might think is

motivating may not be motivating for him. He may need baby steps, i.e.

riding on a motorcycle is very different from trying (or needing and having

the motor skills required) to operate one on a video game.

Kristy

From: groups (DOT) com [mailto:@ groups. com] On Behalf Of

chocolatiluv

Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 7:21 AM

groups (DOT) com

Subject: How to motivate a child

Does anyone out there have a problem with motivation, our grandson age

10 non verbal has no motivation.

We have bought any toy a child would dream for he has 2 new bikes .

For christmas we bought him a WII played Carrs( he enjoys watching us

play) we do hand over hand he has no interest. He loves anything to do

with cars, motorcycles (his Dad takes him rides on his Harley he loves

this & long rides in cars but woul not look at the screen while this

game was on.

Also no motivation while doing anything academics. outside play we have

to VP & PP(physically prompt) to get him to make a basket he enjoys

swinging & jumping on the trampoline watching his movies while lying in

bed .Most of the time he is happy we have done ABA horse back

riding,tried PECS,tried to teach typing no interest have tried

augmentive device he just pushes picture we P words refuses to use

this now.

Please any replies would be appreciated.

Carole

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We are doing RDI, too. Very similar to Floortime, although RDI is more

structured. Floortime is something that anyone can do, and can get started

with right away. I'm not sure if your RDI program is like ours, but my

husband and I are meeting with our RDI consultant once a week for 8 weeks

for parent training before my son will participate with us. Also, our

consultant told us the goal of RDI is for more communication, whereas

Floortime focuses on engagement and shared attention. Of course, I believe

both methods will lead to both better communication and more shared

attention. The original poster asked about motivation, and IMHO, I think

Floortime is a faster path to motivation than RDI.

Kristy

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of angie

huiz

Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 8:29 PM

Subject: RE: How to motivate a child

Maybe he does not know what to do also, some times I think my son has no

motivation for certain things, and I also realize that he sometimes does not

have a clue either.

I know of some kids also that have done alot of ABA and get to the point

that they really do not do much without being prompted by someone. If not

done, they really do not know what to do, nor are very motivated to do

anything, maybe out of the stress and pressure to always perform.

You can also look at RDI, it is done with the parent with a consultant,

www.rdiconnect.com. The goal is to restore relationships, and get joy back

out of them. They do sell a dvd intro that explains the therapy that may be

worth buying for more detailed information. We do this therapy, and really

enjoy and so does my son.

You can email me also with any more questions on this.

Angie

Angie

From: Kristy Nardini <knardini@...

<mailto:knardini%40roadrunner.com> >

Subject: RE: How to motivate a child

<mailto:%40>

Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 9:42 PM

Get and read " Engaging Autism " by Dr. Stanley Greenspan. He has two

websites, www.stanleygreenspa n.com and http://www.icdl. com/ that teach

about

" Floortime " .

The first thing you may need to learn is that what you might think is

motivating may not be motivating for him. He may need baby steps, i.e.

riding on a motorcycle is very different from trying (or needing and having

the motor skills required) to operate one on a video game.

Kristy

From: groups (DOT) com [mailto:groups (DOT) com] On Behalf Of

chocolatiluv

Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 7:21 AM

groups (DOT) com

Subject: How to motivate a child

Does anyone out there have a problem with motivation, our grandson age

10 non verbal has no motivation.

We have bought any toy a child would dream for he has 2 new bikes .

For christmas we bought him a WII played Carrs( he enjoys watching us

play) we do hand over hand he has no interest. He loves anything to do

with cars, motorcycles (his Dad takes him rides on his Harley he loves

this & long rides in cars but woul not look at the screen while this

game was on.

Also no motivation while doing anything academics. outside play we have

to VP & PP(physically prompt) to get him to make a basket he enjoys

swinging & jumping on the trampoline watching his movies while lying in

bed .Most of the time he is happy we have done ABA horse back

riding,tried PECS,tried to teach typing no interest have tried

augmentive device he just pushes picture we P words refuses to use

this now.

Please any replies would be appreciated.

Carole

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Three years ago when we adopted our daughter she sat, screamed, rocked and

stared at her hands.  I never gave her any form of formal training so to speak

to get her to do things.  I did however tell her to do things and when she

didn't listen I took her by the hand and showed her what to do.  I was not

stingy with holding time, (when we first adopted her she did not like to be

touched, nor did I hesitate to put her in the corner for bad behaviors.  I have

never removed her from a situation because of behaviors unless she was

disrupting others.  In the beginning she was afraid of everything, cars, stores,

the vacuum, clothes, you name it she had a problem with it.  Instead of avoiding

things that made her uncomfortable I took the bull by the horn and I put her

into that situation every chance that I had.  I can remember taking her into

Walmart and she was screaming.  I took her in to the baby section and told her

that when she stopped

crying we would leave.  I said it calmly over and over for nearly 3 hours. 

Then she calmed down and we left.  I am sure that the employees were happy to

see us leave.  The next day we returned and when she cried I told her that when

she stopped crying we could finish our shopping and we would leave.  That day we

were out for about 2 hours.  The following day we returned and she cried but it

was only about 15 minutes.  fast forward 3 years and I mention shopping

is putting on her shoes.  I did this with everything.  When tights bothered her

I changed her tights every hour until the change in texture did not bother her. 

I also did a lot of  holding her and telling her that she was safe and that

Mommy loves her.  Today she climbs into my arms and goes to sleep.  She is able

to follow 2-3 step commands.  At nearly 7 years of age she is doing age

appropriate activities and we can take her anywhere and do anything.  We took

her

to Disney last April and she had a blast even riding the rides.  We are looking

forward to going back next year.  BTW I have 4 children and my husband is in the

military and in Iraq at the moment plus I work.  What I did with worked

for her.  No one could imagine what she was like.  Developmentally she was 9

months and the only way to describe her was primal, when we adopted her and she

was really 3.5 years of age, I was scared to death when I saw how much work we

had ahead of us.  Maybe this will give some of you idea's of things that may

help with your children.  Desensitizing has really helped our quality of life

but I do not discredit any other methods.   Sheri     

From: Kristy Nardini <knardini@roadrunner .com

<mailto:knardini% 40roadrunner. com> >

Subject: RE: How to motivate a child

groups (DOT) com <mailto:% 40groups. com>

Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 9:42 PM

Get and read " Engaging Autism " by Dr. Stanley Greenspan. He has two

websites, www.stanleygreenspa n.com and http://www.icdl. com/ that teach

about

" Floortime " .

The first thing you may need to learn is that what you might think is

motivating may not be motivating for him. He may need baby steps, i.e.

riding on a motorcycle is very different from trying (or needing and having

the motor skills required) to operate one on a video game.

Kristy

From: groups (DOT) com [mailto:] On Behalf Of

chocolatiluv

Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 7:21 AM

groups (DOT) com

Subject: How to motivate a child

Does anyone out there have a problem with motivation, our grandson age

10 non verbal has no motivation.

We have bought any toy a child would dream for he has 2 new bikes .

For christmas we bought him a WII played Carrs( he enjoys watching us

play) we do hand over hand he has no interest. He loves anything to do

with cars, motorcycles (his Dad takes him rides on his Harley he loves

this & long rides in cars but woul not look at the screen while this

game was on.

Also no motivation while doing anything academics. outside play we have

to VP & PP(physically prompt) to get him to make a basket he enjoys

swinging & jumping on the trampoline watching his movies while lying in

bed .Most of the time he is happy we have done ABA horse back

riding,tried PECS,tried to teach typing no interest have tried

augmentive device he just pushes picture we P words refuses to use

this now.

Please any replies would be appreciated.

Carole

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Dr. Greenspan talks a lot about sensory issues and regulation issues in his

work (again, I highly recommend " Engaging Autism " ). It is essential for

helping most of our kiddos.

Kristy

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Sheri

Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 9:34 AM

Subject: RE: How to motivate a child

Three years ago when we adopted our daughter she sat, screamed, rocked and

stared at her hands. I never gave her any form of formal training so to

speak to get her to do things. I did however tell her to do things and when

she didn't listen I took her by the hand and showed her what to do. I was

not stingy with holding time, (when we first adopted her she did not like to

be touched, nor did I hesitate to put her in the corner for bad behaviors.

I have never removed her from a situation because of behaviors unless she

was disrupting others. In the beginning she was afraid of everything, cars,

stores, the vacuum, clothes, you name it she had a problem with it. Instead

of avoiding things that made her uncomfortable I took the bull by the horn

and I put her into that situation every chance that I had. I can remember

taking her into Walmart and she was screaming. I took her in to the baby

section and told her that when she stopped

crying we would leave. I said it calmly over and over for nearly 3 hours.

Then she calmed down and we left. I am sure that the employees were happy

to see us leave. The next day we returned and when she cried I told her

that when she stopped crying we could finish our shopping and we would

leave. That day we were out for about 2 hours. The following day we

returned and she cried but it was only about 15 minutes. fast forward 3

years and I mention shopping is putting on her shoes. I did this

with everything. When tights bothered her I changed her tights every hour

until the change in texture did not bother her. I also did a lot of

holding her and telling her that she was safe and that Mommy loves her.

Today she climbs into my arms and goes to sleep. She is able to follow 2-3

step commands. At nearly 7 years of age she is doing age appropriate

activities and we can take her anywhere and do anything. We took her

to Disney last April and she had a blast even riding the rides. We are

looking forward to going back next year. BTW I have 4 children and my

husband is in the military and in Iraq at the moment plus I work. What I

did with worked for her. No one could imagine what she was like.

Developmentally she was 9 months and the only way to describe her was

primal, when we adopted her and she was really 3.5 years of age, I was

scared to death when I saw how much work we had ahead of us. Maybe this

will give some of you idea's of things that may help with your children.

Desensitizing has really helped our quality of life but I do not discredit

any other methods. Sheri

From: Kristy Nardini <knardini@roadrunner .com

<mailto:knardini% 40roadrunner. com> >

Subject: RE: How to motivate a child

groups (DOT) com <mailto:% 40groups. com>

Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 9:42 PM

Get and read " Engaging Autism " by Dr. Stanley Greenspan. He has two

websites, www.stanleygreenspa n.com and http://www.icdl. com/ that teach

about

" Floortime " .

The first thing you may need to learn is that what you might think is

motivating may not be motivating for him. He may need baby steps, i.e.

riding on a motorcycle is very different from trying (or needing and having

the motor skills required) to operate one on a video game.

Kristy

From: groups (DOT) com [mailto:] On Behalf Of

chocolatiluv

Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 7:21 AM

groups (DOT) com

Subject: How to motivate a child

Does anyone out there have a problem with motivation, our grandson age

10 non verbal has no motivation.

We have bought any toy a child would dream for he has 2 new bikes .

For christmas we bought him a WII played Carrs( he enjoys watching us

play) we do hand over hand he has no interest. He loves anything to do

with cars, motorcycles (his Dad takes him rides on his Harley he loves

this & long rides in cars but woul not look at the screen while this

game was on.

Also no motivation while doing anything academics. outside play we have

to VP & PP(physically prompt) to get him to make a basket he enjoys

swinging & jumping on the trampoline watching his movies while lying in

bed .Most of the time he is happy we have done ABA horse back

riding,tried PECS,tried to teach typing no interest have tried

augmentive device he just pushes picture we P words refuses to use

this now.

Please any replies would be appreciated.

Carole

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Floortime is aabsolutely the best thing I have ever done for my kid.

Even above diet etc. My son has some theory of mind, I don't know if

he would if it wasn't for Greenspan. His biggest problems now are

being able to stop what he is thinking of(hyperfocus). #years ago I

could have walk in the room on fire and he would not have noticed.

His body is still somewhat of a mess, but is enganged and calls

friends on the phone to see if they want to come over. You can

actually have appt with him or Serena weider. It's worth it.

- In , " Kristy Nardini " <knardini@...> wrote:

>

> Dr. Greenspan talks a lot about sensory issues and regulation

issues in his

> work (again, I highly recommend " Engaging Autism " ). It is essential

for

> helping most of our kiddos.

>

>

>

> Kristy

>

>

>

> From: [mailto: ] On Behalf

Of Sheri

> Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 9:34 AM

>

> Subject: RE: How to motivate a child

>

>

>

> Three years ago when we adopted our daughter she sat, screamed,

rocked and

> stared at her hands. I never gave her any form of formal training

so to

> speak to get her to do things. I did however tell her to do things

and when

> she didn't listen I took her by the hand and showed her what to

do. I was

> not stingy with holding time, (when we first adopted her she did

not like to

> be touched, nor did I hesitate to put her in the corner for bad

behaviors.

> I have never removed her from a situation because of behaviors

unless she

> was disrupting others. In the beginning she was afraid of

everything, cars,

> stores, the vacuum, clothes, you name it she had a problem with

it. Instead

> of avoiding things that made her uncomfortable I took the bull by

the horn

> and I put her into that situation every chance that I had. I can

remember

> taking her into Walmart and she was screaming. I took her in to

the baby

> section and told her that when she stopped

> crying we would leave. I said it calmly over and over for nearly 3

hours.

> Then she calmed down and we left. I am sure that the employees

were happy

> to see us leave. The next day we returned and when she cried I

told her

> that when she stopped crying we could finish our shopping and we

would

> leave. That day we were out for about 2 hours. The following day

we

> returned and she cried but it was only about 15 minutes. fast

forward 3

> years and I mention shopping is putting on her shoes. I did

this

> with everything. When tights bothered her I changed her tights

every hour

> until the change in texture did not bother her. I also did a lot of

> holding her and telling her that she was safe and that Mommy loves

her.

> Today she climbs into my arms and goes to sleep. She is able to

follow 2-3

> step commands. At nearly 7 years of age she is doing age

appropriate

> activities and we can take her anywhere and do anything. We took

her

> to Disney last April and she had a blast even riding the rides. We

are

> looking forward to going back next year. BTW I have 4 children and

my

> husband is in the military and in Iraq at the moment plus I work.

What I

> did with worked for her. No one could imagine what she was

like.

> Developmentally she was 9 months and the only way to describe her

was

> primal, when we adopted her and she was really 3.5 years of age, I

was

> scared to death when I saw how much work we had ahead of us. Maybe

this

> will give some of you idea's of things that may help with your

children.

> Desensitizing has really helped our quality of life but I do not

discredit

> any other methods. Sheri

>

>

>

> From: Kristy Nardini <knardini@roadrunner .com

> <mailto:knardini% 40roadrunner. com> >

> Subject: RE: How to motivate a child

> groups (DOT) com <mailto:% 40groups. com>

> Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 9:42 PM

>

> Get and read " Engaging Autism " by Dr. Stanley Greenspan. He has two

> websites, www.stanleygreenspa n.com and http://www.icdl. com/ that

teach

> about

> " Floortime " .

>

> The first thing you may need to learn is that what you might think

is

> motivating may not be motivating for him. He may need baby steps,

i.e.

> riding on a motorcycle is very different from trying (or needing

and having

> the motor skills required) to operate one on a video game.

>

> Kristy

>

> From: groups (DOT) com [mailto:] On

Behalf Of

> chocolatiluv

> Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 7:21 AM

> groups (DOT) com

> Subject: How to motivate a child

>

> Does anyone out there have a problem with motivation, our grandson

age

> 10 non verbal has no motivation.

> We have bought any toy a child would dream for he has 2 new bikes .

> For christmas we bought him a WII played Carrs( he enjoys watching

us

> play) we do hand over hand he has no interest. He loves anything to

do

> with cars, motorcycles (his Dad takes him rides on his Harley he

loves

> this & long rides in cars but woul not look at the screen while

this

> game was on.

> Also no motivation while doing anything academics. outside play we

have

> to VP & PP(physically prompt) to get him to make a basket he enjoys

> swinging & jumping on the trampoline watching his movies while

lying in

> bed .Most of the time he is happy we have done ABA horse back

> riding,tried PECS,tried to teach typing no interest have tried

> augmentive device he just pushes picture we P words refuses to use

> this now.

> Please any replies would be appreciated.

> Carole

>

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Thanks for the feedback on Floortime, it is something I have meant to check out,

but of course can only do so many things at one time.  I have been looking also

at something to increase engagement, my son is usually motivated but has a hard

time staying with me in an attention sort of way.  So thanks for the tip.  Did

you find that floortime also really helped with play skills?  The aba method of

this for my son did not help his play skills at all.  How about social

interaction with other kids?  Do you use a consultant for this also? 

 

Our RDI consultant also talks about engagement, and it is something we are

working towards but will come a little later.  We also do alot of communication

things and it is amazing what my high functioning son does not know about it,

even as simple as head nodding.  She really works out of the motivation for

things is also the other person and starts off with simple relationship things

for this.

>

> From: Kristy Nardini <knardini@roadrunne r .com

> <mailto:knardini% 40roadrunner. com> >

> Subject: RE: How to motivate a child

> groups (DOT) com <mailto:% 40groups. com>

> Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 9:42 PM

>

> Get and read " Engaging Autism " by Dr. Stanley Greenspan. He has two

> websites, www.stanleygreenspa n.com and http://www.icdl. com/ that

teach

> about

> " Floortime " .

>

> The first thing you may need to learn is that what you might think

is

> motivating may not be motivating for him. He may need baby steps,

i.e.

> riding on a motorcycle is very different from trying (or needing

and having

> the motor skills required) to operate one on a video game.

>

> Kristy

>

> From: groups (DOT) com [mailto:] On

Behalf Of

> chocolatiluv

> Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 7:21 AM

> groups (DOT) com

> Subject: How to motivate a child

>

> Does anyone out there have a problem with motivation, our grandson

age

> 10 non verbal has no motivation.

> We have bought any toy a child would dream for he has 2 new bikes .

> For christmas we bought him a WII played Carrs( he enjoys watching

us

> play) we do hand over hand he has no interest. He loves anything to

do

> with cars, motorcycles (his Dad takes him rides on his Harley he

loves

> this & long rides in cars but woul not look at the screen while

this

> game was on.

> Also no motivation while doing anything academics. outside play we

have

> to VP & PP(physically prompt) to get him to make a basket he enjoys

> swinging & jumping on the trampoline watching his movies while

lying in

> bed .Most of the time he is happy we have done ABA horse back

> riding,tried PECS,tried to teach typing no interest have tried

> augmentive device he just pushes picture we P words refuses to use

> this now.

> Please any replies would be appreciated.

> Carole

>

>

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I did use someone local for this and I also managed to get some

hours through our school district when he was in pre-school. This

did help his pretend play skills tremendously and flexibilty. This

is not to say he does not get these obsessive ideas in his play. He

is very creative, to a point that it gets in his way. In a floortime

world, nothing should be used for what it is, meaning even a robot

can have shy moments or be scared of some disaster. There needs to

be a why or how come to alot of actions and the feelings behind thier

actions. This helps the child become a poet of his own feelings.

This becomes very hard when this happens, but very good for the

child. I can't say that I love when my kid cries to me about his

challenges, but I helps us to understand specifically what they are

now. My feeling is that every method of therapy is very helpful and

every method can lack something, and in time it starts to become more

of the in the moment thing. We are now at a point where we have

intective play dates, and they do not need faciltion for him to stay

engaged, he does however sometimes have trouble following their idea

if he has his own. However, he will do alot of things in his power

to keep that child following him. Definitely a start. We are

getting there. What I have found also, with a play date anyway, I

need to let them play with something they are both really interested

in, this is not always easy. If my son has a lot more interest in

something more than his friend, this will be hard for him to follow

the other child when that child gets bored. Now on the flip side, if

you find soomething that neither of them really like, they will get

bored of it together and start just being goofy together becasue they

are both trying to get out of the situation. Next thing you know,

they are making suggestions together where they can go to hide from

me. Anyway just some food for though, I have looked into RDI also.

I think it seems wonderful. Howver, I don't think it allows for

playdates(dyads) as quickly as it should. This is just my opinion,

the more play dates the better. It's ok even if kids sit on the

couch together and watch a movie. Maybe not that interactive, but in

time this leads to them stealing the cover from eachother, etc. We

have done many of the non-verbal type things that are in the RDI boo,

but Greenspan pushes that too. This is such a crucial piece.

> >

> > From: Kristy Nardini <knardini@roadrunne r .com

> > <mailto:knardini% 40roadrunner. com> >

> > Subject: RE: How to motivate a child

> > groups (DOT) com <mailto:% 40groups. com>

> > Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 9:42 PM

> >

> > Get and read " Engaging Autism " by Dr. Stanley Greenspan. He has

two

> > websites, www.stanleygreenspa n.com and http://www.icdl. com/

that

> teach

> > about

> > " Floortime " .

> >

> > The first thing you may need to learn is that what you might

think

> is

> > motivating may not be motivating for him. He may need baby steps,

> i.e.

> > riding on a motorcycle is very different from trying (or needing

> and having

> > the motor skills required) to operate one on a video game.

> >

> > Kristy

> >

> > From: groups (DOT) com [mailto:] On

> Behalf Of

> > chocolatiluv

> > Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 7:21 AM

> > groups (DOT) com

> > Subject: How to motivate a child

> >

> > Does anyone out there have a problem with motivation, our

grandson

> age

> > 10 non verbal has no motivation.

> > We have bought any toy a child would dream for he has 2 new

bikes .

> > For christmas we bought him a WII played Carrs( he enjoys

watching

> us

> > play) we do hand over hand he has no interest. He loves anything

to

> do

> > with cars, motorcycles (his Dad takes him rides on his Harley he

> loves

> > this & long rides in cars but woul not look at the screen while

> this

> > game was on.

> > Also no motivation while doing anything academics. outside play

we

> have

> > to VP & PP(physically prompt) to get him to make a basket he

enjoys

> > swinging & jumping on the trampoline watching his movies while

> lying in

> > bed .Most of the time he is happy we have done ABA horse back

> > riding,tried PECS,tried to teach typing no interest have tried

> > augmentive device he just pushes picture we P words refuses to

use

> > this now.

> > Please any replies would be appreciated.

> > Carole

> >

> >

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That took a lot of effort and guts! It must've been emotionally draining, but

emotionally satisfying when you look at your daughter now.

All the best,

Robyn

>

> From: Kristy Nardini <knardini@roadrunneknardini@r

> <mailto:knardini% 40roadrunner. com> >

> Subject: RE: How to motivate a child

> groups (DOT) com <mailto:% 40groups.

> com>

> Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 9:42 PM

>

> Get and read " Engaging Autism " by Dr. Stanley

> Greenspan. He has two

> websites, www.stanleygreenspa n.com and _http://www.icdl._

> (http://www.icdl./) com/ that teach

> about

> " Floortime " .

>

> The first thing you may need to learn is that what you

> might think is

> motivating may not be motivating for him. He may need baby

> steps, i.e.

> riding on a motorcycle is very different from trying (or

> needing and having

> the motor skills required) to operate one on a video game.

>

> Kristy

>

> From: groups (DOT) com [mailto:@ groups.

> com] On Behalf Of

> chocolatiluv

> Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 7:21 AM

> groups (DOT) com

> Subject: How to motivate a child

>

> Does anyone out there have a problem with motivation, our

> grandson age

> 10 non verbal has no motivation.

> We have bought any toy a child would dream for he has 2

> new bikes .

> For christmas we bought him a WII played Carrs( he enjoys

> watching us

> play) we do hand over hand he has no interest. He loves

> anything to do

> with cars, motorcycles (his Dad takes him rides on his

> Harley he loves

> this & long rides in cars but woul not look at the

> screen while this

> game was on.

> Also no motivation while doing anything academics. outside

> play we have

> to VP & PP(physically prompt) to get him to make a

> basket he enjoys

> swinging & jumping on the trampoline watching his

> movies while lying in

> bed .Most of the time he is happy we have done ABA horse

> back

> riding,tried PECS,tried to teach typing no interest have

> tried

> augmentive device he just pushes picture we P words

> refuses to use

> this now.

> Please any replies would be appreciated.

> Carole

>

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No one said that it was easy.  LOL  It was probably the most difficult thing

that I have ever gone though.  I should say that our family has ever gone

though.  Trust me when I tell you our family was tested.  Today when I see her

doing things that I didn't think would be possible and I get notes home from her

teacher telling me that knows all of her sight words and she is able to

follow along in a level 1 book, that she is following directions, and too many

other things to mention, I realize that all of what we did was worth it.  Today

is a good girl and she is pleasant to be around. 

In two weeks my husband is coming home from Iraq for his 2 weeks R & R picking

him up and going to Florida with the family.  Instead of dreading how

will behave I am looking forward to seeing her enjoy herself.  She loved Disney

last year and now she is a year better.   Everything we went through was so

worth it.  Sheri

>

> From: Kristy Nardini <knardini@roadrunne knardini@ r

> <mailto:knardini% 40roadrunner. com> >

> Subject: RE: How to motivate a child

> groups (DOT) com <mailto:% 40groups.

> com>

> Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 9:42 PM

>

> Get and read " Engaging Autism " by Dr. Stanley

> Greenspan. He has two

> websites, www.stanleygreenspa n.com and _http://www.icdl. _

> (http://www.icdl. /) com/ that teach

> about

> " Floortime " .

>

> The first thing you may need to learn is that what you

> might think is

> motivating may not be motivating for him. He may need baby

> steps, i.e.

> riding on a motorcycle is very different from trying (or

> needing and having

> the motor skills required) to operate one on a video game.

>

> Kristy

>

> From: groups (DOT) com [mailto:@ groups.

> com] On Behalf Of

> chocolatiluv

> Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 7:21 AM

> groups (DOT) com

> Subject: How to motivate a child

>

> Does anyone out there have a problem with motivation, our

> grandson age

> 10 non verbal has no motivation.

> We have bought any toy a child would dream for he has 2

> new bikes .

> For christmas we bought him a WII played Carrs( he enjoys

> watching us

> play) we do hand over hand he has no interest. He loves

> anything to do

> with cars, motorcycles (his Dad takes him rides on his

> Harley he loves

> this & long rides in cars but woul not look at the

> screen while this

> game was on.

> Also no motivation while doing anything academics. outside

> play we have

> to VP & PP(physically prompt) to get him to make a

> basket he enjoys

> swinging & jumping on the trampoline watching his

> movies while lying in

> bed .Most of the time he is happy we have done ABA horse

> back

> riding,tried PECS,tried to teach typing no interest have

> tried

> augmentive device he just pushes picture we P words

> refuses to use

> this now.

> Please any replies would be appreciated.

> Carole

>

>

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That is so encouraging, Sheri. Thank you for sharing.

I struggle today with my daughter and it helps to

know things will get better in the end.

-Jennie

--- Sheri <eszbi5@...> wrote:

> No one said that it was easy.  LOL  It was probably

> the most difficult thing that I have ever gone

> though.  I should say that our family has ever gone

> though.  Trust me when I tell you our family was

> tested.  Today when I see her doing things that I

> didn't think would be possible and I get notes home

> from her teacher telling me that knows all of

> her sight words and she is able to follow along in a

> level 1 book, that she is following directions, and

> too many other things to mention, I realize that all

> of what we did was worth it.  Today is a good

> girl and she is pleasant to be around. 

> In two weeks my husband is coming home from Iraq for

> his 2 weeks R & R picking him up and going to

> Florida with the family.  Instead of dreading how

> will behave I am looking forward to seeing

> her enjoy herself.  She loved Disney last year and

> now she is a year better.   Everything we went

> through was so worth it.  Sheri

>

>

> >

> > From: Kristy Nardini <_knardini@roadrunn erknar_

> > (mailto:knardini@roadrunner .com) >

> > Subject: RE: How to motivate a child

> > _groups (DOT) NID_

> (mailto:groups (DOT) com)

> > Date: Saturday, January 24, 2009, 11:15 AM

> >

> > We are doing RDI, too. Very similar to Floortime,

> although

> > RDI is more

> > structured. Floortime is something that anyone can

> do, and

> > can get started

> > with right away. I'm not sure if your RDI program

> is

> > like ours, but my

> > husband and I are meeting with our RDI consultant

> once a

> > week for 8 weeks

> > for parent training before my son will participate

> with

> > us. Also, our

> > consultant told us the goal of RDI is for more

> > communication, whereas

> > Floortime focuses on engagement and shared

> attention. Of

> > course, I believe

> > both methods will lead to both better

> communication and

> > more shared

> > attention. The original poster asked about

> motivation, and

> > IMHO, I think

> > Floortime is a faster path to motivation than RDI.

>

> >

>

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Congratulations to you and your family. Not only did you succeed with your

daughter, you did it under the most difficult of circumstances . . . your

husband's deployment. Please thank your husband for his service and thank you to

you and your children for your sacrifice.

All the best,

Robyn

> >

> > From: Kristy Nardini <knardini@roadrunne knardini@

> r

> > <mailto:knardini% 40roadrunner. com> >

> > Subject: RE: How to motivate a child

> > groups (DOT) com <mailto:%

> 40groups.

> > com>

> > Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 9:42 PM

> >

> > Get and read " Engaging Autism " by Dr.

> Stanley

> > Greenspan. He has two

> > websites, www.stanleygreenspa n.com and

> _http://www.icdl. _

> > (http://www.icdl. /) com/ that teach

> > about

> > " Floortime " .

> >

> > The first thing you may need to learn is that what you

> > might think is

> > motivating may not be motivating for him. He may need

> baby

> > steps, i.e.

> > riding on a motorcycle is very different from trying

> (or

> > needing and having

> > the motor skills required) to operate one on a video

> game.

> >

> > Kristy

> >

> > From: groups (DOT) com [mailto:@ groups.

> > com] On Behalf Of

> > chocolatiluv

> > Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 7:21 AM

> > groups (DOT) com

> > Subject: How to motivate a child

> >

> > Does anyone out there have a problem with motivation,

> our

> > grandson age

> > 10 non verbal has no motivation.

> > We have bought any toy a child would dream for he has

> 2

> > new bikes .

> > For christmas we bought him a WII played Carrs( he

> enjoys

> > watching us

> > play) we do hand over hand he has no interest. He

> loves

> > anything to do

> > with cars, motorcycles (his Dad takes him rides on his

> > Harley he loves

> > this & long rides in cars but woul not look at the

> > screen while this

> > game was on.

> > Also no motivation while doing anything academics.

> outside

> > play we have

> > to VP & PP(physically prompt) to get him to make a

> > basket he enjoys

> > swinging & jumping on the trampoline watching his

> > movies while lying in

> > bed .Most of the time he is happy we have done ABA

> horse

> > back

> > riding,tried PECS,tried to teach typing no interest

> have

> > tried

> > augmentive device he just pushes picture we P words

> > refuses to use

> > this now.

> > Please any replies would be appreciated.

> > Carole

> >

> >

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We did the desensitizing thing, too, only a much differently. We started by

getting him comfortable with a few people and then very slowly branched out

into the " real world " . We started with quieter, less crowded places, and

very slowly branched to more sensory overloading places. Places like Walmart

were the last places we ventured to because they're even sensorily disordering

for me. Each time, we'd prepare him for the experience, watch for signs of

overload and then back off, going a bit further each time. Fairly soon, he

looked forward to the outings and tried his best to manage his senses so he

could handle it better.

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