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Hi

I was hoping someone would have some advice. My three year old daughter has what

we call " spells " . Not quite a seizure but a few moments that she will stiffen up

and zone out for a few seconds, sometimes falling. This happens most often after

waking. We had her on kepra and the spells became worse not to mention the other

horrible side effects. She has other dosorders as a result of menengetis herpes

encephalitis she was sick from last year. Anybody that might have suggestions

would be grreatly appreciated.

Thank You

Stacey

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Good connection!  HPA dysregulation, orthostatic intolerance ... those are a

couple of things to google to see if they sound like they could be

connected. The stiffening, though... that leads me back to possible seizures,

BUT I'll look further into those pathologies that trigger the syncope-like

episodes.  You can also have the same over-dilation in the very large vein in

your abdomen (name?) - I find that when I'm having my 'episodes', clenching my

stomach muscles very tightly (pulling into the spine) will give almost immediate

relief.  I'm not sure how you would suggest that to a 3yr old, other than laying

together and playing 'tummy games' to teach her how to suck it in...

 

BTW to Stacey - if you're new to , you might not be aware of the similarity

of autism to Chronic Fatigue Syndrome...?   And that there are several other

neuro-immune problems that all sortof fall into the same or similar pathology. 

And CFIDS is very often triggered by significant viral infections (especially

Herpes viruses like HSV1 & HSV2, HHV6, EBV and CMV)... did you know which virus

was involved w/the encephalitis?  I had mono encephalitis when I was 12 - a year

after my first mono episode which did trigger CFIDS then, and I had a LOT of

neurological problems from then on, from toe-walking, loss of eye contact and

socialization, sensory problems, major cognitive problems, and so on and so on. 

 

If these are related to the orthostatic intolerance that Angie suggested, one of

the best things that has helped my youngest son was the trampoline.  But before

you go there, there is testing (tilt tables and such), as well as monitoring

blood pressure at rest and then after standing, that could help evaluate whether

or not this may be going on - although false negatives could be there too.

 

Still, absence seizures are a common in too (and not often found on

EEGs), but adults w/CFIDS have spells where we tend to not always be responsive

due to problems with auditory processing and overall brain mud ... my DH used to

think I was ignoring him, whereas I'd hear him and just not be able to respond

at first... (I just didn't stiffen...)

 

I assume your child has been worked up by a neurologist for these, but have you

recorded several episodes for them to view?  We had a child at my work that was

having seizures that couldn't be identified until they took video of them.

 

HTH-

 

 

 

 

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Date: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 4:05 PM

Hi

I was hoping someone would have some advice. My three year old daughter has what

we call " spells " . Not quite a seizure but a few moments that she will stiffen up

and zone out for a few seconds, sometimes falling. This happens most often after

waking. We had her on kepra and the spells became worse not to mention the other

horrible side effects. She has other dosorders as a result of menengetis herpes

encephalitis she was sick from last year. Anybody that might have suggestions

would be grreatly appreciated.

Thank You

Stacey

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If you do get a trampoline, I have been told from someone that does our HANDLE

sensory exercises, that you have to be careful what kind of trampoline you get

for an asd kid.  

 

A regular cheap one does not have the right amount of re-coil and springs and

can make some vestibluar issues worse for these kids, or just feed the sensory

issues from the wrong way.  I know one of the good ones that works for the child

is called REBOUND.  It does cost about $200 or so, but I think also comes with a

lifetime warrenty. 

Angie  

From: Granny <granny.lucy@ sbcglobal. net>

Subject: seizures

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Date: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 4:05 PM

Hi

I was hoping someone would have some advice. My three year old daughter has what

we call " spells " . Not quite a seizure but a few moments that she will stiffen up

and zone out for a few seconds, sometimes falling. This happens most often after

waking. We had her on kepra and the spells became worse not to mention the other

horrible side effects. She has other dosorders as a result of menengetis herpes

encephalitis she was sick from last year. Anybody that might have suggestions

would be grreatly appreciated.

Thank You

Stacey

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Hi Stacey -

I'm sorry I never got back to you on your question.  You cannot likely get

antivirals locally  - you would have to see a doctor experienced in using them. 

Most local doctors would not.  I had a kid with well documented progress on

antivirals, yet educated with and loaded with research, no doctor was

willing to precribe them.  A lot of DAN! doctors are starting to use them now,

too, but they are really under-dosing and using them for too short of a period. 

You could see Dr Bruce in Port Aransas TX (also continues his clinic in

upstate NY) or see Dr Goldberg in Tarzana CA (outside LA). 

It has been worth it to me to travel and do phone consults.  Ultimately many

people find seeing them is cheaper in the long run than doing DAN, too, because

meds and labs are covered by insurance.  Phone consults are not.  (I see Dr

now because he can treat adults too, and because he spreads out consults

longer and is therefore cheaper, and my kids are 'easy' and just need the basic

protocol.  I trust him pretty much as much as Dr Goldberg, although if I had a

kid with complex immune issues and really serious seizures, I would go to

Goldberg.)

HTH-

________________________________

From: Lucy Hardage <granny.lucy@...>

Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 5:25:33 PM

Subject: Re: seizures

Hi ,

 

Can you tell me where to get the antivirals for my daughter. I talked to her

 new doctor about them and he didn't seem to know anything. On the other hand,

the more I research it, my husband and I can't believe we were never told of the

possible benefit. If you could give me some tips on how to buy them that would

be great.

 

Stacey

seizures

Hi

I was hoping someone would have some advice. My three year old daughter has what

we call " spells " . Not quite a seizure but a few moments that she will stiffen up

and zone out for a few seconds, sometimes falling. This happens most often after

waking. We had her on kepra and the spells became worse not to mention the other

horrible side effects. She has other dosorders as a result of menengetis herpes

encephalitis she was sick from last year. Anybody that might have suggestions

would be grreatly appreciated.

Thank You

Stacey

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To illustrate 's point regarding under dosing of antivirals, my regular

doc (whom I love) prescribed 125mg of Famvir per day for my EBV for three

months. Dr. G treats me for both HHV 6 and EBV and I now take 1,500 mg per day

of Famvir.

Good luck.

Robyn

> From: <thecolemans4@...>

> Subject: Re: seizures

>

> Date: Sunday, November 30, 2008, 10:57 AM

> Hi Stacey -

> I'm sorry I never got back to you on your question. 

> You cannot likely get antivirals locally  - you would have

> to see a doctor experienced in using them.  Most local

> doctors would not.  I had a kid with well documented

> progress on antivirals, yet educated with and loaded

> with research, no doctor was willing to precribe them.  A

> lot of DAN! doctors are starting to use them now, too, but

> they are really under-dosing and using them for too short of

> a period.  You could see Dr Bruce in Port Aransas

> TX (also continues his clinic in upstate NY) or see Dr

> Goldberg in Tarzana CA (outside LA). 

> It has been worth it to me to travel and do phone

> consults.  Ultimately many people find seeing them is

> cheaper in the long run than doing DAN, too, because meds

> and labs are covered by insurance.  Phone consults are

> not.  (I see Dr now because he can treat adults

> too, and because he spreads out consults longer and is

> therefore cheaper, and my kids are 'easy' and just

> need the basic protocol.  I trust him pretty much as much

> as Dr Goldberg, although if I had a kid with complex immune

> issues and really serious seizures, I would go to Goldberg.)

> HTH-

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Lucy Hardage <granny.lucy@...>

>

> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 5:25:33 PM

> Subject: Re: seizures

>

>

> Hi ,

>  

> Can you tell me where to get the antivirals for my

> daughter. I talked to her  new doctor about them and he

> didn't seem to know anything. On the other hand, the

> more I research it, my husband and I can't believe we

> were never told of the possible benefit. If you could give

> me some tips on how to buy them that would be great.

>  

> Stacey

>

> seizures

>

> Hi

>

> I was hoping someone would have some advice. My three year

> old daughter has what we call " spells " . Not quite

> a seizure but a few moments that she will stiffen up and

> zone out for a few seconds, sometimes falling. This happens

> most often after waking. We had her on kepra and the spells

> became worse not to mention the other horrible side effects.

> She has other dosorders as a result of menengetis herpes

> encephalitis she was sick from last year. Anybody that might

> have suggestions would be grreatly appreciated.

>

> Thank You

>

> Stacey

>

>

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