Re: : OT: Lefenuron update

March 6, 2012

Unfortunately for me, Im rather out of options.I have thrush which is also on my lips and they crack and peel constantly.I have kept gaining more and more weight and Ive been taking most of the natural remedies and available pharmaceuticals for yeast.Having been a human guinea pig for the last 9 years when it comes to lyme, and trying a lot of things,some with and some without success, I feel like trying this is about one of the few options i have left to me Has anyone tried the Byron White A FNG or the Jennergan formulas for lyme and candida?since apparently the lukefuron is only toxic to zooplankton and a few other tiny organisms it seems to be worthy as something to try.Its been shown to be non toxic in animals.If it works and knocks back my yeast to a manageble level then it will be worth it for me.There have been no human trials of this, only

animals.But then most meds are tested on animals before they are tested on humans and well Ive gotta do something.Might as well be a guinea pig here tooI will let you know when or if I can see a differencejan Re: : OT: Lefenuron update Posted by:

"Barbara Pierce" gmaoceans@... gmaoceans Date: Mon Mar 5, 2012 12:47 pm ((PST))To anybody,i didn't know anything about lufenuron so looked it up on wikipedia andhere is what it said. this is confusing to me. is this stuff ok for us totake. i have always been scared to give my animals flea meds and now weare taking it. it does show toxicity to water zooplankton. can anyone helpme understand the safety of this stuff????"Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything

really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with the truth ,and to dare to love completely." -R. Buckminster Fuller

March 6, 2012

If it works for monkey it might works for me

according to the website we do nto use chitin so it si not toxic

kindly Marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Monday, March 5, 2012 3:47 PMSubject: Re: Re: : OT: Lefenuron update

To anybody,

i didn't know anything about lufenuron so looked it up on wikipedia and here is what it said. this is confusing to me. is this stuff ok for us to take. i have always been scared to give my animals flea meds and now we are taking it. it does show toxicity to water zooplankton. can anyone help me understand the safety of this stuff????

Lufenuron is the active ingredient in the veterinary flea control medication Program, and one of the active ingredients in the veterinary flea control,heartworm prevention,

and anthelmintic medicine milbemycin oxime/lufenuron (trade names Program plus, Sentinel Flavor Tabs).

Lufenuron is stored in the animal's body fat and transferred to adult fleas through their bite. Adult fleas transfer it to their eggs by its presence in the mother flea's blood, or by the larva feeding on pre-digested blood.

Lufenuron, a benzoylurea pesticide, inhibits the production of chitin in larval fleas. Without chitin, a larval flea will never develop an exoskeleton. Attacking the ability to create chitin may make lufenuron a remedy against fungal infections, such as ringworm (a dermatophyte infection and not a worm at all).

It has no known toxic effects at any dosage on humans or other animals in the environment that do not depend on chitin, though the orally-administered pills can sometimes cause an upset stomach with acid

reflux.

Lufenuron is also sold as a crop protection product (pesticide) by Syngenta for use against lepidoptera, eriophid mites, and Western flower thrips; it has approval in a number of countries for use on a variety of crops, including soybeans and maize.

Lufenuron is thought to be an effective anti-fungal in plants. It is safe because Lufenuron is biochemically inert to mammals. Lufenuron is not broken down by the liver or kidneys. Lufenuron's antifungal property may be due to its inhibiting the synthesis of chitin, which makes up roughly 33% of the typical fungal cell wall.

Lufenuron was included in a biocide ban proposed by the Swedish Chemicals Agency because it is toxic to fresh water zooplankton [1] and approved by the European Parliament on January 13, 2009.[2]

thanks,

barbara

I have just ordered the lufenuron for myself to see if itwill be helpful.Im also looking for a new place to live ( have a possibility Im looking at tonight) because I believe there is mold in this house which Im sure is not helping.

Ive ordered Lactbicillus CG which is the best probiotic for candida supposedly and have ordered oregano oil capsules.

Ive had candida infections for so long that Im hoping this regimen will work.

You are supposed to take it over three days and its supposed to work for two or three weeks,So I will try it, see if it knocks it down and then do another course of it because I dont think any one dose of anything will get it knocked down.

Im also on the very strict part of the anti-candida diet right now and have lost a few pounds.I suspect that once the candida is lowered more weight will come off of me, which is necessary as Ive gained 35 pounds with having lyme and candida

jan

Re: : OT: Lefenuron update (was Stress of Aging Parents) Posted by: "khaya.davidson" khaya-davidson@... khaya.davidson Date: Sun Mar 4, 2012 8:03 pm ((PST))Hi , Do you find rife to be effective on candida? And will you use rife to treat H.pylori? Please keep us posted on this. Thanks, Khaya>> Hi Khaya,> > I did a dose of the Lufenuron. I am not sure if it eliminated the Candida or not. I really need to do another dose, just to make sure. I have done so many things to help the Candida issues that I don't know what was the most helpful. I do seem to have an Hpylori flair up now, which might be caused by reducing the Candida load, but I don't know.> > "Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with the truth ,and to dare to love completely." -R. Buckminster Fuller

March 6, 2012

Hi Damarise,

I do nto understand : do we have to take it often or one or two cycle ?

KIndly Marie

To: lyme_and_rife Sent: Monday, March 5, 2012 10:40 PMSubject: RE: Re: : OT: Lefenuron update

HiI have taken it, it seems safe, but is it a product you have to take often or just one or two cycles of it.Damarise

To: Lyme_and_Rife From: khaya-davidson@...Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 21:33:07 +0000Subject: Re: : OT: Lefenuron update

Jodie, that sounds like good common sense to me! I wonder how long lefenuron has been marketed to humans? I would like it to have some history of safe and effective use before I try it. Khaya> > > >> > > > Hi Khaya,> > > >> > > > I did a dose of the Lufenuron. I am not sure if it eliminated the> > > Candida or not. I really need to do another dose, just to make sure. I> > > have done so many things to help the Candida issues that I don't know what> > > was the most helpful. I do seem to have an Hpylori flair up now, which> > > might be caused by

reducing the Candida load, but I don't know.> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >> > > "Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything> > > really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with the truth> > > ,and to dare to love completely." -R. Buckminster Fuller> > >> > > > > >> >>

March 6, 2012

Hi Jan sorry to hear botu this ,

Ozone rectal insufflation doe sa lot of good to me ,

when I had problemes in my mouth my dct would apply ozone directly on the gum and ti would improve aver two or 3 application it rarely needed more than 5.

KIndly Marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 12:18 AMSubject: Re: : OT: Lefenuron update

Unfortunately for me, Im rather out of options.I have thrush which is also on my lips and they crack and peel constantly.I have kept gaining more and more weight and Ive been taking most of the natural remedies and available pharmaceuticals for yeast.Having been a human guinea pig for the last 9 years when it comes to lyme, and trying a lot of things,some with and some without success, I feel like trying this is about one of the few options i have left to me Has anyone tried the Byron White A FNG or the Jennergan formulas for lyme and candida?

since apparently the lukefuron is only toxic to zooplankton and a few other tiny organisms it seems to be worthy as something to try.Its been shown to be non toxic in animals.If it works and knocks back my yeast to a manageble level then it will be worth it for me.There have been no human trials of this, only animals.But then most meds are tested on animals before they are tested on humans and well Ive gotta do something.Might as well be a guinea pig here too

I will let you know when or if I can see a difference

jan

Re: : OT: Lefenuron update Posted by: "Barbara Pierce" gmaoceans@... gmaoceans Date: Mon Mar 5, 2012 12:47 pm ((PST))To anybody,i didn't know anything about lufenuron so looked it up on wikipedia andhere is what it said. this is confusing to me. is this stuff ok for us totake. i have always been scared to give my animals flea meds and now weare taking it. it does show toxicity to water zooplankton. can anyone helpme understand the safety of this stuff????"Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with the truth

,and to dare to love completely." -R. Buckminster Fuller

March 6, 2012

Hi Jan,

I take several Jernigan formulas. Microbojen constantly, with a 4-day monthly

break; Silphitrin the same way; Borrelogen every other month; Lymogen every 4

months; Paragen every 4 months (approximately 26 days). Silphitrin is for the

ammonia, I believe, and the others are for LD and other related pathogens. I

was not aware that any of them work on candida, though ...

As far as I know, I do not have thrush, BUT my lips do crack and peel constantly

(and have my entire life). So if that is a symptom, I guess I have it.

Khaya

>

> Unfortunately for me, Im rather out of options.I have thrush which is also on

my lips and they crack and peel constantly.I have kept gaining more and more

weight and Ive been taking most of the natural remedies and available

pharmaceuticals for yeast.Having been a human guinea pig for the last 9 years

when it comes to lyme, and trying a lot of things,some with and some without

success, I feel like trying this is about one of the few options i have left to

me Has anyone tried the Byron White A FNG or the Jennergan formulas for lyme and

candida?since apparently the lukefuron is only toxic to zooplankton and a few

other tiny organisms it seems to be worthy as something to try.Its been shown to

be non toxic in animals.If it works and knocks back my yeast to a manageble

level then it will be worth it for me.There have been no human trials of this,

only animals.But then most meds are tested on animals before they are tested on

humans and well Ive gotta do

> something.Might as well be a guinea pig here tooI will let you know when or

if I can see a differencejan

>

> Re: : OT: Lefenuron update

> Posted by: " Barbara Pierce " gmaoceans@... gmaoceans

> Date: Mon Mar 5, 2012 12:47 pm ((PST))

>

> To anybody,

>

> i didn't know anything about lufenuron so looked it up on wikipedia and

> here is what it said. this is confusing to me. is this stuff ok for us to

> take. i have always been scared to give my animals flea meds and now we

> are taking it. it does show toxicity to water zooplankton. can anyone help

> me understand the safety of this stuff????

> " Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything

>

> really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with the truth ,and

to dare to love completely. " -R. Buckminster Fuller

>

March 6, 2012

Hi again--I found the jernigan " Yeast Ease " :

http://www.jernigannutraceuticals.com/Yeast-Ease_long_new.html

Has anyone had any experience with this? Khaya

> >

> > Unfortunately for me, Im rather out of options.I have thrush which is also

on my lips and they crack and peel constantly.I have kept gaining more and more