Re: Coiling for Bartonella

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I also had a similar experience. I started coiling for bartonella and worked up

to 5 min with no herx. Then switched to treating borrelia (432). After the

winter flare started to wane, I tried 832 again and had a herx.

I agree to work up to 5 minutes on the abdomen then add other body parts.

I now use different frequencies for bart. 832 hardly works at all. I am not

sure why unless it was treating one variety that I have treated to extinction.

But I have several other frequencies that are strong hits for bart and it is

still very active for me.

Sherry

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> > I've got a Doug Coil and am planning to start treating for Bartonella using

832 Hz. Couple of questions:

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> > 1) Should I start at the gut for the first few treatments and then move to

the head later on? I kind of want to start with the head since I have regular

headaches and cognitive issues like memory and focus issues. Maybe first

treatment would just be 15 secs at 832 Hz and see how my Herx is?

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> > 2) Are there other frequencies I should be trying for Bartonella?

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> > Thanks

> > Greg

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[Guest guest]

Great info Sherry. Would you mind sharing the other frequencies you're using

for Bart.?

Thanks!

Tara

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> > > I've got a Doug Coil and am planning to start treating for Bartonella

using 832 Hz. Couple of questions:

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> > > 1) Should I start at the gut for the first few treatments and then move to

the head later on? I kind of want to start with the head since I have regular

headaches and cognitive issues like memory and focus issues. Maybe first

treatment would just be 15 secs at 832 Hz and see how my Herx is?

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> > > 2) Are there other frequencies I should be trying for Bartonella?

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > Greg

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[Guest guest]

Hiyour goal is 2+ min. on every spot of your body, 2x a day.  as in a.m. and p.m.  hard to do because of the time it takes, you will feel married to the machine.  bart grows fast so needs 2x a day.  babs is treated  the same except you can do 1x day.

832 and 1518 are good freq for bart.  what else have you found that you get a herx from?barbara

 

Great info Sherry. Would you mind sharing the other frequencies you're using for Bart.?

Thanks!

Tara

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> > > I've got a Doug Coil and am planning to start treating for Bartonella using 832 Hz. Couple of questions:

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> > > 1) Should I start at the gut for the first few treatments and then move to the head later on? I kind of want to start with the head since I have regular headaches and cognitive issues like memory and focus issues. Maybe first treatment would just be 15 secs at 832 Hz and see how my Herx is?

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> > > 2) Are there other frequencies I should be trying for Bartonella?

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > Greg

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[Guest guest]

Thanks Barbara. I've only used 832 for Bart. and 432 for Lyme, but I get a herx

from both of those.

Tara

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> > > > > I've got a Doug Coil and am planning to start treating for

> > Bartonella using 832 Hz. Couple of questions:

> > > > >

> > > > > 1) Should I start at the gut for the first few treatments and then

> > move to the head later on? I kind of want to start with the head since I

> > have regular headaches and cognitive issues like memory and focus issues.

> > Maybe first treatment would just be 15 secs at 832 Hz and see how my Herx

> > is?

> > > > >

> > > > > 2) Are there other frequencies I should be trying for Bartonella?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks

> > > > > Greg

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[Guest guest]

My daughter started coiling for bart. She coiled for 20 seconds at 832 3 days

ago but hasn't had a noticeable herx. It took her 3 days to get a herx from the

lyme frequency, so we weren't sure if she should wait. After reading these posts

I decided she should coil for bart first and then add in Lyme. Should she be

coiling everyday for bart? If you get a herx, do you wait until its gone? Do I

wait a while to have her coil for babs?

Thanks,

Tonnie

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> > > > > I've got a Doug Coil and am planning to start treating for

> > Bartonella using 832 Hz. Couple of questions:

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> > > > > 1) Should I start at the gut for the first few treatments and then

> > move to the head later on? I kind of want to start with the head since I

> > have regular headaches and cognitive issues like memory and focus issues.

> > Maybe first treatment would just be 15 secs at 832 Hz and see how my Herx

> > is?

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> > > > > 2) Are there other frequencies I should be trying for Bartonella?

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> > > > > Thanks

> > > > > Greg

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[Guest guest]

Hi Tonnie20 seconds may not be enough time to get a herx for her.  for some it may be, for some not. depends on her pathogen load.  i think i started with more time at first.  is she coiling on her stomach first?  try slowly increasing the amount of time each day until she reaches a point of herxing, see how bad it is and how long it takes to clear.  jim has some good info on this area.  in time the goal is at least 2 min on every area 2x day.  

don't add in a second pathogen until you know were you are with first because you won't know what is doing what.  stay with the bart for a while.  when she begins to herx, keep increasing her time as she can handle it, until you reach 2 min. on  every spot 2x a day, and the herx is minimal. it may take some time though so be patient.  then you can add another freq.  you won't be treating daily for lyme for some some as you only treat every few days at first, depending on the herx.  again, jim has good info on this.

barbara

 

My daughter started coiling for bart. She coiled for 20 seconds at 832 3 days ago but hasn't had a noticeable herx. It took her 3 days to get a herx from the lyme frequency, so we weren't sure if she should wait. After reading these posts I decided she should coil for bart first and then add in Lyme. Should she be coiling everyday for bart? If you get a herx, do you wait until its gone? Do I wait a while to have her coil for babs?

Thanks,

Tonnie

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> > > > > I've got a Doug Coil and am planning to start treating for

> > Bartonella using 832 Hz. Couple of questions:

> > > > >

> > > > > 1) Should I start at the gut for the first few treatments and then

> > move to the head later on? I kind of want to start with the head since I

> > have regular headaches and cognitive issues like memory and focus issues.

> > Maybe first treatment would just be 15 secs at 832 Hz and see how my Herx

> > is?

> > > > >

> > > > > 2) Are there other frequencies I should be trying for Bartonella?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks

> > > > > Greg

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[Guest guest]

Sure, I'm happy to share my bartonella frequencies. I've used several but the

most effective for me right now are in order:

654.1 - 654.9 Hz. I'd start with 654.5 and if it doesn't work, go up and down

by tenths to see if you get a hit. I think this is for Vinsonii, and it is the

strongest for me right now.

354.2-354.9. This is the second strongest one, and I think it hits Henslae.

What I find is that each time I rife and muscle test frequencies, the effective

frequency varies in the tenths. Often it will be the lower end one time, and

the higher end the next. I don't know why, and I find this happens more for

bart than other infections. If you don't muscle test, then hopefully you can

find one where you respond and if you stick with it the coil will still be

effective as it supposedly covers a range between each whole number. I figure

that is probably a " bell curve " impact so that shifting each time to the most

effective frequency gives me more bang for my buck.

476.3-476.6 This is the third one typically, but isn't typically as strong for

me as the above two. I think it is for quintana.

Currently I usually treat 3-4 bart frequencies at a time, each for 2-4 minutes.

My source for these frequencies: www.lymeprotocol.com. I don't think all the

rife info is accurate---but the rife frequency list has been super helpful. The

" lyme kit " referred to on the site is what I have that I use for muscle testing.

These aren't the only ones I use but are the most frequent right now. I

initially did herx on 832, but it almost never comes up now as effective for

bart. I'm starting to wonder if it hits bart indirectly by hitting something

else that is impacting the immune system. But that's just my own musings.

Sherry

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> > I also had a similar experience. I started coiling for bartonella and

worked up to 5 min with no herx. Then switched to treating borrelia (432).

After the winter flare started to wane, I tried 832 again and had a herx.

> >

> > I agree to work up to 5 minutes on the abdomen then add other body parts.

> >

> > I now use different frequencies for bart. 832 hardly works at all. I am

not sure why unless it was treating one variety that I have treated to

extinction. But I have several other frequencies that are strong hits for bart

and it is still very active for me.

> >

> > Sherry

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the great info and link!

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> > > I also had a similar experience. I started coiling for bartonella and

worked up to 5 min with no herx. Then switched to treating borrelia (432).

After the winter flare started to wane, I tried 832 again and had a herx.

> > >

> > > I agree to work up to 5 minutes on the abdomen then add other body parts.

> > >

> > > I now use different frequencies for bart. 832 hardly works at all. I am

not sure why unless it was treating one variety that I have treated to

extinction. But I have several other frequencies that are strong hits for bart

and it is still very active for me.

> > >

> > > Sherry

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[Guest guest]

Hi Barbara and Tonnie,

Tonnie, Barbara is correct about not adding in another disease..

Bart will take up all the herx time your daughter can endure, add

in Lyme, she would have to take time off of Bart, which means

it would be reproducing and she would be falling behind..

This is so with any of the diseases, working on one at at time is

always best..

Take care,

Jim

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> > > > > > > I've got a Doug Coil and am planning to start treating for

> > > > Bartonella using 832 Hz. Couple of questions:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1) Should I start at the gut for the first few treatments and

> > then

> > > > move to the head later on? I kind of want to start with the head since

> > I

> > > > have regular headaches and cognitive issues like memory and focus

> > issues.

> > > > Maybe first treatment would just be 15 secs at 832 Hz and see how my

> > Herx

> > > > is?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2) Are there other frequencies I should be trying for Bartonella?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > Greg

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for all the information that you have provided. My daughter is up to coiling for 50 secs at 832 for Bartonella. What type of herxes are most common when coiling for Bartonella? She has been very edgy and gets upset extremely easily. This has been an ongoing problem, but it seems to have gotten worse over the past week, since she started coiling. I wasn't sure if this could be a herx. Also, she has mentioned that her eyes have been extra blurry. If these are herx symptoms, should we keep coiling? Should we add any more time, or stay with the 50 secs.?Thanks,TonnieTo: "Lyme and Rife" <Lyme_and_Rife >Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 8:29:37 PMSubject: Re: Coiling for Bartonella

Hi Barbara and Tonnie,

Tonnie, Barbara is correct about not adding in another disease..

Bart will take up all the herx time your daughter can endure, add

in Lyme, she would have to take time off of Bart, which means

it would be reproducing and she would be falling behind..

This is so with any of the diseases, working on one at at time is

always best..

Take care,

Jim

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> > > > > > > I've got a Doug Coil and am planning to start treating for

> > > > Bartonella using 832 Hz. Couple of questions:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1) Should I start at the gut for the first few treatments and

> > then

> > > > move to the head later on? I kind of want to start with the head since

> > I

> > > > have regular headaches and cognitive issues like memory and focus

> > issues.

> > > > Maybe first treatment would just be 15 secs at 832 Hz and see how my

> > Herx

> > > > is?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2) Are there other frequencies I should be trying for Bartonella?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > Greg

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[Guest guest]

Tonnie, Hi those are bart herxes! Also, the " anger " and rage/edginess can really

flare if pushed too hard. The blurry eyes are also a bart. herx that I get

frequently. I would stay where you are for a few days before increasing time.

Make sure you have some sort of " good detox " in place as well....I seem to have

a lot of metals releasing when killing off the bart. HTH's Jodie

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> > > > > > > > I've got a Doug Coil and am planning to start treating for

> > > > > Bartonella using 832 Hz. Couple of questions:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 1) Should I start at the gut for the first few treatments and

> > > then

> > > > > move to the head later on? I kind of want to start with the head since

> > > I

> > > > > have regular headaches and cognitive issues like memory and focus

> > > issues.

> > > > > Maybe first treatment would just be 15 secs at 832 Hz and see how my

> > > Herx

> > > > > is?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 2) Are there other frequencies I should be trying for

Bartonella?

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> > > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > > Greg

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