Guest guest Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 HI Suzie , I began with the EME I am not an expert as I had to switch to the coil to penetate the bone . I think the procedure for the coil and the emem is the same just 1sec of coil -90 sesonds of emem. So you detoxification may be increased in roder to get to higher time some emem need not ot be used more thna 20 mn then it needs 30mn of cooling os I was doing 20mn on 30 mn off I tryed all the frequencies but when I went ot the coil someone told me to began by the borella only 432 becuase then every other pathogenes are more easy to eradicate. Thsi isone approach some attach several coinf at the same time. what I uses as a detox is aenema colema and colonics they are so helpfull . When my husband has headahch I tell him to meke an aenam and the headach goes tth esame day or th emorning after as at noight th edetox is much more easy then for our body . do you take a toxine aborber charcoal etc ?Welcol is th eone that works the best for me but is costly . Sorry not to be of more help Kindly Marie To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 12:21 PMSubject: I need help from EMEM owners! I posted before but nobody answered (except you, Jim.) I have just started out rifing with an EMEM & am only up to 2 mins. on my face & 2 mins. on my stomach on 432. I have a bunch of other stuff (babs, ehrlichia, dental infections, candida, mercury, mcs, etc.) that I also have. I have been rifing every 4th day & have had increased tiredness & headache (not sure if that is a herx) for 2 days after treatment. How many minutes do I have to do just 432 before I can add another freq? Or can I add 1 right now? If I add it right now, should it be on the same day as 432 or a different day? How do you then determine what the herx is from? I know everybody has different reactions to things, but I sure could use some feedback. That is why I signed onto this group. How do I determine which illness needs to be rifed first after lyme (432) or is it just a guessing game? Thanks for any input.Susie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 , OK, that sounds good to me. I thought I was supposed to do only 432 but I am up to 6 minutes & don't know how far I am supposed to go with that. What was your max time for 432? So when you test for a new freq, you run it up to a 2-min test time to see if you herx (that is always a problem for me because I have so many symptoms every day it's hard to tell if there's a herx, then what would be the max time you would run for that freq? I guess I'm mostly confused about what's the most time you should run a freq on when you are treating it. What's the total time (including all freqs) that you feel safe running the EMEM before it overheats? By the way, what would happen if it overheated? Thanks very much for sharing your experiences. Now I can try something different. Susie > > > > I posted before but nobody answered (except you, Jim.) I have just started out rifing with an EMEM & am only up to 2 mins. on my face & 2 mins. on my stomach on 432. I have a bunch of other stuff (babs, ehrlichia, dental infections, candida, mercury, mcs, etc.) that I also have. I have been rifing every 4th day & have had increased tiredness & headache (not sure if that is a herx) for 2 days after treatment. How many minutes do I have to do just 432 before I can add another freq? Or can I add 1 right now? If I add it right now, should it be on the same day as 432 or a different day? How do you then determine what the herx is from? I know everybody has different reactions to things, but I sure could use some feedback. That is why I signed onto this group. How do I determine which illness needs to be rifed first after lyme (432) or is it just a guessing game? Thanks for any input. > > > > Susie > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Susie - I'm sorry, but I really don't have the answers to your questions. I've only been doing this for 6 months and am by no means an expert. Perhaps some of the more seasoned rifers can add their wisdom here. Sorry - > > > > > > I posted before but nobody answered (except you, Jim.) I have just started out rifing with an EMEM & am only up to 2 mins. on my face & 2 mins. on my stomach on 432. I have a bunch of other stuff (babs, ehrlichia, dental infections, candida, mercury, mcs, etc.) that I also have. I have been rifing every 4th day & have had increased tiredness & headache (not sure if that is a herx) for 2 days after treatment. How many minutes do I have to do just 432 before I can add another freq? Or can I add 1 right now? If I add it right now, should it be on the same day as 432 or a different day? How do you then determine what the herx is from? I know everybody has different reactions to things, but I sure could use some feedback. That is why I signed onto this group. How do I determine which illness needs to be rifed first after lyme (432) or is it just a guessing game? Thanks for any input. > > > > > > Susie > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 , That's ok. I realize this is going to be trial & error, hopefully less error. At least you came forth with another way to try. Thanks alot. Susie > > > > > > > > I posted before but nobody answered (except you, Jim.) I have just started out rifing with an EMEM & am only up to 2 mins. on my face & 2 mins. on my stomach on 432. I have a bunch of other stuff (babs, ehrlichia, dental infections, candida, mercury, mcs, etc.) that I also have. I have been rifing every 4th day & have had increased tiredness & headache (not sure if that is a herx) for 2 days after treatment. How many minutes do I have to do just 432 before I can add another freq? Or can I add 1 right now? If I add it right now, should it be on the same day as 432 or a different day? How do you then determine what the herx is from? I know everybody has different reactions to things, but I sure could use some feedback. That is why I signed onto this group. How do I determine which illness needs to be rifed first after lyme (432) or is it just a guessing game? Thanks for any input. > > > > > > > > Susie > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 Hi Susie, I used to have a Dan EMEM that I eventually bought an Ateleir Robin frequency generator to drive it. I would not run the EMEM bulb longer then about 30 minutes without a cool down. I know others run them longer, but I tend to play it safe. As far as how long your time. I would keep increasing your time on 432 as long as you are not experiencing EMF sensitivity. I became very EMF sensitive to the EMEM and eventually went to a coil machine which I don't find nearly as problematic in that regard. I do have another Plasma device the TrueRife F117, but it has a grounding pillow that you put your feet on to avert the EMF sensitivity that might otherwise occur on an EMEM. I would play it by ear. If you find that you can run it without the sensitivity, I would gauge the length of run time on your severity of herxheimer reaction. You can also get someone to energy test you, but if you are really sick, polarity could be off which might lead to a faulty reading. So the bottom line is, play it by ear and see how you feel and err on the side of caution, you can always do more time if you have minimal herxing. > > > > > > > > I posted before but nobody answered (except you, Jim.) I have just started out rifing with an EMEM & am only up to 2 mins. on my face & 2 mins. on my stomach on 432. I have a bunch of other stuff (babs, ehrlichia, dental infections, candida, mercury, mcs, etc.) that I also have. I have been rifing every 4th day & have had increased tiredness & headache (not sure if that is a herx) for 2 days after treatment. How many minutes do I have to do just 432 before I can add another freq? Or can I add 1 right now? If I add it right now, should it be on the same day as 432 or a different day? How do you then determine what the herx is from? I know everybody has different reactions to things, but I sure could use some feedback. That is why I signed onto this group. How do I determine which illness needs to be rifed first after lyme (432) or is it just a guessing game? Thanks for any input. > > > > > > > > Susie > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 , I also bought my machine from Dan & it now comes with a separate little generator. OK, so 30 minutes would be the max time. That is what I wanted to know. So that I know what to look out for, is there a way to distinguish the difference between EMF sensitivity & herx? Other than the seated position right in front of the bulb, is there any advantage to placing a specific body part directly in front of the bulb? Thank you & I really appreciate your help. Susie > > > > > > > > > > I posted before but nobody answered (except you, Jim.) I have just started out rifing with an EMEM & am only up to 2 mins. on my face & 2 mins. on my stomach on 432. I have a bunch of other stuff (babs, ehrlichia, dental infections, candida, mercury, mcs, etc.) that I also have. I have been rifing every 4th day & have had increased tiredness & headache (not sure if that is a herx) for 2 days after treatment. How many minutes do I have to do just 432 before I can add another freq? Or can I add 1 right now? If I add it right now, should it be on the same day as 432 or a different day? How do you then determine what the herx is from? I know everybody has different reactions to things, but I sure could use some feedback. That is why I signed onto this group. How do I determine which illness needs to be rifed first after lyme (432) or is it just a guessing game? Thanks for any input. > > > > > > > > > > Susie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 , With regards to the F-117, do you like that machine better than the EMEM. Does the F-117 use the same CALF frquencies as everyone else ????Thanks. To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 8:09 PM Subject: Re: I need help from EMEM owners! Hi Susie, I used to have a Dan EMEM that I eventually bought an Ateleir Robin frequency generator to drive it. I would not run the EMEM bulb longer then about 30 minutes without a cool down. I know others run them longer, but I tend to play it safe. As far as how long your time. I would keep increasing your time on 432 as long as you are not experiencing EMF sensitivity. I became very EMF sensitive to the EMEM and eventually went to a coil machine which I don't find nearly as problematic in that regard. I do have another Plasma device the TrueRife F117, but it has a grounding pillow that you put your feet on to avert the EMF sensitivity that might otherwise occur on an EMEM. I would play it by ear. If you find that you can run it without the sensitivity, I would gauge the length of run time on your severity of herxheimer reaction. You can also get someone to energy test you, but if you are really sick, polarity could be off which might lead to a faulty reading. So the bottom line is, play it by ear and see how you feel and err on the side of caution, you can always do more time if you have minimal herxing. > > > > > > > > I posted before but nobody answered (except you, Jim.) I have just started out rifing with an EMEM & am only up to 2 mins. on my face & 2 mins. on my stomach on 432. I have a bunch of other stuff (babs, ehrlichia, dental infections, candida, mercury, mcs, etc.) that I also have. I have been rifing every 4th day & have had increased tiredness & headache (not sure if that is a herx) for 2 days after treatment. How many minutes do I have to do just 432 before I can add another freq? Or can I add 1 right now? If I add it right now, should it be on the same day as 432 or a different day? How do you then determine what the herx is from? I know everybody has different reactions to things, but I sure could use some feedback. That is why I signed onto this group. How do I determine which illness needs to be rifed first after lyme (432) or is it just a guessing game? Thanks for any input. > > > > > > > > Susie > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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