Guest guest Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 Hi , Have you tried using Burbur in large doses. It is a detox herb from Nutramedix and was a life saver for me during big herxes. I would sometimes take as much as 125 drops in water. Also, you should probably run one frequency at a time. I would start with just 432 and use only the BCX not the EMEM5a. The BCX outputs less EMF and you actually may be suffering from EMF sensitivity and the EMEM really is bad for this. Heavy metals in the presence of EMF are often excited and some of the herxheimer reaction could actually be from the heavy metals in your body. I have had EMEMs, Contact devices and the Coil machine and the EMEM is the one that I am very sensitive to.( for one thing it is not grounded like the pad device.) I would run only 432 for awhile on the BCX box and see if it causes the encephalopathy, if not then try one of your other frequencies all by itself and see if it does. Sometimes you have to run only one frequency to see which ones are causing the biggest reaction. Unfortunately, the engineers who develop these preprogrammed rife units don't always understand the best treatment protocol for Lyme is to run only one frequency at a time. It is so much easier to delineate which symptoms are caused by which frequency or pathogen. I would also slow way down on the amount of time you run 432. You may only be able to run 3-5 minutes on the pad device to start. I think you are just having a massive herx. Once you get your bacterial and metal load down, you may be able to add in the EMEM back in to treat. > > I have an EMEM5a and a BCX-Ultra. Long story why I was off for a good time, but I restarted rifing about 2 weeks ago. > > I started back at 3 min on Lyme, Bart, Babs 432, 570, & 832 respectively. I seemed to do ok for the first 4-5 days, although I did have some Herxing, chills, but it was all tolerable. At day 5 or 6, I re-ran the same numbers, again at 3 min. each. > > Again, I herxed similarly to the first time, but by day 4, I began to get Encephalopathy type symptoms: > > For me, this would be off the wall Anxiety that Xanax doesn't touch, pathetic 2 y.o. crying, my right eyelid and sac below the eye swells, and I feel like I want to die. I have severe personality changes and I can almost feel the swelling in the brain if this is possible. > > Detoxing wise, I do a ton of Coffee Enemas, lots of water, epsom salt baths, fish oil, bromalain, baking soda, etc. Binders don't seem to do anything. Cholestyramine makes me worse worse and my fir sauna seems to exacerbate symptoms too. > > I know I have the " Dreaded " detox gene as many also have. > > Would love to hear if anyone has this problem and what to do about it. It's not consistent with Life when I get like this and the Herxing can go on for days and days. > > Whats weird is that it takes about 4 days after rifing before the full out Encephalopathy sets in, and this I do not understand. > > Thanks in advance, anyone/everyone... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 Dear , I ma very sorry to hear you are going throught a severe neuro herx. I am used to neuro herx and have grate difficulties to detox as well very few detoxs works for me and the one that works are not convenient . I had severe neuro herx in the past and it developp up to 6 days after I coiled piling up that is why I learned to be extremly cuatious in my increasing of time . And when I had severe neuro herx it iwas scary as I found that th emore embbended is the toxines the last it is to go. At this time I do up to 3 colonics a week and colemas every day . here is the logic why it works. our intestin has more neurone than th ewole meduallar chord . at teh beginning of the ascendant colon the one that is the latest emptied from colonic as it is th efurther part of the rectum is called the second brain . When we empty this part of the colon and rinse it right then the neurone began to clean as well accoding to my experience . If I were you I would do 3 consecutive day a colonic . the first oen reeduce the waste and stirrs the toxines I soemtime have a slight increases in the neuro symptoms then the second get rid of the wast deeper eventually to the bottom of the ascendant colon and the thrisd one rince it for good eliminated the toxones there and allowing the liver to damp more toxines from everywhere in the body . I tryed all the binders . Unfortunatly only welchol works for me and it is expensive , cholesteramine did nothing to me neither the hclorella I cannot take charcoal or clay because constipation. but I put charcoal in the enanema or colema and it helps a little bit . My typing changed I do not why i tis not intentionnal and I do not know how to put it back I might have touch inadverttently something .. If this 3 colonics have an effect then I would buuy a colema as once you have it at home it is much more economical than a colonic it cost 250 and then we have it . the burbur from nutramediX do some good also I take 2 full fropper at a time wait 10mn then do it again and again until decreasing of the symptoms . Kindly Marie To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2012 1:33 PMSubject: Need help w Rife Induced Encephalopathy / Encephalitis and now Detox Problems I have an EMEM5a and a BCX-Ultra. Long story why I was off for a good time, but I restarted rifing about 2 weeks ago.I started back at 3 min on Lyme, Bart, Babs 432, 570, & 832 respectively. I seemed to do ok for the first 4-5 days, although I did have some Herxing, chills, but it was all tolerable. At day 5 or 6, I re-ran the same numbers, again at 3 min. each. Again, I herxed similarly to the first time, but by day 4, I began to get Encephalopathy type symptoms:For me, this would be off the wall Anxiety that Xanax doesn't touch, pathetic 2 y.o. crying, my right eyelid and sac below the eye swells, and I feel like I want to die. I have severe personality changes and I can almost feel the swelling in the brain if this is possible.Detoxing wise, I do a ton of Coffee Enemas, lots of water, epsom salt baths, fish oil, bromalain, baking soda, etc. Binders don't seem to do anything. Cholestyramine makes me worse worse and my fir sauna seems to exacerbate symptoms too.I know I have the "Dreaded" detox gene as many also have. Would love to hear if anyone has this problem and what to do about it. It's not consistent with Life when I get like this and the Herxing can go on for days and days.Whats weird is that it takes about 4 days after rifing before the full out Encephalopathy sets in, and this I do not understand.Thanks in advance, anyone/everyone... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 Thank you both very much for your replies. I have Burber here, so I will go up on that. I know this is a Neuro Herx, but I get so scared when they happen as they last days on end and I fear I am stuck like this forever. My family, which isn't much thinks I need psychological help, but only I know what I'm feeling and I know this crying has no source. It's synthetic as is the Anxiety, and as an RN, I can only speculate it's affecting the Limbic region of the brain. What a scary disease this is. I couldn't tolerate Abx, so this way I'm not putting poison in me and I know the Herx should be mostly from die off. I don't think it's EMF problems as I have experienced very similar on the Abx, but this stop/start stuff just seems to be a big waste of time. I do have some Welchol here and might give that a shot and might even try putting the charcoal in the enema.. Never thought of that one. Thanks again, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 Hi , I like the redisorb liquid Glutathione in the coffee enema. Ordinarily Glutathione can not be absorbed through the stomach and must be administered via IV. I had been getting IV Glutathione almost weekly from my doctor and it really helped my allergy problems and helped to remove heavy metals. It got so expensive and I started thinking if it needs to administered IV what would stop it from absorbing through the hemmorhoidal artery, so I tried it and I was amazed at how well it worked. About 2 years later someone came out with a Glutathione suppository so I knew I was on the right track. I would also really consider cutting back your time on your machine for awhile and see if you can have a little more tolerable herx. You can always add time, but you can't take time away once you have overdone. > > Thank you both very much for your replies. I have Burber here, so I will go up on that. I know this is a Neuro Herx, but I get so scared when they happen as they last days on end and I fear I am stuck like this forever. > > My family, which isn't much thinks I need psychological help, but only I know what I'm feeling and I know this crying has no source. > > It's synthetic as is the Anxiety, and as an RN, I can only speculate it's affecting the Limbic region of the brain. > > What a scary disease this is. I couldn't tolerate Abx, so this way I'm not putting poison in me and I know the Herx should be mostly from die off. I don't think it's EMF problems as I have experienced very similar on the Abx, but this stop/start stuff just seems to be a big waste of time. I do have some Welchol here and might give that a shot and might even try putting the charcoal in the enema.. Never thought of that one. > > Thanks again, > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 fro welchol you need to tak eit with a big glass of water and during a meal kindly Marie To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2012 9:54 PMSubject: Re: Need help w Rife Induced Encephalopathy / Encephalitis and now Detox Problems Thank you both very much for your replies. I have Burber here, so I will go up on that. I know this is a Neuro Herx, but I get so scared when they happen as they last days on end and I fear I am stuck like this forever.My family, which isn't much thinks I need psychological help, but only I know what I'm feeling and I know this crying has no source.It's synthetic as is the Anxiety, and as an RN, I can only speculate it's affecting the Limbic region of the brain.What a scary disease this is. I couldn't tolerate Abx, so this way I'm not putting poison in me and I know the Herx should be mostly from die off. I don't think it's EMF problems as I have experienced very similar on the Abx, but this stop/start stuff just seems to be a big waste of time. I do have some Welchol here and might give that a shot and might even try putting the charcoal in the enema.. Never thought of that one.Thanks again, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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