RE: Re: Soy question and good days/bad days

[Guest guest]

I use regular white, sifted bread flour. My son gets very limited gluten (one

pancake in the a.m., half a sandwich at lunch on school days and that’s pretty

much it for the day).

Kristy

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of kavita

mallik

Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 7:26 AM

Subject: RE: Re: Soy question and good days/bad days

Kristy what flour do you use for pancakes and pizzas, I have been using GFCF

flours but thought he maybe ready for a switch. kavita

> > > > >

> > > > > > My son gets very angry and irritable,

> > and like

> > > > you

> > > > > > described, highly emotional. One way I

> > can tell

> > > > > > it's soy (besides the slack angy

> > expression on

> > > > his

> > > > > > face) is that his pupils will be

> > slightly

> > > > dilated

> > > > > -

> > > > > > not so much to qualify as dilated by a

> > doctor,

> > > > but

> > > > > > noticible compared to other people. ANY

> > time I

> > > > > hear

> > > > > > of a kid who is very irritable and

> > prone to

> > > > anger,

> > > > > I

> > > > > > think first soy, and second, allergy

> > meds.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It takes about 5 days for his reactions

> > to soy

> > > > to

> > > > > > completely go away (and probably for

> > his mood to

> > > > > > stabilize) if he has been reacting to

> > it for a

> > > > > > while, but you can see improvement

> > pretty

> > > > quickly

> > > > > > too.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Zyrtec made him irritable too, but not

> > as bad as

> > > > > > allegra, and you really need allergy

> > meds. So

> > > > if

> > > > > > you could pull the soy and get the mood

> > > > > stabilized,

> > > > > > maybe he can handle it.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > HTH-

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > From: Robyn <rngcoggs@sbcglobal .

> > net>

> > > > > > groups (DOT) com

> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2009 9:10:50 AM

> > > > > > Subject: Re: Soy question and

> > good

> > > > days/bad

> > > > > > days

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi, Caroline.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Can you describe your son's

> > reaction to soy?

> > > > What

> > > > > > sort of behaviors do

> > > > > > you see? I'm having a lot of

> > trouble with highly

> > > > > > emotional, irritable

> > > > > > and irrational behavior from my oldest.

> > We went

> > > > > off

> > > > > > rice milk per Dr.

> > > > > > G and went to soy milk. He's been

> > eating the soy

> > > > > > toffutti cuties,

> > > > > > which are like ice cream sandwiches,

> > with no

> > > > > > problem. I switched him

> > > > > > from Allergra to Zyrtec, thinking that

> > was the

> > > > > > problem. It did get

> > > > > > better, but not completely.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Any insight would be appreciated.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > All the best,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Robyn

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Soy seems to be a problem for one

> > of my boys

> > > > as

> > > > > > far as it affecting

> > > > > > his

> > > > > > > atiitude (and I know I¹m not the

> > only one with

> > > > a

> > > > > > child with this

> > > > > > problem).

> > > > > > > Both of my sons react to soy

> > on their

> > > > food

> > > > > > screens, but it only

> > > > > > seems

> > > > > > > to affect the one behaviorally.

> > Dr. G told us

> > > > > said

> > > > > > that soybean oil

> > > > > > should

> > > > > > > be OK as it doesn¹t contain the

> > protein that

> > > > he

> > > > > > thinks they are

> > > > > > reacting to.

> > > > > > > That seems to hold true with my

> > son. But soy

> > > > > > lecithin seems to be a

> > > > > > trigger

> > > > > > > for him.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Caroline G.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > From: Hankinson

> > <jlhank80@.. .>

> > > > > > > Reply-<groups (DOT)

> > com>

> > > > > > > Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 19:05:30

> > -0800 (PST)

> > > > > > > <groups (DOT) com>

> > > > > > > Subject: Soy question and

> > good days/bad

> > > > > > days

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hi Listmates, I know I ask a lot

> > of questions

> > > > on

> > > > > > > here...but I need help! I was

> > wondering if

> > > > > anyone

> > > > > > > here has their child have problems

> > with soy.

> > > > And

> > > > > > if

> > > > > > > so, is soybean oil acceptable?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > === message truncated ===

> > >

> > > May the Lord bless you and keep you!

> > >

> > > Visit my blog

> > >

> > > http://bloominwhere yourplanted. blogspot. com/

> <http://bloominwhere yourplanted. blogspot. com/>

> > > <http://bloominwhere yourplanted. blogspot. com/

> <http://bloominwhere yourplanted. blogspot. com/>>

> > >

> > >

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have papers stored somewhere re the link to cows milk and diabetes that were

real good, and another one showing just the natural immune stimulation that cows

milk does but is also associated w/diabetes, asthma, ?seizures?, and some other

autoimmune disorders.

If you want them, I'll try to find them.

________________________________

From: Jerri Gann <njgann@...>

Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2009 10:48:25 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Soy question and good days/bad days

We are trying to get his eosinophils down and avoid diabetes. Dr G is

always telling me my son is one dose of milk away from diabetes. He gets

the red rash around his mouth off and on all the time. I would love to

figure out what causes it. Jerri

>

>

> What symptoms were you experiencing?

>

> Robyn

>

>

> > > > >

> > > > > > My son gets very angry and irritable,

> > and like

> > > > you

> > > > > > described, highly emotional. One way I

> > can tell

> > > > > > it's soy (besides the slack angy

> > expression on

> > > > his

> > > > > > face) is that his pupils will be

> > slightly

> > > > dilated

> > > > > -

> > > > > > not so much to qualify as dilated by a

> > doctor,

> > > > but

> > > > > > noticible compared to other people. ANY

> > time I

> > > > > hear

> > > > > > of a kid who is very irritable and

> > prone to

> > > > anger,

> > > > > I

> > > > > > think first soy, and second, allergy

> > meds.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It takes about 5 days for his reactions

> > to soy

> > > > to

> > > > > > completely go away (and probably for

> > his mood to

> > > > > > stabilize) if he has been reacting to

> > it for a

> > > > > > while, but you can see improvement

> > pretty

> > > > quickly

> > > > > > too.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Zyrtec made him irritable too, but not

> > as bad as

> > > > > > allegra, and you really need allergy

> > meds. So

> > > > if

> > > > > > you could pull the soy and get the mood

> > > > > stabilized,

> > > > > > maybe he can handle it.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > HTH-

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > From: Robyn <rngcoggs@sbcglobal .

> > net>

> > > > > > groups (DOT) com

> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2009 9:10:50 AM

> > > > > > Subject: Re: Soy question and

> > good

> > > > days/bad

> > > > > > days

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi, Caroline.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Can you describe your son's

> > reaction to soy?

> > > > What

> > > > > > sort of behaviors do

> > > > > > you see? I'm having a lot of

> > trouble with highly

> > > > > > emotional, irritable

> > > > > > and irrational behavior from my oldest.

> > We went

> > > > > off

> > > > > > rice milk per Dr.

> > > > > > G and went to soy milk. He's been

> > eating the soy

> > > > > > toffutti cuties,

> > > > > > which are like ice cream sandwiches,

> > with no

> > > > > > problem. I switched him

> > > > > > from Allergra to Zyrtec, thinking that

> > was the

> > > > > > problem. It did get

> > > > > > better, but not completely.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Any insight would be appreciated.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > All the best,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Robyn

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Soy seems to be a problem for one

> > of my boys

> > > > as

> > > > > > far as it affecting

> > > > > > his

> > > > > > > atiitude (and I know I¹m not the

> > only one with

> > > > a

> > > > > > child with this

> > > > > > problem).

> > > > > > > Both of my sons react to soy

> > on their

> > > > food

> > > > > > screens, but it only

> > > > > > seems

> > > > > > > to affect the one behaviorally.

> > Dr. G told us

> > > > > said

> > > > > > that soybean oil

> > > > > > should

> > > > > > > be OK as it doesn¹t contain the

> > protein that

> > > > he

> > > > > > thinks they are

> > > > > > reacting to.

> > > > > > > That seems to hold true with my

> > son. But soy

> > > > > > lecithin seems to be a

> > > > > > trigger

> > > > > > > for him.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Caroline G.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > From: Hankinson

> > <jlhank80@.. .>

> > > > > > > Reply-<groups (DOT)

> > com>

> > > > > > > Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 19:05:30

> > -0800 (PST)

> > > > > > > <groups (DOT) com>

> > > > > > > Subject: Soy question and

> > good days/bad

> > > > > > days

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hi Listmates, I know I ask a lot

> > of questions

> > > > on

> > > > > > > here...but I need help! I was

> > wondering if

> > > > > anyone

> > > > > > > here has their child have problems

> > with soy.

> > > > And

> > > > > > if

> > > > > > > so, is soybean oil acceptable?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > === message truncated ===

> > >

> > > May the Lord bless you and keep you!

> > >

> > > Visit my blog

> > >

> > > http://bloominwhere yourplanted. blogspot. com/

> <http://bloominwhere yourplanted. blogspot. com/>

> > > <http://bloominwhere yourplanted. blogspot. com/

> <http://bloominwhere yourplanted. blogspot. com/>>

> > >

> > >

>

>

[Guest guest]

wrote:

Thanks but I am fully convinced in Dr. G's ways. In fact I was

reading about Stage 2 diabetes on Web MD and they recommend a dairy free

diet also the Chinese and Japanese have relatively no breast cancer in

their societies and they are attributing it to a no milk diet. Bad stuff

for everyone I think, milk is.

> I have papers stored somewhere re the link to cows milk and diabetes

> that were real good, and another one showing just the natural immune

> stimulation that cows milk does but is also associated w/diabetes,

> asthma, ?seizures?, and some other autoimmune disorders.

> If you want them, I'll try to find them.

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Jerri Gann <njgann@... <mailto:njgann%40sti.net>>

> <mailto:%40>

> Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2009 10:48:25 PM

> Subject: Re: Re: Soy question and good days/bad days

>

> We are trying to get his eosinophils down and avoid diabetes. Dr G is

> always telling me my son is one dose of milk away from diabetes. He gets

> the red rash around his mouth off and on all the time. I would love to

> figure out what causes it. Jerri

> >

> >

> > What symptoms were you experiencing?

> >

> > Robyn

> >

> >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > My son gets very angry and irritable,

> > > and like

> > > > > you

> > > > > > > described, highly emotional. One way I

> > > can tell

> > > > > > > it's soy (besides the slack angy

> > > expression on

> > > > > his

> > > > > > > face) is that his pupils will be

> > > slightly

> > > > > dilated

> > > > > > -

> > > > > > > not so much to qualify as dilated by a

> > > doctor,

> > > > > but

> > > > > > > noticible compared to other people. ANY

> > > time I

> > > > > > hear

> > > > > > > of a kid who is very irritable and

> > > prone to

> > > > > anger,

> > > > > > I

> > > > > > > think first soy, and second, allergy

> > > meds.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It takes about 5 days for his reactions

> > > to soy

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > completely go away (and probably for

> > > his mood to

> > > > > > > stabilize) if he has been reacting to

> > > it for a

> > > > > > > while, but you can see improvement

> > > pretty

> > > > > quickly

> > > > > > > too.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Zyrtec made him irritable too, but not

> > > as bad as

> > > > > > > allegra, and you really need allergy

> > > meds. So

> > > > > if

> > > > > > > you could pull the soy and get the mood

> > > > > > stabilized,

> > > > > > > maybe he can handle it.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > HTH-

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > > From: Robyn <rngcoggs@sbcglobal .

> > > net>

> > > > > > > groups (DOT) com

> > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2009 9:10:50 AM

> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Soy question and

> > > good

> > > > > days/bad

> > > > > > > days

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hi, Caroline.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Can you describe your son's

> > > reaction to soy?

> > > > > What

> > > > > > > sort of behaviors do

> > > > > > > you see? I'm having a lot of

> > > trouble with highly

> > > > > > > emotional, irritable

> > > > > > > and irrational behavior from my oldest.

> > > We went

> > > > > > off

> > > > > > > rice milk per Dr.

> > > > > > > G and went to soy milk. He's been

> > > eating the soy

> > > > > > > toffutti cuties,

> > > > > > > which are like ice cream sandwiches,

> > > with no

> > > > > > > problem. I switched him

> > > > > > > from Allergra to Zyrtec, thinking that

> > > was the

> > > > > > > problem. It did get

> > > > > > > better, but not completely.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Any insight would be appreciated.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > All the best,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Robyn

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Soy seems to be a problem for one

> > > of my boys

> > > > > as

> > > > > > > far as it affecting

> > > > > > > his

> > > > > > > > atiitude (and I know I¹m not the

> > > only one with

> > > > > a

> > > > > > > child with this

> > > > > > > problem).

> > > > > > > > Both of my sons react to soy

> > > on their

> > > > > food

> > > > > > > screens, but it only

> > > > > > > seems

> > > > > > > > to affect the one behaviorally.

> > > Dr. G told us

> > > > > > said

> > > > > > > that soybean oil

> > > > > > > should

> > > > > > > > be OK as it doesn¹t contain the

> > > protein that

> > > > > he

> > > > > > > thinks they are

> > > > > > > reacting to.

> > > > > > > > That seems to hold true with my

> > > son. But soy

> > > > > > > lecithin seems to be a

> > > > > > > trigger

> > > > > > > > for him.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Caroline G.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > From: Hankinson

> > > <jlhank80@.. .>

> > > > > > > > Reply-<groups (DOT)

> > > com>

> > > > > > > > Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 19:05:30

> > > -0800 (PST)

> > > > > > > > <groups (DOT) com>

> > > > > > > > Subject: Soy question and

> > > good days/bad

> > > > > > > days

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hi Listmates, I know I ask a lot

> > > of questions

> > > > > on

> > > > > > > > here...but I need help! I was

> > > wondering if

> > > > > > anyone

> > > > > > > > here has their child have problems

> > > with soy.

> > > > > And

> > > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > so, is soybean oil acceptable?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > === message truncated ===

> > > >

> > > > May the Lord bless you and keep you!

> > > >

> > > > Visit my blog

> > > >

> > > > http://bloominwhere yourplanted. blogspot. com/

> > <http://bloominwhere yourplanted. blogspot. com/>

> > > > <http://bloominwhere yourplanted. blogspot. com/

> > <http://bloominwhere yourplanted. blogspot. com/>>

> > > >

> > > >

> >

> >

>

>