Wish I NEVER heard about coil machine and MMS.

[Guest guest]

One or both of them have ruined my life. I used the coil heavily over three

months for Bartonella and Babesia some three years ago. I was using it everyday

for 10 mins over my liver area for Bartonella. I would get heartburn after each

session, but I thot it was herxing. Since then I have the worst abdominal

symptoms you can think of. I have tried everything and now I am in such despair

over this condition.

I had taken MMS for about 2 weeks after ending the coil usage.

Why am I the only one who ever experienced this with the coil? Better yet how

can I ever get out if this mess? Tests show I have low elastase level which

indicates pancreatic insuffieciency, and level one yeast infection of the

intestines. Did the coil hurt my intestines and pancrease? Just what is

happening to me. I don't know where else to rant at. I am mad, just not sure at

who. I have suffered so much with these weird abdominal symptoms. Sob.

Angie.

[Guest guest]

Angie,

I can't speak to most of your specifics, but after I treat with certain

frequencies (for me, 800 Hz), I will get diarrhea *until* I take a couple of

days of probiotics. Sometimes I forget to take them and wonder why I'm having

GI problems.

The frequencies we treat with are not as bacteria selective as we'd probably

like. We are killing both good *and* bad bacteria. It's just like with

antibiotics, but abx seem to be kill even more types of bacteria.

Just my experience, YMMV. Good luck.

>

> One or both of them have ruined my life. I used the coil heavily over three

months for Bartonella and Babesia some three years ago. I was using it everyday

for 10 mins over my liver area for Bartonella. I would get heartburn after each

session, but I thot it was herxing. Since then I have the worst abdominal

symptoms you can think of. I have tried everything and now I am in such despair

over this condition.

>

> I had taken MMS for about 2 weeks after ending the coil usage.

>

> Why am I the only one who ever experienced this with the coil? Better yet how

can I ever get out if this mess? Tests show I have low elastase level which

indicates pancreatic insuffieciency, and level one yeast infection of the

intestines. Did the coil hurt my intestines and pancrease? Just what is

happening to me. I don't know where else to rant at. I am mad, just not sure at

who. I have suffered so much with these weird abdominal symptoms. Sob.

>

> Angie.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Angie,

I am very sorry that you have had such a bad experience. It is very common for

Lyme to damage the Pancreas. Many people with Lyme end up with serious blood

sugar problems. I have a Lymie friend from New York that goes with me to my

Homeopathic MD in Mexico and the doctor told both of us we have blood sugar

issues (low blood sugar). She has never touched a rife machine. I believe your

pancreas issues are unrelated to the coil machine.

It is also common to have acid reflux with Lyme disease. Lymies tend to have

very low HCL levels and because of this acid reflux is often a symptom. Dr

Klinghardt even mentioned that people who have KPU (low zinc levels) sometimes

improve their stomach acid production by taking zinc. Apparently the ability to

make HCL is zinc dependent according to Klinghardt. You can have your stomach

acid tested by finding an MD in your area that does the Heidelburg Capsule test.

You will have to go to the phcapsule.com website to find someone in your area

that can test you. HCL is a quick fix for Acid reflux when taken with meals and

it is amazing how quickly it can turn your situation around. It is also

probably not advisable to run your coil machine after eating.

As far as the coil machine and MMS causing your problem, my guess is that if you

were only coiling for Bartonella and Babesia, you may have knocked it back

enough to allow the Lyme to take over. One organism can keep the others in

check until it is eliminated and then another one will rise up to take it's

place. That is why I think it is important to hit Lyme once a week while

coiling for these other infections. I made the mistake of only coiling for Lyme

and once the Lyme load was knocked back, the Mycoplasma really took over. I

think it is good to keep knocking Lyme back while you are working on the

coinfections even if it is only twice a month. I suspect that your recent

problems are actually caused by Lyme and have nothing to do with either MMS or

the coil machine.

It really is tricky treating these organisms with Rife and it certainly isn't

for everyone. To complicate matters if you ever treated Lyme with antibiotics

and then stopped. It could be that you had spirochetes come out of cyst. It is

not uncommon for people who stop taking antibiotics to actually get worse then

ever. That is why I love the coil machine. It kills the spirochetes before

they can encyst. I now only coil 2 times a year during spring and fall flare

ups. It is a surprise attack on the Borrelia and the more I catch them off

guard, the less comes out the next time they become active. I eventually

anticipate being able to stop coiling all together.

All I can tell you is the Coil Machine was the best purchase I ever made. After

a year of coiling once a week for Lyme, I was feeling almost normal again.

>

> One or both of them have ruined my life. I used the coil heavily over three

months for Bartonella and Babesia some three years ago. I was using it everyday

for 10 mins over my liver area for Bartonella. I would get heartburn after each

session, but I thot it was herxing. Since then I have the worst abdominal

symptoms you can think of. I have tried everything and now I am in such despair

over this condition.

>

> I had taken MMS for about 2 weeks after ending the coil usage.

>

> Why am I the only one who ever experienced this with the coil? Better yet how

can I ever get out if this mess? Tests show I have low elastase level which

indicates pancreatic insuffieciency, and level one yeast infection of the

intestines. Did the coil hurt my intestines and pancrease? Just what is

happening to me. I don't know where else to rant at. I am mad, just not sure at

who. I have suffered so much with these weird abdominal symptoms. Sob.

>

> Angie.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Angie,

One other thing I forgot to mention is that my MD put me on the pancreatic

enzyme called Chymotrypsin because I had very low levels. She tested these

levels long before I ever used a rife machine and they were low and my blood

sugar was also very low and Insulin was off the charts.

> >

> > One or both of them have ruined my life. I used the coil heavily over three

months for Bartonella and Babesia some three years ago. I was using it everyday

for 10 mins over my liver area for Bartonella. I would get heartburn after each

session, but I thot it was herxing. Since then I have the worst abdominal

symptoms you can think of. I have tried everything and now I am in such despair

over this condition.

> >

> > I had taken MMS for about 2 weeks after ending the coil usage.

> >

> > Why am I the only one who ever experienced this with the coil? Better yet

how can I ever get out if this mess? Tests show I have low elastase level which

indicates pancreatic insuffieciency, and level one yeast infection of the

intestines. Did the coil hurt my intestines and pancrease? Just what is

happening to me. I don't know where else to rant at. I am mad, just not sure at

who. I have suffered so much with these weird abdominal symptoms. Sob.

> >

> > Angie.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Angie, I am sorry to hear you are having so much trouble. I have run a lot of

frequencies with a doug coil machine on my abdomen for a number of minutes,

including 10 minutes on the liver for babesia. I haven't noticing it causing

worsening of gut issues.

I wonder if you would mind giving a more detailed description of the gut

symptoms you are having, what diet you follow, what remedies you have tried with

what effect. Otherwise it is hard to try to think through what might be

different about your situation than others.

My first thought is whether you have corrected the gut flora balance.

Sherry

>

> One or both of them have ruined my life. I used the coil heavily over three

months for Bartonella and Babesia some three years ago. I was using it everyday

for 10 mins over my liver area for Bartonella. I would get heartburn after each

session, but I thot it was herxing. Since then I have the worst abdominal

symptoms you can think of. I have tried everything and now I am in such despair

over this condition.

>

> I had taken MMS for about 2 weeks after ending the coil usage.

>

> Why am I the only one who ever experienced this with the coil? Better yet how

can I ever get out if this mess? Tests show I have low elastase level which

indicates pancreatic insuffieciency, and level one yeast infection of the

intestines. Did the coil hurt my intestines and pancrease? Just what is

happening to me. I don't know where else to rant at. I am mad, just not sure at

who. I have suffered so much with these weird abdominal symptoms. Sob.

>

> Angie.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Angie,

I am sorry to hear you are still dealing with this...

Do you think it is just coincidence this just happened at the time in your life

you were Coiling? Meaning that something else is going on with you that may be

completely unrelated to Lyme.

As you say, this is only happening to you.. I've never heard of anyone on my

support groups with the condition you have.

According to this link, this condition you have can be caused by structural

changes in the pancreas as we age...

http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2318/11/4

What does you doctor say is the next step for you? Are you treating the yeast

infection?

Take care,

Jim

>

> One or both of them have ruined my life. I used the coil heavily over three

months for Bartonella and Babesia some three years ago. I was using it everyday

for 10 mins over my liver area for Bartonella. I would get heartburn after each

session, but I thot it was herxing. Since then I have the worst abdominal

symptoms you can think of. I have tried everything and now I am in such despair

over this condition.

>

> I had taken MMS for about 2 weeks after ending the coil usage.

>

> Why am I the only one who ever experienced this with the coil? Better yet how

can I ever get out if this mess? Tests show I have low elastase level which

indicates pancreatic insuffieciency, and level one yeast infection of the

intestines. Did the coil hurt my intestines and pancrease? Just what is

happening to me. I don't know where else to rant at. I am mad, just not sure at

who. I have suffered so much with these weird abdominal symptoms. Sob.

>

> Angie.

>