Re: OT: Ohira probiotics (was: wish I had never heard of the coil or MMS)

[Guest guest]

Yeah I'd like to know too. Thanks.

Angie.

> > > >

> > > > AngieIt sounds like you may need heavy doses of a good probiotic.You

maybe should get Swansons brand probiotics that have 66 billion units of

probiotic per capsule and take 3 times a day.Also a product called Kolorex which

is horopito , and Kandidaplex which is a herbal combinationBetaine HCL with

meals is also helpful with candida.jan

> > > >  One or both of them have ruined my life. I used the coil heavily over

three months for Bartonella and Babesia some three years ago. I was using it

everyday for 10 mins over my liver area for Bartonella. I would get heartburn

after each session, but I thot it was herxing. Since then I have the worst

abdominal symptoms you can think of. I have tried everything and now I am in

such despair over this condition. 

> > > > > 

> > > > > I had taken MMS for about 2 weeks after ending the coil usage. 

> > > > > 

> > > > > Why am I the only one who ever experienced this with the coil? Better

yet how can I ever get out if this mess? Tests show I have low elastase level

which indicates pancreatic insuffieciency, and level one yeast infection of the

intestines. Did the coil hurt my intestines and pancrease? Just what is

happening to me. I don't know where else to rant at. I am mad, just not sure at

who. I have suffered so much with these weird abdominal symptoms. Sob. 

> > > > > 

> > > > > Angie. 

> > > >

> > > > " Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything

> > > >

> > > > really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with the truth

,and to dare to love completely. " -R. Buckminster Fuller

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

While we are waiting for 's response to the Dr. Ohira question, is it

possible that the coil could have damaged my intestinal nerves? I say this

because there is a knot of pain that I feel at just a permanent spot along my

intestines I guess. This spot is right underneath where I was hugging the coil

to my belly. Since using the coil, every so often, I feel this twinge of pain

right around that same area. It usually is more prominent when I am having a bad

flare up of all these abdominal symptoms. Could some intestinal nerves have been

damaged by the coil?

I'm so sorry to keep going on about this, but I have nowhere else to turn to.

When will this torture end? I'll get the Dr. Ohira product. Please tell

us more.

Angie.

> > > >

> > > > AngieIt sounds like you may need heavy doses of a good probiotic.You

maybe should get Swansons brand probiotics that have 66 billion units of

probiotic per capsule and take 3 times a day.Also a product called Kolorex which

is horopito , and Kandidaplex which is a herbal combinationBetaine HCL with

meals is also helpful with candida.jan

> > > >  One or both of them have ruined my life. I used the coil heavily over

three months for Bartonella and Babesia some three years ago. I was using it

everyday for 10 mins over my liver area for Bartonella. I would get heartburn

after each session, but I thot it was herxing. Since then I have the worst

abdominal symptoms you can think of. I have tried everything and now I am in

such despair over this condition. 

> > > > > 

> > > > > I had taken MMS for about 2 weeks after ending the coil usage. 

> > > > > 

> > > > > Why am I the only one who ever experienced this with the coil? Better

yet how can I ever get out if this mess? Tests show I have low elastase level

which indicates pancreatic insuffieciency, and level one yeast infection of the

intestines. Did the coil hurt my intestines and pancrease? Just what is

happening to me. I don't know where else to rant at. I am mad, just not sure at

who. I have suffered so much with these weird abdominal symptoms. Sob. 

> > > > > 

> > > > > Angie. 

> > > >

> > > > " Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything

> > > >

> > > > really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with the truth

,and to dare to love completely. " -R. Buckminster Fuller

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Angie, What type of detox where you doing while using the coil or mms? It

could be possible you killed more then your body could handle and now metals and

other bio-toxins are causing issues. It also could be another co-infection not

necessarily lyme, bart, or babesia that you aren't aware of! Lyme, bart, babs

etc. are bad enough but if we don't detox the toxin residues and deal with the

" other " the symptoms can be just as bad...if not worse! I haven never " coiled "

but have used MMS very heavily (by mouth, enema, bath, inhalation) for over 8

months and detox is key! For me the " gut " has always been a weak area!

Parasites are also very difficult to eradicate. Have u been treating LYME and

co's for the past 2 years since this pain started? Maybe finding someone that

does energetic testing could possibly find out what is causing your issues? (If

you believe in it)! These are just some questions that " popped " into mind when

reading your story. Jodie L.

> > > > >

> > > > > AngieIt sounds like you may need heavy doses of a good probiotic.You

maybe should get Swansons brand probiotics that have 66 billion units of

probiotic per capsule and take 3 times a day.Also a product called Kolorex which

is horopito , and Kandidaplex which is a herbal combinationBetaine HCL with

meals is also helpful with candida.jan

> > > > >  One or both of them have ruined my life. I used the coil heavily over

three months for Bartonella and Babesia some three years ago. I was using it

everyday for 10 mins over my liver area for Bartonella. I would get heartburn

after each session, but I thot it was herxing. Since then I have the worst

abdominal symptoms you can think of. I have tried everything and now I am in

such despair over this condition. 

> > > > > > 

> > > > > > I had taken MMS for about 2 weeks after ending the coil usage. 

> > > > > > 

> > > > > > Why am I the only one who ever experienced this with the coil?

Better yet how can I ever get out if this mess? Tests show I have low elastase

level which indicates pancreatic insuffieciency, and level one yeast infection

of the intestines. Did the coil hurt my intestines and pancrease? Just what is

happening to me. I don't know where else to rant at. I am mad, just not sure at

who. I have suffered so much with these weird abdominal symptoms. Sob. 

> > > > > > 

> > > > > > Angie. 

> > > > >

> > > > > " Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything

> > > > >

> > > > > really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with the

truth ,and to dare to love completely. " -R. Buckminster Fuller

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you Jodie. I have not so much as treated Lyme in the last two and half

years. I have been all concentrated on getting over this abdominal issue. I'm

just worn out. At the time I was detoxing with coffee enema and clay. Must not

have done a good job of it.

Angie.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > AngieIt sounds like you may need heavy doses of a good probiotic.You

maybe should get Swansons brand probiotics that have 66 billion units of

probiotic per capsule and take 3 times a day.Also a product called Kolorex which

is horopito , and Kandidaplex which is a herbal combinationBetaine HCL with

meals is also helpful with candida.jan

> > > > > >  One or both of them have ruined my life. I used the coil heavily

over three months for Bartonella and Babesia some three years ago. I was using

it everyday for 10 mins over my liver area for Bartonella. I would get heartburn

after each session, but I thot it was herxing. Since then I have the worst

abdominal symptoms you can think of. I have tried everything and now I am in

such despair over this condition. 

> > > > > > > 

> > > > > > > I had taken MMS for about 2 weeks after ending the coil usage. 

> > > > > > > 

> > > > > > > Why am I the only one who ever experienced this with the coil?

Better yet how can I ever get out if this mess? Tests show I have low elastase

level which indicates pancreatic insuffieciency, and level one yeast infection

of the intestines. Did the coil hurt my intestines and pancrease? Just what is

happening to me. I don't know where else to rant at. I am mad, just not sure at

who. I have suffered so much with these weird abdominal symptoms. Sob. 

> > > > > > > 

> > > > > > > Angie. 

> > > > > >

> > > > > > " Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything

> > > > > >

> > > > > > really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with the

truth ,and to dare to love completely. " -R. Buckminster Fuller

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Angie,

Are you sure it isn't chronic Gastritis? That is what I have when I don't take

HCL. I have had a pain on my left side off and on for years and when I started

HCL betaine, it went away. What I noticed with the pain was that it would pass

when I would have a bowel movement. It gets worse at night when I am lying

down. I thought that it was an ulcer, but because it responded to HCL, I was

thinking that it was just due to low stomach acid. But, the HCL might be able to

kill the Hpylori organism that causes ulcers which might account for why it gets

better on HCL. Gluten and milk seem to aggravate the inflammation too.

> > > > >

> > > > > AngieIt sounds like you may need heavy doses of a good probiotic.You

maybe should get Swansons brand probiotics that have 66 billion units of

probiotic per capsule and take 3 times a day.Also a product called Kolorex which

is horopito , and Kandidaplex which is a herbal combinationBetaine HCL with

meals is also helpful with candida.jan

> > > > >  One or both of them have ruined my life. I used the coil heavily over

three months for Bartonella and Babesia some three years ago. I was using it

everyday for 10 mins over my liver area for Bartonella. I would get heartburn

after each session, but I thot it was herxing. Since then I have the worst

abdominal symptoms you can think of. I have tried everything and now I am in

such despair over this condition. 

> > > > > > 

> > > > > > I had taken MMS for about 2 weeks after ending the coil usage. 

> > > > > > 

> > > > > > Why am I the only one who ever experienced this with the coil?

Better yet how can I ever get out if this mess? Tests show I have low elastase

level which indicates pancreatic insuffieciency, and level one yeast infection

of the intestines. Did the coil hurt my intestines and pancrease? Just what is

happening to me. I don't know where else to rant at. I am mad, just not sure at

who. I have suffered so much with these weird abdominal symptoms. Sob. 

> > > > > > 

> > > > > > Angie. 

> > > > >

> > > > > " Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything

> > > > >

> > > > > really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with the

truth ,and to dare to love completely. " -R. Buckminster Fuller

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

At this point , it could be anything. I am going for a hydrogen breath test

on Monday to check for bacterial overgrowth. Then another endoscopy next week

Thursday. I guess that can rule out gastritis right? Don't know.

In the meantime, yes please I want to purchase the product you linked. Seems

like it is superior to their original formula? I have been reading some at their

website. Please connect me with your friend.

Angie.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > AngieIt sounds like you may need heavy doses of a good probiotic.You

maybe should get Swansons brand probiotics that have 66 billion units of

probiotic per capsule and take 3 times a day.Also a product called Kolorex which

is horopito , and Kandidaplex which is a herbal combinationBetaine HCL with

meals is also helpful with candida.jan

> > > > > >  One or both of them have ruined my life. I used the coil heavily

over three months for Bartonella and Babesia some three years ago. I was using

it everyday for 10 mins over my liver area for Bartonella. I would get heartburn

after each session, but I thot it was herxing. Since then I have the worst

abdominal symptoms you can think of. I have tried everything and now I am in

such despair over this condition. 

> > > > > > > 

> > > > > > > I had taken MMS for about 2 weeks after ending the coil usage. 

> > > > > > > 

> > > > > > > Why am I the only one who ever experienced this with the coil?

Better yet how can I ever get out if this mess? Tests show I have low elastase

level which indicates pancreatic insuffieciency, and level one yeast infection

of the intestines. Did the coil hurt my intestines and pancrease? Just what is

happening to me. I don't know where else to rant at. I am mad, just not sure at

who. I have suffered so much with these weird abdominal symptoms. Sob. 

> > > > > > > 

> > > > > > > Angie. 

> > > > > >

> > > > > > " Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything

> > > > > >

> > > > > > really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with the

truth ,and to dare to love completely. " -R. Buckminster Fuller

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Also guys it also just occurred to me now to add that since these horrible

symptoms started, only two things have brought me some measure of relief. The

first is initially a teaspoon of olive oil pretty much controlled the symptoms

all day for me. Unfortunately after a while , that quit working. Similarly a

probiotic my GI recommended actual worked for about 2 months then I watched in

dismay as it quit working. It was Align, an expensive OTC probiotic.

Do these thing that once worked turn in any lights for anyone as to what could

be happenning to me and what to do?

Thanks.

Angie.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > AngieIt sounds like you may need heavy doses of a good

probiotic.You maybe should get Swansons brand probiotics that have 66 billion

units of probiotic per capsule and take 3 times a day.Also a product called

Kolorex which is horopito , and Kandidaplex which is a herbal combinationBetaine

HCL with meals is also helpful with candida.jan

> > > > > > >  One or both of them have ruined my life. I used the coil heavily

over three months for Bartonella and Babesia some three years ago. I was using

it everyday for 10 mins over my liver area for Bartonella. I would get heartburn

after each session, but I thot it was herxing. Since then I have the worst

abdominal symptoms you can think of. I have tried everything and now I am in

such despair over this condition. 

> > > > > > > > 

> > > > > > > > I had taken MMS for about 2 weeks after ending the coil usage. 

> > > > > > > > 

> > > > > > > > Why am I the only one who ever experienced this with the coil?

Better yet how can I ever get out if this mess? Tests show I have low elastase

level which indicates pancreatic insuffieciency, and level one yeast infection

of the intestines. Did the coil hurt my intestines and pancrease? Just what is

happening to me. I don't know where else to rant at. I am mad, just not sure at

who. I have suffered so much with these weird abdominal symptoms. Sob. 

> > > > > > > > 

> > > > > > > > Angie. 

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > " Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with the

truth ,and to dare to love completely. " -R. Buckminster Fuller

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Did you try some colonics ? neurotoxines are well removed in my case with a coloinic or severla if the neur herxeimer is severe,

Kindly Marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 1:51 PMSubject: Re: OT: Ohira probiotics (was: wish I had never heard of the coil or MMS)

While we are waiting for 's response to the Dr. Ohira question, is it possible that the coil could have damaged my intestinal nerves? I say this because there is a knot of pain that I feel at just a permanent spot along my intestines I guess. This spot is right underneath where I was hugging the coil to my belly. Since using the coil, every so often, I feel this twinge of pain right around that same area. It usually is more prominent when I am having a bad flare up of all these abdominal symptoms. Could some intestinal nerves have been damaged by the coil?I'm so sorry to keep going on about this, but I have nowhere else to turn to. When will this torture end? I'll get the Dr. Ohira product. Please tell us more. Angie. > > > >> > > > AngieIt sounds like you may need heavy doses of a good probiotic.You maybe should get Swansons brand probiotics that have 66 billion units of probiotic per capsule and take 3 times a day.Also a product called Kolorex which is horopito , and Kandidaplex which is a herbal combinationBetaine HCL with meals is also helpful with candida.jan> > > > One or both of them have ruined my life. I used the coil heavily over three months for Bartonella and Babesia some three years ago. I was using it everyday for 10 mins over my liver area for Bartonella. I

would get heartburn after each session, but I thot it was herxing. Since then I have the worst abdominal symptoms you can think of. I have tried everything and now I am in such despair over this condition. > > > > > > > > > > I had taken MMS for about 2 weeks after ending the coil usage. > > > > > > > > > > Why am I the only one who ever experienced this with the coil? Better yet how can I ever get out if this mess? Tests show I have low elastase level which indicates pancreatic insuffieciency, and level one yeast infection of the intestines. Did the coil hurt my intestines and pancrease? Just what is happening to me. I don't know where else to rant at. I am mad, just not sure at who. I have suffered so much with these weird abdominal symptoms. Sob. > > > > > > > > > > Angie. > > > >

> > > > "Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything > > > > > > > > really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with the truth ,and to dare to love completely." -R. Buckminster Fuller> > > >> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Angie,

I had similar issue not my stomach but my right hand. 2 and 1/2 month ago I

coiled 432 for one and half min only. Next day not only I had terrible pain but

non-stop nerve tingling. (I am 70% better now.) I was worry coil had done some

damage on me. However, I asked few experts including Dr. Loyd. He believes it

is less chance that coil would have done some damages but might be due to toxic

/die-off building up. He said I had problem detoxing. I dare not going back to

coil yet. It is just too powerful for me. However, I found I am not getting

anywhere for my lyme ailment just doing mms/salt c. May be I should try coil 5

seconds and slow path from there. I am very frustrated. I believe Bart is my

major problem and so hard to get rid of.

I belive your issue will be melted away over time. Helen

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > AngieIt sounds like you may need heavy doses of a good

probiotic.You maybe should get Swansons brand probiotics that have 66 billion

units of probiotic per capsule and take 3 times a day.Also a product called

Kolorex which is horopito , and Kandidaplex which is a herbal combinationBetaine

HCL with meals is also helpful with candida.jan

> > > > > > >  One or both of them have ruined my life. I used the coil heavily

over three months for Bartonella and Babesia some three years ago. I was using

it everyday for 10 mins over my liver area for Bartonella. I would get heartburn

after each session, but I thot it was herxing. Since then I have the worst

abdominal symptoms you can think of. I have tried everything and now I am in

such despair over this condition. 

> > > > > > > > 

> > > > > > > > I had taken MMS for about 2 weeks after ending the coil usage. 

> > > > > > > > 

> > > > > > > > Why am I the only one who ever experienced this with the coil?

Better yet how can I ever get out if this mess? Tests show I have low elastase

level which indicates pancreatic insuffieciency, and level one yeast infection

of the intestines. Did the coil hurt my intestines and pancrease? Just what is

happening to me. I don't know where else to rant at. I am mad, just not sure at

who. I have suffered so much with these weird abdominal symptoms. Sob. 

> > > > > > > > 

> > > > > > > > Angie. 

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > " Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with the

truth ,and to dare to love completely. " -R. Buckminster Fuller

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

No.

> > > >

> > > > AngieIt sounds like you may need heavy doses of a good probiotic.You

maybe should get Swansons brand probiotics that have 66 billion units of

probiotic per capsule and take 3 times a day.Also a product called Kolorex which

is horopito , and Kandidaplex which is a herbal combinationBetaine HCL with

meals is also helpful with candida.jan

> > > >  One or both of them have ruined my life. I used the coil heavily over

three months for Bartonella and Babesia some three years ago. I was using it

everyday for 10 mins over my liver area for Bartonella. I would get heartburn

after each session, but I thot it was herxing. Since then I have the worst

abdominal symptoms you can think of. I have tried everything and now I am in

such despair over this condition. 

> > > > > 

> > > > > I had taken MMS for about 2 weeks after ending the coil usage. 

> > > > > 

> > > > > Why am I the only one who ever experienced this with the coil? Better

yet how can I ever get out if this mess? Tests show I have low elastase level

which indicates pancreatic insuffieciency, and level one yeast infection of the

intestines. Did the coil hurt my intestines and pancrease? Just what is

happening to me. I don't know where else to rant at. I am mad, just not sure at

who. I have suffered so much with these weird abdominal symptoms. Sob. 

> > > > > 

> > > > > Angie. 

> > > >

> > > > " Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything

> > > >

> > > > really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with the truth

,and to dare to love completely. " -R. Buckminster Fuller

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dr. Jonathon has an excellent reputation! I wonder if he has a website or blog, like Dr. Brownstein does?

I have not had the Heidelburg test, but HCl helps me greatly when I eat animal protein! And I take digestive enzymes every time I eat. Slippery Elm is also helpful with constipation.

Khaya

No.

> > > >

> > > > AngieIt sounds like you may need heavy doses of a good probiotic.You maybe should get Swansons brand probiotics that have 66 billion units of probiotic per capsule and take 3 times a day.Also a product called Kolorex which is horopito , and Kandidaplex which is a herbal combinationBetaine HCL with meals is also helpful with candida.jan

> > > >  One or both of them have ruined my life. I used the coil heavily over three months for Bartonella and Babesia some three years ago. I was using it everyday for 10 mins over my liver area for Bartonella. I would get heartburn after each session, but I thot it was herxing. Since then I have the worst abdominal symptoms you can think of. I have tried everything and now I am in such despair over this condition. 

> > > > > 

> > > > > I had taken MMS for about 2 weeks after ending the coil usage. 

> > > > > 

> > > > > Why am I the only one who ever experienced this with the coil? Better yet how can I ever get out if this mess? Tests show I have low elastase level which indicates pancreatic insuffieciency, and level one yeast infection of the intestines. Did the coil hurt my intestines and pancrease? Just what is happening to me. I don't know where else to rant at. I am mad, just not sure at who. I have suffered so much with these weird abdominal symptoms. Sob. 

> > > > > 

> > > > > Angie. 

> > > >

> > > > " Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything

> > > >

> > > > really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with the truth ,and to dare to love completely. " -R. Buckminster Fuller

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dr does publish his own newsletter, and the only website that I am aware

of is the Tahoma Clinic website. He used to write articles for Prevention

magazine before Rodale press was sold to Big Pharma, when the info used to be

helpful.

> >>>>> > > > >

> >>>>> > > > > AngieIt sounds like you may need heavy doses of a good

> >>>>> probiotic.You maybe should get Swansons brand probiotics that have 66

> >>>>> billion units of probiotic per capsule and take 3 times a day.Also a

> >>>>> product called Kolorex which is horopito , and Kandidaplex which is a

> >>>>> herbal combinationBetaine HCL with meals is also helpful with

candida.jan

> >>>>> > > > >  One or both of them have ruined my life. I used the coil

heavily

> >>>>> over three months for Bartonella and Babesia some three years ago. I was

> >>>>> using it everyday for 10 mins over my liver area for Bartonella. I would

> >>>>> get heartburn after each session, but I thot it was herxing. Since then

I

> >>>>> have the worst abdominal symptoms you can think of. I have tried

> >>>>> everything and now I am in such despair over this condition. 

> >>>>>> > > > > > 

> >>>>>> > > > > > I had taken MMS for about 2 weeks after ending the coil

usage. 

> >>>>>> > > > > > 

> >>>>>> > > > > > Why am I the only one who ever experienced this with the

coil?

> >>>>>> Better yet how can I ever get out if this mess? Tests show I have low

> >>>>>> elastase level which indicates pancreatic insuffieciency, and level one

> >>>>>> yeast infection of the intestines. Did the coil hurt my intestines and

> >>>>>> pancrease? Just what is happening to me. I don't know where else to

rant

> >>>>>> at. I am mad, just not sure at who. I have suffered so much with these

> >>>>>> weird abdominal symptoms. Sob. 

> >>>>>> > > > > > 

> >>>>>> > > > > > Angie. 

> >>>>> > > > >

> >>>>> > > > > " Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything

> >>>>> > > > >

> >>>>> > > > > really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with

the

> >>>>> truth ,and to dare to love completely. " -R. Buckminster Fuller

> >>>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > >

> >>> > >

> >> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Angie,

I have never heard of anyone claiming that rifing or coiling has done damage to

the gut nerves, but this is exactly what dismotility is and it is caused by

spirochete's living in and or consuming the myelin sheath that surrounds the gut

nerves and some if not many with Lyme have this to varying degrees.

And if this is gut dismotility, the solution is going to be pain management... I

was so severely disabled because of my gut pain, it is what I actually got my

SSDI approved, but just two hours after the correct opiate medication, I was out

working in my gardens... Pain takes away your life, pain meds can give it back

to you.

Take care,

Jim

> > > > >

> > > > > AngieIt sounds like you may need heavy doses of a good probiotic.You

maybe should get Swansons brand probiotics that have 66 billion units of

probiotic per capsule and take 3 times a day.Also a product called Kolorex which

is horopito , and Kandidaplex which is a herbal combinationBetaine HCL with

meals is also helpful with candida.jan

> > > > >  One or both of them have ruined my life. I used the coil heavily over

three months for Bartonella and Babesia some three years ago. I was using it

everyday for 10 mins over my liver area for Bartonella. I would get heartburn

after each session, but I thot it was herxing. Since then I have the worst

abdominal symptoms you can think of. I have tried everything and now I am in

such despair over this condition. 

> > > > > > 

> > > > > > I had taken MMS for about 2 weeks after ending the coil usage. 

> > > > > > 

> > > > > > Why am I the only one who ever experienced this with the coil?

Better yet how can I ever get out if this mess? Tests show I have low elastase

level which indicates pancreatic insuffieciency, and level one yeast infection

of the intestines. Did the coil hurt my intestines and pancrease? Just what is

happening to me. I don't know where else to rant at. I am mad, just not sure at

who. I have suffered so much with these weird abdominal symptoms. Sob. 

> > > > > > 

> > > > > > Angie. 

> > > > >

> > > > > " Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything

> > > > >

> > > > > really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with the

truth ,and to dare to love completely. " -R. Buckminster Fuller

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks , that website was easy to find, and there's a whole list of Dr.

's articles, including:

http://tahomaclinicblog.com/the-digestive-theory-of-aging/

> > >>>>> > > > >

> > >>>>> > > > > AngieIt sounds like you may need heavy doses of a good

> > >>>>> probiotic.You maybe should get Swansons brand probiotics that have 66

> > >>>>> billion units of probiotic per capsule and take 3 times a day.Also a

> > >>>>> product called Kolorex which is horopito , and Kandidaplex which is a

> > >>>>> herbal combinationBetaine HCL with meals is also helpful with

candida.jan

> > >>>>> > > > >  One or both of them have ruined my life. I used the coil

heavily

> > >>>>> over three months for Bartonella and Babesia some three years ago. I

was

> > >>>>> using it everyday for 10 mins over my liver area for Bartonella. I

would

> > >>>>> get heartburn after each session, but I thot it was herxing. Since

then I

> > >>>>> have the worst abdominal symptoms you can think of. I have tried

> > >>>>> everything and now I am in such despair over this condition. 

> > >>>>>> > > > > > 

> > >>>>>> > > > > > I had taken MMS for about 2 weeks after ending the coil

usage. 

> > >>>>>> > > > > > 

> > >>>>>> > > > > > Why am I the only one who ever experienced this with the

coil?

> > >>>>>> Better yet how can I ever get out if this mess? Tests show I have low

> > >>>>>> elastase level which indicates pancreatic insuffieciency, and level

one

> > >>>>>> yeast infection of the intestines. Did the coil hurt my intestines

and

> > >>>>>> pancrease? Just what is happening to me. I don't know where else to

rant

> > >>>>>> at. I am mad, just not sure at who. I have suffered so much with

these

> > >>>>>> weird abdominal symptoms. Sob. 

> > >>>>>> > > > > > 

> > >>>>>> > > > > > Angie. 

> > >>>>> > > > >

> > >>>>> > > > > " Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything

> > >>>>> > > > >

> > >>>>> > > > > really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with

the

> > >>>>> truth ,and to dare to love completely. " -R. Buckminster Fuller

> > >>>>> > > > >

> > >>>> > > >

> > >>> > >

> > >> >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Angie,

Yes, an endoscopy exam will see gastritis if it is present.

BE careful, some GI docs recommend the purple pills for this, mine did and my

PCP

advised me to stop taking it... These pills almost eliminate stomach acid, the

very

acid we need to both digest meats and proteins and also to kill pathogens in the

stomach.. My GI doc told me I would have to take it for the rest of my life. He

said

I must have high stomach acid for this to form... Six months later at the Mayo

Clinic,

they told me I have very low stomach acid and this is common for Lymies.

I have gastritis (this is a reddening of the gut wall) and it apparently does

not add

to my pain, no matter what I eat.

Take care,

Jim

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > AngieIt sounds like you may need heavy doses of a good

probiotic.You maybe should get Swansons brand probiotics that have 66 billion

units of probiotic per capsule and take 3 times a day.Also a product called

Kolorex which is horopito , and Kandidaplex which is a herbal combinationBetaine

HCL with meals is also helpful with candida.jan

> > > > > > >  One or both of them have ruined my life. I used the coil heavily

over three months for Bartonella and Babesia some three years ago. I was using

it everyday for 10 mins over my liver area for Bartonella. I would get heartburn

after each session, but I thot it was herxing. Since then I have the worst

abdominal symptoms you can think of. I have tried everything and now I am in

such despair over this condition. 

> > > > > > > > 

> > > > > > > > I had taken MMS for about 2 weeks after ending the coil usage. 

> > > > > > > > 

> > > > > > > > Why am I the only one who ever experienced this with the coil?

Better yet how can I ever get out if this mess? Tests show I have low elastase

level which indicates pancreatic insuffieciency, and level one yeast infection

of the intestines. Did the coil hurt my intestines and pancrease? Just what is

happening to me. I don't know where else to rant at. I am mad, just not sure at

who. I have suffered so much with these weird abdominal symptoms. Sob. 

> > > > > > > > 

> > > > > > > > Angie. 

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > " Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with the

truth ,and to dare to love completely. " -R. Buckminster Fuller

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>