RE: ibuprofen/anti-inflammation

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We go to see Dr. G today and that is one of my questions. How much and how

often. The good news is that the regular blood work Dr. G does should highlight

any problems. Noah takes famvir, Diflucan, paxil, Tenex and Zyrtec. I, too, was

reluctant to add anything else, but after seeing the pictures he was drawing at

school, I decided to give it a try. All of his pics of himself had band aids on

his head After a week of unpredictable and bizarre behavior with lots of

agitation, I decided to give it a try: 200mg in the morning. He had a great week

at school. It could be coincidence, but I don't think so.

All the best,

Robyn

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Better than pain.  It seems like a lot of meds, but they really helped my kids

soooo much.  Sometimes I had to give regular tylenol.  Their liver profiles

improved on the meds (especially diflucan, which is technically supposed to be

rough on the liver), the way the looked improved.  I had many times that I felt

horrified at all the meds I was pumping in their little bodies, but then I would

remember the immediate gains, how one's anemia improved almost immediately

(after trying to treat for a year) on the meds, how their labs normalized, how

they perked up and got more energy and brighter eyes.... and my fear would ease

up.\

HTH

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From: Bekele <bekeleelizabeth@...>

Sent: Friday, March 6, 2009 12:50:05 AM

Subject: ibuprofen/anti-inflammation

Robyn,

Do you give Noah the advil every morning?? and has he been taking it for a long

time? I've been tempted to give Joab motrin every day for his pain but am afraid

it's too much medication(famvir, septra,claritin, now on nizoral) so i've not

been doing it all the time.  Dr. G. said to do once or even twice/day if he

seems to be in pain.  I gave it to him around the 1st time we started famvir,

but haven't lately?? I don't feel comfortable about the daily dose???? what do

you think?

thanks

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > From: Bekele

> > > <bekeleelizabeth@

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Puzzling

> New

> > > Behaviors

> > > > > > > groups (DOT) com

> > > > > > > Date: Friday, February 27,

> 2009, 3:10

> > > PM

> > > > > > > Robyn,

> > > > > > > Joab had a fluid in the left

> ear on our

> > > 1st

> > > > > visit,

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I have to cut in here...I do have some qualms about

using NSAIDS for a long period of time. Tylenol is

notorious for being extremely hard on the liver. And

Advil (Ibuprofen) less so but it is still an issue. I

know our kiddos livers are checked regularly but once

they are damaged you its hard (if not impossible to go

back) and they get fatty livers or other damage. Its

important to find out what the underlying trigger may

be in these kids that are causing an inflammatory

reaction.

Hope this helps someone

--- <thecolemans4@...> wrote:

> Better than pain.  It seems like a lot of meds, but

> they really helped my kids soooo much.  Sometimes I

> had to give regular tylenol.  Their liver profiles

> improved on the meds (especially diflucan, which is

> technically supposed to be rough on the liver), the

> way the looked improved.  I had many times that I

> felt horrified at all the meds I was pumping in

> their little bodies, but then I would remember the

> immediate gains, how one's anemia improved almost

> immediately (after trying to treat for a year) on

> the meds, how their labs normalized, how they perked

> up and got more energy and brighter eyes.... and my

> fear would ease up.\

> HTH

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Bekele <bekeleelizabeth@...>

>

> Sent: Friday, March 6, 2009 12:50:05 AM

> Subject: ibuprofen/anti-inflammation

>

>

> Robyn,

> Do you give Noah the advil every morning?? and has

> he been taking it for a long time? I've been tempted

> to give Joab motrin every day for his pain but am

> afraid it's too much medication(famvir,

> septra,claritin, now on nizoral) so i've not been

> doing it all the time.  Dr. G. said to do once or

> even twice/day if he seems to be in pain.  I gave it

> to him around the 1st time we started famvir, but

> haven't lately?? I don't feel comfortable about the

> daily dose???? what do you think?

> thanks

>

>

>

>

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I couldn't agree with you more about finding out the underlying cause that

is causing the inflammation. But what if we can help our kiddos brain

function better by increasing blood as an effect of reduced brain

inflammation? What if we can help their guts heal by reducing the

inflammation that is damaging their gut walls? What if we can help the

immune system cool down by not allowing it to create inflammatory

substances? What if we can accelerate our children's recovery? I am

concerned about my son's liver too and I give him LiverCare daily and run

lab tests every 6 weeks to make sure he is healthy, but how much more

dangerous can Ibuprofen be to the liver compare to Diflucan or Nizoral? And

all of us do it on a daily basis and some parents have been doing it for

years.

What it has worked for us is to do 10 days of Ibuprofen then stop for 20

days, then do it for 10 more days and then stop for 20 day and so on. In my

mind this protocol is not as hard to the liver as giving him Diflucan every

single day.

JR

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

Hankinson

Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 8:50 PM

Subject: Re: ibuprofen/anti-inflammation

I have to cut in here...I do have some qualms about

using NSAIDS for a long period of time. Tylenol is

notorious for being extremely hard on the liver. And

Advil (Ibuprofen) less so but it is still an issue. I

know our kiddos livers are checked regularly but once

they are damaged you its hard (if not impossible to go

back) and they get fatty livers or other damage. Its

important to find out what the underlying trigger may

be in these kids that are causing an inflammatory

reaction.

Hope this helps someone

--- <thecolemans4@...

<mailto:thecolemans4%40> > wrote:

> Better than pain. It seems like a lot of meds, but

> they really helped my kids soooo much. Sometimes I

> had to give regular tylenol. Their liver profiles

> improved on the meds (especially diflucan, which is

> technically supposed to be rough on the liver), the

> way the looked improved. I had many times that I

> felt horrified at all the meds I was pumping in

> their little bodies, but then I would remember the

> immediate gains, how one's anemia improved almost

> immediately (after trying to treat for a year) on

> the meds, how their labs normalized, how they perked

> up and got more energy and brighter eyes.... and my

> fear would ease up.\

> HTH

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Bekele <bekeleelizabeth@...

<mailto:bekeleelizabeth%40> >

> <mailto:%40>

> Sent: Friday, March 6, 2009 12:50:05 AM

> Subject: ibuprofen/anti-inflammation

>

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> Robyn,

> Do you give Noah the advil every morning?? and has

> he been taking it for a long time? I've been tempted

> to give Joab motrin every day for his pain but am

> afraid it's too much medication(famvir,

> septra,claritin, now on nizoral) so i've not been

> doing it all the time. Dr. G. said to do once or

> even twice/day if he seems to be in pain. I gave it

> to him around the 1st time we started famvir, but

> haven't lately?? I don't feel comfortable about the

> daily dose???? what do you think?

> thanks

>

>

>

>

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Hello ,

You mentioned LiverCare. Is that like Liver Life? & does Dr.G. approve of it? 

I've asked him once about " milk thistle " & he didn't seem to worry about that

kind of stuff atleast for now. 

Thank you & God bless

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From: bekeleelizabeth@...

Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 21:01:00 -0800

Subject: RE: ibuprofen/anti-inflammation

Hello ,

You mentioned LiverCare. Is that like Liver Life? & does Dr.G. approve of it?

I've asked him once about " milk thistle " & he didn't seem to worry about that

kind of stuff atleast for now.

Thank you & God bless

>

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I am glad this helps you but personally I am tired of

using supps that dont work, may be impure, and arent

proven to work.

Also, I trust Dr. and the Protocol. It

gets kids better. I don't want to stray from their

advice. They have done a great job with my kid thus

far.

-

--- <jrodrig6605@...> wrote:

> I couldn't agree with you more about finding out the

> underlying cause that

> is causing the inflammation. But what if we can

> help our kiddos brain

> function better by increasing blood as an effect of

> reduced brain

> inflammation? What if we can help their guts heal

> by reducing the

> inflammation that is damaging their gut walls? What

> if we can help the

> immune system cool down by not allowing it to create

> inflammatory

> substances? What if we can accelerate our

> children's recovery? I am

> concerned about my son's liver too and I give him

> LiverCare daily and run

> lab tests every 6 weeks to make sure he is healthy,

> but how much more

> dangerous can Ibuprofen be to the liver compare to

> Diflucan or Nizoral? And

> all of us do it on a daily basis and some parents

> have been doing it for

> years.

>

>

>

> What it has worked for us is to do 10 days of

> Ibuprofen then stop for 20

> days, then do it for 10 more days and then stop for

> 20 day and so on. In my

> mind this protocol is not as hard to the liver as

> giving him Diflucan every

> single day.

>

>

>

> JR

>

>

>

> From:

> [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

> Hankinson

> Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 8:50 PM

>

> Subject: Re: ibuprofen/anti-inflammation

>

>

>

>

> I have to cut in here...I do have some qualms about

> using NSAIDS for a long period of time. Tylenol is

> notorious for being extremely hard on the liver. And

> Advil (Ibuprofen) less so but it is still an issue.

> I

> know our kiddos livers are checked regularly but

> once

> they are damaged you its hard (if not impossible to

> go

> back) and they get fatty livers or other damage. Its

> important to find out what the underlying trigger

> may

> be in these kids that are causing an inflammatory

> reaction.

>

> Hope this helps someone

>

>

> --- <thecolemans4@...

> <mailto:thecolemans4%40> > wrote:

>

> > Better than pain. It seems like a lot of meds,

> but

> > they really helped my kids soooo much. Sometimes

> I

> > had to give regular tylenol. Their liver profiles

> > improved on the meds (especially diflucan, which

> is

> > technically supposed to be rough on the liver),

> the

> > way the looked improved. I had many times that I

> > felt horrified at all the meds I was pumping in

> > their little bodies, but then I would remember the

> > immediate gains, how one's anemia improved almost

> > immediately (after trying to treat for a year) on

> > the meds, how their labs normalized, how they

> perked

> > up and got more energy and brighter eyes.... and

> my

> > fear would ease up.\

> > HTH

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: Bekele <bekeleelizabeth@...

> <mailto:bekeleelizabeth%40> >

> >

> <mailto:%40>

> > Sent: Friday, March 6, 2009 12:50:05 AM

> > Subject: ibuprofen/anti-inflammation

> >

> >

> > Robyn,

> > Do you give Noah the advil every morning?? and has

> > he been taking it for a long time? I've been

> tempted

> > to give Joab motrin every day for his pain but am

> > afraid it's too much medication(famvir,

> > septra,claritin, now on nizoral) so i've not been

> > doing it all the time. Dr. G. said to do once or

> > even twice/day if he seems to be in pain. I gave

> it

> > to him around the 1st time we started famvir, but

> > haven't lately?? I don't feel comfortable about

> the

> > daily dose???? what do you think?

> > thanks

> >

> >

> >

> > > >

> > > > > From:

> > > <jrodrig6605@ hotmail.com>

> > > > > Subject: Re: Puzzling New Behaviors

> > > > > groups (DOT) com

> > > > > Date: Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 10:42 PM

> > > > > Please show Dr. G the following article from

> > the

> > > > Official

> > > > > Journal of the American Academy of

> Pediatrics.

> > > > >

> > > > > Cerebrospinal Fluid Distribution of

> Ibuprofen

> > > > After

> > > > > Intravenous Administration in Children

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > http://pediatrics. aappublications.

> > org/cgi/content/ full/120/ 4/e1002

> > > > >

> > > > > BACKGROUND. Ibuprofen is the most commonly

> > used

> > > > > nonsteroidal, antipyretic, antiinflammatory

> > > > analgesic in

> > > > > children. Nonsteroidal, antipyretic,

> > > > antiinflammatory

> > > > > analgesics act in both the peripheral

> tissues

> > and

> > > > the

> > > > > central nervous system. The central nervous

> > > system

>

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I also follow the protocol with Dr. G and it has worked great for us.

I told Dr. G last month when we flew in to his office about how Ibuprofen

has been the medication that has given us the biggest improvements every

time we give to our son. I was thinking that he was going to bite my head

off when I told him, but I wanted to be honest with him. He didn't bite my

head off and he said that Ibuprofen might do work, but that he doesn't

prescribe it because parents might misuse it and can cause gastric issues.

He didn't tell me to stop it and he did give us complements on how well our

son is doing and was very pleased by it. Reducing inflammation doesn't go

against the protocol, is just that the right medications for our kids

hasn't been developed yet.

JR

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

Hankinson

Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 7:40 AM

Subject: RE: ibuprofen/anti-inflammation

I am glad this helps you but personally I am tired of

using supps that dont work, may be impure, and arent

proven to work.

Also, I trust Dr. and the Protocol. It

gets kids better. I don't want to stray from their

advice. They have done a great job with my kid thus

far.

-

--- <jrodrig6605@...

<mailto:jrodrig6605%40hotmail.com> > wrote:

> I couldn't agree with you more about finding out the

> underlying cause that

> is causing the inflammation. But what if we can

> help our kiddos brain

> function better by increasing blood as an effect of

> reduced brain

> inflammation? What if we can help their guts heal

> by reducing the

> inflammation that is damaging their gut walls? What

> if we can help the

> immune system cool down by not allowing it to create

> inflammatory

> substances? What if we can accelerate our

> children's recovery? I am

> concerned about my son's liver too and I give him

> LiverCare daily and run

> lab tests every 6 weeks to make sure he is healthy,

> but how much more

> dangerous can Ibuprofen be to the liver compare to

> Diflucan or Nizoral? And

> all of us do it on a daily basis and some parents

> have been doing it for

> years.

>

>

>

> What it has worked for us is to do 10 days of

> Ibuprofen then stop for 20

> days, then do it for 10 more days and then stop for

> 20 day and so on. In my

> mind this protocol is not as hard to the liver as

> giving him Diflucan every

> single day.

>

>

>

> JR

>

>

>

> From: <mailto:%40>

> [mailto: <mailto:%40> ] On Behalf

Of

> Hankinson

> Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 8:50 PM

> <mailto:%40>

> Subject: Re: ibuprofen/anti-inflammation

>

>

>

>

> I have to cut in here...I do have some qualms about

> using NSAIDS for a long period of time. Tylenol is

> notorious for being extremely hard on the liver. And

> Advil (Ibuprofen) less so but it is still an issue.

> I

> know our kiddos livers are checked regularly but

> once

> they are damaged you its hard (if not impossible to

> go

> back) and they get fatty livers or other damage. Its

> important to find out what the underlying trigger

> may

> be in these kids that are causing an inflammatory

> reaction.

>

> Hope this helps someone

>

>

> --- <thecolemans4@...

<mailto:thecolemans4%40>

> <mailto:thecolemans4%40> > wrote:

>

> > Better than pain. It seems like a lot of meds,

> but

> > they really helped my kids soooo much. Sometimes

> I

> > had to give regular tylenol. Their liver profiles

> > improved on the meds (especially diflucan, which

> is

> > technically supposed to be rough on the liver),

> the

> > way the looked improved. I had many times that I

> > felt horrified at all the meds I was pumping in

> > their little bodies, but then I would remember the

> > immediate gains, how one's anemia improved almost

> > immediately (after trying to treat for a year) on

> > the meds, how their labs normalized, how they

> perked

> > up and got more energy and brighter eyes.... and

> my

> > fear would ease up.\

> > HTH

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: Bekele <bekeleelizabeth@...

<mailto:bekeleelizabeth%40>

> <mailto:bekeleelizabeth%40> >

> > <mailto:%40>

> <mailto:%40>

> > Sent: Friday, March 6, 2009 12:50:05 AM

> > Subject: ibuprofen/anti-inflammation

> >

> >

> > Robyn,

> > Do you give Noah the advil every morning?? and has

> > he been taking it for a long time? I've been

> tempted

> > to give Joab motrin every day for his pain but am

> > afraid it's too much medication(famvir,

> > septra,claritin, now on nizoral) so i've not been

> > doing it all the time. Dr. G. said to do once or

> > even twice/day if he seems to be in pain. I gave

> it

> > to him around the 1st time we started famvir, but

> > haven't lately?? I don't feel comfortable about

> the

> > daily dose???? what do you think?

> > thanks

> >

> >

> >

> > > >

> > > > > From:

> > > <jrodrig6605@ hotmail.com>

> > > > > Subject: Re: Puzzling New Behaviors

> > > > > groups (DOT) com

> > > > > Date: Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 10:42 PM

> > > > > Please show Dr. G the following article from

> > the

> > > > Official

> > > > > Journal of the American Academy of

> Pediatrics.

> > > > >

> > > > > Cerebrospinal Fluid Distribution of

> Ibuprofen

> > > > After

> > > > > Intravenous Administration in Children

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > http://pediatrics. aappublications.

> > org/cgi/content/ full/120/ 4/e1002

> > > > >

> > > > > BACKGROUND. Ibuprofen is the most commonly

> > used

> > > > > nonsteroidal, antipyretic, antiinflammatory

> > > > analgesic in

> > > > > children. Nonsteroidal, antipyretic,

> > > > antiinflammatory

> > > > > analgesics act in both the peripheral

> tissues

> > and

> > > > the

> > > > > central nervous system. The central nervous

> > > system

>

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We saw Dr. G on Friday and I asked him about the ibuprofen. His goal, he said,

would be to eliminate the cause of the inflammation, but until Noah's immune

system is more normalized, giving ibuprofen in the morning is fine if it

continues to help. We really do notice a difference. It seems to prevent the

headaches. For the first time in about a week, we didn't give it to him

yesterday, and he had a headache in the afternoon. Of course, everyone should

check with their physician since every child is different.

HTH,

Robyn

> > > > >

> > > > > > From:

> > > > <jrodrig6605@ hotmail.com>

> > > > > > Subject: Re: Puzzling New

> Behaviors

> > > > > > groups (DOT) com

> > > > > > Date: Wednesday, March 4, 2009,

> 10:42 PM

> > > > > > Please show Dr. G the following

> article from

> > > the

> > > > > Official

> > > > > > Journal of the American Academy of

> > Pediatrics.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Cerebrospinal Fluid Distribution

> of

> > Ibuprofen

> > > > > After

> > > > > > Intravenous Administration in

> Children

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > http://pediatrics. aappublications.

> > > org/cgi/content/ full/120/ 4/e1002

> > > > > >

> > > > > > BACKGROUND. Ibuprofen is the most

> commonly

> > > used

> > > > > > nonsteroidal, antipyretic,

> antiinflammatory

> > > > > analgesic in

> > > > > > children. Nonsteroidal,

> antipyretic,

> > > > > antiinflammatory

> > > > > > analgesics act in both the

> peripheral

> > tissues

> > > and

> > > > > the

> > > > > > central nervous system. The

> central nervous

> > > > system

> >

> === message truncated ===

>

> May the Lord bless you and keep you!

>

> Visit my blog

>

> http://bloominwhereyourplanted.blogspot.com/

>

>

>

>

>

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