Re: HBOT has antiviral effect

March 18, 2009

HBOT is another treatment Dr. G opposes. Wondering why???

Kristy

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

Neno/Natasa

Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 6:32 AM

Subject: HBOT has antiviral effect

J Assoc Nurses AIDS Care. 1996 Jan-Feb;7(1):43-5.

HIV antiviral effects of hyperbaric oxygen therapy.

Reillo MR, Altieri RJ. Lifeforce Hyperbaric Medical Clinic,

Baltimore, MD, USA.

Researchers have speculated that hyperbaric oxygen (HBO) therapy has an

antiviral effect in HIV infection. To determine HBO's antiviral effect, the

authors performed ex vivo and in vivo quantitative assays on HIV-infected

plasma and peripheral blood mononuclear cells (PBMCs) at baseline and after

treatment. The authors also HBO-treated uninfected PBMCs and then exposed

them to HIV at ambient pressure. HIV viral load was decreased in the

infected cells, and few viruses entered uninfected PBMCs exposed to HBO. The

results of this study support the theory that HBO has an antiviral effect.

PMID: 8825180

A hypothesis out there on high pressure bursting viral envelope and

disintegrating the virus.... (could be why it works in autism,

herpesviruses, retroviruses etc are all enveloped ones...). Remember stuff I

posted yesterday about chelation of metals bursting/desintegrating the

virus?? Getting very interesting, all this...

March 18, 2009

In this practice, he's seen kids who've had HBOT and their SPECT scans show

hyperperfusion in most if not all areas of the brain, which can be as bad as

hypo.

HTH,

Robyn

> From: Kristy Nardini <knardini@...>

> Subject: RE: HBOT has antiviral effect

>

> Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2009, 9:30 AM

> HBOT is another treatment Dr. G opposes. Wondering why???

>

> Kristy

>

> From: [mailto: ] On

> Behalf Of

> Neno/Natasa

> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 6:32 AM

>

> Subject: HBOT has antiviral effect

>

> J Assoc Nurses AIDS Care. 1996 Jan-Feb;7(1):43-5.

>

> HIV antiviral effects of hyperbaric oxygen therapy.

> Reillo MR, Altieri RJ. Lifeforce Hyperbaric Medical Clinic,

> Baltimore, MD, USA.

>

> Researchers have speculated that hyperbaric oxygen (HBO)

> therapy has an

> antiviral effect in HIV infection. To determine HBO's

> antiviral effect, the

> authors performed ex vivo and in vivo quantitative assays

> on HIV-infected

> plasma and peripheral blood mononuclear cells (PBMCs) at

> baseline and after

> treatment. The authors also HBO-treated uninfected PBMCs

> and then exposed

> them to HIV at ambient pressure. HIV viral load was

> decreased in the

> infected cells, and few viruses entered uninfected PBMCs

> exposed to HBO. The

> results of this study support the theory that HBO has an

> antiviral effect.

> PMID: 8825180

>

> A hypothesis out there on high pressure bursting viral

> envelope and

> disintegrating the virus.... (could be why it works in

> autism,

> herpesviruses, retroviruses etc are all enveloped ones...).

> Remember stuff I

> posted yesterday about chelation of metals

> bursting/desintegrating the

> virus?? Getting very interesting, all this...

>

March 18, 2009

And irreversible. Also, too much O2 can create excess

free radicals.

-

--- Robyn & Greg Coggins <rngcoggs@...>

wrote:

>

> In this practice, he's seen kids who've had HBOT and

> their SPECT scans show hyperperfusion in most if not

> all areas of the brain, which can be as bad as hypo.

>

> HTH,

>

> Robyn

>

> > From: Kristy Nardini <knardini@...>

> > Subject: RE: HBOT has antiviral effect

> >

> > Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2009, 9:30 AM

> > HBOT is another treatment Dr. G opposes. Wondering

> why???

> >

> > Kristy

> >

> > From:

> [mailto: ] On

> > Behalf Of

> > Neno/Natasa

> > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 6:32 AM

> >

> > Subject: HBOT has antiviral effect

> >

> > J Assoc Nurses AIDS Care. 1996 Jan-Feb;7(1):43-5.

> >

> > HIV antiviral effects of hyperbaric oxygen

> therapy.

> > Reillo MR, Altieri RJ. Lifeforce Hyperbaric

> Medical Clinic,

> > Baltimore, MD, USA.

> >

> > Researchers have speculated that hyperbaric oxygen

> (HBO)

> > therapy has an

> > antiviral effect in HIV infection. To determine

> HBO's

> > antiviral effect, the

> > authors performed ex vivo and in vivo quantitative

> assays

> > on HIV-infected

> > plasma and peripheral blood mononuclear cells

> (PBMCs) at

> > baseline and after

> > treatment. The authors also HBO-treated uninfected

> PBMCs

> > and then exposed

> > them to HIV at ambient pressure. HIV viral load

> was

> > decreased in the

> > infected cells, and few viruses entered uninfected

> PBMCs

> > exposed to HBO. The

> > results of this study support the theory that HBO

> has an

> > antiviral effect.

> > PMID: 8825180

> >

> > A hypothesis out there on high pressure bursting

> viral

> > envelope and

> > disintegrating the virus.... (could be why it

> works in

> > autism,

> > herpesviruses, retroviruses etc are all enveloped

> ones...).

> > Remember stuff I

> > posted yesterday about chelation of metals

> > bursting/desintegrating the

> > virus?? Getting very interesting, all this...

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

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March 19, 2009

What do you mean when you say 'and irreversible'?

In a message dated 18/03/2009 21:56:11 GMT Standard Time, jlhank80@...

writes:

And irreversible. Also, too much O2 can create excess

free radicals.

-

--- Robyn & Greg Coggins <_rngcoggs@..._

(mailto:rngcoggs@...) >

wrote:

>

> In this practice, he's seen kids who've had HBOT and

> their SPECT scans show hyperperfusion in most if not

> all areas of the brain, which can be as bad as hypo.

>

> HTH,

>

> Robyn

>

> > From: Kristy Nardini <_knardini@roadrunnerknar_

(mailto:knardini@...) >

> > Subject: RE: HBOT has antiviral effect

> > _@..._ (mailto: )

> > Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2009, 9:30 AM

> > HBOT is another treatment Dr. G opposes. Wondering

> why???

> >

> > Kristy

> >

> > From: _@..._ (mailto: )

> [mailto:_@..._ (mailto: ) ] On

> > Behalf Of

> > Neno/Natasa

> > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 6:32 AM

> > _@..._ (mailto: )

> > Subject: HBOT has antiviral effect

> >

> > J Assoc Nurses AIDS Care. 1996 Jan-Feb;7(1) J Ass

> >

> > HIV antiviral effects of hyperbaric oxygen

> therapy.

> > Reillo MR, Altieri RJ. Lifeforce Hyperbaric

> Medical Clinic,

> > Baltimore, MD, USA.

> >

> > Researchers have speculated that hyperbaric oxygen

> (HBO)

> > therapy has an

> > antiviral effect in HIV infection. To determine

> HBO's

> > antiviral effect, the

> > authors performed ex vivo and in vivo quantitative

> assays

> > on HIV-infected

> > plasma and peripheral blood mononuclear cells

> (PBMCs) at

> > baseline and after

> > treatment. The authors also HBO-treated uninfected

> PBMCs

> > and then exposed

> > them to HIV at ambient pressure. HIV viral load

> was

> > decreased in the

> > infected cells, and few viruses entered uninfected

> PBMCs

> > exposed to HBO. The

> > results of this study support the theory that HBO

> has an

> > antiviral effect.

> > PMID: 8825180

> >

> > A hypothesis out there on high pressure bursting

> viral

> > envelope and

> > disintegrating the virus.... (could be why it

> works in

> > autism,

> > herpesviruses, retroviruses etc are all enveloped

> ones...).

> > Remember stuff I

> > posted yesterday about chelation of metals

> > bursting/desintegra burstin

> > virus?? Getting very interesting, all this...

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

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March 19, 2009

If the underlying pathology that results in autism has self limited, and I

am convinced that it does in a subgroup, and the child has no more

inflammation in their brain, then theoretically this could help. That would

explain the

anecdotes that are on the web and in books. Of course the rest of the

children who still have the chronic condition will at best, not be helped, and

the

worst case is that they will be further damaged.

E. on RN, MSN

NNY Autism Center

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March 19, 2009

>

> yes kathy, that makes sense and fits what I'm hearing from parents and few

> doctors kids who do best on hbot, with permanent results, are the ones

> further down the road on recovery.

>

> I've also heard lots of cases of improvements with more affected kids, but

> more often that not the improvements are very short lived.

>

> natasa

>

> If the underlying pathology that results in autism has self limited, and I

> am convinced that it does in a subgroup, and the child has no more

> inflammation in their brain, then theoretically this could help. That would

> explain the

> anecdotes that are on the web and in books. Of course the rest of the

> children who still have the chronic condition will at best, not be helped,

> and the

> worst case is that they will be further damaged.

>

> E. on RN, MSN

> NNY Autism Center

> **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or

> less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001)

>

March 19, 2009

We did 40 sessions of HBOT 2 months before my son became Dr. Gs patient. We did

a brain SPECT scan after the 40 sessions and he had profound hypoperfusion in

the temporal and frontal lobes. He also showed reduced blood flow in basically

every area of his brain. The doctor who did the scan (Dr. Uszler) said that my

son had brain inflammation and he was the one who referred us to Dr. G. I

would have thought that after the HBOT that he was going to show improvements,

but he didn't improve. My son only could put 2 words together just after he did

the HBOT (3 1/2 years old at the time), completely spaced out, lots of stimming

behaviors, yeast, bacteria, repetitive behaviors, etc... he was diagnosed with

moderate autism back then when he as 2 1/2 years old.

Now after 8 months of being in the protocol, taking high dose probiotics

and doing high dose Ibuprofen therapy we repeated the brain SPECT scan. This

time his brain's blood flow was normal, he only had residual (very little)

hypoperfusion remaining and the doctor said that the brain inflammation was

reduced by 75% compared to the first brain SPECT scan. The doctor was impressed

with my little guy.

Now my son's autism diagnosed was removed by the same developmental pediatrician

that diagnosed him. He no longer qualifies for special education and he is no

longer labeled as a child with speech impairments.

He still needs to improve, but he is recovering so fast. Dr. G even told me

that he is 90% recovered.

I wrote all this because I want to say that I believe that HBOT is not

benefitial if the root cause of the inflammation which causes the reduction of

blood is not corrected first. My son's brain blood flow got better by treating

his immune system and not by the HBOT.

Doing the HBOT is also very stressful and time consuming specially when we have

full time jobs.

JR

From: JOSKAT95@...

Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:08:49 -0400

Subject: Re: HBOT has antiviral effect

If the underlying pathology that results in autism has self limited, and I

am convinced that it does in a subgroup, and the child has no more

inflammation in their brain, then theoretically this could help. That would

explain the

anecdotes that are on the web and in books. Of course the rest of the

children who still have the chronic condition will at best, not be helped, and

the

worst case is that they will be further damaged.

E. on RN, MSN

NNY Autism Center

**************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or

less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001)

March 19, 2009

It all depends on the depth and some children show improvements many weeks after

the HBOT. IF a child has yeast and other issues the depth needs to be changed. I

suggest that you do the protocol and HBOT together. We have had great success in

100's of cases including my three daughters.

I disagree with some of the depths and times that some centers are treating

children. Every case is different.

Anti fungal and some a/b for gut infections plus diet change and HBOT seems to

be very positive from what I have seen.

My daughters had 10 spect scans each. Each one showed a huge improvement in

blood flow, sz stopped and my non verbal daughter is now very verbal and 21

years old. we had HBOT in 1991.

Re: HBOT has antiviral effect

If the underlying pathology that results in autism has self limited, and I

am convinced that it does in a subgroup, and the child has no more

inflammation in their brain, then theoretically this could help. That would

explain the

anecdotes that are on the web and in books. Of course the rest of the

children who still have the chronic condition will at best, not be helped, and

the

worst case is that they will be further damaged.

E. on RN, MSN

NNY Autism Center

**************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or

less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001)

March 20, 2009

Thats great! Thank you so much for sharing!

-

--- <jrodrig6605@...> wrote:

>

> We did 40 sessions of HBOT 2 months before my son

> became Dr. Gs patient. We did a brain SPECT scan

> after the 40 sessions and he had profound

> hypoperfusion in the temporal and frontal lobes. He

> also showed reduced blood flow in basically every

> area of his brain. The doctor who did the scan (Dr.

> Uszler) said that my son had brain inflammation and

> he was the one who referred us to Dr. G. I would

> have thought that after the HBOT that he was going

> to show improvements, but he didn't improve. My son

> only could put 2 words together just after he did

> the HBOT (3 1/2 years old at the time), completely

> spaced out, lots of stimming behaviors, yeast,

> bacteria, repetitive behaviors, etc... he was

> diagnosed with moderate autism back then when he as

> 2 1/2 years old.

>

> Now after 8 months of being in the protocol,

> taking high dose probiotics and doing high dose

> Ibuprofen therapy we repeated the brain SPECT scan.

> This time his brain's blood flow was normal, he only

> had residual (very little) hypoperfusion remaining

> and the doctor said that the brain inflammation was

> reduced by 75% compared to the first brain SPECT

> scan. The doctor was impressed with my little guy.

>

> Now my son's autism diagnosed was removed by the

> same developmental pediatrician that diagnosed him.

> He no longer qualifies for special education and he

> is no longer labeled as a child with speech

> impairments.

>

> He still needs to improve, but he is recovering so

> fast. Dr. G even told me that he is 90% recovered.

>

> I wrote all this because I want to say that I

> believe that HBOT is not benefitial if the root

> cause of the inflammation which causes the reduction

> of blood is not corrected first. My son's brain

> blood flow got better by treating his immune system

> and not by the HBOT.

>

> Doing the HBOT is also very stressful and time

> consuming specially when we have full time jobs.

>

> JR

>

> From: JOSKAT95@...

> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:08:49 -0400

> Subject: Re: HBOT has antiviral effect

>

> If the underlying pathology that results in autism

> has self limited, and I

> am convinced that it does in a subgroup, and the

> child has no more

> inflammation in their brain, then theoretically this

> could help. That would explain the

> anecdotes that are on the web and in books. Of

> course the rest of the

> children who still have the chronic condition will

> at best, not be helped, and the

> worst case is that they will be further damaged.

>

> E. on RN, MSN

> NNY Autism Center

> **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery

> store? Make dinner for $10 or

> less.

>

(http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001)

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

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March 20, 2009

If the brain gets hyperperfused, how do you reverse

that? That is and can be an issue.

--- goldsmull@... wrote:

>

> What do you mean when you say 'and irreversible'?

>

> In a message dated 18/03/2009 21:56:11 GMT Standard

> Time, jlhank80@...

> writes:

>

> And irreversible. Also, too much O2 can create

> excess

> free radicals.

>

> -

>

> --- Robyn & Greg Coggins <_rngcoggs@..._

> (mailto:rngcoggs@...) >

> wrote:

>

> >

> > In this practice, he's seen kids who've had HBOT

> and

> > their SPECT scans show hyperperfusion in most if

> not

> > all areas of the brain, which can be as bad as

> hypo.

> >

> > HTH,

> >

> > Robyn

> >

> > > From: Kristy Nardini <_knardini@roadrunnerknar_

> (mailto:knardini@...) >

> > > Subject: RE: HBOT has antiviral effect

> > > _@..._

> (mailto: )

> > > Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2009, 9:30 AM

> > > HBOT is another treatment Dr. G opposes.

> Wondering

> > why???

> > >

> > > Kristy

> > >

> > > From: _@..._

> (mailto: )

> > [mailto:_@..._

> (mailto: ) ] On

> > > Behalf Of

> > > Neno/Natasa

> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 6:32 AM

> > > _@..._

> (mailto: )

> > > Subject: HBOT has antiviral effect

> > >

> > > J Assoc Nurses AIDS Care. 1996 Jan-Feb;7(1) J

> Ass

> > >

> > > HIV antiviral effects of hyperbaric oxygen

> > therapy.

> > > Reillo MR, Altieri RJ. Lifeforce Hyperbaric

> > Medical Clinic,

> > > Baltimore, MD, USA.

> > >

> > > Researchers have speculated that hyperbaric

> oxygen

> > (HBO)

> > > therapy has an

> > > antiviral effect in HIV infection. To determine

> > HBO's

> > > antiviral effect, the

> > > authors performed ex vivo and in vivo

> quantitative

> > assays

> > > on HIV-infected

> > > plasma and peripheral blood mononuclear cells

> > (PBMCs) at

> > > baseline and after

> > > treatment. The authors also HBO-treated

> uninfected

> > PBMCs

> > > and then exposed

> > > them to HIV at ambient pressure. HIV viral load

> > was

> > > decreased in the

> > > infected cells, and few viruses entered

> uninfected

> > PBMCs

> > > exposed to HBO. The

> > > results of this study support the theory that

> HBO

> > has an

> > > antiviral effect.

> > > PMID: 8825180

> > >

> > > A hypothesis out there on high pressure bursting

> > viral

> > > envelope and

> > > disintegrating the virus.... (could be why it

> > works in

> > > autism,

> > > herpesviruses, retroviruses etc are all

> enveloped

> > ones...).

> > > Remember stuff I

> > > posted yesterday about chelation of metals

> > > bursting/desintegra burstin

> > > virus?? Getting very interesting, all this...

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

>

> May the Lord bless you and keep you!

>

> Visit my blog

>

> _http://bloominwherehttp://bloomhttp://blhttp_

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>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

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>

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March 20, 2009

I still don't get this!

In a message dated 20/03/2009 16:46:02 GMT Standard Time, jlhank80@...

writes:

If the brain gets hyperperfused, how do you reverse

that? That is and can be an issue.

--- _goldsmull@..._ (mailto:goldsmull@...) wrote:

>

> What do you mean when you say 'and irreversible'

>

> In a message dated 18/03/2009 21:56:11 GMT Standard

> Time, _jlhank80@..._ (mailto:jlhank80@...)

> writes:

>

> And irreversible. Also, too much O2 can create

> excess

> free radicals.

>

> -

>

> --- Robyn & Greg Coggins <__rngcoggs@sbcglobal_rng_

(mailto:_rngcoggs@...) _

> (mailto:_rngcoggs@..._ (mailto:rngcoggs@...) ) >

> wrote:

>

> >

> > In this practice, he's seen kids who've had HBOT

> and

> > their SPECT scans show hyperperfusion in most if

> not

> > all areas of the brain, which can be as bad as

> hypo.

> >

> > HTH,

> >

> > Robyn

> >

> > --- On Wed, 3/18/09, Kristy Nardini

> > <_knardini@roadrunn_knardi

> (mailto:_knardini@roadrunnerknar_ (mailto:knardini@...) ) >

wrote:

> >

> > > From: Kristy Nardini <_knardini@roadrunn_knardin

> (mailto:_knardini@roadrunnerknar_ (mailto:knardini@...) ) >

> > > Subject: RE: HBOT has antiviral effect

> > > __groups (DOT) _NI_ (mailto:_@...) _

> (mailto:_@..._ (mailto: ) )

> > > Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2009, 9:30 AM

> > > HBOT is another treatment Dr. G opposes.

> Wondering

> > why???

> > >

> > > Kristy

> > >

> > > From: __groups (DOT) _NI_ (mailto:_@...) _

> (mailto:_@..._ (mailto: ) )

> > [mailto:__groups (DOT) _NI_ (mailto:_@...) _

> (mailto:_@..._ (mailto: ) ) ] On

> > > Behalf Of

> > > Neno/Natasa

> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 6:32 AM

> > > __groups (DOT) _NI_ (mailto:_@...) _

> (mailto:_@..._ (mailto: ) )

> > > Subject: HBOT has antiviral effect

> > >

> > > J Assoc Nurses AIDS Care. 1996 Jan-Feb;7(1) J

> Ass

> > >

> > > HIV antiviral effects of hyperbaric oxygen

> > therapy.

> > > Reillo MR, Altieri RJ. Lifeforce Hyperbaric

> > Medical Clinic,

> > > Baltimore, MD, USA.

> > >

> > > Researchers have speculated that hyperbaric

> oxygen

> > (HBO)

> > > therapy has an

> > > antiviral effect in HIV infection. To determine

> > HBO's

> > > antiviral effect, the

> > > authors performed ex vivo and in vivo

> quantitative

> > assays

> > > on HIV-infected

> > > plasma and peripheral blood mononuclear cells

> > (PBMCs) at

> > > baseline and after

> > > treatment. The authors also HBO-treated

> uninfected

> > PBMCs

> > > and then exposed

> > > them to HIV at ambient pressure. HIV viral load

> > was

> > > decreased in the

> > > infected cells, and few viruses entered

> uninfected

> > PBMCs

> > > exposed to HBO. The

> > > results of this study support the theory that

> HBO

> > has an

> > > antiviral effect.

> > > PMID: 8825180

> > >

> > > A hypothesis out there on high pressure bursting

> > viral

> > > envelope and

> > > disintegrating the virus.... (could be why it

> > works in

> > > autism,

> > > herpesviruses, retroviruses etc are all

> enveloped

> > ones...).

> > > Remember stuff I

> > > posted yesterday about chelation of metals

> > > bursting/desintegra burstin

> > > virus?? Getting very interesting, all this...

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

>

> May the Lord bless you and keep you!

>

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>

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>

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April 5, 2009

Sometimes HBOT can cause hyperfusion, thats Dr. G's

concern. And I have read that it can cause viral

reactivation. I don't think Dr. G will see a patient

if they do HBOT simultaneously...

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April 5, 2009

I am not sure what you don't get, but I will try to

answer what I think you don't understand. If you do a

NeuroSPECT on some kids with dx'd with autism, you

will see some overactive areas in the brain. They can

cause aggression and other issues. HBOT would

exacerbate this. Dr. G has mentioned that he has had

many kids that are so difficult to treat because they

have had HBOT and/or chelation.

HTH,

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