Re: . Re: coiling for candida big herx

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Hi jan,i'm doing essiac tea, glucommanan (sp), enemas/colonics and milk thistle are my main ones.  i sometimes add in pinella and burbur.  i sweat like crazy every 30 minutes, 24/7 without a sauna or exercise. i eat right.  

i don't detox well at all.  i have the paralysis of the gut, hence the enemas/colonics.  i also do high mag, senna, and vit c to help keep it moving. i can't take any binders except the gluc as they are too constipating--i've tried many and just get in trouble. 

i usually go slow enough so my herxes usually last just a few days, 7 tops. although in '05 the dr didn't know i had lyme and was treating for candida, ebv, myco and chl. pn with doxy and flagyl.  it took 6 months (really) just to return to the level of 'sick' i was before.  didn't know about herxes then, and obviously neither did the dr. they discontinues treatment because of the high bp and how sick i was. actually, it was good the stopped it because of the herx.

 these last two should have been like the shorter ones as it was a repeat coil and not too aggressive. but, i do think i hit something else as they felt different.  so will repeat it but shorter time.  also, i had planned on starting on lyme this wk, but am giving it a few more days.  

so, it could be a 'choose your own adventure', or 'whats behind door #1,2,3'.  it certainly gets more interesting when you start treating other things.  i have been stuck on bart/babs so long, so i guess it is time to move onto 'door # 2'.  

barbara 

 

Hi Barbara, what are you doing for detox.?  a herx should never last for two weeks as all those toxins can do a lot of damage.(some doctors say the toxins from die off are worse than the disease itself in how it harms the body).

So I would step up your detox in order to cut herxing down to a lot less time and severity.If you did indeed hit EBV thats good , .Its peeling back another layer and you will be able to get at the babs/bart easier

now.Even just hitting candida will reveal more symptoms of other things.jan

.. Re: coiling for candida big herx

    Posted by: " Barbara Pierce "  gmaoceans@... gmaoceans

    Date: Sun Apr 1, 2012 6:20 pm ((PDT))Hi khaya,

i've heard about the onion peeling also.  could be, but what.  may neverknow.  but since i'm herxing i guess i should just keep at it?

i try to be cautious on the treatments, and have actually only been doingmild, steady herxing.  these last two were surprises with something that

shouldn't have been, that's why i posted.  wish i could do this withbart/babs but i keep plateauing which makes us wonder if i may have another

strain--but with both of them?  because i'm not treating them, i can feelsome of the bart symptoms returning.

if i were functional to having some good days, i probably wouldn't be soimpatient.  i remember the good old days of just experiencing fibro

symptoms.  i hate feeling sick also, but it seems these last few yrs oftreating i go from sick days to sicker days with the herxes.  this truly

does feel like those 'choose your own adventure' books.  my kids reallyliked them, now i get to experience them.  it is 'if i treat this, i will

get this adventure, if i treat this, i get this other adventure'.well, at least we get to make the choice.  better than not knowing what we

were fighting before we discovered it was lyme. so, that's a positivethought.  actually, not knowing was the worst of all, so i am grateful just

to know what the enemy is. and to know i'm not crazy!!  well, maybe alittle nuts, but i blame it on lyme anyway.

thanks for your input.barbara 

  " Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything really special,except to dare to think,

and to dare to go with the truth ,and to dare to love completely. " -R. Buckminster Fuller

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Hi Barbara,

my sweating went away with MMS worked like a dream for me particularly the mms on the skin ,

Kindly mare

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Monday, April 2, 2012 8:47 PMSubject: Re: . Re: coiling for candida big herx

Hi jan,

i'm doing essiac tea, glucommanan (sp), enemas/colonics and milk thistle are my main ones. i sometimes add in pinella and burbur. i sweat like crazy every 30 minutes, 24/7 without a sauna or exercise. i eat right.

i don't detox well at all. i have the paralysis of the gut, hence the enemas/colonics. i also do high mag, senna, and vit c to help keep it moving. i can't take any binders except the gluc as they are too constipating--i've tried many and just get in trouble.

i usually go slow enough so my herxes usually last just a few days, 7 tops. although in '05 the dr didn't know i had lyme and was treating for candida, ebv, myco and chl. pn with doxy and flagyl. it took 6 months (really) just to return to the level of 'sick' i was before. didn't know about herxes then, and obviously neither did the dr. they discontinues treatment because of the high bp and how sick i was. actually, it was good the stopped it because of the herx.

these last two should have been like the shorter ones as it was a repeat coil and not too aggressive. but, i do think i hit something else as they felt different. so will repeat it but shorter time. also, i had planned on starting on lyme this wk, but am giving it a few more days.

so, it could be a 'choose your own adventure', or 'whats behind door #1,2,3'. it certainly gets more interesting when you start treating other things. i have been stuck on bart/babs so long, so i guess it is time to move onto 'door # 2'.

barbara

Hi Barbara,

what are you doing for detox.? a herx should never last for two weeks as all those toxins can do a lot of damage.(some doctors say the toxins from die off are worse than the disease itself in how it harms the body).

So I would step up your detox in order to cut herxing down to a lot less time and severity.

If you did indeed hit EBV thats good , .Its peeling back another layer and you will be able to get at the babs/bart easier now.Even just hitting candida will reveal more symptoms of other things.

jan

.. Re: coiling for candida big herx Posted by: "Barbara Pierce" gmaoceans@... gmaoceans Date: Sun Apr 1, 2012 6:20 pm ((PDT))Hi khaya,i've heard about the onion peeling also. could be, but what. may neverknow. but since i'm herxing

i guess i should just keep at it?i try to be cautious on the treatments, and have actually only been doingmild, steady herxing. these last two were surprises with something thatshouldn't have been, that's why i posted. wish i could do this withbart/babs but i keep plateauing which makes us wonder if i may have anotherstrain--but with both of them? because i'm not treating them, i can feelsome of the bart symptoms returning.if i were functional to having some good days, i probably wouldn't be soimpatient. i remember the good old days of just experiencing fibrosymptoms. i hate feeling sick also, but it seems these last few yrs oftreating i go from sick days to sicker days with the herxes. this trulydoes feel like those 'choose your own adventure' books. my kids reallyliked them, now i get to experience them. it is 'if i treat this, i willget this adventure, if i treat this, i get this other adventure'.well, at least we get to make the choice. better than not knowing what wewere fighting before we discovered it was lyme. so, that's a positivethought. actually, not knowing was the worst of all, so i am grateful justto know what the enemy is. and to know i'm not crazy!! well, maybe alittle nuts, but i blame it on lyme anyway.thanks for

your input.barbara

"Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with the truth ,and to dare to love completely." -R. Buckminster Fuller