Re: coiling for candida big herx

[Guest guest]

You're welcome Barbara,

I totally agree--we each make our own choices, every day, about how to deal with

our treatment. Many people prefer to have the most intense herx that they can

tolerate, and perhaps that brings faster healing for them. Doctors can make

recommendations, but no one can force us against our will to follow a certain

course of treatment. And it's difficult, because with each treatment we can

never be sure of the consequences, or what they mean. But the longer we do it,

the more we can sometimes see a pattern that seems to make some sense.

Yes, before I was diagnosed I knew everyone thought I was meshuga--but everyone

has their own michigas (not sure of the english spelling, but craziness),

especially with all the frustration. As long as we haven't totally driven away

those who are important to us, we can survive! And even occasionally have a

little bit of bliss.

Khaya

> > >

> > > Hi anyone,

> > >

> > > i have coiled off and on for a couple years for candida at 465 and only

> > had

> > > minor, short herxes, mostly nausea and sweating, after which my nausea

> > and

> > > other stomach discomfort was reduced. last month i increased the coiling

> > > session for 1 min. over most of my body (because herxes were never great

> > > before) and was really sick for 2 wks. last night i coiled for about 5

> > > min. over my *stomach and abdomen area.* this morning i was dizzy, light

> > > headed, nauseous, increased sweating and *extremely weak*, especially in

> > my

> >

> > > upper body, chest pain and pressure, heart pounding, pressure headache,

> > > more in the front and top.

> > >

> > > these 2 herxes seemed out of the ordinary compared to what i've

> > experience

> > > before. they were different. so i looked on the cafl list and found 465

> > > hits candida, yeast, some parasites, fungus, and ebv. in '05 i tested

> > > significantly for ebv. dr said something about, chronic, current, acute,

> > > past,-- 3 of these 4 i think, can't remember.

> > >

> > > so did i suddenly herx for ebv and not just candida? why now and not

> > > before?

> > >

> > > or- did i just hit a big load of candida? anyone else herx like this for

> > > candida?

> > >

> > > or- did i hit a parasite? why now? because my symptoms have been

> > > consistent for over 10 yrs. nothing new.

> > >

> > > anyone have any suggestions?

> > >

> > > thanks

> > >

> > > barbara

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Marie, I just took my third dose of Lufenuron last night - feeling pretty

crummy today with what I assume is die-off. How long before you started feeling

better and how long before you repeated it?

Thanks,

>

> THank you barbara I do have the coil .

> I do not coil for fungus as I do not knwo wher eis my Cd with the frequencies

I need to look . Bu tlufenuron did a very good job except it came back I am at

my 3round of lufenuron .

> I am going to adress also the skin fungus anils and hair as the MMS is

temporaray relive and I di dnto yet use the thief oil extensively for this I

keep it for the appartement contuing to sanitise it systematically.

> So far the lufenuron was th emost efefctive not counting the htief oil I did

nto try for good for the body.

>  

> Spring awake  all creaturs living all th ebugs as ourselves

> kindly marie

[Guest guest]

Buhner came up with another herb for babesia/bartonella called Sida Acuta..have you tried herbs to improve your immune system and stabilize it, like rhodiola, eleuthero, ashwaganda,suma .holy basil ,Maca, DIM?jan Re: coiling for candida big herx Posted by: "Barbara Pierce" gmaoceans@... gmaoceans Date: Tue Apr 3, 2012 11:26 am ((PDT))thanks marie,i have been consuming mms for quite a while now, which i think has helpedmy ability to eat. i have used it on the skin also. however, when i useda few

drops daily for about 3 days my symptoms of pain, sweating, nauseaand feeling sick increased. i assume a herx of killing a lot of bugs. so,now i can only apply 1 drop every few days to keep the herx at a minimum.my sweating is not just a herx type symptom. it is part of an 'attack' iget every 30 min, on schedule, 24/7 for the last 10+ yrs. anxiety, airhunger, nausea, heart racing/pounding and profuse sweating, with chills inbetween the attacks. during these attacks i sometimes feel i won't make itthrough them and have a panicky urgency to lay down. most times it is alsoaccompanied with the urgency to drink water--i think to help to cool myinsides down. these symptoms all seem to be the result of killing thesebugs, as they increase with treatment, yet never quit even after the herx,just return to the old normal. eating anything will also trigger the attacksymptoms. over 25 drs of various specialties don't know what it is aswell as no one here has heard of. "Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with the truth ,and to dare to love completely." -R. Buckminster Fuller

[Guest guest]

Hi Barbara,

In my experience, Candida can create a nasty herx as bad as any of my Lyme

herxing has ever been. It could be that you needed to run the coil longer to

kill the fungus. Each organism is different in length of time it may take to

kill it. You also may have caused an Epstein Barr herx. The way to find out,

you might look on the CAFL and find another frequency that addresses Candida and

try that and ramp up to five minutes. If you get the same type of herx then you

know it was from Candida or, you could find another frequency for Epstein Barr

and run that and see if the herx is similar. You might have to experiment until

you figure out which organism you killed.

>

> Hi anyone,

>

> i have coiled off and on for a couple years for candida at 465 and only had

> minor, short herxes, mostly nausea and sweating, after which my nausea and

> other stomach discomfort was reduced. last month i increased the coiling

> session for 1 min. over most of my body (because herxes were never great

> before) and was really sick for 2 wks. last night i coiled for about 5

> min. over my *stomach and abdomen area.* this morning i was dizzy, light

> headed, nauseous, increased sweating and *extremely weak*, especially in my

> upper body, chest pain and pressure, heart pounding, pressure headache,

> more in the front and top.

>

> these 2 herxes seemed out of the ordinary compared to what i've experience

> before. they were different. so i looked on the cafl list and found 465

> hits candida, yeast, some parasites, fungus, and ebv. in '05 i tested

> significantly for ebv. dr said something about, chronic, current, acute,

> past,-- 3 of these 4 i think, can't remember.

>

> so did i suddenly herx for ebv and not just candida? why now and not

> before?

>

> or- did i just hit a big load of candida? anyone else herx like this for

> candida?

>

> or- did i hit a parasite? why now? because my symptoms have been

> consistent for over 10 yrs. nothing new.

>

> anyone have any suggestions?

>

> thanks

>

> barbara

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Barbara,

I had the same problem as you, always forgetting to take my MMS on time...

I now use a digital timer, set it for 1 hour, when it beeps, I take my MMS and

reset the

timer for the next hour!!

http://www.amazon.com/Presto-04213-Electronic-Digital-Timer/dp/B001CQG618/ref=pd\

_sim_k_2

MMS made in higher doses will last all day long, but not the next day...

Take care,

Jim

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> > **

> >

> >

> > HI ,do you know about the new way to take MMS . i thelped me increase from

> > 1 or two drops a day to 6,

> > I was stucked and in two weeks I was at six

> > it is ti activate let say one drop to began with then to add on litter of

> > water to it with 1/8of a tea spoon of bicarbonate ofd sodium. then you

> > drink a little bit every hour over a 10 to 12 h period . Th ebody tolerate

> > it much better and detox better too

> > at least for me ,

> > KIndly Marie

> >

> >

> > *From:* jan s

> > *To:* " Lyme_and_Rife " <Lyme_and_Rife >

> > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 4, 2012 10:24 AM

> > *Subject:* Re: coiling for candida big herx

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Buhner came up with another herb for babesia/bartonella called Sida Acuta.

> > .have you tried herbs to improve your immune system and stabilize it, like

> > rhodiola, eleuthero, ashwaganda,suma .holy basil ,Maca, DIM?

> > jan

> >

> >

> > Re: coiling for candida big herx

> > Posted by: " Barbara Pierce " gmaoceans@... gmaoceans

> > Date: Tue Apr 3, 2012 11:26 am ((PDT))

> >

> > thanks marie,

> >

> > i have been consuming mms for quite a while now, which i think has helped

> > my ability to eat. i have used it on the skin also. however, when i used

> > a few drops daily for about 3 days my symptoms of pain, sweating, nausea

> > and feeling sick increased. i assume a herx of killing a lot of bugs. so,

> > now i can only apply 1 drop every few days to keep the herx at a minimum.

> >

> > my sweating is not just a herx type symptom. it is part of an 'attack' i

> > get every 30 min, on schedule, 24/7 for the last 10+ yrs. anxiety, air

> > hunger, nausea, heart racing/pounding and profuse sweating, with chills in

> > between the attacks. during these attacks i sometimes feel i won't make it

> > through them and have a panicky urgency to lay down. most times it is also

> > accompanied with the urgency to drink water--i think to help to cool my

> > insides down. these symptoms all seem to be the result of killing these

> > bugs, as they increase with treatment, yet never quit even after the herx,

> > just return to the old normal. eating anything will also trigger the attack

> > symptoms. over 25 drs of various specialties don't know what it is as

> > well as no one here has heard of.

> >

> > " Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything

> > really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with the truth

> > ,and to dare to love completely. " -R. Buckminster Fuller

> >

> >

> >

> >

>